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.....I'm not sure what you've seen or heard or what advice you will take.
I can just tell you from experience that nice guys are not treated too kindly in the dating world.
If that's what you are, a "nice guy", then so be it.
Just be prepared for all that it entails.
Every nice guy I've known has gotten taken advantage of, used, and generally spit out by the women they've dealt with.
I gave advice to one in general, and explained the whys and wherefores....
Why exactly the women looked at him in a certain way, but it didn't change his behaviour, nor outlook.
He was happy being what he was.
He's still single and living with another trainer in a two bedroom flat near the gym.
(On a side note: if you intend to bring women home, you'd better be living alone)
If you are that nice guy, just accept your fate and eventually you may find a female who appreciates your sentient nature.
Just realize you will have to go through many women to find that one.
Bare your soul and stay true to who you are.
Stay true.
DIV
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Generally, women don't respond well to niceness.
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I think it all depends on what your looking for. Nice guys with an edge have a major advantage of the bad boy types who eventually turn out to be pricks in the ladies eyes. If your looking to wet your noodle, then I think it pays off to be a little more aggressive versus layed back. An alpha male has a 99.9% chance of scoring with the ladies over someone who is too nice and too layed back. Unfortunatly most women confuse the alpha male with the bad boy and thats the mistake. Then the guy turns out to be a real prick. unfortunate but true.
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I think it all depends on what your looking for. Nice guys with an edge have a major advantage of the bad boy types who eventually turn out to be pricks in the ladies eyes. If your looking to wet your noodle, then I think it pays off to be a little more aggressive versus layed back. An alpha male has a 99.9% chance of scoring with the ladies over someone who is too nice and too layed back. Unfortunatly most women confuse the alpha male with the bad boy and thats the mistake. Then the guy turns out to be a real prick. unfortunate but true.
Exactly right.
I am the edgy guy with a streak of nice..........just that a woman doesn't see the nice side unless she's with me.
Otherwise I seem more a badboy to the outside eye.
DIV
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Exactly right.
I am the edgy guy with a streak of nice..........just that a woman doesn't see the nice side unless she's with me.
Otherwise I seem more a badboy to the outside eye.
DIV
Makes two of us. I get the "you look so mean" line all the time. Who knows. I'm a nice guy :)
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Makes two of us. I get the "you look so mean" line all the time. Who knows. I'm a nice guy :)
Well, I'm not a social person and I am picky about who I talk to.........women and otherwise, so that adds to the perception.
To those I choose to speak with, I'm a decent person.
I'm just not user-friendly and I don't talk to people I don't like.
DIV
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Well, I'm not a social person and I am picky about who I talk to.........women and otherwise, so that adds to the perception.
To those I choose to speak with, I'm a decent person.
I'm just not user-friendly and I don't talk to people I don't like.
DIV
Thats cool. At least you know what you want and what your looking for.
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Thats cool. At least you know what you want and what your looking for.
If you don't know what you want, you don't know what you DON'T want........and that is a PROBLEM. :-X
DIV
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yo div..common now i'm a nice guy.... :)
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yo div..common now i'm a nice guy.... :)
Juni,
Make sure to call me later.
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Juni,
Make sure to call me later.
ya home right now?
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ya home right now?
Yes. We can hang tonight or tomorrow.
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Yes. We can hang tonight or tomorrow.
hangings gonna wait till next sunday...
remember when i work i work monday thru saturday...soo i'll be teaching till 6 pm tomorrow in rockville.. >:(
i have next sunday off.....lets have dinner and maybe hit up a bar then...i'll call ya now...
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Been studying all day.....bored shirtless.
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Peter Parker here, perenial nice guy, but Venom lurks inside ;D. The funny thing is I am one of those people who talks to anybody and everybody, yet people are shocked, when they think I'm one way yet they see the other side, Im really just a happy person, and want any woman I'm with to be happy, what's the point of constant fussing and fighting?
I think that women don't know what they want, yet want a bad boy, church boy-good guy, playa, caring man, ass-swipe all in one. I get more attention from women (black) if I am smart-ass or very sarcastic than if I were a nice guy or more laid back than Don Cornelis. I also believe that women who lack male role models and come from single parent homes are the main ones who contribute to the confusion...
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Women like you to mess around w/ them and irritate them to an extent.
Shiet, if you can get under her skin with knowing and making fun of her personal quirks, till she like stamps her foot in frustration, and slaps at you (best if you can dodge it, then she's REALLY FRUSTRATED) - That woman will hump you. ;)
This is NOT a insult slap your hunting for. No No...
Your to the point you know a bit what makes her tick if you pull off the first one...
If "Nice" is being super polite and accomadating, never confrontational of ANYTHING about her - Forget it.
Hell, I think WOMEN are geneticly programed to test for and reject taht kind of guy. He wont stand up
for her when the chips are down....
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If "Nice" is being super polite and accomadating, never confrontational of ANYTHING about her - Forget it.
Hell, I think WOMEN are geneticly programed to test for and reject taht kind of guy. He wont stand up
for her when the chips are down....
True.
Guys should be sure someone is worth their time as well.
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True.
Guys should be sure someone is worth their time as well.
Right, she need to have your back & best intrests in mind. Team work or you wont last.
A woman w/ business experience is a big plus. Naive mates are just a ticket to frustration and loss for the both of you.
Need to be able to trust her judgment... Thats why its not worth dealing with one who has major emotional issues; they tend to have a platoon of similar friends. It is not worth it no matter what else she has going on.
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Right, she need to have your back & best intrests in mind. Team work or you wont last.
A woman w/ business experience is a big plus. Naive mates are just a ticket to frustration and loss for the both of you.
Need to be able to trust her judgment... Thats why its not worth dealing with one who has major emotional issues; they tend to have a platoon of similar friends. It is not worth it no matter what else she has going on.
BINGO!!!
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You need to be able to trust a partner's judgement.
There's nothing worse than having to be the eyes, ears, mouth, and brain for someone else.
And if you're the type of man that makes a woman grow a set of balls by necessity, ...shoot yourself now!
before she does it for you
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Right, if they cant pull off the best decision (along the lines of what you'd BOTH do) w/ out you there, ya prolly shouldn't be partners. ("Partners" in that respect, is actually a better term, now than I thik about it than "Married".
TRusting judgment is crucial. esp if ya happen to be 12 time zones apart at that moment.
Many American women (act like they..) don't like to make a decision. Often they have strong feelings that they ain't gona show. They refuse to tip them cards. Next, even worse, they'll pout about what the guy did, and STILL not get to the point. I almost feel better w/ someone who's 1st language is NOT mine - They are MORE TO THE POINT!
Often brutally so, but thats way better then the "READ MY MIND GAME".
Not ALL American women are like that, but too many young ones are.
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Right, if they cant pull off the best decision (along the lines of what you'd BOTH do) w/ out you there, ya prolly shouldn't be partners. ("Partners" in that respect, is actually a better term, now than I thik about it than "Married".
TRusting judgment is crucial. esp if ya happen to be 12 time zones apart at that moment.
Many American women (act like they..) don't like to make a decision. Often they have strong feelings that they ain't gona show. They refuse to tip them cards. Next, even worse, they'll pout about what the guy did, and STILL not get to the point. I almost feel better w/ someone who's 1st language is NOT mine - They are MORE TO THE POINT!
Often brutally so, but thats way better then the "READ MY MIND GAME".
Not ALL American women are like that, but too many young ones are.
What's worse than the "READ MY MIND GAME" is those idiots who expect you to play the "READ MY MIND GAME", and can't take it when you tell them point blank both why & how they screwed up. Do I look like a Southern belle? They'll look you straight in the face, smile, and say "Bless you Darrrrling". Me... I'd rather rip the fuckers nuts off!
Don't mind me, ...just doing a little venting, before severing ties.
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What's worse than the "READ MY MIND GAME" is those idiots who expect you to play the "READ MY MIND GAME", and can't take it when you tell them point blank both why & how they screwed up. Do I look like a Southern belle? They'll look you straight in the face, smile, and say "Bless you Darrrrling". Me... I'd rather rip the fuckers nuts off!
Don't mind me, ...just doing a little venting, before severing ties.
Jag, Language Luv, Language! A jaguar doesn't need to bare her fangs....
By the way, the R&B Artist Avant has a song called "Read Your Mind"...
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Jag, Language Luv, Language! A jaguar doesn't need to bare her fangs....
She does when she's dealing with a brain dead fucking moron! >:(
And what about my FUCKING LANGUAGE do you not fucking understand?!
I'm speaking English aren't I?
Tell you what Parker... how about you don't tell me how to speak...
...and I won't tell you which ghetto fabulous brain dead idiot messing with the wrong gang banger to worry about rescuing... deal?
By the way, the R&B Artist Avant has a song called "Read Your Mind"...
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She does when she's dealing with a brain dead fucking moron! >:(
And what about my FUCKING LANGUAGE do you not fucking understand?!
I'm speaking English aren't I?
Tell you what Parker... how about you don't tell me how to speak...
...and I won't tell you which ghetto fabulous brain dead idiot messing with the wrong gang banger to worry about rescuing... deal?
:-\. Not used to talking like that, I understand perfectly. But as you said "venting". The last sentence...I don't get?
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What's worse than the "READ MY MIND GAME" is those idiots who expect you to play the "READ MY MIND GAME", and can't take it when you tell them point blank both why & how they screwed up. Do I look like a Southern belle? They'll look you straight in the face, smile, and say "Bless you Darrrrling". Me... I'd rather rip the fuckers nuts off!
Don't mind me, ...just doing a little venting, before severing ties.
A lot of guys much prefer the above mode. At least they know what up.
Wondering, and letting stuff stew till a climatic volcano of past wrongs blows up, is prolly part of every new relation.
The wonderfull... Don't Fart stage ;D It's Very uncomfortable.
Being SO-SO, carefull not to offend that person at first; That it'd be better if each DID let on more...
Some stuff ain't worth it, and PPl kind of will blow up about another thing than whats REALLY eatin' at them to.
Just need to have a good read on someone that your spendin lots of time. Whether a marriage or business of whatever.
When ya really KNOW someone, What they say ain't even as important as tone, expression, body language... etc.
I know EVERY one of the creatures on my village board well enough to know who's lying, hiding something etc regardless of what they say w/ they mouth.
If your close to someone it can get so you can communicate very well, even at a glance. I think certain PPL just have a easier time w/ each other.
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She does when she's dealing with a brain dead fucking moron! >:(
And what about my FUCKING LANGUAGE do you not fucking understand?!
I'm speaking English aren't I?
Tell you what Parker... how about you don't tell me how to speak...
...and I won't tell you which ghetto fabulous brain dead idiot messing with the wrong gang banger to worry about rescuing... deal?
Stay calm Jag stay calm, Parker is cool :)
On a seperate note, why is the girl talk board seeming to be full of well mostly one guy, but guys discussing women all the time? Am I a moron, or is the board supposed to be to talk about "girl talk" as in things girls are interested in, not for well a guy to unload all his purported relationship issues?
I am posting it..but others think it, and the mods may want to consider what direction they want the board to go in as it may potentially head towards being practically no females left posting here, and no female orientated conversations.
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Stay calm Jag stay calm, Parker is cool :)
On a seperate note, why is the girl talk board seeming to be full of well mostly one guy, but guys discussing women all the time? Am I a moron, or is the board supposed to be to talk about "girl talk" as in things girls are interested in, not for well a guy to unload all his purported relationship issues?
I am posting it..but others think it, and the mods may want to consider what direction they want the board to go in as it may potentially head towards being practically no females left posting here, and no female orientated conversations.
GOOD point CQ. NO! YOur not a moron or crazy, that may lead you to ask "What am I doing here?" ;D
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GOOD point CQ. NO! YOur not a moron or crazy, that may lead you to ask "What am I doing here?" ;D
LOL, well I was trying to...errrr be polite, but I wasn't talking about you or some of the other guys. I like many of you guys input.
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LOL, well I was trying to...errrr be polite, but I wasn't talking about you or some of the other guys. I like many of you guys input.
THere's some strange life forms lurking here?
Like Mr Black Belt ::). Oh Wow, do I feel stupid geting sucked in by that act.
Did you read his last posts there? He, "Had a few drinks and went home w/ another guy"... ;D
WTF! Please God make it stop!!!!!!
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She does when she's dealing with a brain dead fucking moron! >:(
And what about my FUCKING LANGUAGE do you not fucking understand?!
I'm speaking English aren't I?
Tell you what Parker... how about you don't tell me how to speak...
...and I won't tell you which ghetto fabulous brain dead idiot messing with the wrong gang banger to worry about rescuing... deal?
I sense some hostility amidst our group.
Parker is harmless, just a gentle soul at heart.
Perhaps you'd like to vent at one of the people you truly abhor........like me? :-\
DIV
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THere's some strange life forms lurking here?
Like Mr Black Belt ::). Oh Wow, do I feel stupid geting sucked in by that act.
Did you read his last posts there? He, "Had a few drinks and went home w/ another guy"... ;D
WTF! Please God make it stop!!!!!!
I knoooooooooow!
I notice the whole thread got deleted, I just went looking to see what more delusions he was posting. He was either a total nut, or a gimmic...
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She does when she's dealing with a brain dead fucking moron! >:(
And what about my FUCKING LANGUAGE do you not fucking understand?!
I'm speaking English aren't I?
Tell you what Parker... how about you don't tell me how to speak...
...and I won't tell you which ghetto fabulous brain dead idiot messing with the wrong gang banger to worry about rescuing... deal?
Someone needs a hug. :)
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Someone needs a hug. :)
Someone needs a drink and/or a good lay. :-X
DIV
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Someone needs a drink and/or a good lay. :-X
DIV
I was thinking about something more primal, followed by a comforting hug. :)
But..... since it's a touchy, feely type board I felt that was implied so there was no need to go there.
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I was thinking about something more primal, followed by a comforting hug. :)
But..... since it's a touchy, feely type board I felt that was implied so there was no need to go there.
On this forum, implication can lead to provocation.
I made a post last night and it was deleted this morning.........
Evidently, censorship is alive and well here.
DIV
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On this forum, implication can lead to provocation.
I made a post last night and it was deleted this morning.........
Evidently, censorship is alive and well here.
DIV
You were warned, LOL! It's your own need to push buttons that need to be kept in check.
"To all fellow getbiggers, please note that this board is heavily moderated. Please remain respectful in this area. You have all the other boards for teasing, flaming and pwning. If you are found to be insulting or disrespectful to other members of this board your posts WILL be deleted immediately. And for those who want to cry "foul"...cry on another board. This board was created as a place for people to escape the negativity and whatnot of some of the other boards.
Also, please note this message is from ALL the moderator's of this board, not just myself.
Thank you."
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You were warned, LOL! It's your own need to push buttons that need to be kept in check.
True, yet as I told Stella yesterday...........if you want to delete and censor, all you're going to have is a forum full of makeup, food and handbag discussions.
Do people really want that?
This is still GetBig.com...........not Cosmo. :-X
DIV
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True, yet as I told Stella yesterday...........if you want to delete and censor, all you're going to have is a forum full of makeup, food and handbag discussions.
Do people really want that?
This is still GetBig.com...........not Cosmo. :-X
DIV
There are 40+ forums here, this is girl talk - so yes it supposed to be full of make-up and handbag discussions as most girls like all that - and any man who doesn't know that doesn't know women.
And yes, the girls here do want that and we hope this board can remain so...there are 40 other boards that guys can discuss all their stuff and insult women to their hearts content. The steroid board is for steroid talk, girls don't go there and start handbag threads. The training board is for training, girls don't go there and post about lipgloss. This is "girl talk"............hence the subject matter should in fact be "girl talk".
Hope that helps :)
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True, yet as I told Stella yesterday...........if you want to delete and censor, all you're going to have is a forum full of makeup, food and handbag discussions.
Do people really want that?
This is still GetBig.com...........not Cosmo. :-X
DIV
To paraphrase some nitwit kind person who expressed multiple concerns over a few of my posts: "this is supposed to be a safe zone where wmen can freely express themselve without the normal harrassment that goes on everywhere else on GetBig" LOFL!!!
In deference to Stella... I only post serious responses on two threads, here. Any other posts I try to type really, really .... really slow and keep things simple and non-inflammatory. Forget that most of the active posters here are men and without us this forum would be nothing but iced coffee and more pics of Laura.
Other than Gardasil, there are that many serious threads here anyways. Yes, you and I are serious about women but it's doubtful they would actually understand why the forum has an attractive flavor to some guys.
You've tried, repeatedly, to discuss morals and how they can clash with instincts but all a few of them see is sex, LOL! If it were merely about sex the deed would be done already.
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so yes it supposed to be full of make-up and handbag discussions as most girls like all that - and any man who doesn't know that doesn't know women.
WOW!!!!!
i love ya CQ but that single statement set back American woman 50 yrs and hammered ALL that i find wrong with American women(including my sister)....why does that conjure up an image of rossie o donnel for me?? hmmm...
apparently ...i know nothing of women...and from your definition of em...again, apparently most of em aren't worth knowing.
my first ammendment takes presedence to this being a cu....<ahem> woman board...
woman board does not automatically mean a safe haven for man haters......err i meant single lonely women in their 40s...hit home?
kepeesh?
n yeah...ya rubbed me the wrong way...however if u r a girl and getting pissed after reading this post..
..truth hurts..and i KNOW for a FACE stells will agree with this post...although she wouldn't agree with it in a billion yrs..
ciao..
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To paraphrase some nitwit kind person who expressed multiple concerns over a few of my posts: "this is supposed to be a safe zone where wmen can freely express themselve without the normal harrassment that goes on everywhere else on GetBig" LOFL!!!
In deference to Stella... I only post serious responses on two threads, here. Any other posts I try to type really, really .... really slow and keep things simple and non-inflammatory. Forget that most of the active posters here are men and without us this forum would be nothing but iced coffee and more pics of Laura.
Other than Gardasil, there are that many serious threads here anyways. Yes, you and I are serious about women but it's doubtful they would actually understand why the forum has an attractive flavor to some guys.
You've tried, repeatedly, to discuss morals and how they can clash with instincts but all a few of them see is sex, LOL! If it were merely about sex the deed would be done already.
I believe it was the word "bush" that got them miffed.
......and if it was just about sex, I would have invited her over when she originally asked.
Some people just can't see the bigger picture.
DIV
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I believe it was the word "bush" that got them miffed.
......and if it was just about sex, I would have invited her over when she originally asked.
Some people just can't see the bigger picture.
DIV
I feel "sex is sex", as an attitde, empowers women.
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WOW!!!!!
i love ya CQ but that single statement set back American woman 50 yrs and hammered ALL that i find wrong with American women(including my sister)....why does that conjure up an image of rossie o donnel for me?? hmmm...
apparently ...i know nothing of women...and from your definition of em...again, apparently most of em aren't worth knowing.
my first ammendment takes presedence to this being a cu....<ahem> woman board...
woman board does not automatically mean a safe haven for man haters......err i meant single lonely women in their 40s...hit home?
kepeesh?
n yeah...ya rubbed me the wrong way...however if u r a girl and getting pissed after reading this post..
..truth hurts..and i KNOW for a FACE stells will agree with this post...although she wouldn't agree with it in a billion yrs..
ciao..
Perhaps I overexaggerated for dramatic effect lol, but what I meant what the general tone of the board is meant to appeal for women......Most men don't give a flying crap about either handbags or makeup, whereas bottom line more women are interested in those matter than males.
The fitness board I half live on, and post about fitness comps etc. Politics I like and post about politics. Pets bore me to tears, hence I rarely post on the pet board. Different boards, different vibes, hence why Ron created different boards. Like you, you post all over getbig about varied topics - always have, sometimes serious, sometimes fun talking. Most guys here are way cool, but I find it notable for a male to almost exclusively post on "girl talk" while rarely posting on other boards, with content matter that is not appropriate for the board ...... even though through others posting one can the constant bombardment annoys and bores....well the crap out of most the people who the board is actually designed for.
If I went to the Pet board and started posting about how I think the war on terror is wrong 30 times, they may get annoyed....same with most boards.
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Perhaps I overexaggerated for dramatic effect lol, but what I meant what the general tone of the board is meant to appeal for women......Most men don't give a flying crap about either handbags or makeup, whereas bottom line more women are interested in those matter than males.
The fitness board I half live on, and post about fitness comps etc. Politics I like and post about politics. Pets bore me to tears, hence I rarely post on the pet board. Different boards, different vibes, hence why Ron created different boards. Like you, you post all over getbig about varied topics - always have, sometimes serious, sometimes fun talking. Most guys here are way cool, but I find it notable for a male to almost exclusively post on "girl talk" while rarely posting on other boards, with content matter that is not appropriate for the board ...... even though through others posting one can the constant bombardment annoys and bores....well the crap out of most the people who the board is actually designed for.
If I went to the Pet board and started posting about how I think the war on terror is wrong 30 times, they may get annoyed....same with most boards.
dammit..i actually got on to remove my post...yeah what ya said pissed me off but i know you didn't mean it globally..you mean it spur of the moment and something someone else said pissed me off before and i took it out on you.....soodamit i hate when i do this..
apologize for my behaviour.. :(
however remember though as whelemently as amrican women always ask for equal rights it does across hypocricial as the argument as you make..
cheers..
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Perhaps I overexaggerated for dramatic effect lol, but what I meant what the general tone of the board is meant to appeal for women......Most men don't give a flying crap about either handbags or makeup, whereas bottom line more women are interested in those matter than males.
The fitness board I half live on, and post about fitness comps etc. Politics I like and post about politics. Pets bore me to tears, hence I rarely post on the pet board. Different boards, different vibes, hence why Ron created different boards. Like you, you post all over getbig about varied topics - always have, sometimes serious, sometimes fun talking. Most guys here are way cool, but I find it notable for a male to almost exclusively post on "girl talk" while rarely posting on other boards, with content matter that is not appropriate for the board ...... even though through others posting one can the constant bombardment annoys and bores....well the crap out of most the people who the board is actually designed for.
If I went to the Pet board and started posting about how I think the war on terror is wrong 30 times, they may get annoyed....same with most boards.
Girls don't ever discuss sex?
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dammit..i actually got on to remove my post...yeah what ya said pissed me off but i know you didn't mean it globally..you mean it spur of the moment and something someone else said pissed me off before and i took it out on you.....soodamit i hate when i do this..
apologize for my behaviour.. :(
however remember though as whelemently as amrican women always ask for equal rights it does across hypocricial as the argument as you make..
cheers..
Thanks, but nothing to apologize for Toxic, your post and behaviour were both cool lol. No problem...... ;).
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I feel "sex is sex", as an attitde, empowers women.
Sex as a double standard doesn't work for men or women.......it simply makes things difficult between the sexes.
I wish things could be different, but women tie emotion in to sex so much of the time......
DIV
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:-\. Not used to talking like that, I understand perfectly. But as you said "venting". The last sentence...I don't get?
It's exactly what I said...just venting a little before severing ties. I need to vent.
The SOB who needs the shit royally kicked out of him is 2000 miles away ...hence unable to get to him ...just yet.
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It's exactly what I said...just venting a little before severing ties. I need to vent.
The SOB who needs the shit royally kicked out of him is 2000 miles away ...hence unable to get to him ...just yet.
NASA astronaut Lisa Marie Nowak
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A lot of guys much prefer the above mode. At least they know what up.
Wondering, and letting stuff stew till a climatic volcano of past wrongs blows up, is prolly part of every new relation.
The wonderfull... Don't Fart stage ;D It's Very uncomfortable.
Being SO-SO, carefull not to offend that person at first; That it'd be better if each DID let on more...
Some stuff ain't worth it, and PPl kind of will blow up about another thing than whats REALLY eatin' at them to.
Just need to have a good read on someone that your spendin lots of time. Whether a marriage or business of whatever.
When ya really KNOW someone, What they say ain't even as important as tone, expression, body language... etc.
I know EVERY one of the creatures on my village board well enough to know who's lying, hiding something etc regardless of what they say w/ they mouth.
If your close to someone it can get so you can communicate very well, even at a glance. I think certain PPL just have a easier time w/ each other.
My problem is not the "don't fart around them stage" it's a passive submissive brain-dead whiny attention seeking moron who is in need of some serious ass-kicking along with psychiatric help. An imbecile who would have an absolute kannipshit over hearing the F-word, ...so Parker telling me to watch my language at that particular point in the day didn't exactly help my mood any.
This guy keeps calling me up wailing about all his problems... non-stop to the point where I'm beginning to just plain not give a shit. This is an individual who can't seem to rub 2 brain cells together. It makes me wonder how he's able to get dressed in the morning. I finally told him point blank, ..."If it doesn't have to do with X, or isn't about X, ...I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT! PERIOD!!!". What does the fucking guy do.... He calls me up exactly 4 hrs later from his cell phone saying "I just wanted to let you know I'm calling you from the back of an ambulance. The paramedic says 'I'm having a stroke'. ::)
People like that sicken & disgust me beyond belief. How much more fucking pathetic can you get?
I swear I'm tempted to spit. I mean, ...is this guy 52 or 2? Then he has the nerve to ask me to tell him everytime I think he's not being a man... ::) Like I have all fucking day! ::) ::)
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I believe it was the word "bush" that got them miffed.
......and if it was just about sex, I would have invited her over when she originally asked.
Some people just can't see the bigger picture.
DIV
No I think it's just your presence.
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My problem is not the "don't fart around them stage" it's a passive submissive brain-dead whiny attention seeking moron who is in need of some serious ass-kicking along with psychiatric help. An imbecile who would have an absolute kannipshit over hearing the F-word, ...so Parker telling me to watch my language at that particular point in the day didn't exactly help my mood any.
This guy keeps calling me up wailing about all his problems... non-stop to the point where I'm beginning to just plain not give a shit. This is an individual who can't seem to rub 2 brain cells together. It makes me wonder how he's able to get dressed in the morning. I finally told him point blank, ..."If it doesn't have to do with X, or isn't about X, ...I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT! PERIOD!!!". What does the fucking guy do.... He calls me up exactly 4 hrs later from his cell phone saying "I just wanted to let you know I'm calling you from the back of an ambulance. The paramedic says 'I'm having a stroke'. ::)
People like that sicken & disgust me beyond belief. How much more fucking pathetic can you get?
I swear I'm tempted to spit. I mean, ...is this guy 52 or 2? Then he has the nerve to ask me to tell him everytime I think he's not being a man... ::) Like I have all fucking day! ::) ::)
That dude sounds like an emotional cripple.
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That dude sounds like an emotional cripple.
A spine-less, brain dead, emotional cripple... who will cling to your ass worse than a too tight g-string.
...worse that chewing gum on your shoe on a very hot day.
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A spine-less, brain dead, emotional cripple... who will cling to your ass worse than a too tight g-string.
...worse that chewing gum on your shoe on a very hot day.
Got to be rude as Hell. Threatening if need be.
Problem is with your Biz, .. your Ph#s are not like socks....Cant just change them. They are very valuable.
I can see how this'd be a problem... Can you BLOCK HIS CALLS? Or something along that line. Filter somehow.
He wont stop. These kind seek out missfortune. They will just drag you down.
"Save yourself" like my wife says. Thats very important where shes from. Cant save the world.
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Judi,
It seems like this guy need the help of a paid, trained professional. It's pretty rude for him to impose on a business associate with problems like this.
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Thanks CQ and DIV, Jag, have you told the dude to grow a pair, and don't call back until he does. If anymore calls, tell him that you will take action (ie:change phone number, call the police for charges of telephone harrassment)
Or go the old school route have someone "have talk with him". Dudes who whine about their problems, but don't inact any solutions to the problems tend to either have abandonment issues or had a mother who solved all their problems for them
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Got to be rude as Hell. Threatening if need be.
Problem is with your Biz, .. your Ph#s are not like socks....Cant just change them. They are very valuable.
Believe me, ...I've tried that route. You have absolutely nooooo idea just how rude I have been...
...but when someone is slightly masochistic, ...rudeness doesn't work. I know what I need to do.
Not looking forward to it, 'cause I know it'll be emotionally devastating for him, ...but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
I can see how this'd be a problem... Can you BLOCK HIS CALLS? Or something along that line. Filter somehow.
He wont stop. These kind seek out missfortune. They will just drag you down.
Can't exactly block all his calls, but have made it clear to him he needs to unblock his number when he calls because I don't answer 'unknown caller' calls. That helps somewhat, because when I see his number come up, ...I just let it go straight into voicemail. He's an emotional vampire. Just talking to him feels like I've been latched onto by an emotional parasite that sucks the life right out of you. :-X So seeing other emotional cripples unable to make heads or tails of their "relationships" makes my eyes roll so far back in my head it ain't funny.
"Save yourself" like my wife says. Thats very important where shes from. Cant save the world.
I realize that, ...and the teat is about to be switched off. ;)
Judi,
It seems like this guy need the help of a paid, trained professional. It's pretty rude for him to impose on a business associate with problems like this.
Unfortunately, that type of imposition frequently comes up. Many people join network mtkg for many reasons, some join because they want friends, while others join because they want to change their lives financially and make a shitload of money. I focus on those who want to change their lives financially making shitloads of money, ...but you can't avoid the other type who will frequently pretend that is their goal & focus. They want attention, ...but don't merit it, ...and fight like babies to get it.
True story: one year at a convention in Austin Texas, I was having dinner with a guy named Lance. He was hosting the convention that year, cause he was the strongest leader in our host city. He was also an actor with whom I had more than a few things in common, ...and there was a bit of a mutual spark between us. We were seated, dinner had been served, we were already eating, right in the middle of our meal... and this guy came up to the table, and said I saved you a seat over there with Vickie. Talk about an awkward moment. I explained "we've already started eating". Maybe I can pop by later ...maybe over coffee etc." He kept insisting that I pick up my plate and walk clear across the banquet room to sit with him & Vickie. It was one of the most embarrassing things I had witnessed. Everyone at the table was furiously wiping their mouths with their napkins in order to disguise their overwhelming urge to burst out laughing. The rest of the convention he spent giving Lance the dirtiest looks for the entire time we were there. The next day while having lunch with Lance was even more awkward. He plopped himself down at our table and glowered at him the entire time. The jealousy & covetousness over your time & attention can be more than a little annoying... it's claustrophobic. And we have a global conference coming up this week. He's gonna be in for a helluva shock because the entire time, I'll be hanging with an old friend from Boston that I haven't seen in a while.
Thanks CQ and DIV, Jag, have you told the dude to grow a pair, and don't call back until he does. If anymore calls, tell him that you will take action (ie:change phone number, call the police for charges of telephone harrassment)
Thanks Parker, but no, changing the phone number or calling the police is not an option.
Believe me, I've told him to grow a pair many times.
Or go the old school route have someone "have talk with him". Dudes who whine about their problems, but don't inact any solutions to the problems tend to either have abandonment issues or had a mother who solved all their problems for them
Having someone "talk with him" is also not an option. He's not an enemy, ...just an annoying parasite. {lol}
I know what I have to do. I'm simply going to allow him to take a good long hard look at the type of man who I respect, and want to hang out with, one who merits my time, attention and respect, ...and allow himself to take a good long hard look at himself in a mirror. Then compare the two.
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Believe me, ...I've tried that route. You have absolutely nooooo idea just how rude I have been...
...but when someone is slightly masochistic, ...rudeness doesn't work. I know what I need to do.
Not looking forward to it, 'cause I know it'll be emotionally devastating for him, ...but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Can't exactly block all his calls, but have made it clear to him he needs to unblock his number when he calls because I don't answer 'unknown caller' calls. That helps somewhat, because when I see his number come up, ...I just let it go straight into voicemail. He's an emotional vampire. Just talking to him feels like I've been latched onto by an emotional parasite that sucks the life right out of you. :-X So seeing other emotional cripples unable to make heads or tails of their "relationships" makes my eyes roll so far back in my head it ain't funny.
I realize that, ...and the teat is about to be switched off. ;)
Unfortunately, that type of imposition frequently comes up. Many people join network mtkg for many reasons, some join because they want friends, while others join because they want to change their lives financially and make a shitload of money. I focus on those who want to change their lives financially making shitloads of money, ...but you can't avoid the other type who will frequently pretend that is their goal & focus. They want attention, ...but don't merit it, ...and fight like babies to get it.
True story: one year at a convention in Austin Texas, I was having dinner with a guy named Lance. He was hosting the convention that year, cause he was the strongest leader in our host city. He was also an actor with whom I had more than a few things in common, ...and there was a bit of a mutual spark between us. We were seated, dinner had been served, we were already eating, right in the middle of our meal... and this guy came up to the table, and said I saved you a seat over there with Vickie. Talk about an awkward moment. I explained "we've already started eating". Maybe I can pop by later ...maybe over coffee etc." He kept insisting that I pick up my plate and walk clear across the banquet room to sit with him & Vickie. It was one of the most embarrassing things I had witnessed. Everyone at the table was furiously wiping their mouths with their napkins in order to disguise their overwhelming urge to burst out laughing. The rest of the convention he spent giving Lance the dirtiest looks for the entire time we were there. The next day while having lunch with Lance was even more awkward. He plopped himself down at our table and glowered at him the entire time. The jealousy & covetousness over your time & attention can be more than a little annoying... it's claustrophobic. And we have a global conference coming up this week. He's gonna be in for a helluva shock because the entire time, I'll be hanging with an old friend from Boston that I haven't seen in a while.
Thanks Parker, but no, changing the phone number or calling the police is not an option.
Believe me, I've told him to grow a pair many times.
Having someone "talk with him" is also not an option. He's not an enemy, ...just an annoying parasite. {lol}
I know what I have to do. I'm simply going to allow him to take a good long hard look at the type of man who I respect, and want to hang out with, one who merits my time, attention and respect, ...and allow himself to take a good long hard look at himself in a mirror. Then compare the two.
The Bitch of not answering "Blocked" or "Private" is it will cost you. And you never know just how valuable a stupid call turns out to be. I damn well know that. Its not easy to tell, and you dont know what you threw away.
Ive come close to burning myself out of some real good scores by just this issue.
ANd who knows the "Ones that got away"?
Seems like youve a better plan than a restraing order to me.... ;) ;D Some need it brutal.
Seems like he's way more than old enough to know better... Have fun, video tape it? Please?
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Judi,
I think the correct term is cock-blocking. :)
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The Bitch of not answering "Blocked" or "Private" is it will cost you. And you never know just how valuable a stupid call turns out to be. I damn well know that. Its not easy to tell, and you dont know what you threw away.
Oh believe me, I answer the 'Unknown Callers' too. I just tell him I don't. Alot of times foreign numbers will come up as unknown, as will cell phones, and internal calling systems, so I do answer them. I realized that I was living in fear of answering my own phone because of this guy, ...so I simply answer them. If he calls as unknown and I answer it, I just give him shit for not *82'ing and hang up.
Ive come close to burning myself out of some real good scores by just this issue.
ANd who knows the "Ones that got away"?
I once missed a call 2 months ago from Dan Higginson, the President of Synergy, my previous network mktg company, because I thought it was him, then the next day, I missed a call that I was waiting for from FFi's Director of Operations because I thought it was him, ...so I do answer all calls if I'm here. Speaking of which, ...guess who's calling right now? Yep, ...and it's going into voicemail. {lol}
Seems like youve a better plan than a restraing order to me.... ;) ;D Some need it brutal.
Seems like he's way more than old enough to know better... Have fun, video tape it? Please?
No, won't film it. It's gonna be brutal enough... don't want to have to be re-living it 24/7.
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Good shooting...
Some PPL dont realize that a phone is an important tool.
Not a game. I had the local PD stop a psyco ex-friend of my family from calling.
She said, "You wont call the cops!..." Me,.. Huh... want-a-bet?
The cops told her, "Call again, and you'll have several charges pressed".
Problem solved.
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Good shooting...
Some PPL dont realize that a phone is an important tool.
Not a game. I had the local PD stop a psyco ex-friend of my family from calling.
She said, "You wont call the cops!..." Me,.. Huh... want-a-bet?
The cops told her, "Call again, and you'll have several charges pressed".
Problem solved.
Oh don't get me wrong, ...I have had people charged in the past,
...but pressing charges against this individual is not an option.
He's getting there, ...I just can't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet.
I wouldn't mind his phone calls if he kept them strictly to business, without delving into all the other crap.
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Oh don't get me wrong, ...I have had people charged in the past,
...but pressing charges against this individual is not an option.
He's getting there, ...I just can't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet.
I wouldn't mind his phone calls if he kept them strictly to business, without delving into all the other crap.
Judi,
One of the greediest people I've ever met (a lawyer) told me this: Always keep an eye on your greed. Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered.
If you're greedy enough to put with this jerk-off to sell a few more gas tablets... be willing to bear equal responsibility for the bullshit that ensues. :)
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Judi,
One of the greediest people I've ever met (a lawyer) told me this: Always keep an eye on your greed. Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered.
If you're greedy enough to put with this jerk-off to sell a few more gas tablets... be willing to bear equal responsibility for the bullshit that ensues. :)
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Jake, it's not about greed at all. It's about the responsibility of sponsorship. I have an obligation to this man.
That's why people don't succeed in network mktg, ...because people bring them in, ...and leave them hanging.
As soon as the person enrolls, they're onto the next person. They basically throw them up against a wall, ...and whatever sticks, they work with. Most people who stick usually fight their way through the confusion pioneering their own trail because their sponsor didn't give them a track to run on. I don't operate like that, neither does anyone on my team. We are the strongest, fastest growing team in all of FFi for a reason. We support our group, and we work together as a team. He's been given the track, a viable proven effective system, and all the support he will ever need, ...he just wants someone to spill his guts to.
As his sponsor & upline, I have a duty to assist him in his business... to help him get to the next level.
The problem is he keeps mixing business with his personal problems and I am NOT his psychiatrist, nor will I be.
He chose me, I didn't choose him. Infact he was furious when he found out I was building a business in Synergy and hadn't told him. What did he do? ...he found out my distributor ID, and enrolled with me as his sponsor. At that point I had already stop building Synergy and was actively building FFi, ...what did he do? ...yep you guessed it.
I had had that discussion with him right from the outset that it would be BUSINESS, ...but he's having difficulty maintaining that. I think he's purposely sabotaging himself because he believes the more help he needs, the more I will be there, ...but his thinking is faulty. He has to deserve it as well as need it. I won't be putting up with it any longer. In 17 years, I've only ever had this sort of problem with one other person... someone from my previous company. I just couldn't stand dealing with them anymore, because they weren't coachable.. Most people would just drop them like a hot potato and let them flounder, ...but I can't do that to people, ...especially not someone who had never been in network mktg before who had just invested $600 just to start. So I simply sponsored someone under their left leg, then sponsored someone under their right leg, and worked with those people. As long as she did her monthly autoship... she made money.
In re-reading what I've written, I realize, it's not really as big a problem as it may appear to you guys. It just occassionally raises it's head, and when it does it drives me bonkers. But I am at a point where he's about to be emotionally cut off, ...and I suppose I'm not looking forward to how devastated I know he is going to be, but I have to bite the bullet and wean him. Just doing a little venting. I'm also in a pissy mood because Brad Pitt, Richard Gere & George Clooney are all in town, have been here since Thursday, ...and I have to hop on a plane. :'(
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Aren't the bottom bricks in a pyramid supposed to be stronger? :)
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Aren't the bottom bricks in a pyramid supposed to be stronger? :)
You'd have to ask an architect of pyramids for the correct answer. I wouldn't know.
I don't build pyramids, ...I build legal network mktg organizations. :)
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You'd have to ask an architect of pyramids for the correct answer. I wouldn't know.
I don't build pyramids, ...I build legal network mktg organizations. :)
I would expect nothing less from a true mistress of semantic obfuscation.