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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Topic started by: Deicide on September 08, 2007, 10:51:30 PM
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If he were American, maybe Mr. Olympia...
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nah... he's good but Toney owns him
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Toney Freeman & Dennis Wolf right now where the only "heavy Top-Pros" (over 260 lbs comp-weight) which also present an excellent X-Frame. Normally Dennis Wolf had more perspective to grow and get better and better in the future than 40 year old Freeman.
If things will go good for Dennis he maybe can be in 2 Years a real contender for the Top 3 in the Mr. Olympia.
This year i believe he can place in the Top 10 (Dennis James said that he made good improvements since his last contests).
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it's because they are tall, their weight matched their height
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Toney Freeman & Dennis Wolf right now where the only "heavy Top-Pros" (over 260 lbs comp-weight) which also present an excellent X-Frame. Normally Dennis Wolf had more perspective to grow and get better and better in the future than 40 year old Freeman.
If things will go good for Dennis he maybe can be in 2 Years a real contender for the Top 3 in the Mr. Olympia.
This year i believe he can place in the Top 10 (Dennis James said that he made good improvements since his last contests).
He's German; he will never be a top contender...
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He's German; he will never be a top contender...
I believe that`s only a negative factor for the first pro contests. As more he compete, and as better he is getting, the more he will be noticed and popular in the US and the judges will place him right on the place that he really deserves. Who knows ?, Maybe Dennis will settle down in the US when he is one of the Top 6 Pros worldwide, and so he will be present for the big american BB-mags yearround ?
But right now he has a strong team in germany behind him with much "know how" in contest preparation (Pit, Martina, Detlef, Winfried....the same people worked with Günther Schlierkamp, Roland Cziurlok, Frank Hillebrand, and many other good Bodybuilders).
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He's German; he will never be a top contender...
Only Austrians can win. ::)
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If he were American, maybe Mr. Olympia...
depends on how many cocks he will suck
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Toney Freeman & Dennis Wolf right now where the only "heavy Top-Pros" (over 260 lbs comp-weight) which also present an excellent X-Frame. Normally Dennis Wolf had more perspective to grow and get better and better in the future than 40 year old Freeman.
If things will go good for Dennis he maybe can be in 2 Years a real contender for the Top 3 in the Mr. Olympia.
This year i believe he can place in the Top 10 (Dennis James said that he made good improvements since his last contests).
Great post ! The main thing that's being brought into question in this Thread ( please see Title ) is, " How far could Dennis Wolf go ? " not " Where will he place at this year's Olympia ? ". At least that's my understanding. In my opinion, Dennis Wolf will go very far in Professional Bodybuilding. Much like Freeman said in a recent interview, " Judges want to go back to a more aesthetic look ... " meaning the " X-frame ". Dennis certainly presents that and much more ! I have yet to see a Contest pic in which Dennis IS NOT conditioned ( i.e - RIPPED TO THE FUCKING BONE ) The only criticism I have is his high Lats and Lower Back detail. You can see what I'm talking about in the picture provided below ( mind you, I didn't say it was HORRIBLE ... just not complete ... almost lacking in some way ) :
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I think Dennis can take it as far as he wants. He has a phenomenal physique. Realistically though, he'd probably have to move to the US to really get into the loop.
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I think Dennis can take it as far as he wants. He has a phenomenal physique. Realistically though, he'd probably have to move to the US to really get into the loop.
What do you mean by that ... " to really get into the loop " ? I certainly hope you don't mean he move to the US to better his chances in Winning because if that's the case perhaps you've never heard of a guy that went by the nickname, " The Shadow ".
I agree with the first half of your post, " I think Dennis can take it as far as he wants. ", however, I think it would be best that he takes himself wherever he wants GRADUALLY. If he can take small steps ( see : Toney Freeman ) rather than big ones ( as most Competitive Bodybuilders do, unfortunately ) then I can see him doing some MAJOR DAMAGE in the Pro ranks ! He's got it all ... he just needs to be patient !
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I see this cat going far! I'm a newfound fan of his. 8)
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depends on how many cocks he will suck
LOL, how funny!
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He will go far in the sport and his structure is good in the sense that he won't bloat out like other guys his height if they try to back on too much mass - I can never see Wolf having a gut. There's not a lot he can do about the high lats - but you can't say he hasn't made the best of what he's bee given - that's the mark of a champion right there. The only thing I would like to see him work on is his calf mass - other than that I see no reason why he can't win the Olympia in years to come.
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Wolf will win an olympia...if he doesn't its a crime, the guys hugh with a great frame and very good symmetry. And as far as comparing wolf and freeman, toney is not even in his league, Freeman is way overrated.
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Wolf will win an olympia...if he doesn't its a crime, the guys hugh with a great frame and very good symmetry. And as far as comparing wolf and freeman, toney is not even in his league, Freeman is way overrated.
I wouldn't say Freeman is overrated, but im confident that Wolf will surpass what Tony has been able to bring to the table. Yes Wolf has high lats, but it gives him a unique look, and even though in the back shots he may not appear to be as thick as Cutler, he is without a doubt the widest guy up there.
Obviously Wolf has some flaws, but he still already presents the type of physique bb'ing needs (at only 28), so in 5 years, provided the gut stays in check, he will (hopefully) be unbeatable. Its safe to say he will be a Mr Olympia within 2-3 years.
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Wolf's calves are crap. Am I the only one who'll acknowledge that for the huge, insurmountable flaw that it is?
TNBT
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Mr O
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Wolf's calves are crap. Am I the only one who'll acknowledge that for the huge, insurmountable flaw that it is?
TNBT
Yes they are crap, but face facts, calves are the one bodypart that matter the least. It would be great he if had big calves, but regardless it wont affect his placings.
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Yes they are crap, but face facts, calves are the one bodypart that matter the least. It would be great he if had big calves, but regardless it wont affect his placings.
You have great genetics AND great calves.
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You have great genetics AND great calves.
Yep, bigger than Wolf's already :o
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Yep, bigger than Wolf's already :o
You are greater than Wolf; you are a Dire Wolf!
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He is outstanding....but, for the olympia...I am afraid calves and back will disallow him from ever taking the crown.
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Yes they are crap, but face facts, calves are the one bodypart that matter the least. It would be great he if had big calves, but regardless it wont affect his placings.
Both Arnold and Ronnie had small calves (though both improved them tremendously). Calves seem like a bodypart that can be forgiven on some level, since it's genetically all or nothing.
Back is another matter, but Wolf's waistline makes that back look awfully wide, if not thick.
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I hear what you say, Frog, about calves being genetically have or don't-have. Still, disregarding a shite body part and awarding the greatest prize in BB on the strength of everything else, is a dodgy road to go down.
By the same token, can you say Arnold's arms aren't such a great achievement, given that genetics allowed them to get so big and peaked-out, therefore he shouldn't have won so many Olympias due to having those and a huge chest?
I've heard it said that Lee Haney sometimes did perfunctory workouts, confident that his body would respond to a token few sets.
Can we take back his Sandows, citing that he won them too easily?
Ya see what I mean?
Very few folks have great-everything, but Dennis Wolf's calves are the most proportionally poor I've seen on a high-profile BBer since Bill Grant.
It takes away too much from the entire package.
TNBT
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Mr O
Agree.
Hes the best thing since Arnold. 8)
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Yes they are crap, but face facts, calves are the one bodypart that matter the least. It would be great he if had big calves, but regardless it wont affect his placings.
How the hell do ya justify that statement? Far less call it a fact?
I can't think of a muscle group that matters more, in that it's glaringly obvious if someone doesn't have 'em.
If Dennis Wolf does go on to take the O, might as well publish an article in Flex entitled: IFBB Exclusive! Attention all Bodybuilders: No Need to Train Calves Anymore!!!
Then after that, which is the next muscle group we needn't bother with?
It's a greasy pole.
TNBT
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You have great genetics AND great calves.
Jeez! ::)
TNBT
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If he were American, maybe Mr. Olympia...
Dorian and Samir were not American. Wolf is going to be Mr. O, mulitple times. With one year off, he could pull the upset if Jay is not 100%
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How the hell do ya justify that statement? Far less call it a fact?
I can't think of a muscle group that matters more, in that it's glaringly obvious if someone doesn't have 'em.
If Dennis Wolf does go on to take the O, might as well publish an article in Flex entitled: IFBB Exclusive! Attention all Bodybuilders: No Need to Train Calves Anymore!!!
Then after that, which is the next muscle group we needn't bother with?
It's a greasy pole.
TNBT
Don't forget that he's been training all year and he knows his calves are a weak point. Dennis won't ignore that and you can bet you'll see some improved calves next time we see him. The guy trains like a deamon and he hasn't reached his peak yet, only good things to come from him.
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Don't forget that he's been training all year and he knows his calves are a weak point. Dennis won't ignore that and you can bet you'll see some improved calves next time we see him. The guy trains like a deamon and he hasn't reached his peak yet, only good things to come from him.
If his health holds up...if his health holds up...
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Very true =)
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Very true =)
Just imagine how massive he will look even with just ten more pounds of quality muscle in the right places....or if his back got wider! Exciting stuff.
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If his health holds up...if his health holds up...
quite true
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Wolf is GOD ;D
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he will be MR O one day, but not for a couple of years...
he has got some great muscle structure but he does need to bring a couple of things up eg calves lower backa and lower lats... but saying that i wish i looked like him
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he will be MR O one day, but not for a couple of years...
he has got some great muscle structure but he does need to bring a couple of things up eg calves lower backa and lower lats... but saying that i wish i looked like him
I think we'll see improvements in those areas this year =)
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With 15-20 lbs muscle ripped to shreds with the waist in check...Mr. Olympia.
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he will be MR O one day, but not for a couple of years...
he has got some great muscle structure but he does need to bring a couple of things up eg calves lower backa and lower lats... but saying that i wish i looked like him
you hit the nail on the head his calves and lower back needs to come up but his figure and structure is ridiculous and from the front hes id say just about matcjed with anyone except for possbily jay when jay is 100% but as someone else stated he still hasnt peaked yet but i do think he will run shit for a couple years but not quite yet....i am a huge fan though..the guy is just absolutely shredded everywhere
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He'll be a perennial top 4 olympia guy.
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He's German; he will never be a top contender...
So what?
Sergio, Arnold, Franco, Samir, and Dorian were all non americans and won. 5 out of the 11 Mr. O's were not american
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Dennis can and will go as far as he wants, Just keep in mind this year milos magic wand is hanging on the shelf......
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Dennis can and will go as far as he wants, Just keep in mind this year milos magic wand is hanging on the shelf......
Meaning? ???
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Meaning? ???
i think he measn that if he fucks up dennis wolf, then his reputation is ruined, but if wolf wins the mr.o, or improves greatly, then he bolsters his image of being a contest prep magician.
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i think he measn that if he fucks up dennis wolf, then his reputation is ruined, but if wolf wins the mr.o, or improves greatly, then he bolsters his image of being a contest prep magician.
Actually no thats not what I mean Milos no doubt would make him Mr O but he is doing other things now
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Yea, Wolf signed with Chad.
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Dennis Wolfe is going to be Mr. O for a while. He is not yet 30 yrs old. IMO, he is going to get 6-7 Olympia's.