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Title: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 04, 2007, 10:20:56 PM
Hahahaha... you train for years to "puff out" your Hobbit little "egos" without real results, bash on every guys with better genetics than yours... claims to be "the real thing" but the Truth is you don't have any goals other than "chest/biceps" before going "out" on Fridays wearing your undersized "UnderArmor" ""shirt"", pass on pie at IHOP 'cause "ya know, dietin' "...

I'll tell you who the real warriors are; the guys like Erik Fankhouser, AD Cherry who wake up at 4AM to train before the kids wake up, do what it takes to achieve their goals. Have a day job but never lose perspective on the pig picture. Of course they're hormonized  (quick, "boys who cry wolf") but every single effort is put toward their ultimate achievement. For which they can show up for at the end.

What I've you been pushing for lately?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: MisterMagoo on September 04, 2007, 11:28:38 PM
general rule is: if they're bigger than me, they're on steroids. simple stuff, and it keeps your ego nice and huge.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 04, 2007, 11:30:20 PM
general rule is: if they're bigger than me, they're on steroids. simple stuff, and it keeps your ego nice and huge.

Hahahah exactly and make slow motion "training videoz" on youtube with Creed music playing in the background for "inspiration".... I love these little faggits...will be doing the same fucking routine in 20 years and still look like shit...
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Al-Gebra on September 04, 2007, 11:31:23 PM


I'll tell you who the real warriors are; the guys like Erik Fankhouser, AD Cherry who wake up at 4AM to train before the kids wake up, do what it takes to achieve their goals. Have a day job but never lose perspective on the pig picture.

how do you know this?









Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 04, 2007, 11:31:58 PM
how do you know this?

'Cause I've seen it.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: MisterMagoo on September 04, 2007, 11:34:32 PM
Hahahah exactly and make slow motion "training videoz" on youtube with Creed music playing in the background for "inspiration".... I love these little faggits...will be doing the same fucking routine in 20 years and still look like shit...

seriously, who the hell makes a youtube "dvd preview" or whatever the hell that was?

crying "steroids" at everyone who dwarfs you is a surefire way to keep yourself from pushing hard enough to progress.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 04, 2007, 11:36:29 PM
seriously, who the hell makes a youtube "dvd preview" or whatever the hell that was?

crying "steroids" at everyone who dwarfs you is a surefire way to keep yourself from pushing hard enough to progress.

Is their little negative mindset just a consequence of their low self esteem. or vice versa? which one really came first?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Al-Gebra on September 04, 2007, 11:38:35 PM
'Cause I've seen it.

who? fankhouser or cherry?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: MisterMagoo on September 04, 2007, 11:39:19 PM
Is their little negative mindset just a consequence of their low self esteem. or vice versa? which one really came first?

chicken and the egg, man. most hilarious part is that they're probably like ted haggard: screaming nonstop about how awful steroids are because they use them. they're just bitter they can't get any fucking results hahaha
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 04, 2007, 11:40:29 PM
Cherry.

fankhouser has the same daily routine.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: flexingtonsteele on September 04, 2007, 11:58:19 PM
Well I know Cherry does it for sure.......he has a young son, works 8 hours a day, trains and does cardio EVERY damn day, ive seen it myself, we trained at the same gym for years..............

So I can back a23 100%
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: natural al on September 05, 2007, 05:07:29 AM
Well I'm about 5'8 and natural so I know this doesn't apply to me......

no really, I could care less who's on roids and who isn't, doesn't make a damn bit of difference in anyway shape or form, I bust my balls when I train and the fact that jonny roid head is on hormones isnt' gonna help me in the gym....it's wasted energy and while I think a guy like Croatch has a good physique I dont' get all his bitching.  I dont' know him in anyway, shape or form he seems like a good guy just wastes too much energy on who's doing what to get huge.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: jaejonna on September 05, 2007, 05:08:52 AM
I love how your results and gains arent real unless you have a 47 inch waist to go with your roided disproportionate body ...
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Playboy on September 05, 2007, 05:27:09 AM
Hahahaha... you train for years to "puff out" your Hobbit little "egos" without real results, bash on every guys with better genetics than yours... claims to be "the real thing" but the Truth is you don't have any goals other than "chest/biceps" before going "out" on Fridays wearing your undersized "UnderArmor" ""shirt"", pass on pie at IHOP 'cause "ya know, dietin' "...

I'll tell you who the real warriors are; the guys like Erik Fankhouser, AD Cherry who wake up at 4AM to train before the kids wake up, do what it takes to achieve their goals. Have a day job but never lose perspective on the pig picture. Of course they're hormonized  (quick, "boys who cry wolf") but every single effort is put toward their ultimate achievement. For which they can show up for at the end.

What I've you been pushing for lately?
Good post and very true.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 05, 2007, 05:31:24 AM
Hahahah exactly and make slow motion "training videoz" on youtube with Creed music playing in the background for "inspiration".... I love these little faggits...will be doing the same fucking routine in 20 years and still look like shit...
haha post of the year!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on September 05, 2007, 05:31:32 AM
Well I'm about 5'8 and natural so I know this doesn't apply to me......

no really, I could care less who's on roids and who isn't, doesn't make a damn bit of difference in anyway shape or form, I bust my balls when I train and the fact that jonny roid head is on hormones isnt' gonna help me in the gym....it's wasted energy and while I think a guy like Croatch has a good physique I dont' get all his bitching.  I dont' know him in anyway, shape or form he seems like a good guy just wastes too much energy on who's doing what to get huge.

Took the words right out of my mouth ... well, most of them ... I'm a bit taller than you.  ;D

I, too, could care less because the option of whether to use or not to use is ALWAYS there ... so why bitch if you always have a choice ? Like Natural Al said, " I bust my balls when I train and the fact that " Johnny Roid Head " is on Hormones isn't going help me in the Gym ... it's wasted Energy ... ". I feel the exact same way.  
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Hedgehog on September 05, 2007, 06:06:03 AM
Hahahaha... you train for years to "puff out" your Hobbit little "egos" without real results, bash on every guys with better genetics than yours... claims to be "the real thing" but the Truth is you don't have any goals other than "chest/biceps" before going "out" on Fridays wearing your undersized "UnderArmor" ""shirt"", pass on pie at IHOP 'cause "ya know, dietin' "...

I'll tell you who the real warriors are; the guys like Erik Fankhouser, AD Cherry who wake up at 4AM to train before the kids wake up, do what it takes to achieve their goals. Have a day job but never lose perspective on the pig picture. Of course they're hormonized  (quick, "boys who cry wolf") but every single effort is put toward their ultimate achievement. For which they can show up for at the end.

What I've you been pushing for lately?

Did Croatch bitch about a steroid user?


What a surprise. ::)
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Hedgehog on September 05, 2007, 06:08:44 AM
Hahahah exactly and make slow motion "training videoz" on youtube with Creed music playing in the background for "inspiration".... I love these little faggits...will be doing the same fucking routine in 20 years and still look like shit...

Drinking the water from the epic gallon jug. Hardcore! ::)
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: natural al on September 05, 2007, 06:10:52 AM
Took the words right out of my mouth ... well, most of them ... I'm a bit taller than you.  ;D

I, too, could care less because the option of whether to use or not to use is ALWAYS there ... so why bitch if you always have a choice ? Like Natural Al said, " I bust my balls when I train and the fact that " Johnny Roid Head " is on Hormones isn't going help me in the Gym ... it's wasted Energy ... ". I feel the exact same way.  

the only time I've ever really gotten "upset" by a guy using roids is when a dude like Flex Wheeler claims to be a "natural freak"...dude, he's probably not been natural for his entire adult life, even when he competed "clean" at the O a few years ago it came out that he was on stuff.  I dont' really care that much it's just a knock off of guys who are really natty.  If you're on roids just admit it, why lie about it?  

That's the only thing that's ever gotten under my skin, I could care less if Trey Brewer or that 16 year old kid from Russia is on every drug known to man, I'm not and that's just the way it is.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 05, 2007, 06:21:18 AM
Hahahah exactly and make slow motion "training videoz" on youtube with Creed music playing in the background for "inspiration".... I love these little faggits...will be doing the same fucking routine in 20 years and still look like shit...

yeah and they'll still be alive to do it.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: nycbull on September 05, 2007, 06:25:04 AM
This is an issue for the times we live in. Is it ok for some people to use drugs or surgery to get an advantage?

Is a girl with natural breasts angry cause the girl next door got fake ones and know she is getting more attention from men? Is the guy who got 400 on his SAT's mad cause the guy next to him who took Aderal got 500? Is a med student mad cause he didnt get a high score on his exam because he didnt have enough time to study but the guy who was on meth studying all night scored well?. Is it fair that a sales guy is beating other sales guys because they are riding high on coke or meth or even roids?

What is fair these days?

We are living in an age where being natural is not getting the applause it used to. Will it continue, will there be a backlash? who knows.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Paul Allen on September 05, 2007, 06:38:27 AM
it's human nature to want the most with the least effort.

you can't even get "most" naturally, most would argue.

as that Adonis fella said, there is no one under 5'10" 200 lbs contest shape in the history of man who is 100 percent natural.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: The Squadfather on September 05, 2007, 06:42:48 AM
yeah and they'll still be alive to do it.
hahahaha, another clown who thinks that 500mg. of test a week is going to kill you in 2 years. ::)
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Hedgehog on September 05, 2007, 06:45:49 AM


 ::)
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: BuffGoddess on September 05, 2007, 09:27:17 AM
Those are the same guys who slam the ladies who have btter physiques than they do...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on September 05, 2007, 10:19:47 AM


 Is the guy who got 400 on his SAT's mad cause the guy next to him who took Aderal got 500?


I agree with your post.  HOWEVER...
If a guy got 400 on his SAT, he's probably not smart enough to get angry that someone beat him by 100 points! ;D
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: candidate2025 on September 05, 2007, 10:27:05 AM
that is not creeed.

that is xplosions in the sky. a fucking amazing band.

croatch seems to be a pretty cool guy. he is just on the extreme end of the "anti-steroids" debate.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: rockyfortune on September 05, 2007, 10:51:43 AM
Those are the same guys who slam the ladies who have btter physiques than they do...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

what? like this???
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: natural al on September 05, 2007, 11:14:20 AM
what? like this???

I don't even know what to say about that.....
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: rockyfortune on September 05, 2007, 11:18:02 AM
I don't even know what to say about that.....


sorry about posting that pic..but she talks shit too much.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: natural al on September 05, 2007, 11:24:27 AM

sorry about posting that pic..but she talks shit too much.

it's just strange all the way around......I dont' get it.....
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: affy on September 05, 2007, 11:25:51 AM
Those are the same guys who slam the ladies who have btter physiques than they do...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
STFU you look like a giant manturd
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: ironneck on September 05, 2007, 11:30:41 AM
what? like this???


it's disgusting to see men wear bras these days
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: gordiano on September 05, 2007, 01:15:00 PM

it's disgusting to see men wear bras these days


HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: evandatp on September 06, 2007, 12:19:21 AM
Those are the same guys who slam the ladies who have btter physiques than they do...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
You are nothing without the great Debussey.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Croatch on September 06, 2007, 03:52:27 AM
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Hahahah exactly and make slow motion "training videoz" on youtube with Creed music playing in the background for "inspiration".... I love these little faggits...will be doing the same fucking routine in 20 years and still look like shit...
When you create anything other than a mediocre physique, put it up on youtube, I'd like to watch. ;)  The Adonis toilet video is your best "work" to date.  ::)
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I'll tell you who the real warriors are; the guys like Erik Fankhouser, AD Cherry who wake up at 4AM to train before the kids wake up, do what it takes to achieve their goals. Have a day job but never lose perspective on the pig picture. Of course they're hormonized  (quick, "boys who cry wolf") but every single effort is put toward their ultimate achievement. For which they can show up for at the end.
Yeah, I want to have a family one day, take steroids to win $3 trophies, and consider myself "honorable" because I work out.  Right.
If someone competes naturally, I still barely understand it, but can respect it to some degree.  The whole drug competition thing, is just that, a competition of cycles/genetics.  Usually, a cop out for ingesting inhumane amounts of gear, justifying it through a "competition"...it's whack.
Also, never place more respect on a time someone works out, it's ridiculous.  That same person goes to bed at 8pm, so what..hahah  That's my favorite, "He's in there at 5am!"  Yeah, but he went to be @10pm..hahah

Read some youtube comments and you'll see not everyone has the "getbig" mentality about gear.  In general, most of society views gear the same as I do, it's a shortcut, nothing more.  Maybe if gyms weren't saturated with sorry shortcutters, who I tend to dust 90% of the time, I wouldn't be so against it.  If only guys in the Olympia sauced, or guys who actually looked pretty awesome were on, maybe I'd view it differently.  Unfortunately, this is not what you have in many "hardcore" gyms.  It's usually some clown who relies on drug use for hisachievements in bodybuilding.  It's just plain sad and not what lifting should be about.  Once things are widespread, it becomes more accepted amongst others in the gym.  I know, "the warrior" who is "taking it to the next level".  Translation: The guy who simply can't do jack without drugs.
It doesn't encompass everyone, but let's face it, roids are for weak people in general.  How many guys really accomplish a lot, before going the gear route?  I'd bet very few.  And even if on, it's the drugs that give you the gains, not your "hardcore work ethic".  Same amount of work, twice the results...it's a shortcut, nothing more.
Just the truth, sorry I'm the one to put it out there every time.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2007, 06:03:37 AM
  That same person goes to bed at 8pm, so what..hahah  That's my favorite, "He's in there at 5am!"  Yeah, but he went to be @10pm..hahah

haha yeah monster gayness. ive even heard of people waking up at 3 am thinking they could "one up" the great waddydaddy
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Croatch on September 06, 2007, 06:57:48 AM
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  That same person goes to bed at 8pm, so what..hahah  That's my favorite, "He's in there at 5am!"  Yeah, but he went to be @10pm..hahah

haha yeah monster gayness. ive even heard of people waking up at 3 am thinking they could "one up" the great waddydaddy
For sure, what about the guy who works nights and hits the gym at 4pm, is he less dedicated? hahah
People watch too many Rocky movies and think that waking up at 4am, drinking your eggs, and wearing a stank sweatsuit=dedication.
hahah
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 06, 2007, 07:05:27 AM
general rule is: if they're bigger than me, they're on steroids. simple stuff, and it keeps your ego nice and huge.

I don't like the mass monsters.. But I do acknowledge people with better genes. Hell, take Alex23 himself. He is a natural monster, so mad respect to him for having size most on this forum can only dream of (and some even with drugs, sevencocktese is a great example).

Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Croatch on September 06, 2007, 07:19:15 AM
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I don't like the mass monsters.. But I do acknowledge people with better genes. Hell, take Alex23 himself. He is a natural monster, so mad respect to him for having size most on this forum can only dream of (and some even with drugs, sevencocktese is a great example).
Of course, to think you have the best genetics would only be foolish.  I give credit where it's due as well.  Someone doesn't need to be bigger either, to get credit.  If someone lives a certain lifestyle and doesn't rely on drugs, I give them credit.
However, very few can look pretty good at a decent bodyweight without gear.  I wish more would have faith in themselves and really see how far they could take their genes, then if they want, take some gear...but almost nobody does that cause it takes years to reach your genetic potential, not months. 
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: c-sharp minor on September 06, 2007, 07:36:09 AM
If someone chooses to use gear, good for them. That's their choice, and all the power to them. What other people choose to do to their bodies, in no way, shape, or form affects my life, so I don't concern myself with it, or critisize them for doing thus.

Working out, for me is about health, as much as putting on muscle. I choose not to do gear mainly due to the sides. Were there no ill-effects from doing gear I would probably indulge as well. It's all about personal choice.



Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 06, 2007, 07:50:57 AM
I hate juicers like Croatch And Alex23 who lie about their use.

Come CLEAN boys!
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: The Squadfather on September 06, 2007, 07:55:25 AM
I hate juicers like Croatch And Alex23 who lie about their use.

Come CLEAN boys!
post a clip of your 500 pound bench press and 700 pound deadlift.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: brian36 on September 06, 2007, 08:02:29 AM
Croatch has a bigger gut than Coleman does.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Playboy on September 06, 2007, 08:03:49 AM
If someone chooses to use gear, good for them. That's their choice, and all the power to them. What other people choose to do to their bodies, in no way, shape, or form affects my life, so I don't concern myself with it, or critisize them for doing thus.

Working out, for me is about health, as much as putting on muscle. I choose not to do gear mainly due to the sides. Were there no ill-effects from doing gear I would probably indulge as well. It's all about personal choice.




Exactly.
Plus people seem to confuse a small sensible dose for personal use with the boatloading that is often looked on.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 06, 2007, 08:09:04 AM
post a clip of your 500 pound bench press and 700 pound deadlift.
I will if you first post ANY of your claimed lifts, like the 385 bench. I have a clip of my dead ready to go. You first.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: The Squadfather on September 06, 2007, 08:11:25 AM
I will if you first post ANY of your claimed lifts, like the 385 bench. I have a clip of my dead ready to go. You first.
hahahhaa, ok "van", you're the one claiming unbelievable lifts, let's see them "stud". ;D
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 06, 2007, 08:19:29 AM
hahahhaa, ok "van", you're the one claiming unbelievable lifts, let's see them "stud". ;D
Didn't you also claim 500 x 6 in the squat? That is impressive as well, I can't do that ass-to-grass.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: The Squadfather on September 06, 2007, 08:21:33 AM
Didn't you also claim 500 x 6 in the squat? That is impressive as well, I can't do that ass-to-grass.
you can't squat 500 for 6 yet you claim to deadlift 700, something sounds fishy. :-X
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 06, 2007, 10:16:14 AM
I hate juicers like Croatch And Alex23 who lie about their use.

Come CLEAN boys!
If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck...guess what


ALex23 seems to know a lot about juice for never doing it----

Ironic that someone can be that big, be really into the BBing scene and know a lot about juice and yet is natural ::)

Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: kiwiol on September 06, 2007, 10:35:47 AM
If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck...guess what


ALex23 seems to know a lot about juice for never doing it----

Ironic that someone can be that big, be really into the BBing scene and know a lot about juice and yet is natural ::)


Are you saying the insulin in Alex's fridge is there purely to be used in emergency situations for others only, like for example, when a guest visiting him randomly develops high blood sugar levels and needs said hormone, Nordic?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 06, 2007, 01:41:03 PM
you can't squat 500 for 6 yet you claim to deadlift 700, something sounds fishy. :-X
People have different strengths. If you do 500 for 6 your 1RM would be about 550 or so? IME it's more common for trainers to pull more than they squat ATG (when done raw), but IIRC you have said you pull 525? You seem to have a structure more suited to squatting then.

I can do a couple ATG squats with 500 if I have wraps on. Of course, if I used the so-called "parallel" style I could probably do a bit more. A couple inch difference in depth can mean 100lbs or more in either direction.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: The Squadfather on September 06, 2007, 01:44:08 PM
People have different strengths. If you do 500 for 6 your 1RM would be about 550 or so? IME it's more common for trainers to pull more than they squat ATG (when done raw), but IIRC you have said you pull 525? You seem to have a structure more suited to squatting then.

I can do a couple ATG squats with 500 if I have wraps on. Of course, if I used the so-called "parallel" style I could probably do a bit more. A couple inch difference in depth can mean 100lbs or more in either direction.
yeah my squats are definitely parallel or a little lower but my deadlift could use some work for sure, i don't train it every week like squats and benches, i'm more of a barbell row guy to be honest, how do you train your pull?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 06, 2007, 01:50:38 PM
yeah my squats are definitely parallel or a little lower but my deadlift could use some work for sure, i don't train it every week like squats and benches, i'm more of a barbell row guy to be honest, how do you train your pull?
Right now I'm doing good mornings one day and different deadlift variations on another day. I can't squat at all right now due to quad tendon tendonitis so I have been mostly concentrating on pulls lately.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: MAXX on September 06, 2007, 02:16:57 PM
Hahahaha... you train for years to "puff out" your Hobbit little "egos" without real results, bash on every guys with better genetics than yours... claims to be "the real thing" but the Truth is you don't have any goals other than "chest/biceps" before going "out" on Fridays wearing your undersized "UnderArmor" ""shirt"", pass on pie at IHOP 'cause "ya know, dietin' "...

I'll tell you who the real warriors are; the guys like Erik Fankhouser, AD Cherry who wake up at 4AM to train before the kids wake up, do what it takes to achieve their goals. Have a day job but never lose perspective on the pig picture. Of course they're hormonized  (quick, "boys who cry wolf") but every single effort is put toward their ultimate achievement. For which they can show up for at the end.

What I've you been pushing for lately?
and you use steroids yet look like a random fat truckdriver  ::)

monster selfowning
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Croatch on September 06, 2007, 04:22:48 PM
and you use steroids yet look like a random fat truckdriver  ::)

monster selfowning
I didn't think he used steroid actually.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Master Blaster on September 06, 2007, 04:29:48 PM
I didn't think he used steroid actually.

I got the feeling he was "mostly" natural.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: gordiano on September 06, 2007, 04:34:11 PM
I have zero respect for someone who juices and claims "natural" status.



That said, I don't think Alex23 is "on". He's just built the way he is, due to his genetics. He looks like he could move some serious weight, too. He's definitely got the frame for mass.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Croatch on September 06, 2007, 04:42:00 PM
I have zero respect for someone who juices and claims "natural" status.



That said, I don't think Alex23 is "on". He's just built the way he is, due to his genetics. He looks like he could move some serious weight, too. He's definitely got the frame for mass.
I don't understand the point of claiming to be natural and being on juice, utterly pointless.  That's like banging a bunch of women and voicing a pro gay lifestyle..hahah  Idiotic.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Hedgehog on September 06, 2007, 04:43:17 PM
I don't understand the point of claiming to be natural and being on juice, utterly pointless.  That's like banging a bunch of women and voicing a pro gay lifestyle..hahah  Idiotic.

Do you still bring a gallon jug into the gym?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Croatch on September 06, 2007, 04:47:01 PM
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Do you still bring a gallon jug into the gym?
Sure, if you drink a half gallon per workout, this allows you to bring one thing of water for every 2 workouts.
Hope this helps.
And stop deleting my post, for fuck sake.  That's great, you achieved a sick physique, 20 years ago on gear, awesome. ::)
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Hedgehog on September 06, 2007, 04:54:08 PM
Sure, if you drink a half gallon per workout, this allows you to bring one thing of water for every 2 workouts.
Hope this helps.
And stop deleting my post, for fuck sake.  That's great, you achieved a sick physique, 20 years ago on gear, awesome. ::)

I don't delete your posts mate.

Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Croatch on September 06, 2007, 05:38:08 PM
I don't delete your posts mate.


My fault...haha, oh, self-inflicted meltdown..haha ???
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 06, 2007, 11:24:16 PM
Are you saying the insulin in Alex's fridge is there purely to be used in emergency situations for others only, like for example, when a guest visiting him randomly develops high blood sugar levels and needs said hormone, Nordic?

You mean this one?

Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: natural al on September 07, 2007, 05:00:15 AM
You mean this one?



alex how tall are you and what do you weigh?  just curious......
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Wanocki on September 07, 2007, 07:23:46 AM
I don't understand the point of claiming to be natural and being on juice, utterly pointless. 

juice is illegal and oddly people have more respect for crack heads than juicers, probably because people like to hate on people that look good
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: kiwiol on September 07, 2007, 08:03:01 AM
You mean this one?



So you've had Jay over as a guest :o :D
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 07, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
alex how tall are you and what do you weigh?  just curious......

somewhere between 5'10-11".... 244lb this morning after a major enema induced clean up. Should be back to 248 by the end of the day..
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Paul Allen on September 07, 2007, 10:22:25 AM
somewhere between 5'10-11".... 244lb this morning after a major enema induced clean up. Should be back to 248 by the end of the day..

you seem a little obsessed with your bodyweight if you're checking it twice a day?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 07, 2007, 10:31:59 AM
you seem a little obsessed with your bodyweight if you're checking it twice a day?

Why is that?
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Naked4Jesus on September 07, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
what? like this???

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Fvcking crickets....

dead silence...

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Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Yev33 on September 07, 2007, 12:44:28 PM
He, she, or it, not quite sure at this point, looks like HHH.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you o
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 07, 2007, 01:57:17 PM
Those are the same guys who slam the ladies who have btter physiques than they do...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
shut up ugly
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Alex23 on September 08, 2007, 03:10:45 AM
shut up ugly

Buffgoddess actually owns you and her 3 kids do as well.
Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 08, 2007, 07:16:01 AM
I could care less what this thing does for fun or hobby ( cause we know she aint gettin rich off that figure :-\)----and I dont know if I believe buffgoddess is that thing in the pic

but to address that person in the pic-----I just feel bad for her because you know she wakes up some mornings lookin in the mirror saying to herself "fuck what have I done"----shes gone beyond the pale--past teh point of no return

she got so swept up in the BBing scene and probably got wrapped up in some cult like schmoe click which kept pushing her to further push herself away from what nature and genetics intended for her--TO BE A WOMAN!!!!!-----and dont tell me she is nad I dont want to hear from her "ohh I fuck mad hot dudes blah blah"---yeah well so do AIDS infested little homo bottom boys, that dont make u a woman

this is not a woman and if you showed that picture to anyone and asked if they would like to look like that---WHAT do yo u think their response would be?????????????????????????????

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Title: Re: "Croatch" + other 5'7" naturalz "boys who cry wolf" bitches-> calling you out.
Post by: buffbong on September 08, 2007, 07:16:36 AM
natrual who bitch and complain about who is on this or that and u cant accomplish this without that waste alot of time worrying about other people. personaly i only focus on improving myself, im short yea but i dont feel the need to hate on other people because they are on drugs. its basiclly a diffrent route natrual bodybuilding to me is more about looking the best u can on stage staying healthy and living a balanced life outside of that. aspiring to be a ifbb pro i feel would be diffrent because the extremes of drugs.   i think guys like jay cutler and ronnie coleman look absolutly amazing, just not good if you know what i mean. buts its all preferance. i competed at a show recently and a guy there who does npc was really cool of course he uses drugs but that topic didnt come up in our convo he suggested things to be and compliment how good my shape and size was and that if i improve me conditioning i should be winning instead of placing....