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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Livewire on September 15, 2007, 05:22:18 AM
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/09/bodybuilding-legend-frank-zane.html
Shawn Ray got robbed twice. Zane, Dickerson, and Columbo did it - but today, none of them - including Zane - would crack top 3 at an Olympia again. Zane has perfect lines here but he wouldn't make top 10 looking like this.
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That routine was pretty awesome. A Frank Zane upsized 15% with all the same proportions would look insane.
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Thats old news last name who was under 200 was Samir in 1983
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That routine was pretty awesome. A Frank Zane upsized 15% with all the same proportions would look insane.
In today's world, the only way zane could have upsized 15% - or 30 pounds - would be gh, insulin, and the like. He'd like just like all the other blocky, small guys.
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No man under 240 will ever win the Olympia again. And even that's stretching it.
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im waiting for the time when no man under 300 pounds will ever win the olympia 8)
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no man under 260 has won it in the last 10 years
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Ronnie was 245 in 2002 right?
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your forgetting sevestes, he will break the cieling.
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Only if they bring back back weight classes and the overall comparisons are fairly judged and just not on size.
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Only if they bring back back weight classes and the overall comparisons are fairly judged and just not on size.
Hi Silvio!
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Ronnie was around 250-260 when he first won it
some people predict that the physiques will get smaller in the future, since no one will ever be bigger than Ronnie Coleman
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Ronnie was around 250-260 when he first won it
some people predict that the physiques will get smaller in the future, since no one will ever be bigger than Ronnie Coleman
Ronnie in 1998 was 249 pounds , Dorian was 242 pounds !
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samir was under 200? looked slightly heavier
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Ronnie in 1998 was 249 pounds , Dorian was 242 pounds !
yeah, that makes sense. they always claim to be heavier than they really are, so it can get confusing.
I've heard claims of Dorian's weight being 260-270, but at his height, size, and condition 242 sounds more realistic
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You guys remember when Kovacs was supposed to compete at 395 or some ridiculous weight like thaT?!
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Request a separate division from the IFBB - Tall and short or classes - but you have to request it
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You guys remember when Kovacs was supposed to compete at 395 or some ridiculous weight like thaT?!
garbage
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/09/bodybuilding-legend-frank-zane.html
Shawn Ray got robbed twice. Zane, Dickerson, and Columbo did it - but today, none of them - including Zane - would crack top 3 at an Olympia again. Zane has perfect lines here but he wouldn't make top 10 looking like this.
I don't think Shawn Ray competed <200lb. Wasn't he 205-210?
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ray would win the o now days if looked like mid 90s at 200-210lb,,frank zane would win the o now days if competed at 200lb,,but thats about it,,you are talking here about guys that has symetry and condition out of this world,only reason ray didnt win is dorian which is a diff leage comparing to current champ
if ron came 100% on no one would win beside ron
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ray would win the o now days if looked like mid 90s at 200-210lb,,frank zane would win the o now days if competed at 200lb,,but thats about it,,you are talking here about guys that has symetry and condition out of this world,only reason ray didnt win is dorian which is a diff leage comparing to current champ
if ron came 100% on no one would win beside ron
Do you think Ron is the best ever?
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Do you think Ron is the best ever?
I think it's pretty much fact at this point.
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ray would win the o now days if looked like mid 90s at 200-210lb,,frank zane would win the o now days if competed at 200lb,,but thats about it,,you are talking here about guys that has symetry and condition out of this world,only reason ray didnt win is dorian which is a diff leage comparing to current champ
if ron came 100% on no one would win beside ron
Previously you said Labrada was better than shawn; so y wont Labrada win an O??
You always conflict with yourself with time,, that shows what kind of insecure fake you are
Not a meltdown but insulting people’s intelligence and taking people for granted is a act of desperation
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/09/bodybuilding-legend-frank-zane.html
Shawn Ray got robbed twice. Zane, Dickerson, and Columbo did it - but today, none of them - including Zane - would crack top 3 at an Olympia again. Zane has perfect lines here but he wouldn't make top 10 looking like this.
Huge Jackman was 200lb in X-men, practically every guy on the street weighs this these days. Zane was great but no-one would tolerate a Mr O smaller than most highschool guys who lift in this day and age when over 1 million American teenagers are juiced.
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Yeah 200lbs and shredded is fairly big, but come on, we're talking about the Olympia here. The O is the best of the best, and in turn, also the biggest of the big. No Olympia winner has been under 200lbs for like 20+ years. So this isn't much of a revelation really.
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Huge Jackman was 200lb in X-men, practically every guy on the street weighs this these days. Zane was great but no-one would tolerate a Mr O smaller than most highschool guys who lift in this day and age when over 1 million American teenagers are juiced.
All those guys are nowhere near Frank Zane's condition and would get raped onstage.
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All those guys are nowhere near Frank Zane's condition and would get raped onstage.
Yeah, I was about to say, 200 pounds cut is diff than 200 pounds of flab.
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i heard that next year there will be an under 202lbs weight class for every mens IFBB show
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/09/bodybuilding-legend-frank-zane.html
Shawn Ray got robbed twice. Zane, Dickerson, and Columbo did it - but today, none of them - including Zane - would crack top 3 at an Olympia again. Zane has perfect lines here but he wouldn't make top 10 looking like this.
Times have changed. The difference is back then you had big guys who were ripped at 225lbs tops. Now you have guys clocking in at 280lbs ripped. Different times.
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Last time I was under 200 was in 87 when I won the Nationals :-\
I competed between 206 and 215lbs my entire Pro Career.
Those extra pounds made all the difference by comparision to 200lbs. ;D
It's all an Illusion anyway, weight never factored into my training or my appearance as a Pro so I never really cared about weight classes :-\
S. Ray
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I would say the only real chance for the olympia at under 200 would be
Ronny Rockell i think under 200
David Henry
Silvio Samule
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Previously you said Labrada was better than shawn; so y wont Labrada win an O??
You always conflict with yourself with time,, that shows what kind of insecure fake you are
Not a meltdown but insulting people’s intelligence and taking people for granted is a act of desperation
you better go back to my 1000 posts on getbig.com and read them again because you seem to forgot your brain somewhere,,
labrada was tooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo short to win olympia,,it wasnt the way he looked ,,he indeed was and still is 10 top bodybuilders in the bodybuilding history,,but 5'6 5'7 5'9 is not 5''5 or under,,5'5 or under can not and will not win an olympia due to height,,5'6-5'7 is very short and only ray could pull it,,over 5'8 preferably 5'9 510 511 6 feet is what you want as mr o frame
now go on an order your hormones via insecure people :D
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Last time I was under 200 was in 87 when I won the Nationals :-\
I competed between 206 and 215lbs my entire Pro Career.
Those extra pounds made all the difference by comparision to 200lbs. ;D
It's all an Illusion anyway, weight never factored into my training or my appearance as a Pro so I never really cared about weight classes :-\
S. Ray
You're still here? Is it just me or did you stop posting for a while. Whatever happend to Kevin Levrone? Why'd he quit us?
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Huge Jackman was 200lb in X-men, practically every guy on the street weighs this these days. Zane was great but no-one would tolerate a Mr O smaller than most highschool guys who lift in this day and age when over 1 million American teenagers are juiced.
most highschool kids are fat now days,,especially usa kids,,the 200lb they carry on them has 20% bodyfat if not more,,they may look like frank zane bodyfat% if they dieted down to about 145lb,,condition like his they wont have because the muscle is not developed enough,,,so no hichschool kids in usa do not look like bodybuilders or fitness models because the moment they take their shirt off there is nothing under beside flab
also americans are fat and average weight for a male is indeed 180lb-190lb in usa but it has 18-20% bodyfat in it in most cases,,that is no bodybuilder
you got to be able to see top 4 abs at the least on your physiqe to be considered anything in bodybuilding,,can be flexed but top 4 gotta be there at the least,,outlines of abs gotta be there,,no abs at all = too fat even if you have big toned arms
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It's all an Illusion anyway, weight never factored into my training or my appearance as a Pro so I never really cared about weight classes :-\
S. Ray
That's a good point. I suppose if a pro today were 5'1" (hi, Lee!!) he could hit the under-200 mark and still look as big as the other guys on stage, proportionate-wise anyway.
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Last time I was under 200 was in 87 when I won the Nationals :-\
I competed between 206 and 215lbs my entire Pro Career.
Those extra pounds made all the difference by comparision to 200lbs. ;D
It's all an Illusion anyway, weight never factored into my training or my appearance as a Pro so I never really cared about weight classes :-\
S. Ray
You were around 191 when you won the Nationals, right?
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I think part of the issue with going back to height or weight classes for the powers that be - and to be honest I'm all for it in the hopes that it would curb some of the more abuseful things these guys do with the drugs/injections - is that if you indeed have a ripped smaller man with a tiny waist and good proportion and he loses the overall to a ripped larger man with bloated waist and weak (comparative) proportion, that would only create greater controversy and heartache for the judging panel and the federation. In other words, it would have the potential to create more dissent about judging and standards and what-not and further polarize the sport. Having separate contests based on height/weight is not a bad idea and it's obviously being experimented with, but I can't say it improves things over a unified contest, making that my third choice.
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When I competed in the 1987 Nationals, I weighed in at 197 1/4lbs.
I hit the stage around 202lbs ;D
Ohhh...... to be 20 years younger again, and lighter ;D
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Ohhh...... to be 20 years younger again, and lighter ;D
Hey, things could be worse. You could weigh 500 lbs like CERTAIN people around here... ;)
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Ah like this "Little Guy" in Hawaii :-*
Hi Keith ;D
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i heard that next year there will be an under 202lbs weight class for every mens IFBB show
that is SO intriguing.
Looks like Eryk Bui picked the wrong year to meltdown :-*