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Title: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2007, 06:54:53 AM
Now my should press is nothing great, especially with people like squadfather and the like here. I can do a full movement 70lbs in each hand for 6 reps. Anyway at that weight I sometimes have trouble getting the dumbbells above my shoulders. Usually I just swing them up there but it is always awkward for me. Anyone else have this problem and a solution maybe? :)
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on September 27, 2007, 07:25:58 AM
Now my should press is nothing great, especially with people like squadfather and the like here. I can do a full movement 70lbs in each hand for 6 reps. Anyway at that weight I sometimes have trouble getting the dumbbells above my shoulders. Usually I just swing them up there but it is always awkward for me. Anyone else have this problem and a solution maybe? :)

should be no problem, put em on your thighs as you sit down on the bench and "kick em up" in combination with pressing them to position.

when the dumbbells get really heavy you can have someone hand them to you.


or: lower the weight.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: jpm101 on September 27, 2007, 07:51:11 AM
You do not want to swing the DB's on to the shoulders. You want to clean or pull them up close to the body. Cleaning a DB or BB takes a little practice, it's a learning exercise.  Your cleaning strength may be a little weak at the moment. So you might want to include a cleaning exercise  to increase your power in that lift. If your doing sitting presses than  start from a semi standing position and clean the DB's up. As they come up you sit down on the bench. Should be able to clean the DB's high enough that they will settle on the shoulders as you are seated.

One arm or side presses are also a great Delt movement. Usually done standing with the free hand braced against something to keep the body stable during the press. Can work up to some impressive poundage that way. Good luck.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2007, 07:57:58 AM
You do not want to swing the DB's on to the shoulders. You want to clean or pull them up close to the body. Cleaning a DB or BB takes a little practice, it's a learning exercise.  Your cleaning strength may be a little weak at the moment. So you might want to include a cleaning exercise  to increase your power in that lift. If your doing sitting presses than  start from a semi standing position and clean the DB's up. As they come up you sit down on the bench. Should be able to clean the DB's high enough that they will settle on the shoulders as you are seated.

One arm or side presses are also a great Delt movement. Usually done standing with the free hand braced against something to keep the body stable during the press. Can work up to some impressive poundage that way. Good luck.

Will try that...
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: coltrane on September 27, 2007, 08:09:40 AM
definitely need to learn how to "kick 'em up". 

My old training partner just couldn't do it.....eventually he got into some pretty heavy weight with pressing, but he would swing them up, and it always took a rep or two outta his lift due to exhaustion.


learn early to kick em.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: mass 04 on September 27, 2007, 08:21:16 AM
You do not want to swing the DB's on to the shoulders. You want to clean or pull them up close to the body. Cleaning a DB or BB takes a little practice, it's a learning exercise.  Your cleaning strength may be a little weak at the moment. So you might want to include a cleaning exercise  to increase your power in that lift. If your doing sitting presses than  start from a semi standing position and clean the DB's up. As they come up you sit down on the bench. Should be able to clean the DB's high enough that they will settle on the shoulders as you are seated.

One arm or side presses are also a great Delt movement. Usually done standing with the free hand braced against something to keep the body stable during the press. Can work up to some impressive poundage that way. Good luck.
That is the exact tequnique I use, works great IMO. I can't kick the dumbells up either, when i first started i fell off the bench trying :P
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: jpm101 on September 27, 2007, 08:56:37 AM
If any newbee is not familiar with the term "kicking up" it's pretty simple. Clean, hoist, DL or however way to get both DB's (ends of the plates) resting on the knees while sitting. Just start with one knee and lift (or kick) the DB up quickly and high enough so the DB is helped up onto the shoulders. Arm action here also. Than do the kick-up with the other knee. The lower abs assist in kick-ups as well as the thighs. For me it works best on an incline bench. Flat bench second. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: The Squadfather on September 27, 2007, 09:17:39 AM
quit being a pusssy and do barbell presses, db presses are for the girls.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: 2ND COMING on September 27, 2007, 10:01:36 AM
barbell's dont give you size db's can
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: mass 04 on September 27, 2007, 10:24:31 AM
quit being a pusssy and do barbell presses, db presses are for the girls.
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Do you press behind the neck?
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: powerpack on September 27, 2007, 10:44:41 AM
definitely need to learn how to "kick 'em up". 

My old training partner just couldn't do it.....eventually he got into some pretty heavy weight with pressing, but he would swing them up, and it always took a rep or two outta his lift due to exhaustion.


learn early to kick em.
I also find I loose energy just getting my dumbells up.
I struggle to kick them up as mine are adjustables and dont have a flat end.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: The Squadfather on September 27, 2007, 01:26:52 PM
barbell's dont give you size db's can
hahahahahaha, ok "2nd coming". ::)
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: The Squadfather on September 27, 2007, 01:53:01 PM
quit being a pusssy and do barbell presses, db presses are for the girls.
[/quote
Do you press behind the neck?
no, i press to the front.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: triple_pickle on September 27, 2007, 05:23:13 PM
i always clean dumbells and barbell from the floor
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: haider on September 27, 2007, 05:33:32 PM
No.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: SirTraps on September 27, 2007, 06:56:41 PM
i used to do military presses-barbell is the way to go.  Now i just incline heavy and that works my  shoulders enough.

         
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: WOOO on September 27, 2007, 07:20:41 PM
i pop them up off my knees... and i go over 70s... i think it's just practice...


i could probably pop up dumbbells that are heavier than i could actually press
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2007, 07:25:33 PM
i pop them up off my knees... and i go over 70s... i think it's just practice...


i could probably pop up dumbbells that are heavier than i could actually press

But you are Woo and live in Montreal AND speak Spanish and French...that's why....but mostly because you are Woo... ;D
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: trab on September 28, 2007, 05:22:26 AM
But you are Woo and live in Montreal AND speak Spanish and French...that's why....but mostly because you are Woo... ;D

Power hooks in the PLing cage. You'll Like.
http://www.prowriststraps.com/power_hooks_dumbbell_power_hook
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: coltrane on October 09, 2007, 01:52:28 PM
quit being a pusssy and do barbell presses, db presses are for the girls.


wow.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: Deicide on October 09, 2007, 09:23:14 PM

wow.

I like them because my left side is weaker and thus it has to work more...better overall...my feeling...
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: WOOO on October 10, 2007, 04:02:05 AM
But you are Woo and live in Montreal AND speak Spanish and French...that's why....but mostly because you are Woo... ;D

agreed...
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: WhiteCastle on October 10, 2007, 11:42:13 AM
barbell's dont give you size db's can

This is true.  When I switched over from the barbell to dumbell, I could no longer find shirts that fit.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: The Squadfather on October 10, 2007, 01:32:54 PM
This is true.  When I switched over from the barbell to dumbell, I could no longer find shirts that fit.  ;D
hahahahahahhaa, ok so you're saying that a pair of 85 pound db's is going to give you more size than 250 plus on seated barbell presses?
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: wrestle@145 on October 10, 2007, 02:06:53 PM
i think hes just saying that you can get more growth from a better feel/range of motion with less weight i.e. dbs than a heavy as set of seated bb presses. i mean not everyone has to lift heavy ass weight to get jacked.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: The Squadfather on October 10, 2007, 03:49:38 PM
i think hes just saying that you can get more growth from a better feel/range of motion with less weight i.e. dbs than a heavy as set of seated bb presses. i mean not everyone has to lift heavy ass weight to get jacked.
::)
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on October 10, 2007, 08:10:07 PM
i mean not everyone has to lift heavy ass weight to get jacked.

With that kind of attitude, it's no wonder you are a skinny weakling who is a complete failure at everything you do in life. ;)
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: Charlys69 on October 11, 2007, 07:16:08 AM
For heavy dumbells shoulder presses i need 2 spotters to give me the second dumbell. The first dumbell (mostly right side) i get up easy with the help of my free hand. Immediatly after i have the first dumbell in position, the 2 spotters (for 1 it`s to hard... ::)) give me the other dumbell to my free hand.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: The Squadfather on October 11, 2007, 07:41:19 AM
For heavy dumbells shoulder presses i need 2 spotters to give me the second dumbell. The first dumbell (mostly right side) i get up easy with the help of my free hand. Immediatly after i have the first dumbell in position, the 2 spotters (for 1 it`s to hard... ::)) give me the other dumbell to my free hand.
::)
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: MidniteRambo on October 11, 2007, 08:17:11 AM
One of the few exercises I can do at work.  I keep a 60lb DB, 70lb DB and 80lb DB on my boodkself (you should see the gouges! I'm sure my law firm will make me pay for it some day).  I do them one-armed, usually three sets:

26 X 60
17 X 70
11 X 80

The form isn't perfect and the reps are admittedly too high, but being able to do a couple sets during work time makes it beneficial for me from a time perspective.

Okay, to respond to the question, I swing the DB (again one armed) to shoulder level, as if doing a curl. Then I press upwards using the other arm to help raise it to full extension (I don't count this as a rep).  Then I slowly lower it with one arm.  Then, I start the set.  After so many reps, when the form starts getting too bad, I stop, so as to avoid injury.



Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: trab on October 12, 2007, 04:42:17 AM
One of the few exercises I can do at work.  I keep a 60lb DB, 70lb DB and 80lb DB on my boodkself (you should see the gouges! I'm sure my law firm will make me pay for it some day).  I do them one-armed, usually three sets:

26 X 60
17 X 70
11 X 80

The form isn't perfect and the reps are admittedly too high, but being able to do a couple sets during work time makes it beneficial for me from a time perspective.

Okay, to respond to the question, I swing the DB (again one armed) to shoulder level, as if doing a curl. Then I press upwards using the other arm to help raise it to full extension (I don't count this as a rep).  Then I slowly lower it with one arm.  Then, I start the set.  After so many reps, when the form starts getting too bad, I stop, so as to avoid injury.





They let you get away w/ DBs in your Office?  ;D
Nice.
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: peroni on October 12, 2007, 05:22:45 AM
should be no problem, put em on your thighs as you sit down on the bench and "kick em up" in combination with pressing them to position.

when the dumbbells get really heavy you can have someone hand them to you.


or: lower the weight.

Exactly. Engage the core and keep your feet planted nicely for stability. If it's too much, lighten up
Title: Re: Anyone else have problems hoisting the dumbbells up for shoulder press?
Post by: MidniteRambo on October 12, 2007, 09:23:44 AM
They let you get away w/ DBs in your Office?  ;D
Nice.

I'm sure the firm's worker's comp insurer would have a fit if they knew!

I still wait for the day they say "no more,"