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Title: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Danimal77 on September 20, 2007, 01:36:39 PM
That's what I firmly believe. Rich has horrible genetics, but was such a damn hard worker in the gym that he pushed his own envelope, but at the end of the day, even the best Rich, or now the best Jay, is not a pretty physique. Ronnie KILLS Jay in ways of genetics. Man, I want to see Ronnie come in and destroy Jay. One last time big man. One last time.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: gordiano on September 20, 2007, 01:52:16 PM
That's what I firmly believe. Rich has horrible genetics, but was such a damn hard worker in the gym that he pushed his own envelope, but at the end of the day, even the best Rich, or now the best Jay, is not a pretty physique. Ronnie KILLS Jay in ways of genetics. Man, I want to see Ronnie come in and destroy Jay. One last time big man. One last time.

 :-X

Sounds like something out of "Kaged Muscle".
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Ozzy on September 20, 2007, 01:53:22 PM
hahahahaa
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 20, 2007, 02:21:35 PM
That's what I firmly believe. Rich has horrible genetics, but was such a damn hard worker in the gym that he pushed his own envelope, but at the end of the day, even the best Rich, or now the best Jay, is not a pretty physique. Ronnie KILLS Jay in ways of genetics. Man, I want to see Ronnie come in and destroy Jay. One last time big man. One last time.

The difference between Jay & Rich is Jay has a better structure Jay is wider in the clavicles and Jay has the genetics to carry size and lots of it , Rich had better genetics for muscle hardness and conditioning

 
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Monster81 on September 20, 2007, 02:24:47 PM
The difference between Jay & Rich is Jay has a better structure Jay is wider in the clavicles and Jay has the genetics to carry size and lots of it , Rich had better genetics for muscle hardness and conditioning

 
yep, Rich was very vascular
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Matt C on September 20, 2007, 02:59:23 PM
That's what I firmly believe. Rich has horrible genetics, but was such a damn hard worker in the gym that he pushed his own envelope, but at the end of the day, even the best Rich, or now the best Jay, is not a pretty physique. Ronnie KILLS Jay in ways of genetics. Man, I want to see Ronnie come in and destroy Jay. One last time big man. One last time.

In terms of SHAPE only.  In every other way he was leaps and bounds ahead of almost any bodybuilder ever.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Andre Nickatina on September 20, 2007, 03:03:30 PM
I've seen dogs with wider shoulders than Rich.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 20, 2007, 03:19:05 PM
In terms of SHAPE only.  In every other way he was leaps and bounds ahead of almost any bodybuilder ever.

WRONG in terms of structure Gaspari lacked clavicle width , small joints , small waist & hips he was relatively big and hard as nails , like Yates he lacks aesthetics
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: marcus on September 20, 2007, 03:29:14 PM
I'd rather lack aesthetics than carry oil.  :D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Monster81 on September 20, 2007, 03:33:41 PM
I've seen dogs with wider shoulders than Rich.
Not on an IFBB stage.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 20, 2007, 03:36:13 PM
I've seen dogs with wider shoulders than Rich.

Even with a wide waist & hips his shoulders are wide as fuck
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Bast000 on September 20, 2007, 03:37:05 PM
That's what I firmly believe. Rich has horrible genetics, but was such a damn hard worker in the gym that he pushed his own envelope, but at the end of the day, even the best Rich, or now the best Jay, is not a pretty physique. Ronnie KILLS Jay in ways of genetics. Man, I want to see Ronnie come in and destroy Jay. One last time big man. One last time.

you = stupid  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: FLEX N FREAK on September 20, 2007, 03:47:39 PM
I concure you = stupid  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Master Blaster on September 20, 2007, 03:47:55 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Cutler, but I think people are really underestimating him. Oh, he'll still lose, but people talk like he's the hunch back of Notre Dame or some shit.

This ia a dude who won the Arnold a bunch of times, and his recent pics show some very impressive conditioning. Doesn't look oily at all.  :-\
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Radical Plato on September 20, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
At least Rich Gaspari had some decent seperation, definition and vascularity
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Honour on September 21, 2007, 12:48:01 AM
WOW Rich looks crazy in that pic :o!!!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: crc69 on September 21, 2007, 12:56:36 AM
WOW Rich looks crazy in that pic :o!!!

Only posted 255 000 times (and low res)  ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on September 21, 2007, 12:59:57 AM
:-X

Sounds like something out of "Kaged Muscle".

Talk about a play on words !  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Honour on September 21, 2007, 01:00:53 AM
Only posted 255 000 times (and low res)  ::)

Yeah I have seen it before a while back, but it's still a great pick. He has terrible shape but made the most of what he had.....yeah i know, that has been said before as well 8).
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Matt C on September 21, 2007, 08:09:24 AM
WRONG in terms of structure Gaspari lacked clavicle width , small joints , small waist & hips he was relatively big and hard as nails , like Yates he lacks aesthetics

Yes, Rich did not have the greatest shape and structure, but his ability to get conditioned and gain size was amazing.

At least Rich Gaspari had some decent seperation, definition and vascularity which was the best in the history of bodybuilding

Fixed.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Old-Skool on September 21, 2007, 06:15:18 PM
Stupidest pointless comparison goes to........... ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: njflex on September 21, 2007, 06:21:32 PM
yeah,for a guy with such terrible shape as rich he still was 3 time runnerup in the olympia .so i guess some of the negative comments mean nothing.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2007, 06:34:16 PM
At least Rich Gaspari had some decent seperation, definition and vascularity

Proof that its harder get that kind of conditioning than it is to get big.....todays competitors and "gurus" should take note.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: WOOO on September 21, 2007, 06:53:26 PM
jay is a beast.... he shits things that are bigger than gaspari
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Jeriko on September 21, 2007, 07:20:10 PM
Even with a wide waist & hips his shoulders are wide as fuck

even with a relatively wide waist, that JAY shadow pic is f*cking sick
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: gymguy on September 21, 2007, 07:34:16 PM
Not comparable.  Rich was a hard, vascular muscular freak.  Jay is just a big muscular freak.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 21, 2007, 07:37:45 PM
Proof that its harder get that kind of conditioning than it is to get big.....todays competitors and "gurus" should take note.
You better show up in insane condition at your show... especially since you stay away from the dreaded insulin and use old school methods.  :D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: The Coach on September 22, 2007, 09:12:07 AM
You better show up in insane condition at your show... especially since you stay away from the dreaded insulin and use old school methods.  :D

Hey, I'll do what I can, at 45 and not dieting like this in 17 years, who knows what the outcome will be. (although at this point I have a pretty good idea ;D) but yes, I'm training and prepping old school all the down to my posing. Hopefully I can bring something different!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Stavios on September 22, 2007, 09:13:28 AM
That's what I firmly believe. Rich has horrible genetics, but was such a damn hard worker in the gym that he pushed his own envelope, but at the end of the day, even the best Rich, or now the best Jay, is not a pretty physique. Ronnie KILLS Jay in ways of genetics. Man, I want to see Ronnie come in and destroy Jay. One last time big man. One last time.

LOL

Cutler isn't even on the same level as gaspari

Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Danimal77 on September 22, 2007, 02:09:05 PM
Guys, not to come to my own defense here, but what I meant by the comparisons, is that Rich had a very strong work ethic in the gym and everyone who was anyone in the bodybuidling work, including Haney and truly all of Gaspari's former competitors, have made mention that Rich was not gifted in the way of genetics. That fact did not stop him however from building a physique that surpassed all expectations and even imposed a threat to the likes of Haney, Labrada, Christian, etc..

You know, the same could be said about Yates and to a much lesser extent to Cutler, who in my opinion has one of the worst physiques that have graced the bodybuilding world and to have ever worn an Olympian crown, but as the saying goes: "He's busted his ass in the gym".
Title: Re: Jay Cutler = Rich Gaspari
Post by: Matt C on September 22, 2007, 05:06:53 PM
Check out the pictures of Rich in the link below.  He looks crazy:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html