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Very hard, very expensive, very time consuming. Post your diets where you are getting 2g per pound of body weight.
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Very hard, very expensive, very time consuming. Post your diets where you are getting 2g per pound of body weight.
No its not. Just eat a cup of egg whites and protien shake for every meal and don't get any carbs. You are looking at about 80 grams per meal.
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this is as close as I've gotten...
3 shakes a day 3scoops each... 225
2lbs of steak...15 grams per 4oz... 120
10 hard boiled eggs @7 grams each....70
a can of tuna... 32
I don't eat that much anymore unless I start to see recovery issues or signs of over training where there once wasn't to help bring things back up to par..
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I though the body couldn't use anything more than 200 grams in a day? 500 grams damn
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Good thread, id like to hear more about this, and its not very hard to reach 500gr of protein a day.
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I though the body couldn't use anything more than 200 grams in a day? 500 grams damn
Depends on the person, and if the body is anabolic or not. If not you beating your head against the wall and putting you kidneys in the "Crippler Crossface". - Sorry Chris Benoit..rip.
On a side note I throw carbs in with my shakes, mix it with Fruit Punch to get some quick that will burn off fast, and usually use carbs like brown rice and sweet potatoes with my solid meals.
Just gotta find out what works best for you. If I go low or no carbs, I actually lose weight.
Edit: When trying to increase your protein do it in a gradual progression, it is hard to do. Just like dieting down, most quit before they hit their goal. Aim for 1g per pound, then 1.25g per pound etc.... this will make it comfortable and get your body used to bigger portion sizes.
Once in the 400g/day range You may find yourself drinking protein shakes with meals too.
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I though the body couldn't use anything more than 200 grams in a day? 500 grams damn
lol i find these kind of statements hilarious.
jackass...
you dont think it depends on the size of the person?
Ronnie Coleman at 300 pounds might have higher protein needs than say joe shmoe at 150 pounds?
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Very hard, very expensive, very time consuming. Post your diets where you are getting 2g per pound of body weight.
I sell protein.
You don't need that much (500g, irrespective of what you weigh).
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I sell protein.
Am i supposed to believe you.
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I though the body couldn't use anything more than 200 grams in a day? 500 grams damn
It can if you aren't getting any carbohydrates and your body is running off of the protien.
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I sell protein.
You don't need that much (500g, irrespective of what you weigh).
Thats what I read ???
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IMO,
500g is WAY overboard... even for a pro.
talk about taking a toll on the kidneys... :-X
i would rather replace those calories with complex carbs and healthy fats
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Very hard, very expensive, very time consuming. Post your diets where you are getting 2g per pound of body weight.
bullshit. no one needs 2g protein per pound of bw.
not even a pro bodybuilder who is dieting hard.
also been seeing lots of threads about amount of needed amounts of carbs, amounts of needed protein bla bla bla...and the scary thing is that most of the posts are absolute bullshit and are perpetuating old myths and just full of ignorance.
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IMO,
500g is WAY overboard... even for a pro.
talk about taking a toll on the kidneys... :-X
i would rather replace those calories with complex carbs and healthy fats
I agree ! Great post ! Too much Protein is toxic to your Kidneys ... just throw in a lot of Healthy Fats and you'll be good to go ! ;)
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I though the body couldn't use anything more than 200 grams in a day? 500 grams damn
your kidding right?
protein need is relative to bw and if your trying to add muscle or not.
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Depends on the person, and if the body is anabolic or not. If not you beating your head against the wall and putting you kidneys in the "Crippler Crossface". - Sorry Chris Benoit..rip.
On a side note I throw carbs in with my shakes, mix it with Fruit Punch to get some quick that will burn off fast, and usually use carbs like brown rice and sweet potatoes with my solid meals.
Just gotta find out what works best for you. If I go low or no carbs, I actually lose weight.
Edit: When trying to increase your protein do it in a gradual progression, it is hard to do. Just like dieting down, most quit before they hit their goal. Aim for 1g per pound, then 1.25g per pound etc.... this will make it comfortable and get your body used to bigger portion sizes.
Once in the 400g/day range You may find yourself drinking protein shakes with meals too.
if you loose weight its because your eating less calories than you use per day. simple as that. for example:
if you ate 300g of protein and 1000g fat per day and zero carbs you would not loose any weight..infact you would become an obese pig.
its not a matter of what works for you. its a basic thermodynamic premise. which cant be circumvented if your not using toxic drugs that induce your body to become a furnace.
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if you loose weight its because your eating less calories than you use per day. simple as that. for example:
if you ate 300g of protein and 1000g fat per day and zero carbs you would not loose any weight..infact you would become an obese pig.
its not a matter of what works for you. its a basic thermodynamic premise. which cant be circumvented if your not using toxic drugs that induce your body to become a furnace.
What toxic drugs are you talking about? Are you saying what works for one person will work for everyone?
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Good thread, id like to hear more about this, and its not very hard to reach 500gr of protein a day.
500gr is very hard to reach. Honestly try and do it for a week. Them tell me it's easy.
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500gr is very hard to reach. Honestly try and do it for a week. Them tell me it's easy.
with shakes it's too easy
with only real food I'd puke that shit out in a hurry
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500gr is very hard to reach. Honestly try and do it for a week. Them tell me it's easy.
i never counted my intake but there was a period when i took loads of protein and my sweat was smelling as ammonia, a sign i was taking too much protein or too less carbs and the last wasnt the case.
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i never counted my intake but there was a period when i took loads of protein and my sweat was smelling as ammonia, a sign i was taking too much protein or too less carbs and the last wasnt the case.
maybe you just like to smell like ammonia
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with shakes it's too easy
with only real food I'd puke that shit out in a hurry
500gr?? Has to be great on the kidneys. When I've done close to that all I did was shit all damn day.
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What toxic drugs are you talking about? Are you saying what works for one person will work for everyone?
DNP of example, should not be used by ANYONE. as for second question: yes!! if your talking about calories in vs calories out that is. you need to be in a caloric surplus to gain muscle and vice versa. (unless your a total newbie..a newbie can sometimes somehow, dont know how, add muscle and loose fat for a short period of time)
sometimes the bullshit about everyone is different is taken too far....people are actually alot more like than different. it not like we are talking about pigs and elephants.
i read several of your posts about nutrition dballn..and i have found some mistakes. but i dont have the time to comment on everything right now.
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DNP of example, should not be used by ANYONE. as for second question: yes!! if your talking about calories in vs calories out that is. you need to be in a caloric surplus to gain muscle and vice versa. (unless your a total newbie..a newbie can sometimes somehow, dont know how, add muscle and loose fat for a short period of time)
sometimes the bullshit about everyone is different is taken too far....people are actually alot more like than different. it not like we are talking about pigs and elephants.
i read several of your posts about nutrition dballn..and i have found some mistakes. but i dont have the time to comment on everything right now.
Well then, I agree to disagree to some extent, as I do agree with you on some things. It is not like I am trying to start some Adonis principals or something like that. I think many take the Total Calories theory to far.
For me carbs work better as an energy source. Some prefer fats. I like that I can manipulate my weight better by carbs, using fastburning and slow burning carbs. That is all, there are several roads that will lead you to the destination, the road I take, is different than the road you take.
Peace out. 8)
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Very hard, very expensive, very time consuming. Post your diets where you are getting 2g per pound of body weight.
That is 2 g per kilogram (1000g) of your lean BW, not per pound. You shouldn't mix metric units to that nonsense which you are using out there, but anyway; one pound is about 0.454kg so you could calculate it from that. And it is from lean body weight, so first you have to know you body fat %, and take it out from calculation. 2g per 1kg means 200g for a guy whose "dry" weight is 100kg, and that isn't so much for one day. Some egg whites, some chicken breast, some red meat etc.
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hahahahhaa, 500 grams you guys must be absolute BEASTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhaa, all kidding aside i remember reading Tom Prince saying in Flex that there isn't a human being on earth who trains hard enough to break down enough muscle fibers to need 500 grams of protein a day and 500 grams was the exact figure he claimed and he was a guy with 10 times as much muscle as the average bb'er.
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Are you saying that Milos is bullshitting us Dave?
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hahahahhaa, 500 grams you guys must be absolute BEASTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhaa, all kidding aside i remember reading Tom Prince saying in Flex that there isn't a human being on earth who trains hard enough to break down enough muscle fibers to need 500 grams of protein a day and 500 grams was the exact figure he claimed and he was a guy with 10 times as much muscle as the average bb'er.
Maybe he should have ate more protein and used a bit less drugs Sars. He's looking huge these days. ;D
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Are you saying that Milos is bullshitting us Dave?
look Milos is a good guy and a great bodybuilder but no one needs 500 grams of protein unless they're eating literally ZERO carbs or fats and even then you don't need more than 350.
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Maybe he should have ate more protein and used a bit less drugs Sars. He's looking huge these days. ;D
hahahahaha, he's a monster these days, is he not? i love the picture where he's standing next to Cormier and someone commented that he looks like Cormier's hand puppet. ;D
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i never counted my intake but there was a period when i took loads of protein and my sweat was smelling as ammonia, a sign i was taking too much protein or too less carbs and the last wasnt the case.
same thing happened to me
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look Milos is a good guy and a great bodybuilder but no one needs 500 grams of protein unless they're eating literally ZERO carbs or fats and even then you don't need more than 350.
even 350 is a lot... anyway i gues it's relative but most people who say they eat that much protein are fatties...
hahahahaha, he's a monster these days, is he not? i love the picture where he's standing next to Cormier and someone commented that he looks like Cormier's hand puppet. ;D
please post!
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Your kidneys just left and started a thread of thei own..... ::)
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Very hard, very expensive, very time consuming. Post your diets where you are getting 2g per pound of body weight.
With all the c0ck you suck...500g shouldn't be too hard for you.?
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funny thing is that you think its hard to eat 500g protien a day,,your body doesnt know wether you give it liquid or solid meals,,it dont care either,,liquid meals you will have to eat every 2 hours and solid meal every 3-4 hours,,if you sit on your ass all day long doing nothing you can eat both type of meals every 3 hours sometimes even 4,,
10 little carton of egg whites papetty usa foods = 500 gram protien,,in usa it is about 2-3 dollars per one little carton and that means you need to spend 25$ a day inorder to get your 500 gram protien and at the same time you can be vegeterian and eat no meat! if you dont like taste of pesturized egg whites you just add into it crystal light poweder pink lemonde taste or cranberry caffeine taste thing that has caffeine in it and zero sugar,,that make those eggwhites taste like heaven,,mixed with spoon and its real food not protien poweder which is also ok if you want to add it sometimes
you just got here over 500gram of protien a day for 25$ with out eating even one single meal of meat or fish
saying all that,,you still dont need more than 1.75 gram protien per pound for growth to happen,,sometimes even less,,2 gram per lb should be plenty and you beter be on hormones while takin 2 gram per lb
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500 grams sounds like fucken huge overkill.
I doubt I'd get over 150 gms a day. :-[
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Candidate gets 1250g/ day but I think he snorts most of it.
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I bet Shawn only ate when he felt like it, probably only 200 g per day when he was competing. anyone have input on this?
Also, 25 bucks a day= 750 bucks a month on food alone, seems kinda steep...
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I sell protein.
You don't need that much (500g, irrespective of what you weigh).
I agree, eat 500gr and shit 150-200gr..........make sense too me ::)
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look Milos is a good guy and a great bodybuilder but no one needs 500 grams of protein unless they're eating literally ZERO carbs or fats and even then you don't need more than 350.
if your only source of calories is protein; and your consuming 350 grams of protein; that is only a caloric total of 1400 daily calories.
yes.
350 grams is all you need if your only consuming protein.... ::)
come on jackass ...do you even think before you post?
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I though the body couldn't use anything more than 200 grams in a day? 500 grams damn
LOL, the body can utilise up to 2 grams of protein per pound, if your on roids its 2-2.5 pounds and if your natural 2grams.
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if your only source of calories is protein; and your consuming 350 grams of protein; that is only a caloric total of 1400 daily calories.
yes.
350 grams is all you need if your only consuming protein.... ::)
come on jackass ...do you even think before you post?
you're so full of shit
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you're so full of shit
LOL, good call.
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what the fuck, woo?
did i advocate consuming more than 350 grams of protein? no.
shut your goddamn mouth.
what i said was entirely accurate.
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hahahahhaa, 500 grams you guys must be absolute BEASTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhaa, all kidding aside i remember reading Tom Prince saying in Flex that there isn't a human being on earth who trains hard enough to break down enough muscle fibers to need 500 grams of protein a day and 500 grams was the exact figure he claimed and he was a guy with 10 times as much muscle as the average bb'er.
Yeah.... TP has the kidneys of a 500g/day guy! ;D
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you're so full of shit
I actually have to agree w/Candidate on this one. Not that eating that much is necessary (unless on hormones of course) but it simple math.
350grams at 4 cals per gram = 350 x 4 = 1400cal.
That being said, unless you are very anabolic you don't really need more that a gram per pound. If you are going to increase do it gradually. 1g per pound, then 1.25g per pound, 1.5g per pound etc. Just jumping into 2g per pound is hard, try it for a week and you'll probably quit, plus you body won't be used to the drastic change and like coach said above, you'll just end up $hitting it out.
Yeah.... TP has the kidneys of a 500g/day guy! ;D
So does Flex... ;D
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what the fuck, woo?
did i advocate consuming more than 350 grams of protein? no.
shut your goddamn mouth.
what i said was entirely accurate.
:)
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For a natural, even 350g is far more than you need. The largest requirement I've seen in peer-reviewed scientific studies on weight-training athletes is .75g/lb of lean mass. If you want to be safe and to keep it simple, up it to 1g/lb of bodyweight (unless you're squadfather-like fat), but for a 200-lb guy that's only 200g max. Although I haven't seen studies on AAS and protein, it makes absolute sense that a gear-user would require more, since AAS increases protein synthesis in the body, but these idiots like Dante Doggshit advocating 400-500+ g/day for a natural are full of it.
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For a natural, even 350g is far more than you need. The largest requirement I've seen in peer-reviewed scientific studies on weight-training athletes is .75g/lb of lean mass. If you want to be safe and to keep it simple, up it to 1g/lb of bodyweight (unless you're squadfather-like fat), but for a 200-lb guy that's only 200g max. Although I haven't seen studies on AAS and protein, it makes absolute sense that a gear-user would require more, since AAS increases protein synthesis in the body, but these idiots like Dante Doggshit advocating 400-500+ g/day for a natural are full of it.
Exactly. It's a complete waste for a natural bodybuilder to use more than 1 gram per pound of lean body mass unless precontest dieting.
Steroids will definitely increase the rate of protein synthesis but even then more than 1.5 grams per pound of lean mass is probably not necessary unless dieting.
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So why milos doesnt know better then?
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So why milos doesnt know better then?
Because Milos is an amature.
/sarcasm
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Because Milos is an amature.
/sarcasm
Stop whining!!
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was there something "garraeth"?
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Because Milos is an amature. /sarcasm
At natural bodybuilding, he is.
Now, if I were on a gram of test a week, plus generous amounts on GH and 'slin, Milos is probably the first guy I'd go to for advice (as long as he didn't try to put me on Snake OilTM ;D).