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British media has been riveted by the disappearance of the 4 year old girl. her parents left her and younger twins alone in an apt in the Algarve (Portugal) while they dined . . . and she was allegedly snatched. Now portuguese police think that Kate (a pediatrician, I believe) might have accidentally killed the child and disposed off the body. her husband's a doctor too.
If this is true, that woman has more gall than anybody alive . . . the way she's used the press for the last several months is truly amazing.
here she is marching out of the portuguese police hq.
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at the very least, you have to say that she's just a little too put together for someone whose baby's been missing for months.
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I read this story in the Herald today. Apparently British authorities think the Portuguese police have botched the investigation and are trying to blame the mother. It's a sad story and if she did it may she rot in hell.
I wasn't aware that she left her 4 year old and 2 year old twins alone in the house when they were abducted. That's a shady story if I've ever heard one. What mother would leave 3 toddlers alone in a foreign country?
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Milf.
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It took them fucking long enough. This whole story was weird.
I remember reading a break down of the initial police questioning and thinking it was very odd. It was really inconsistent.
Anyway, she's a loon and she killed her daughter.
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I read this story in the Herald today. Apparently British authorities think the Portuguese police have botched the investigation and are trying to blame the mother. It's a sad story and if she did it may she rot in hell.
I wasn't aware that she left her 4 year old and 2 year old twins alone in the house when they were abducted. That's a shady story if I've ever heard one. What mother would leave 3 toddlers alone in a foreign country?
From what I read, they were on vacation with another couple and the twins were theirs.
They were at a hotel and they were having dinner at the hotel restaurant, but they claimed to go upstairs every half hour to check on the kids.
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It took them fucking long enough. This whole story was weird.
I remember reading a break down of the initial police questioning and thinking it was very odd. It was really inconsistent.
Anyway, she's a loon and she killed her daughter.
let's not jump the gun. ;D
the portuguese police are not the most 'with it' cops, but i doubt they would have taken this step w/o some pretty damning evidence.
after all, kate has succeeded in focusing europe's eyes on herself and her family.
AL DOGGITY - the twins are the mccanns.
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Milf.
this could potentially be Murderer(Manslaughter-er) I'd Love to Fuck.
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Anyone have any theories as to why they think the mother did it? they questioned the dad too . . . but it's the mom that they've been after.
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ok folks....
facts 101....
the mc canns (who are both doctors) went for a meal with their friends on the night of ''the disappearance''
they supposedly checked up on their kids every half hour...taking it in turns, with their friends...
the bistro was only 50 yds away from the front door of the apartment they were staying in...
madeline was asleep with her twin siblings...on their own
ok folks....lets spot the flaws.....
1. who out of u folk would leave ANY kid alone in an apartment in a foreign country....let alone 3 kids??? wtf?....hands up...
2. how could u NOT spot someone at the door of that apartment...if u were keeping vigil?
sorry ...... did i say flaws.....i meant ....FLAW!!!!
no parent....at least no caring parent...would ever...EVER!!!...leave ANY child alone without supervision....let alone 3 of them...... i am a parent to 3 kids...and those guys are never out of my site...even at the local park....
i aint saying that the mum is responsible....oh no.... they are BOTH resonsible...!! this is the fucking selfish parents deciding to go for a few drinks and paella....and fuck the kids...they can sleep in their room til we get back....
there have been many kids that have disappeared before and since the madelaine debacle....and whilst i feel for those concerned....i cant help but feel that their position has captured the community....
utter shite tho tbh....something is weird with this case...i hope the papers are wrong....and her mother didnt accidently kill the kid.... but at this stage ...straws will be clutched...
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hmm I said it first to my now wife and she called me sick for even thinking something like that, were I said, it would not be the first time.... but some people are going to be seriously disapointed if they really did it...
They saw the Pope, all the people spending money and so forth... man
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They were on holiday and had dinner every night with about 6 other people, mostly Doctors.
Apparently they left the 3 kids alone every night and the old lady who lived in the apartment above heard the kids crying for their
parents the previous few evenings. The theory is that the Doctors drugged the kids to make them sleep all evening and accidentally gave Madeline an overdose. If true then all the Doctor friends will be in deep shit as they backed up the lies about the constant checking of the kids. There are rumours that they were into wifeswapping. I find most Doctors to be very ignorant when it comes to practical issues and arrogant with it. If the McCanns were an unemployed couple or normal working class they would have been crucified by the media but as Doctors they have received a sycophantic sympathy. I hope this is true because it would mean Madeline didn't suffer at the hands of a pervert and it would out these "Devout Catholic" doctors for what they really are. Hell, they even met with the Pope and kissed his Ring grovelingly (the one on his hand).
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They're guilty as hell and we all know it.
Drugging up your kids just so you can go out on the lash, the fucking animals.
God i hope the Portuguese police don't fuck up and let them off the hook. I'm sick of these bastards being treat like martyrs or whatever by the British media.
If they were working class then the media wouldn't give two shits about them or the dead child.
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Nice to know that innocent 'till proven guilty is still alive and well.
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Nice to know that innocent 'till proven guilty is still alive and well.
True, but the rollercoaster ride this family and the media has had everyone else deserves some majour punishment if they're guilty, like, eternal torture maybe?
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Just read that the British intelligence have gone through basically the whole background of the parents.
Also the Portuguese police were watching them since day 1 and even taped private conversations etc...
I've been to portugal recently and the case was still huge there. I just hope that who-ever's guilty will be found and convicted.
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and the case was still huge??? it's fucking everywhere...no one should give a fuck about it...crimes happen...why the hell should a whole country need to hear about this one when there are so many other????
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all of a sudden, the McCanns want to leave Portugal.
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all of a sudden, the McCanns want to leave Portugal.
this shit has reached comical proportions.....
the mc cann parents have BOTH been named as official suspects....and what do they do????
jump on the first plane home!!!!!
so they stayed for 129 days...while things were going their way...spending elton johns' / public money....and now when the finger is pointed in their direction, they flee....
gerry mc cann looks worse now than when he first discovered his daughter missing....
his family say ''gerry and kate just want to make things as normal as possible for the twins, so they're coming home''
WTF? what was the last 129 days all about then? fucking twins probably speak fluent portugese by now...
there is def something fishy about this whole thing........
sidebar..... do u think elton will ask for his cash back? what will the locals/ family / the pope feel like if this is proved to be true?
the drugging sounds the most plausible theory to me.....
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Anyone have any theories as to why they think the mother did it? they questioned the dad too . . . but it's the mom that they've been after.
Could be the old double standard... always blame the mother for not protecting her children etc.,
...or it could have been the blood they found in the couples rental car that matches Madeleine's.
I don't know the amount of blood or the reasoning for the blood being there.
It could have been alot, or it could have been minor amounts from nothing more than a scraped knee.
All evidence must be throughly presented in context before I will pass judgement on someone.
Under Portuguese law, officially naming someone as a suspect confers special rights to them... what I do not know
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Could be the old double standard... always blame the mother for not protecting her children etc.,
...or it could have been the blood they found in the couples rental car that matches Madeleine's.
The cops whole case is that they found Maddies blood in a car that was only rented AFTER Madelaine was reported missing.
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The cops whole case is that they found Maddies blood in a car that was only rented AFTER Madelaine was reported missing.
I'd say THAT information ... if accurate, could be considered EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT! :o
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I wonder if that rented car was as had good fuel efficiency? Wonder if they used those gas pills, so that they didn't murder the enviroment.
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Haha. I wondered when this story was going to hit Getbig.
Personally I think the McCanns are innocent when it comes to the daughters disappearance. What they're guilty of is extremely bad and selfish parenting - it's typical of career highflyers who want it all - they think they can just swan off and forget about the kids, taking it for granted while they revert back to single-life and have a fucking free-for-all.
People have been saying that the parents don't look that bothered about Madeleine's disappearance - probably because they're on shitloads of sedatives to keep the stress away. They're both doctors - they know what to take.
The Portuguese cops have no clue - that girl was out the country before they could get their act together. It's only becuase of the worldwide media attention that they're now flapping and trying to pin the blame on the obvious suspects but they're clutching at straws.
It annoys me though how they've got all the attention in the media though - can't remember who said it above but it's true what you said about if it were a working-class or black family the media wouldn't give a shit.
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It annoys me though how they've got all the attention in the media though - can't remember who said it above but it's true what you said about if it were a working-class or black family the media wouldn't give a shit.
Haha, oh god...
What decade are you living in?
How primitive are you scots?
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Haha, oh god...
What decade are you living in?
How primitive are you scots?
It's true.
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Don't buy it... if it was a well to do black family the responce would have been the same.
You're just being PC just for the sake of it.
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Don't buy it... if it was a well to do black family the responce would have been the same.
You're just being PC just for the sake of it.
Yeah but you can't win on this one - if it was a poor black family no-one would give a shit due to our society's institutional racism in the media (certainly with the BBC), if it were a well-off black family people would be falling over their feet to help them - reverse racism you see.
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Yeah but you can't win on this one - if it was a poor black family no-one would give a shit due to our society's institutional racism in the media (certainly with the BBC), if it were a well-off black family people would be falling over their feet to help them - reverse racism you see.
Yes, but the racism and reverse racism results in neutral racism, thus no racism lol
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Yeah but you can't win on this one - if it was a poor black family no-one would give a shit due to our society's institutional racism in the media (certainly with the BBC), if it were a well-off black family people would be falling over their feet to help them - reverse racism you see.
exactly what i was thinking....and everyone would be helping the poor nanna, momma, sisters up off the ground, where they collapsed in a heap crying as soon as the cameras arrived....
the dad and grandad would be caught in a portrait shot staring of into the yonder with tearful bulging eyes.
hey i doubt elton john would have donated a million tho..... ;) 8)
this shit got me thinking....what happens to all those millions donated to the mc cann trust?
i know they were having a nice holiday on the cash but now that they are home, will they buy a new car ? anyone?
also, did anyone else notice that while kate faded away and got thinner by the day, ol' gerry didn't lose a pound....?
strange that....
i lose weight when i cant find my car keys....
been meaning to lose them for ages now... :P
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Personally, I only give a shit because she is/was middle class.
If she had been black and/or working class, I would have just thought: "Oh well, less chance of my house being burgled now".
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she lost weight so she could look good for the cameras.
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she lost weight so she could look good for the cameras.
Stress also has a tendency to cause people to lose weight as well.
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Personally, I only give a shit because she is/was middle class.
If she had been black and/or working class, I would have just thought: "Oh well, less chance of my house being burgled now".
Hahaha fuck me... didn't know you was a closet KKK fan buddy!
Did you used to be a police officier by any chance?
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Hahaha fuck me... didn't know you was a closet KKK fan buddy!
Did you used to be a police officier by any chance?
amc is probably just a realist..... no need to be kkk to know facts
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Latest news on this - the DNA was found in the area of the hire car where they keep the spare tyre - showed an 88% match to Madeleine. The hire car was used 25 days after the girl went missing. Which kind of incriminates the parents a tad. The case has now gone to the judge to decide whether to prosecute them or not. Me says yes he will.
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Latest news on this - the DNA was found in the area of the hire car where they keep the spare tyre - showed an 88% match to Madeleine. The hire car was used 25 days after the girl went missing. Which kind of incriminates the parents a tad. The case has now gone to the judge to decide whether to prosecute them or not. Me says yes he will.
Stashing the body and then dumping it 25 days later when you have the world's media up your arse is pretty impressive stuff.
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you'd think doctors would know better than to fiddle with DNA.
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They're guilty as hell and we all know it.
Drugging up your kids just so you can go out on the lash, the fucking animals.
God i hope the Portuguese police don't fuck up and let them off the hook. I'm sick of these bastards being treat like martyrs or whatever by the British media.
If they were working class then the media wouldn't give two shits about them or the dead child.
True.
I said it from the first time i heard about it, WHo the hell leaves their children alone and go to dinner???
Now they say they drugged them up? What kind of sick bastard are these people?
The whole media thing afterwards, the two of them went jogging and gave interviews, build up a professional website, collected loads and loads of money??
Did you ever see them cry and break down? They are cold blooded as hell, and even if they didn't harm their kids directly, i'd call them murderers for leaving the kids alone.
My guess was they killed her from the start.
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True.
I said it from the first time i heard about it, WHo the hell leaves their children alone and go to dinner???
Now they say they drugged them up? What kind of sick bastard are these people?
The whole media thing afterwards, the two of them went jogging and gave interviews, build up a professional website, collected loads and loads of money??
Did you ever see them cry and break down? They are cold blooded as hell, and even if they didn't harm their kids directly, i'd call them murderers for leaving the kids alone.
My guess was they killed her from the start.
Just because no one has seen them cry or break down, doesn't mean they haven't or don't.
Has anyone ever seen YOU break down or cry, ...is that supposed to mean you've never done it?
Also bare in mind as well they have two other children. How one handles a crisis can be greatly affected by remaining obligations. I knew a very prominant woman whose last name you'd recognize were I to share it, who contemplated suicide. She was all set to off herself. The one thing that snapped her out of it was... her two dogs. If she was gone, ...there would be no one there to take care of them. THAT whipped her into shape in less than 30 seconds flat. She determined she was going to be strong so she could be there for her dogs.
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2-1 odds the mum did it.
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Stashing the body and then dumping it 25 days later when you have the world's media up your arse is pretty impressive stuff.
True - takes quite a bit of nerve but if memory serves me correctly the media scrum had died down a bit 25 days or so into the investigation. Everyone assumed at that stage the child had been abducted and she was being hidden away in a foreign country elsewhere in Europe.
Police now want to search the grounds of a church that the McCanns had been given a key to to go and pray on a 24 hour basis.
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on a 24 hour basis.
WTF... ::)
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Supposedly the police intercepted some incriminating emails and phone calls...
Should be interesting to read them...
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Supposedly the police intercepted some incriminating emails and phone calls...
Should be interesting to read them...
are they stupid to talk over the phone lines
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talking about this in gym today. few points interesting
maddy;s dna found in car rented 25 days after she went missing
apparantly dna suggests that maddy may not be gerry's biological daughter
rumours teh family are swingers
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I think you mean that the parents are swingers.
i can totally see that.
even if they had nothing to do w madeleine's death, they are total pieces of shit . . . wtf leaves their kids alone like that?
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A neighboor (in portugal) said that the mother was quite hysterical at times, while the father didn't seem to care much.
They also locked up Maddie frequently while they went swimming. The girl used to yell for her father in her room.
Innocent till proven guilty, but still ...
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I see Richard Branson has pledged a 100 000 Pounds to help the defence case of the McCann s
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I see Richard Branson has pledged a 100 000 Pounds to help the defence case of the McCann s
hahah Branson is the king of Swingers
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Supposedly they found traces of sedatives in the bodily fluids they found in the car.
But unless they have the bodie or a confession they can't really do anything against the parents...
I see Richard Branson has pledged a 100 000 Pounds to help the defence case of the McCann s
Pfff... There are thousands of families that could use the money better.
Anything to get his name in the papers i guess.
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does anyone know where all the swinger rumors are coming from?
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Gerry McCann is convinced his daughter's kidnapper was hiding behind a door in their holiday apartment as he checked on his sleeping children, according to a friend.
The cardiologist saw all three of his offspring – Madeleine, and the twins Sean and Amelie – sleeping peacefully at just after 9pm on the night of her disappearance.
But as he turned to leave the ground floor room, he noticed that a door which he thought he had closed earlier was slightly ajar.
Agonisingly, he is now sure that standing behind this door was his four-year-old daughter's abductor, waiting to steal her from her bed in the Praia da Luz.
The haunting memory was revealed by a close family friend, who said Mr McCann and his wife Kate, both 39, checked on their children as they ate at a tapas bar 40 yards away.
"Gerry believes there was certainly something odd," the friend said. "The bedroom door was ajar when he got in and he thought: 'That's strange'.
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"He went into the room, checked that Madeleine was still asleep in bed; she was and he came out, closed the door.
"Initially he thought she might have got up and gone to the toilet or gone to get a drink or something but now he thinks that the abductor must have been in there hiding."
The friend said Gerry had pondered over the sequence of events that night for four and half painful months. "He believes the abductor came in, opened the door and didn't have time to close it (before Mr McCann arrived)," said the friend.
After Mr McCann checked the room at 9.05pm, friend Russell O'Brien offered to check the children. At 9.30pm, he listened at the door, but crucially did not go in. It was not until 10pm when Mrs McCann went back to the apartment, that Madeleine was discovered missing.
It is thought that when she went to open the door to check, a gust of wind from the open window in the room caused the door to slam behind her, sparking alarm.
The couple believe Madeleine's kidnapper came through the unlocked patio door facing the tapas restaurant and climbed out of the window at the front of the apartment.
Friend Jane Tanner said she saw a man carrying a little girl in pyjamas similar to Madeleine's at around 9.15pm. But as details of the night finally emerged, there was confusion over how the couple had spent the afternoon with Madeleine and the two-year-old twins.
A restaurant manager in Praia da Luz said the family were at the beach at around 5pm, while the couple insist Mr McCann was playing tennis as Mrs McCann gave the children supper at the Ocean Club resort, where they were staying.
Miguel Matias, who runs the beachside Paraiso restaurant said he saw Mr McCann dancing with his daughter as the family ate a meal on the terrace in the early evening.
Several days later he contacted police and handed over CCTV footage: "We would not have handed the CCTV if we were not sure. They have taken it as evidence."
A Portuguese police source confirmed the footage had been received but could not comment further because of the country's strict secrecy laws.
However, Mr and Mrs McCann insist witnesses saw them on the tennis court and at the Ocean Club restaurant with their children.
The last image of Madeleine was taken at 2.29pm of the little girl sitting by the side of the pool with her father.
A source close to the couple said: "Madeleine went to kids club in the afternoon, after the photograph was taken at the swimming pool. There are records for that, written records, and witnesses."
It is now 142 days since Madeleine disappeared and Portuguese police appear no closer to finding the little girl. Judge Pedro Daniel dos Anjos Frias has finished reading the 4,000-page dossier of evidence in the case from police, and handed the files back to prosecutors. No details of any rulings have so far been made public.
In Portugal, detectives were still waiting of the results of a toxicology report being carried out by the Forensic Science Services in Birmingham.
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another briton millionaire steps up w money for the McCanns . . . i guess wealthy Brits identify w people who are lousy parents and want to help them out so that they can feel better about themselves.