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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The Coach on September 15, 2007, 09:35:29 PM
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http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_competitor&CompetitorID=11997
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I think he's white.
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http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_competitor&CompetitorID=11997
Blame insulin. For the hype, for the big-ass legs, for everything.
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looks pretty not bad
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The Coach, how many 21/22-year-old bodybuilders do you of that are that advanced?
That's what the hype is about. Quite simple!
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The Coach, how many 21/22-year-old bodybuilders do you of that are that advanced?
That's what the hype is about. Quite simple!
Yep, advanced young dude.
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:o
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Looks like he has a shitload of potential. Lets hope lives long enough to fulfill it. Very young, very big, good muscle maturity for age, at that size.
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Don't see the hype ::)
He's still a kid. How many kids have you seen looking like that? Very big and quite proportionate.
Why are you here?
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Looks like he has a shitload of potential. Lets hope lives long enough to fulfill it. Very young, very big, good muscle maturity for age, at that size.
please explain what muscle 'maturity' is because all i can think of is age. and his muscles are 21-22 yrs old like him.
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Actually, he has a wide waist and terrible back detail, and small arms. At the same age Evan looked better. What will happen is his waist will get wider due to more mass, and then the gut, and the back detail will get slightly better. All this will come with age.
When the young guys are already pushing in big boy range, you can tell that they haven't gradually grown into the weight. Three of the best examples of growing into weight is Shawn Ray, Mike Francois and Dennis James is a lesser example. Shawn Ray turneed pro at 21 and at his first Mr. O he was 201 pounds. Mike Francois was like 235 when he won the NOC (correct me if I am wrong), then gradually brought his weight up to 250+. Dennis James won his pro card at a weight of 235, at his heaviest he was pushing 265.
The fact of the matter is, if you got it, you got it, if you don't, you don't. No matter what his age is. And just because he's young and advanced doesn't mean a thing nowadays with the terrible gene pool in bbing. Look at Chris Cook, everybody went gaga about him at a early age, except he could never get in shape. Then is Trey looks like a younger, smaller version of Paco Bautista, who only looks good with clothes on, when on stage both look like a jumble of bodyparts.
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Looks like he has a shitload of potential. Lets hope lives long enough to fulfill it. Very young, very big, good muscle maturity for age, at that size.
yep... he's not perfect and no one is saying he's a mr O but he's still pretty awesome for his age
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We've seen a lot of hyped guys over the years. Chris cook, Matt mendenthal, Victor Richards, etc etc
A lot don't pan out.
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His progress will be determined by the number of organ transplants needed by his 30th birthday.
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His progress will be determined by the number of organ transplants needed by his 30th birthday.
Exactly....and what about his parents? For a 21 yr old kid to look that way means he started training and heavily juicing at around 18. Kids don't have any money so his folks paid to let their kid juice themselves to the tip top. Does he look impressive? No doubt, kid looks amazing.
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Exactly....and what about his parents? For a 21 yr old kid to look that way means he started training and heavily juicing at around 18. Kids don't have any money so his folks paid to let their kid juice themselves to the tip top. Does he look impressive? No doubt, kid looks amazing.
Not at all. He made his own stuff with his 7th grade chemistry set and hid the juice in his Ninja Turtles figurines.
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This dude is pretty advanced for a 21/22 year old. He's pretty fuggin dense. Sounds like coach is a bit bitter that his steroid exploits in the 80's didn't work out so good.
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This dude is pretty advanced for a 21/22 year old. He's pretty fuggin dense. Sounds like coach is a bit bitter that his steroid exploits in the 80's didn't work out so good.
Coach is competing again. Maybe he resents a young kid who looks ten timess better. precontest dieting will fvck with a player's head.
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Coach is competing again. Maybe he resents a young kid who looks ten timess better. precontest dieting will fvck with a player's head.
Yes, that must be it ::)
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Yes, that must be it ::)
:-\
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Yes, that must be it ::)
Then what don't you get, the kid looks impressive.
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Sounds like coach is a bit bitter that his steroid exploits in the 80's didn't work out so good.
Again, yes, the "experts" have me pegged. Can't get nothing by you guys ::)
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Its called "potential". He has an astounding base and with a few years of growing and experience he could be the freakiest bb since Paul Dillet or Ronnie. Possibly a futire Mr. Olympia. How many guys look like that at 22? Same with Phil Heath not quite 5 years of training and he looks like he has been at it since his early teens and has an awesome structure that has a long way to go before it is maxed. I am also looking at guys coming up who are younger but have lots of potential like Evan Centopani, Eric Frankenhauser, and new pro Ben White.
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The Coach, what have you got against "The Barely Legal Freak"?
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Again, yes, the "experts" have me pegged. Can't get nothing by you guys ::)
::) Maybe you can out bench him ROTFLOL.
Eat some carbs or have a beer it's Sunday. You won't be such a bitch.
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Geez, all I said was "I don't see the hype" I never said I had anything against the guy, yes, he looks awesome for 22, but i also see him fading quickly. It was my personal opinion, now all of the sudden I'm jelous and didn't take enough gear in the 80's :-\
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::) Maybe you can out bench him ROTFLOL.
have a beer it's Sunday. You won't be such a bitch.
You're right, but it's only 9:40am here............but then again it's 12:00pm somewhere ;D
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You're right, but it's only 9:40am here............but then again it's 12:00pm somewhere ;D
My bad forgot your on the other coast. You know I'm breaking your balls right? How's your diet coming BTW? Your last pics looked impressive, when are you going to update?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/progressive.png)
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My bad forgot your on the other coast. You know I'm breaking your balls right? How's your diet coming BTW? Your last pics looked impressive, when are you going to update?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/progressive.png)
Diet is going good, I still have 10 weeks and I'm changing day to day, this morning I was really flat, but man, after not competing for along time I can see my age sitting around my lower abs and lower back. We figure I'm within about 12-15lbs out right now. Pics? You guys would tear me up right now ;D
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Geez, all I said was "I don't see the hype" I never said I had anything against the guy, yes, he looks awesome for 22, but i also see him fading quickly. It was my personal opinion, now all of the sudden I'm jelous and didn't take enough gear in the 80's :-\
Fading? All 300 pounds of him? If anything, he's getting bigger.
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Fading? All 300 pounds of him? If anything, he's getting bigger.
I meant fading as in being overly-hyped......Remember Federov?
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Oh OK. My bad.
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I meant fading as in being overly-hyped......Remember Federov?
This is true, the hype will most likely be the end of him. Regardless of physiques, hype destroys a lot of BB's. It never really did anything for Melvin Anthony and he was touted to be the Second coming of Flex Wheeler. And he hasn't won as many shows as Darrem Charles.
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http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_competitor&CompetitorID=11997
LOLOLOL
this coming from the guy who says Victor Martinez is overated ::) ::)
(http://ptwithchris.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/victor-martinez-guest-07.jpg)
face it, "coach": you're a bitter old man who has it out for any young dog living your dream
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2882935/2/istockphoto_2882935_old_man.jpg)
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This is true, the hype will most likely be the end of him. Regardless of physiques, hype destroys a lot of BB's. It never really did anything for Melvin Anthony and he was touted to be the Second coming of Flex Wheeler. And he hasn't won as many shows as Darrem Charles.
Quite true. Mel has his own strengths over Flex, but has not found that winning formula....he looked better when he got his pro card in 1999 than he ever has.
Trey is over hyped...how good is he in the amateurs? How well his he placing? And who is bringing the hype...MD? Aside from them nobody is really talking that he is a blowout competitor. It has been said that the next Ronnie Coleman is someone training in the "backwoods" or someone nobody talks about. Next thing you know Ben White wins his pro card, people are talking about Auguste and that dude who looks like Brian Pumper. Trey until he can match these dudes is all hype, no substance
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The Barely Legal Freak owns your jealous minds ;)
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LOLOLOL
this coming from the guy who says Victor Martinez is overated ::) ::)
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2882935/2/istockphoto_2882935_old_man.jpg)
Yeah right, how come photo's of Martinez are always from the quads up? ::) ::)
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He dwarfs you at 22 :'( . That's what the hype's about. ;D
Hope this helps.
Warm regards,
N4J
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The guy looks pretty darn good to me!
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He dwarfs you at 22 :'( . That's what the hype's about. ;D
Hope this helps.
Warm regards,
N4J
He dwarfs me at 45......whats you're point?
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I think the point was, "He at 22 dwarfs you up to and at 45."
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I think the point was, "He at 22 dwarfs you up to and at 45."
yea but who is gonna croke first
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How do you know that. dzulboy?
You got insider information or just speculation?
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sick potential to be a top pro, provided he gets the structural shortcomings down. insane amount of muscle to be carrying already
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yea but who is gonna croke first
Not me, I can promise you!
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Not me, I can promise you!
I wish you a long and happy life, but how exactly do you know that a young man who is 23 years your junior will die before you?
Have you placed a hit on him? Do you know any insider info about him? Or are you just speculating?
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Not me, I can promise you!
your poppin ECA in your mid-40s, twice a day.
that aint exactly longterm planning, hoss
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I think the point was, "He at 22 dwarfs you up to and at 45."
YUP, that would be the point. ;D
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your poppin ECA in your mid-40s, twice a day.
that aint exactly longterm planning, hoss
I've done alot worse, ECA is like having a cup of coffee compared to what I used to do.....lets just say I've built up a tolerance :-\
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I've done alot worse, ECA is like having a cup of coffee compared to what I used to do.....lets just say I've built up a tolerance :-\
i understand your tolerance. but theres some serious blood vessel constriction going on, and in a longterm way. youre at a high risk for heart disease, or valve damage due to them aging faster than the rest of you due to what you put them thru. i like to beat on you here, like i do all members. but for real, you shouldn't be on eca in your 40s. I think all seasoned trainers and competitors here will tell you that :-\
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i understand your tolerance. but theres some serious blood vessel constriction going on, and in a longterm way. youre at a high risk for heart disease, or valve damage due to them aging faster than the rest of you due to what you put them thru. i like to beat on you here, like i do all members. but for real, you shouldn't be on eca in your 40s. I think all seasoned trainers and competitors here will tell you that :-\
If I can tolerate my nut job ex-wife for 10 years I can tolerate ECA. Seriously, I'm well aware of the effects and my age, I go in about once a month for a check up, doctor knows what is going on. I could see your point if I was dependant on it, as a matter of fact, it was a huge decision to compete again, at my age I am very carful about what I put into my body and what I use and trust me....it's not much more than you're average HRT.
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If I can tolerate my nut job ex-wife for 10 years I can tolerate ECA. Seriously, I'm well aware of the effects and my age, I go in about once a month for a check up, doctor knows what is going on. I could see your point if I was dependant on it, as a matter of fact, it was a huge decision to compete again, at my age I am very carful about what I put into my body and what I use and trust me....it's not much more than you're average HRT.
cool. i read a ton. HRT is a great thing and will extend your lifetime significantly - as will using test supplementation. At your age, I'd recommend it not just for bodybuilding, but quality of life as well!
ECA is different, in my humble opinion. You're piling a few things on top of each other. You have the caffeine - which releases epinephrine. We all know what ephedrine does. And the aspirin extends the thermogenic effect. It's risky for youths, but for anyone over 35, it's just outright crazy.
i'm not trying to rain on your parade - competition is incredible and I don't blame you for coming back. I've used ECA myself in competition, I knew the risks, but I'm a young man with no family. People at your age do just fall over from ECA. They drop dead with heart failure and it's not news. Not wanting to scare you. just looking out bro!