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SPOILER ALERT ;)
From VH yahoo list...SPOLIERS NO I DIDNT SEE THIS, THIS IS OFF YAHOO LIST and i got it off Vhlinks.
On Saturday night a friend of mine got me in to see a Van Halen
rehearsal in Los Angeles. (I've been sworn to secrecy on certain
aspects of this story, including location. Someone else may fill in
the details, but it won't be me.)
Photos at: tinyurl.com/ 2yt2sg
We arrived to an empty arena (except for the VH staff) containing
VH's full stage setup. No one from the band had arrived yet.
The stage has a runway which snakes out into the audience in a giant
"S" shape, which mirrors the lighting rig above it. The "S"
continues behind and above the stage so a band member can walk to the
very top and be standing above Ed's rig. There's a giant video
screen the width of the entire stage, but neither the screen nor the
stage lights were tested tonight; only the house lights were used.
(It didn't matter in the slightest.)
We arrived about an hour before the band while the crew fine-tuned
the equipment. Drums were tested, guitars tuned, and pink noise
blasted through the P.A. The general mood of everyone seemed very
high with lots of smiles and friendly faces. Many people nodded to
us and said, "hello."
Eddie was the first to arrive, and very shortly after that, Wolfgang
and Alex. Valerie was with Wolf as were about five of his friends
from school, I'm guessing. (They all looked the same age.) Alex and
Ed spent about 15 minutes on stage noodling while Wolfie was showing
his friends the venue. The three of them then met on stage and Eddie
said into the P.A., "We're not opening with it, but let's play "I'm
The One" just to warm up. And that they did. A funny moment
occurred when Ed screwed up the bit right before they usually go
acapella. He spoke into the mic, "Did I mess that up?" Wolf
confirmed, "Yeah, you were late." Both were smiling.
After "I'm The One", there was a bit more noodling and then some
down time as people waited for Dave. I'm not sure if he was running
late or if that's just how the schedule was.
When Dave did show up, right from the start, he was all smiles. He
was dressed in tight, flared out leather pants and a black/striped
dress shirt.
The rest of the account is going to contain, for lack of a better
word, "spoilers" of the show, including the set list, all though not
in order. If you don't want to know, fair warning.
Dave addressed the crowd and treated us as if we were guests in his
arena sized house. He thanked us for coming and talked about how
excited he was to be here and what a "privilege and honor" it was to
play with his "brutha's from another mutha." (And yes, that's a
quote.) He then went on to great lengths to explain what we would be
seeing tonight: that it was a rehearsal where they would be stopping
and starting, testing things out, etc. (And he did this all very
eloquently with many one-liners, as only Dave does.) Right before
the band began, he explained, "Okay as soon as you hear the first
note, that's when the curtain comes up." He did that throughout the
show; stopping to tell us what we would be seeing if this were the
actual concert. The constant commentary and casual asides reminded
me of that story I've heard where at a concert he wanted to turn the
P.A. around so that "everyone could be backstage." That's how this
show felt. As if we were being let it on the secret.
The show started with "You Really Got Me." Dave was standing on the
high part of the "S" stage above Alex waving a giant Red flag as the
show began. Then he threw the flag down, and for the first time in
over 22 years, David Lee Roth sang on stage with Eddie Van Halen.
I'd say there were only about 40-50 guests there that night who were
lucky enough to get in. Most of us sat in the "5-star" section
inside the loop of the "S" runway, but there wasn't even enough of us
to fill it up. And there was a silly L.A.attitude amongst the crowd
of" Oh-I'm-so-hip- I-don't-need- to-sit-in- the-front- row" thing going
on, as if this event was an every day occurrence. (After the first
song, I couldn't stay away, and moved from the 5th row to right up
front, just off center towards Ed's side.) The stage setup has at
least 8 speakers just for the people in the first few rows, so you
don't have to worry about hearing only the echoey remnants of the
main P.A. You'll get the full mix nice and loud. But Holy God,
bring earplugs.
Wolfgang did a fine job, even providing decent sounding backup
vocals. I have absolutely nothing bad to say about him, but I'd be
lying if I didn't say that Michael Anthony was missed. While Wolf
competently filled the position, he doesn't have the same sound,
either in his playing or in his voice, as Michael. It's such a shame
that silly personal conflicts can't be resolved so that people can
finally see the classic lineup again. I do have to say though, it's
obvious how much Ed loves playing with Wolfgang. He would be all
smiles when he walked over to Wolfie and after one song, stepped up
to the P.A. and said, "Great job, Wolf. Great."
Over the next hour and a half or so the band played classic after
classic that VH haven't done in years. The Sammy Hagar era is dead
now, as far as I can tell. (All though when warming up, Eddie ran
the VH-stripped drill across his guitar as if he was was starting
"Poundcake", but no more than that.) I was surprised by some of the
gems they brought out. I'll post the songs I remember at the end of
the article, but the order will be completely wrong except for the
first song and the encore.
The great thrill of the show was seeing Dave and Ed interact. If
there's any animosity between them, it didn't show at all. Both were
constantly smiling, and Dave often did the schtick where he holds his
mic to Ed's guitar during a solo while he looks at the crowd, open
mouthed in astonishment.
That's not to say that Dave didn't get pissed, however. He was
standing out by the far tail of the "S" runway when, in the middle of
a song, he yelled at the soundboard crew with intense anger, "TURN
THE FUCKING VOCALS UP! Don't make me ask you again!" I turned to Ed
to see his reaction, thinking he would be pissed at Dave's behavior,
but incredibly, Ed just smiled even wider. As Dave walked past him
returning to the stage, they did a mini-hi-five, low and behind each
other's back. I don't know what it meant. I'm guessing it's one of
those things that only makes sense to two people who have known each
other for decades.
I never got to see Dave sing with Van Halen live. I got into the
band in 1984 when I was 12 and didn't see them until the OU812
tour. I've seen Dave solo multiple times, but am always wonderfully
caught off guard by his stage antics. He really is the clown prince
of rock 'n' roll, and I say that with as much affection as I can.
There's not a moment that goes by where he's not trying to entertain
you, whether it be with silly facial expressions, dance moves, jokes,
props or stories. He is the former 5 year old kid who ran up to
every new adult and wanted to show them everything he owned and all
the things he could do and wouldn't stop talking until his parents
told him it was bed time. And that attitude has never quite gone away.
Thinking about the whole experience, I can't help but smile. I was
going to write a few more details about the show, (like the brilliant
way Dave introduces "Somebody Get Me A Doctor" or the intensity from
Dave that makes "Mean Street" one of the great live VH songs) but I
think it's probably better to let you all discover that for yourself.
Song list (again, not in order):
******Song list spoiler space*******
YOU REALLY GOT ME
ROMEO DELIGHT
SOMEBODY GET ME A DOCTOR
I'M THE ONE
MEAN STREET
UNCHAINED
PRETTY WOMAN (No "Intruder.")
DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY
ICE CREAM MAN
BEAUTIFUL GIRLS
GUITAR SOLO - NOT the solo of the 2004 tour. Includes everything you
want to hear: Eruption, Cathedreal, etc.
SO THIS IS LOVE?
AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK....
EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!
SECRETS
I'LL WAIT
RUNNIN' WITH THE DEVIL
LITTLE GUITARS
JAMIE'S CRYIN'
ATOMIC PUNK
FEEL YOUR LOVE TONIGHT
LITTLE DREAMER
ON FIRE
PANAMA
HOT FOR TEACHER
AIN'T TALKIN' 'ABOUT LOVE
ENCORE:
1984
JUMP
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some of those have not been played in decades.if this is really gonna go off ,they have to be solid,the sound check said they were loose and really tearing some of the stuff off good,dave can scat and shout his way maybe it will be good,i pray eddie can reclaim his glory days,nowadays it's not the guitar god century anyway.just have to play close to what there age indicates.then there's the little boy,playing grown up.tickets are quite pricey.
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nothing shocking to me, I'm not fired up for this one bit. Ed and Al have run this band into the ground and this is just the icing on the cake. No new music in years....they've given the fans nothing and now a cash grab tour? I know a chick at work who agreed to buy tickets before she found out they were 150 bucks ???
it's funny to see ed and al do exactly what thye said they would not do just a few years ago.
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nothing shocking to me, I'm not fired up for this one bit. Ed and Al have run this band into the ground and this is just the icing on the cake. No new music in years....they've given the fans nothing and now a cash grab tour? I know a chick at work who agreed to buy tickets before she found out they were 150 bucks ???
it's funny to see ed and al do exactly what thye said they would not do just a few years ago.
i'm suprised at a vh afficianado as yourself not touching this?
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i'm suprised at a vh afficianado as yourself not touching this?
it's not van halen. Ed and Al destroyed this band and everything it was about years ago. This is just the icing on thier cake. I hope they make a ton of $$$ off this tour and I hope when they look back at how much potential these guys had at so many points over the last 11 and how they blew it that they can look in the mirror.
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it's not van halen. Ed and Al destroyed this band and everything it was about years ago. This is just the icing on thier cake. I hope they make a ton of $$$ off this tour and I hope when they look back at how much potential these guys had at so many points over the last 11 and how they blew it that they can look in the mirror.
I SEE YOUR POINT .you look at it at a creative standpoint so yes since 96,a movie soundtrack song,2 greatest hits reissues,and 5 new songs 2 roth 3 hagar and probably 2 out of 5 really decent .oh i forgot vh3 ,i have no interest at all in that one at all never listened to it,and i have every vh cd ,except imports.you probably give them some credit for it cause they actually recorded full cd....
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I SEE YOUR POINT .you look at it at a creative standpoint so yes since 96,a movie soundtrack song,2 greatest hits reissues,and 5 new songs 2 roth 3 hagar and probably 2 out of 5 really decent .oh i forgot vh3 ,i have no interest at all in that one at all never listened to it,and i have every vh cd ,except imports.you probably give them some credit for it cause they actually recorded full cd....
As time goes on, I'm harder and harder on III for the simple fact that I don't believe Al had any real input on it-it's a fact that it's a drum machine on the song "Once" and there is alot of speculation that it's actually Eddie playing drums on most of the other tracks. Mike has come out to say he only played on 2 or 3 songs on that disk-I think Fire in the Hole and maybe Ballot or the Bullet, not sure.
There are some parts that are great but they're few and far between and usually are part of a solo or something. Ed was just out of hand on it, he wrote all the music, wrote lyrics, played bass, guitar, drums keyboards, sang lead, sang 90% of the backing vocals, produced it-along with Mike Post ::), mixed it and engineered it...c'mon now. It ain't van halen and it's a long way away.
The songs in 04 are a mess but Sammy came out and said that Ed was just out of hand while they worked on that stuff, just a total dick. Sam said he spent about 2 hours total in the studio cause he didn't want to be there when Ed was there-I don't blame him.
VH ceased to exist the day Ed Lefler died, that just seemed to spin Eddie out of control.
I do think Dave is gonna come out of this looking really good.
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As time goes on, I'm harder and harder on III for the simple fact that I don't believe Al had any real input on it-it's a fact that it's a drum machine on the song "Once" and there is alot of speculation that it's actually Eddie playing drums on most of the other tracks. Mike has come out to say he only played on 2 or 3 songs on that disk-I think Fire in the Hole and maybe Ballot or the Bullet, not sure.
There are some parts that are great but they're few and far between and usually are part of a solo or something. Ed was just out of hand on it, he wrote all the music, wrote lyrics, played bass, guitar, drums keyboards, sang lead, sang 90% of the backing vocals, produced it-along with Mike Post ::), mixed it and engineered it...c'mon now. It ain't van halen and it's a long way away.
The songs in 04 are a mess but Sammy came out and said that Ed was just out of hand while they worked on that stuff, just a total dick. Sam said he spent about 2 hours total in the studio cause he didn't want to be there when Ed was there-I don't blame him.
VH ceased to exist the day Ed Lefler died, that just seemed to spin Eddie out of control.
I do think Dave is gonna come out of this looking really good.
cause he see's the cash cow ahead,and probably says to himself "please do not open mouth other than to sing jump"
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nothing shocking to me, I'm not fired up for this one bit. Ed and Al have run this band into the ground and this is just the icing on the cake. No new music in years....they've given the fans nothing and now a cash grab tour? I know a chick at work who agreed to buy tickets before she found out they were 150 bucks ???
it's funny to see ed and al do exactly what thye said they would not do just a few years ago.
This tour won't be the success that is hoped for. Way too little, way too late.
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cause he see's the cash cow ahead,and probably says to himself "please do not open mouth other than to sing jump"
Before DLR got that radio gig wasn't he working a 9 to 5 job of some sort?
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Before DLR got that radio gig wasn't he working a 9 to 5 job of some sort?
Dave worked as an EMT...why I don't really know. He could make decent $$$ doing the whole VH cover band deal he's been doing for years...plus he still gets royalties so I'm sure he makes decent money. the thing is he's practiaclly been begging for this tour for years now, if people thing they're gonna see "the toastmaster general" they're wrong....I doubt dave will really say much of anything. maybe some of his cathc phrases like "look at all the people here tonight" and stuff like that....
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Won't even post the rehearsal clip from YouTube because you've all seen it already...
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nothing shocking to me, I'm not fired up for this one bit. Ed and Al have run this band into the ground and this is just the icing on the cake. No new music in years....they've given the fans nothing and now a cash grab tour? I know a chick at work who agreed to buy tickets before she found out they were 150 bucks ???
it's funny to see ed and al do exactly what thye said they would not do just a few years ago.
No offense natural al, but I think you and your countrymen have over the years been spoilt with your access to VH... I would pay (in Australia) triple in US dollars to see this VH line up. VH have only been in Australia once in 30 years and they were fronted by Gary Cherone. :-\
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No offense natural al, but I think you and your countrymen have over the years been spoilt with your access to VH... I would pay (in Australia) triple in US dollars to see this VH line up. VH have only been in Australia once in 30 years and they were fronted by Gary Cherone. :-\
they were supposed to go there in 95 but didn't. they were also supposed to do it in 04 but Ed was too fucked up and they cut things short. Sammy's been there a couple of times I think since he left.
sorry dude. Go buy some boots...seriously ;D
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they were supposed to go there in 95 but didn't. they were also supposed to do it in 04 but Ed was too fucked up and they cut things short. Sammy's been there a couple of times I think since he left.
sorry dude. Go buy some boots...seriously ;D
well nat al i read read review of vh opening show got very solid review,they said eddie has rediscovered his mantle,was weaving and tapping and looping chords as reviewer saw it as if it was 84 again,and dlr got props for trademark howls and singing full words an all,props to the 2 backround as well wolfoe and alex,he said dlr and eddie shared a few if not to keep naysayers at bay a few "genuine'gestures,but money will do that to ya.the set list was insane and that might get me up to see this,romeo delight,on fire,jamies cryin....
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well nat al i read read review of vh opening show got very solid review,they said eddie has rediscovered his mantle,was weaving and tapping and looping chords as reviewer saw it as if it was 84 again,and dlr got props for trademark howls and singing full words an all,props to the 2 backround as well wolfoe and alex,he said dlr and eddie shared a few if not to keep naysayers at bay a few "genuine'gestures,but money will do that to ya.the set list was insane and that might get me up to see this,romeo delight,on fire,jamies cryin....
when ed is sober and "on" he's the best on the planet. Dave is competent enough to pull it off...no suprises there.
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when ed is sober and "on" he's the best on the planet. Dave is competent enough to pull it off...no suprises there.
see your coming around again,i know u love vh and are ticked at their current legacy.this is a must see show.
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Have they announced any further tour plans? I saw that pre-tour press stuff where EVH said that this is a band now and they will build on this.
Hope they come to Europe as well. If that happens I'd say the tickets will be around 70€/90€
Hope ( I bet ) they make an DVD out of it anyway!
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see your coming around again,i know u love vh and are ticked at their current legacy.this is a must see show.
I don't think I'm going, either way. I just can't stomach the shit they've done to "van halen" over the last decade. they've just ruined it for me, I have no interest in seeing the show. Dave will do fine, I dont' have any real ill will towards him like I did in the past. I just can't stand Eddie these days, he screwed Mike, he screwed Sammy, he doesn't care about the fans, he could give 2 shits. He can kiss my ass.
Have they announced any further tour plans? I saw that pre-tour press stuff where EVH said that this is a band now and they will build on this.
Hope they come to Europe as well. If that happens I'd say the tickets will be around 70€/90€
Hope ( I bet ) they make an DVD out of it anyway!
there is a DVD in the works from what I understand.
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Nice Youtube clip in www.vanhalen.com