Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: dearth on September 29, 2007, 03:37:29 AM

Title: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: dearth on September 29, 2007, 03:37:29 AM
and unlike most on this board, these people were actually there (sitting in the front row)

from flexonline forums

Shawn Perine
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Dennis Wolf
5. Melvin Anthony
6. Silvio Samuel


Chris Cormier
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Ronnie Coleman
5. Melvin Anthony
6. Dennis Wolf

Allan Donnelly
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Melvin Anthony
5. Ronnie Coleman
6. Dennis Wolf

Dan Solomon
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Melvin Anthony
5. Dennis Wolf
6. Ronnie Coleman
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: divcom on September 29, 2007, 03:40:55 AM
Dont have to be there.  Been there before.  This line up sucks.  You've got top 5 guys that look bad.  Melvin or Wolf could win on waist alone.  I'd give it to Ronnie just for showing up this yr. 
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: JasonH on September 29, 2007, 03:46:35 AM
Wow - interesting to see that Ronnie barely makes the top seven in most of those predictions.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: 20inch calves on September 29, 2007, 06:51:32 AM
i agree. even a little off jay still looks better than victor
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Mobil on September 29, 2007, 06:56:22 AM
i believe he said he was "retiring"  for a sympathy win then retire... doesnt look like its gonna happen... he was the best of all time when he was at his best though.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: HERACLES on September 29, 2007, 07:26:32 AM
Wow, ROnnie is out of the top 5!!  He should of never announced the retirement...maybe folks just look at him as washed up..its mental..
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: jaejonna on September 29, 2007, 07:39:28 AM
All the top guys have something missing...

Vic is soft in the stomach ..kinda
Dex isnt that big
Wolf need a bigger back ..kinda
Cutler is off like a dark room
Ronnie is three years past his prime
Melvin needs 25-30 pds of muscle

Note on Dex...notice how hie quads are more seperated this year..as opposed to the last three years. Good improvement.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: jaejonna on September 29, 2007, 07:40:25 AM
looks like gustavo lost the 'wow' factor from posing too early.....if he would just wait a day or two.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on September 29, 2007, 07:42:15 AM
From comparison pics i still think Ronnie should be in contention, especially over Jay and Victor.

Romano and Flex both said it, and you know they would be biased towards Victor as he writes in MD.

But i don't think it will happen.

Wolfe should win anyway, Ronnie second IMO but it's probably going to be Jay in 1st and Victor 2nd.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2007, 07:44:05 AM
In my opinion its between Jay and Vic , Vic is tighter in the glutes and the quads from the side I think it could go either way but they old saying applies you have to knock the champ out and Vic while good isn't knocking Jay out ! Jay is off from last year if Vic had Dexter's conditioning he's be lights out for Jay !

Flex Wheeler has Ronnie first lol what the fuck is he thinking? Ronnie couldn't hold his own with Wolf nevermind Jay & Vic
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Blockhead on September 29, 2007, 07:44:26 AM
From comparison pics i still think Ronnie should be in contention, especially over Jay and Victor.

Romano and Flex both said it, and you know they would be biased towards Victor as he writes in MD.

But i don't think it will happen.

Wolfe should win anyway, Ronnie second IMO but it's probably going to be Jay in 1st and Victor 2nd.
Let me just correct you for a second...Victor is paid by MD to use his images. He doesn't write for them as a ghost writer does all of that.

 True Story!

 On that note...watch for MD to drop Gustavo's contract like a bad habit.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: jaejonna on September 29, 2007, 07:45:58 AM
maybe Jay is going to tighten up for when he wins... thus prejudging he doesnt have to worry
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on September 29, 2007, 07:47:46 AM
Let me just correct you for a second...Victor is paid by MD to use his images. He doesn't write for them as a ghost writer does all of that.

 True Story!

 On that note...watch for MD to drop Gustavo's contract like a bad habit.

Are you telling me the pro's don't write their own columns?  ;D
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on September 29, 2007, 07:48:36 AM
Members of Team Coleman can't be happy about reading that.

They're in denial.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 29, 2007, 08:10:59 AM
In my opinion its between Jay and Vic , Vic is tighter in the glutes and the quads from the side I think it could go either way but they old saying applies you have to knock the champ out and Vic while good isn't knocking Jay out ! Jay is off from last year if Vic had Dexter's conditioning he's be lights out for Jay !

Flex Wheeler has Ronnie first lol what the fuck is he thinking? Ronnie couldn't hold his own with Wolf nevermind Jay & Vic

While I had never really been a fan during his competative days, I now long for the days of Yates.  He'd wipe the floor with the line up last night.  And yes, Flex is out to lunch.  Stick a fork in Ronnie, he's done.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Stavios on September 29, 2007, 08:26:40 AM
Flexonline can suck my cock !!!

Vic and dex both look better than jay

someone post an abs shot  ::)
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Deicide on September 29, 2007, 08:32:02 AM
Flexonline can suck my cock !!!

Vic and dex both look better than jay

someone post an abs shot  ::)

Vic looked like shit too, especially his abs...
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: dearth on September 29, 2007, 08:33:28 AM
its funny how the "experts" on this thread can judge better from a webcast than the flex magazine writers who are
actually there...
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: The Squadfather on September 29, 2007, 08:34:56 AM
its funny how the "experts" on this thread can judge better from a webcast than the flex magazine writers who are
actually there...
you tell 'em "dearth". ::)
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: corinth on September 29, 2007, 08:35:08 AM
Worst Mr. Olympia ever.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Darth Muscle on September 29, 2007, 08:35:49 AM
Flexonline can suck my cock !!!

Vic and dex both look better than jay

someone post an abs shot  ::)


Ron should take away your stars for that dumb-ass comment.  Jay is clearly the winner with Vic  the "Convicted Felon", second.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Karl Kox on September 29, 2007, 08:39:19 AM
there is no fucking way Jay should win.  He is smooth as hell.

1) Dex
2)Vic
3) Jay
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Darth Muscle on September 29, 2007, 08:40:40 AM
there is no fucking way Jay should win.  He is smooth as hell.

1) Dex
2)Vic
3) Jay


Dex???? He looks the same as he does every show he does.  Too little.  Just ask Shawn Ray.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Stavios on September 29, 2007, 08:41:26 AM
its funny how the "experts" on this thread can judge better from a webcast than the flex magazine writers who are
actually there...

Yeah man you are totally right, I am sure Jay's 45 inches waist looked better onstage than on photos   ;)
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: j3di3 on September 29, 2007, 08:44:43 AM
honestly i dont think jay should win, he looks like shit, ugly physique.
this "show" (not even a contest) is pathetic, everybody look crap this year.
what happened to stirations and vascularity, they look like they are filled with water
where are physiques like these:

even dex doesnt look as ripped as he used to be
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: The Coach on September 29, 2007, 09:16:56 AM
and unlike most on this board, these people were actually there (sitting in the front row)

from flexonline forums

Shawn Perine
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Dennis Wolf
5. Melvin Anthony
6. Silvio Samuel


Chris Cormier
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Ronnie Coleman
5. Melvin Anthony
6. Dennis Wolf

Allan Donnelly
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Melvin Anthony
5. Ronnie Coleman
6. Dennis Wolf

Dan Solomon
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Melvin Anthony
5. Dennis Wolf
6. Ronnie Coleman

Jay shouldn't be anywhere on any of those predictions, that's a bias list and they damn well know it. Shawn (Perine) being an old school guy, you damn well know Jay doesn't belong!!
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: corinth on September 29, 2007, 09:20:04 AM
Of course Flex has Jay winning.  Jay's an AMI guy.

You think they'd have Vic winning?

Come on, get real.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: phyxsius on September 29, 2007, 09:21:52 AM
never trust pics from flexonline
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: The Coach on September 29, 2007, 09:23:09 AM
Of course Flex has Jay winning.  Jay's an AMI guy.

You think they'd have Vic winning?

Come on, get real.

Yep....like i said over and over again, It's in they're contracts, Jay will win and not because he deserves it!!
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: dearth on September 29, 2007, 11:00:11 AM
the fact that they have Jay winning is not surprising as it is likely to happen as the incumbent,
its where they have ronnie that is somewhat different to other predictions

Of course Flex has Jay winning.  Jay's an AMI guy.

You think they'd have Vic winning?

Come on, get real.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Captain Slin on September 29, 2007, 11:04:46 AM
heres the difference between those guys and most people on this board.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEYRE TALKING ABOUT.

Although I would have wolf higher they must be seeing something in person that we cant through pictures and webcast.

im sticking by my top 6.

1.cutler
2.wolf
3.martinez.
4 dexter jackson
5 anthony
6 coleman.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Captain Slin on September 29, 2007, 11:06:55 AM
Yep....like i said over and over again, It's in they're contracts, Jay will win and not because he deserves it!!

why would chris cormier put jay first if its fixed?

chris cormier???
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: FreedomFighter on September 29, 2007, 11:27:08 AM
if jay win - it is just a waist of time to watch mr.o...
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: The Coach on September 29, 2007, 11:35:39 AM
why would chris cormier put jay first if its fixed?

chris cormier???

Why would anyone have Jay in the top 5 if it wasn't?
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: Special Ed on September 29, 2007, 11:36:24 AM
why would chris cormier put jay first if its fixed?

chris cormier???
Duh. Muscletech and Weider, dumbass.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 29, 2007, 11:42:30 AM
How can any of them have Coleman higher than Wolf, when Wolf absolutely destroyed Coleman standing next to him?


This is probably closest to reality, although I wouldn't have Silvio in the top 6:

Quote
Shawn Perine
1. Jay Cutler
2. Victor Martinez
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Dennis Wolf
5. Melvin Anthony
6. Silvio Samuel
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: bizzy on September 29, 2007, 12:31:42 PM
What surprises me is that Shawn Perine is very into the iron
age type physique and Jay Cutlers structure is about as far
away from that ideal as possible. All the guys he has under Jay
have much better bodybuilding structures. The one thing that saves Jay
as a bodybuilder are that his clavicles are some of the widest in bodybuilding.
Besides that he has the structure of a powerlifter, football player, ect.
Title: Re: Flexonline has Jay winning, Victor 2nd
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on September 29, 2007, 01:35:05 PM
This is how I see it.

1.Jay Cutler (Huge, with great proportion relative to size, vaccum pose despite monstrous mass)
2.Gustavo Baddel (Looks like a smaller Cutler)
3.Melvin Anthony (great aesthetics; a bigger Arnold)
4.Dexter Jackson (starting to look sloppy; nasty gut)
5.Ronnie Coleman (big and ugly)
6.Markus Ruhl (bigger and uglier)
7.Dennis Wolf (good conditioning)
8.Victor Martinez (smooth swimmer)
9.Tony Freeman (who cares?)
10.Darrem Charles (" ")