Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TroubleReady39 on September 12, 2007, 02:24:23 PM
-
I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it. I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so. I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.
I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s. About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.
My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk? I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective. Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%? For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk? Thanks!
-
How much shit are you going to be on. If you're not, all you're going to do is get fat and end up like dreamer. If you're natural. 6 pounds in 6 months would be respectable. Are you ever going to compete, if not, why ever bulk?
-
8 pack of abs shows
(http://www.esreality.com/files/placeimages/2007/54983-orly.JPG)
-
How much shit are you going to be on. If you're not, all you're going to do is get fat and end up like dreamer. If you're natural. 6 pounds in 6 months would be respectable. Are you ever going to compete, if not, why ever bulk?
i'm natural. I'd settle for 15 pounds. I want to bulk up because i'm only 170 pounds and i'd like to add some muscle.
-
25lbs in 6 months.....natural?
id say 20 of it will be fat....
and if youre 12-15% bodyfat and can see an 8 pack...its because youve painted in on with a sharpie...
not hatin' or picking on you, but my suggestion would be continue to try to "bulk", but do not rush it.
-
If nothing else you clone a new plasmid with only the gene and don't add the ARM.
-
i'm natural. I'd settle for 15 pounds. I want to bulk up because i'm only 170 pounds and i'd like to add some muscle.
Why do you feel the need to bulk? Try eating larger quantities of cleaner foods and train basic and heavy.
-
bulking for a natural that will never compete is a total waste of time..and I would argue that if you are competing chances are you are "hormonized"
you can make gains while staying lean..
this fucker is already 15% BF and wants to bulk...lol..classic
-
I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it. I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so. I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.
I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s. About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.
My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk? I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective. Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%? For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk? Thanks!
It's too late. He's done for.
-
you can make gains while staying lean..
how lean? what %? that's what i'm getting at
-
BB.com blows and is only good for the supplement section. Read this before you bulk.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956
-
ha ahhahahahahahahahahahaha haha 8 pack my or should I say your fat ass ::)
-
BB.com blows and is only good for the supplement section. Read this before you bulk.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956
thanks. i just want to have a daily surplus of 500-1000 cal per day with clean foods. not get fat like dreamer.
-
I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it. I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so. I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.
I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s. About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.
My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk? I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective. Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%? For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk? Thanks!
Unless your using do not bulk, if your abs and serratus are showing you would be 10% or lower.
If you bulk chances are when your finished and diet down you will be the same weight as when you started.170 pounds at 5,9 with abs showing is respectable be happy with that, youre in your early 20s you will put on weight naturally.
If you want to hit 200 or over visit the steroid page and learn about a simple stack.
Good Luck do not put on Fat.
-
how lean? what %? that's what i'm getting at
all you have to do is take 300mg's of DNP everyday and pop dbol tabs. THis is the best for health
-
I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it. I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so. I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.
I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s. About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.
My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk? I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective. Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%? For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk? Thanks!
If you are in the 12-15% range you are bulked. If you think a pro is over that in the offseason you're wrong. They may look it, but it's more water weight from the High levels of Test.
Do you plan on using drugs? If not you may want to try staying the same weight and tightening it up to about 7%. If you are going to use drugs you may want to try diet down and deplete as much as possible in order to get your body to respond better to food, supplements, drugs etc.....
-
If you are in the 12-15% range you are bulked. If you think a pro is over that in the offseason you're wrong. They may look it, but it's more water weight from the High levels of Test.
Do you plan on using drugs? If not you may want to try staying the same weight and tightening it up to about 7%. If you are going to use drugs you may want to try diet down and deplete as much as possible in order to get your body to respond better to food, supplements, drugs etc.....
15% is as fat as I should get?
-
place a monkey testicle in a graped out avocado and then place the avocado in your anus. you will grow like weed in jamaica.
-
so this goes back to my original question -
Should I diet down to 7%, then make sure to stay UNDER 15% as I try to add muscle?
-
A big question is what body type you have. This will determine how likely you are to put on body fat or not.
-
so this goes back to my original question -
Should I diet down to 7%, then make sure to stay UNDER 15% as I try to add muscle?
everyone here would like to see how the fat is distributed on your body to allow for an 8 pack at 15% BF.
you have to post a pic
-
TroubleReady39, you should ask this guy to do your prep, he will turn you into a total BEAST!!!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=167702.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=167702.0)
-
you mean 20-25 %.... ::)
-
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
-
15 % is already pretty fat, you should never exeed that
diet down dude, then bulk
but I don't recommend "bulking" for naturals
-
15 % is already pretty fat, you should never exeed that
diet down dude, then bulk
but I don't recommend "bulking" for naturals
what is your height/weight/ bf% in offseason, stav?
-
what is your height/weight/ bf% in offseason, stav?
I am 5'10 and a half maybe
around 220-225 right now maybe 12 % bf max
-
Here is the question.............
Are you natural?
-
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
POST YOUR PICS!!
haha..I think that he got scared off..he won't address the questions regarding his claim of being 15% BF and still having an 8 pack.
-
Don't bulk...aim for a steady 10-12 % BF range and eat a bit more..oh yeah, train hard. That's it and The T-nation article is a good one, read it.
-
BB.com blows and is only good for the supplement section. Read this before you bulk.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956
wow..great article..
hopefully all of the "perma bulkers" will take note
on a side note: his girlfriend looks much better in the before pics
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/06-154-training/image021.jpg)
-
haha..I think that he got scared off..he won't address the questions regarding his claim of being 15% BF and still having an 8 pack.
its probably better for his mental well-being anyway ;D
you and I both know anyone claiming to be 15% is more like 25%+
most people would be surprised to see how ripped 10% looks
-
as a lifetime natty I'll weigh in on this. Bulking while natural is a waste of time, if you're really low enough in BF that you can see an "8-pack" then that's a good thing. Aceto wrote that at about 10% BF you're in the best position for BB and I agree with this. keep you're BF low, don't worry about "bulking", just up you're calories a little and go by the mirror instead of the scale.
-
I've been reading about bulking, and I want to do it. I want to put on 25 pounds over 6 months or so. I've been reading the diets at bbing.com and I am learning a lot.
I'm currently 170 pounds at 5'9, in my early 20s. About 12 to 15% bodyfat - 8 pack of abs shows, serratus shows, but I'm certainly not diced.
My question is - should I diet down 5 or 10 pounds of fat, THEN start the bulk? I've read that I'll get more cuts which makes the bulk more effective. Or, do I just start now, and try to avoid going over 20%? For that matter, what is the highest % I should allow myself to hit, while on a bulk? Thanks!
I would. Then your mass will be quality mass vs. the usual bloated water retained look.
-
I'm natural and my goal forever has been to hit 200.. I decided to bulk and didn't want to get fat so all it ate was clean diet type food, just a shit ton of it... i had to force myself to eat so much but i hit 201 for about three days lol... soon as i ate normal again i went back to 195-197.. Shit was miserable eating so much!
-
I'm natural and my goal forever has been to hit 200.. I decided to bulk and didn't want to get fat so all it ate was clean diet type food, just a shit ton of it... i had to force myself to eat so much but i hit 201 for about three days lol... soon as i ate normal again i went back to 195-197.. Shit was miserable eating so much!
was it muscle or fat that you gained?
-
what is this website's princess complex and staying under 10% bf or eating clean year round? whats that about? ::)
-
15% is already a bit too high. You may want to have a trainer at your gym actually check your bodyfat percentage for you so you have a place to start from. I would say that I wouldn't worry about cutting down specifically in terms of trying to lose weight. If you are able to add 6-10 pounds of lean weight within the next 6 months, that by itself will bring your bodyfat percentage down a couple of percent. 9-10% is going to have you looking pretty ripped and is not too hard to stay at if you're even a little disciplined, anything much lower will be tough to maintain for a long period of time.
-
what is this website's princess complex and staying under 10% bf or eating clean year round? whats that about? ::)
trying to make yourself feel better fattyboy?
no one said you should stay under 10% bf all year around, there is no point in bulking up and being over 15% fat or so..even that is a bit too high. specially for a natural avoiding too much dieting is a good thing..and if you can keep your bodyfat at 12-13% year around (or 10-13) thats a good thing. also staying pretty lean doesnt mean you have to eat "clean" all the time. it just means you dont have to have a caloric surplus that is larger than 500 calories more than you daily caloric need inorder to gain muscle.
too many people go on insane bulks just to see the scale go up and be able to gorge themselves..but most of the weight gain will be fat. they lack the patience and they dont realize as a natural you wont be gaining 30lbs of muscle year after year..which leads to unreasonable expectations...and in the end walking around fat year around and never seeing the muscles below all that fat. as a natural you wont be gaining much more than 3-6lbs per year after the first year or so (if you trained somewhat correctly with adequate nutrition). being fat wont change that fact.
at the same time you should not be obsessed with food (like waddy is for example) inorder to stay lean, as it in reality doesnt have to be that much of an effort to stay relatively lean if you use common sense and have a bit of knowledge.
edit: just read the t-nation article...VERY good article ( i been saying point for point the same things to people who have asked me about "bulking" that he writes about in the article). a must read for all you fatties.