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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Mr. Cortisol on September 30, 2007, 08:53:53 PM
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Me: yes.
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Me too...
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Me: yes.
I don't think he should have won but i think people are making the mistake of taking their hate out on jay. Jay had no control over his placement. I respect Jay, i just think Wolfe was better.
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nobody hates Jay. we're just disappointed w the IFBB
and now we're disappointed w bb.com and Olympia organizers for casually deciding to not present Wolf w the fan's choice award on stage. please post in that thread to register your disapproval. 8)
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wolf all the way.... the guy should do the arnold classic, if he doesn't win there, something's very wrong with bodybuilding.......... well it already is, but hey we never know.... right :-\
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Everyone knows how the system works, Cutler was going to win no matter what.
Cutler wasn't even close to the best physique on stage but that's not really the point since he was the chosen one.
BTW, Cutler running away from Wolf was disgraceful. Have fun shaving tomorrow Gutler after that act of cowardice.
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figuratively speaking (and only figuratively speaking), jay was rather gutless.
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I actually thought jay made an improvement from last year as his waist line was better but everyone said he looked worse. JMHO
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I actually thought jay made an improvement from last year as his waist line was better but everyone said he looked worse. JMHO
maybe people might have noticed if there wasn't a bigger man w a far smaller waist stalking him as he ran . . .
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YES
I can just imagine Wieder and team in a huddle trying to plot out Jay's fixed victory. It's sickening how Wolf didn't get the chance to compare himself to Jay or Martinez.
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Dennis makes jay look small in that picture :D
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Yeah i agree with the others, i don't hate Jay, where he placed came down to the judges, i'm just pissed off with the whole judging system. I wonder how Lee Priest feels about the show?
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Here is the few comparisons Wolf managed to chase down.
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its real sad. wolfe, dex and vic were better than jay.
too bad jay will win next year too, im sure they will give him a gift #3, since he said hes retiring. lame.
its funny how they kept saying to vote for the fans choice award, which was conveniently never done. ::)
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I can just imagine Wieder and team in a huddle trying to plot out Jay's fixed victory. It's sickening how Wolf didn't get the chance to compare himself to Jay or Martinez.
Joe and Ben Weider has no involvement in fixing the placing.
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Joe and Ben Weider has no involvement in fixing the placing.
sure they didnt.
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No. And I don't think Wolf should have one either. It should be a requirement that contestants need a complete package.
Wolf has as bad as calves as a black guy (sans Dillet). Jay's conditioning was off.
I'd rather have Ronnie Rockell as champion because he's complete and has great lines and would have mass marketing appeal. The dude is always in shape and gets screwed every time he enters a US show.
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Booooooooooom!
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sure they didnt.
Believe me, Joe and Ben has no involvement. They don`t own the publication anymore.
And there was no athletes on stage representing Weider Nutrition.
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wolf was ready yesterday to become the champ it should have gpne to either vic dex or wolfe
jason won because he is a little thicker,,the muscles from within are a little thicker than the rest of the gang,,due to muscle thicness in couple parts and oil in other,,,neverthe less jason should NOT have won this one based on quality and size combo,,jason would never win this show if it was in the 80s 90s in ,,reason he won was because he is still the thickest but i ask you what is thick has to do with anything when looking soft and smooth? being a little thicker is not always the best unless you can bring condition 90-100%,,jason was not even close to top 3 condition this year and he knows it,,its all talk anyhow the books will be saying jason 2007 mr o and that is what counts in 20 years no matter if it was ok decision or not,,he still top 5 bodybuilder at any givern time beside yesterday ;)
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wolf was ready yesterday to become the champ it should have gpne to either vic dex or wolfe
jason won because he is a little thicker,,the muscles from within are a little thicker than the rest of the gang,,due to muscle thicness in couple parts and oil in other,,,neverthe less jason should NOT have won this one based on quality and size combo,,jason would never win this show if it was in the 80s 90s in ,,reason he won was because he is still the thickest but i ask you what is thick has to do with anything when looking soft and smooth? being a little thicker is not always the best unless you can bring condition 90-100%,,jason was not even close to top 3 condition this year and he knows it,,its all talk anyhow the books will be saying jason 2007 mr o and that is what counts in 20 years no matter if it was ok decision or not,,he still top 5 bodybuilder at any givern time beside yesterday ;)
gh15 what was wrong with Jays left shoulder? doesnt look normal. swollen. bad injection or just synthol overuse?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=172219.0;attach=199815;image)
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I am :(
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How can any IFBB judge justify placing Wolfe SO low ??!!!!!!! ALL judging criterias were ignored. Wolfe beat Jay on:-
1) EVERY pose
2) Size & Symmetry
3) Conditioning
4) Posing Routine
I missed the end - Was their booing ??!!
Official result for me:-
1st Wolfe - For All above reasons
2nd Coleman - Was not Ronnie of old, but still much better than Jay and made him look SMOOTH
3rd Cutler - A gift, prob should be even lower
4th Martinez - Wasn't anywhere near his best
5th Jackson - Nowhere near his best
All in all a poor show and a well under par line up .....
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Yep ,i never felt Jay should ever win a Mr.O title, but after seeing it this year, it is just ridiculous.
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jay can never get dry. its a fact. only year was back on 2001. look at the pics. its genes for him.... some people cant get dry. thats the year when failed the test for lasix
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No. And I don't think Wolf should have one either. It should be a requirement that contestants need a complete package.
Wolf has as bad as calves as a black guy (sans Dillet). Jay's conditioning was off.
I'd rather have Ronnie Rockell as champion because he's complete and has great lines and would have mass marketing appeal. The dude is always in shape and gets screwed every time he enters a US show.
aahaha are you retarded...first of all its "won" not one
second of all dillet had some of the biggest calves in the history of the sport you retard
ronnie rockell is a midget and can't speak english....his mass market appeal ends there
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Apart from the one error, sans actually means without.
You're the pot calling the kettle black shithead.
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its obvious to everyone that jay wasnt even top 5.
ronnie wasnt even top 8.
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He could have come in in a wheelchair and he would have won.
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YES I AM DISGUSTED AT THIS RESULT.
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YES I AM DISGUSTED AT THIS RESULT.
thats my line: jay olive oil cutler ;)
also dont forget Jay "Veinless Steel" Cutler.
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We should boycot this piece of oil.
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I think Jay would be the first to admit that he shouldn't have won - pics don't lie and he is a stand up guy.
Not only am I disgusted with this result (and I'm a Jay fan) but why should we be surprised?? This has been happening for years - With Dorian, Haney and don't forget the gifts that Coleman got as well.
I won't be following this crap any more - Wolf should have won and Ronnie shouldn't have been in the top 5. Cutler should have been 4th behind Victor, Dex and Wolf.
They had a chance to gain a ton of credibility here (the IFBB) and for whatever reasons, they blew it.
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I think Jay would be the first to admit that he shouldn't have won - pics don't lie and he is a stand up guy.
Not only am I disgusted with this result (and I'm a Jay fan) but why should we be surprised?? This has been happening for years - With Dorian, Haney and don't forget the gifts that Coleman got as well.
I won't be following this crap any more - Wolf should have won and Ronnie shouldn't have been in the top 5. Cutler should have been 4th behind Victor, Dex and Wolf.
They had a chance to gain a ton of credibility here (the IFBB) and for whatever reasons, they blew it.
i agree with everything you said. dorian won the mr o once. jay has never won it. i wont be following the crap either.
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jay is a standup comedian.
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yes, i'm disgusted
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I am disgusted and i want to stop watching bodybuilding as a result of it. I fuckin hate this "sport" this was the worst in history.
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I am disgusted and i want to stop watching bodybuilding as a result of it. I fuckin hate this "sport" this was the worst in history.
focus on training, discussing training, bodybuilding pre 2000 and porn.
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focus on training, discussing training, bodybuilding pre 2000 and porn.
you got to admit. Dude even when arnold was given his gift in 80...he still looked damn good. Same goes for a few of the ronnie gifts. he was too big and cut to ignore...but this shit..he actually ran from the guy because he knew wolf was better....instead of taking his whoopin like a man he ran because he knew when the pictures came out if him posing next to wolf the world would see....also i hate how they fucked wolf out of $160k. They dont reward hard work at all and i will never spend money on anything that has to do with bodybuilding again.
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you got to admit. Dude even when arnold was given his gift in 80...he still looked damn good. Same goes for a few of the ronnie gifts. he was too big and cut to ignore...but this shit..he actually ran from the guy because he knew wolf was better....instead of taking his whoopin like a man he ran because he knew when the pictures came out if him posing next to wolf the world would see....also i hate how they fucked wolf out of $160k. They dont reward hard work at all and i will never spend money on anything that has to do with bodybuilding again.
wolf should sue the IFBB.
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wolf should sue the IFBB.
oh wow. i never thought of that...
this is sickening. completley and utterly sickening. They need to do a background check on these "judges" and see if they had a jump in their bank accounts from muscletech..
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oh wow. i never thought of that...
this is sickening. completley and utterly sickening. They need to do a background check on these "judges" and see if they had a jump in their bank accounts from muscletech..
yeah i want the names of the judges posted on this site so we can check who these corrupted bastards are.
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I am disgusted and i want to stop watching bodybuilding as a result of it. I fuckin hate this "sport" this was the worst in history.
It was awful.....these guys had a whole year to prep for this (well, most of them) and they came in looking like shit. I'm really shocked that Cutler came in looking like he did. I think he made too many appearances or something and never caught up.
Who the hell knows - bottom line is that he should have lost.
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It was awful.....these guys had a whole year to prep for this (well, most of them) and they came in looking like shit. I'm really shocked that Cutler came in looking like he did. I think he made too many appearances or something and never caught up.
Who the hell knows - bottom line is that he should have lost.
thats probably a factor...but i think alot of it has to do with the drugs..they cant be as ripped with all the drugs they inject...specially not after years of abuse.
nasser was ripped in the 90s and used loads of shit but he couldnt be on top for more than 3-4 years. (95-99..his best years)
its the same thing now.... all the drugs cut down the number of years they can get in good condition and have that crispness.
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Yes! For some reason, the judges totally messed it up this time, and on several placings...
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Yes! For some reason, the judges totally messed it up this time, and on several placings...
FixtheOtech
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Just read under my avatar >:(
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They had a chance to gain a ton of credibility here (the IFBB) and for whatever reasons, they blew it.
I agree with that, but sadly, they've NEVER really seized the opportunity to gain credibility, so I guess the joke is on us for expecting any different this year. This year was the perfect opportunity, as Ronnie Coleman was WAY off, so any sentimentality in his case was a non-factor, and Jay was WAY off as well (and in fact continues to get progressively worse). It's like you can't have a one-time Mr. O because Jay's a nice guy and "good" representative and the Mr. O doesn't work like that or something. It's sad really, as this is supposed to be the premiere no hold barred contest in the world where only the best are supposed to try and achieve their best, and it really doesn't matter, as the best man simply doesn't and can't win. If it weren't for suspension-city, I'd love to see the majority of guys boycott the contest next year to finally get a damned change in the way things are done.