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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MattT on September 04, 2007, 02:17:14 PM
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Mentzer destroys Zane there
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Shit BB come along way,Wonder if Menzter pissed of the Weiders before 1980, he looked thicker and wider than Zane.
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Zane is a nutsakc with a haircut.
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Your Olympia footage?
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It shows you how good the genetics were in the 1990's. Any of the guys from the 90's would make those guys look like novices. Someone like Shawn Ray in that line-up wouldn't even get a call out he would be so far ahead.
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Your Olympia footage?
A little misspelling there, huh MattT ... or was that just something you wrote subconsciously ? Or intentionally ? ;)
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If you look at the end, Mentzer shakes Zane's hand before the decision and raises it when he's announced the winner.
Whatever some may say about Mike Mentzer, he certainly had class as a bodybuilder. You never saw Flex or most other competitors do that these days
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Shit BB come along way,Wonder if Menzter pissed of the Weiders before 1980, he looked thicker and wider than Zane.
Not really.
If being at the right time at the right place applies to a person, that has got to be Mr. overrated Mentzer-
A Runner up at 1979 Mr. Olympia !!
How? I mean how?
where were top bbers of that time ?
1- Sergio Oliva (issues with IFBB)
2-Franco Columbu-broken leg (knee)
3- Serge Nubret (issues with IFBB)
4-Lou Ferrgino retired (in his mid 20's)doing the Hulk tv series.
5-Arnold Schwarzenegger retired chasing hollywood.
He wasn't a top six material .
RIP
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Not really.
If being at the right time at the right place applies to a person, that has got to be Mr. overrated Mentzer-
A Runner up at 1979 Mr. Olympia !!
How? I mean how?
where were top bbers of that time ?
1- Sergio Oliva (issues with IFBB)
2-Franco Columbu-broken leg (knee)
3- Serge Nubret (issues with IFBB)
4-Lou Ferrgino retired (in his mid 20's)doing the Hulk tv series.
5-Arnold Schwarzenegger retired chasing hollywood.
He wasn't a top six material .
RIP
From the clip, I don't have a problem with Zane beating Mentzer (and I'm a fan of Mentzer's physique generally).
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zane is what bodybuilding should be...not the fucking mastodons of today.
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where'd you score that footage..i thought my bob kennedy's Beef It! book was old...
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It shows you how good the genetics were in the 1990's. Any of the guys from the 90's would make those guys look like novices. Someone like Shawn Ray in that line-up wouldn't even get a call out he would be so far ahead.
Genetics in the 90's were pretty much the same as they were in the 70's (same humans) training, eating and sleeping..now , the supplements were a bit (VERY)different.
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Genetics in the 90's were pretty much the same as they were in the 70's (same humans) training, eating and sleeping..now , the supplements were a bit (VERY)different.
So then who do you see in that line-up with the structure of Levrone, Ray, Dillet, Wheeler, Yates etc. 'Supplements' don't increase your shoulder width and narrow your waist and give you all the bodyparts neccessary to win on a BBing stage....
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Zane was definitely not a bber.
Any natural has more volume that that shrimp...
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Zane had 2 things going for him. First he was a good poser. Second he was the first to bring real cuts or definition to the game.
Mike Mentzer was a great bodybuilder no doubt, yet in the video it's clear why he lost. He was way too smooth, he had size but no cuts, no "viens".
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one could argue that zane's shape and maybe condition (although his conditioning was not better than mentzer) won him the contest, but he didn't have close to the size and density of mentzer.
so here is where the problem lies. do you award aesthetic over muscularity?
people complain about the mass monsters but if it was just about shape and aesthetics ie zane, how can you have progression or any real competition. the guy with the best genetics (small joints, waist, etc) would win the contest every year and it would be nothing more than a male beauty pageant.
who would give a shit about that besides homosexuals?
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So then who do you see in that line-up with the structure of Levrone, Ray, Dillet, Wheeler, Yates etc. 'Supplements' don't increase your shoulder width and narrow your waist and give you all the bodyparts neccessary to win on a BBing stage....
That's hard to figure....have you seen Lerone's structure off the sauce??
now picture him with an afro and 175 pounds with the "supplements limitations, competing in the 70's could have taken Zane and Mentzer....maybe I think so.
Mr. Shawn Ray,great upper body, but I don't see him with more than 13 inches calves (in the 70's...)
If Dillet looks like shit at his prime from the back (mid 90's) just imagine how would he look in the 70's..LOL
Wheler without his synthol-drug-extravaganza = would have been nothing but an afro-mustache-narrow lats, high calves,long abs to short chest-ratio....a joke!!!
Remember The 70's were all about sculpting,lines,proportion and muscle separation
Yates would have make a great truck driver power lifter (Ken Patera wanna be) .
Just use your imagination.
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Zane was definitely not a bber.
Any natural has more volume that that shrimp...
Him beating Arnold and winning three Olympias says otherwise.......thanks for coming.....tip you're waitress on the way out.