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Title: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Squadfather on October 01, 2007, 04:58:05 PM
INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

 :o discuss.
Title: Re: INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on October 01, 2007, 04:58:54 PM
:o discuss.
Nahhh, its GH
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: D.L. 5 on October 01, 2007, 05:03:36 PM
dude. that is perfection.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Squadfather on October 01, 2007, 05:04:01 PM
dude. that is perfection.
damn right.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: D.L. 5 on October 01, 2007, 05:06:21 PM
damn right.

it also makes me realise how my genetics suck ass
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: the choad on October 01, 2007, 05:06:42 PM
perfection, no weaknesses at all...
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: trailbreaker on October 01, 2007, 05:09:02 PM
Just remember that a guy with one arm and a bloated stomach beat that "perfect physique" in 1994.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: D.L. 5 on October 01, 2007, 05:10:10 PM
on second look at that pic i say.........

Shawn Ray you are amazing
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Squadfather on October 01, 2007, 05:11:53 PM
scary thing is that picure cuts off arguably his best bodypart, his quads.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: EL Mariachi on October 01, 2007, 05:12:24 PM
INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

 :o discuss.


priest had him beat
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2007, 05:12:30 PM
perfection, no weaknesses at all...

No weaknesses? high calves lack of clavicle width , height very nice physique but he has weaknesses  .
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: knny187 on October 01, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
bump for Guru's

Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Squadfather on October 01, 2007, 05:13:21 PM
No weaknesses? high calves lack of clavicle width , height very nice physique but he has weaknesses  .
none of which he can control.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: D.L. 5 on October 01, 2007, 05:14:26 PM
No weaknesses? high calves lack of clavicle width , height very nice physique but he has weaknesses  .

shawn's calves were great especially for a black bb
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on October 01, 2007, 05:15:08 PM
Nein, das ist perfekt. Deutchland uber alles!
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Coach on October 01, 2007, 05:16:53 PM
INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

 :o discuss.

I couldn't agree more. The thing is, in Shawns best shape without insulin, ANY of those guys on this past Olympia stage couldn't touch Shawn, or anyone from the 90's for that matter. Rumor has it, from very reliable sources, that Shawn didn't use GH as well. Not sure though....maybe Shawn can confirm.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Squadfather on October 01, 2007, 05:18:10 PM
I couldn't agree more. The thing is, in Shawns best shape without insulin, ANY of those guys on this past Olympia stage couldn't touch Shawn, or anyone from the 90's for that matter. Rumor has it, from very reliable sources, that Shawn didn't use GH as well. Not sure though....maybe Shawn can confirm.
he probably used a little GH but insulin................. ...no fuccking way, physique was way too good and he seems too smart for that.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: WEAPONX on October 01, 2007, 05:20:51 PM
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INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

  discuss.




And that is a shame, but who is at fault the judges or the competitors? Shawn Ray was dammed near perfection .
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: D.L. 5 on October 01, 2007, 05:21:11 PM
he probably used a little GH but insulin................. ...no fuccking way, physique was way too good and he seems too smart for that.

nah you all have it wrong, he used Vince G's Caliber Fitness Bee Pollen
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2007, 05:21:40 PM
shawn's calves were great especially for a black bb

No they weren't great , he did an excellent job despite what nature dished out but see Vince Taylor , Paul Dillett , Sergio Oliva , Chris Dickerson , Aaron Baker , Thierry Pastel for great calves for any bodybuilder .
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: pumpster on October 01, 2007, 05:22:13 PM
dude. that is perfection.

Wheeler wins over Ray, he was drier, deeper cuts and bigger, but he was good.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2007, 05:24:38 PM
none of which he can control.

What does that have to do with anything? competitive bodybuilding is the sport of the genetic elite !
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: TooPowerful4u on October 01, 2007, 05:27:13 PM
INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

 :o discuss.

awesome physique and did not ABUSE anything... but i am pretty damn sure hes used slin and GH bro..... hate to break it to ya... hes smart about his use
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: Weightpit on October 01, 2007, 05:28:17 PM
INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

 :o discuss.

Holy crap - totall agree.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: knny187 on October 01, 2007, 05:51:29 PM
I couldn't agree more. The thing is, in Shawns best shape without insulin, ANY of those guys on this past Olympia stage couldn't touch Shawn, or anyone from the 90's for that matter. Rumor has it, from very reliable sources, that Shawn didn't use GH as well. Not sure though....maybe Shawn can confirm.

I doubt he did
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: rccs on October 01, 2007, 06:00:53 PM

priest had him beat
Levrone had him beat
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: muscularny on October 01, 2007, 06:12:16 PM
i bet he used slin gh etc but with control
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Coach on October 01, 2007, 06:16:00 PM
he probably used a little GH but insulin................. ...no fuccking way, physique was way too good and he seems too smart for that.

I remember Milos saying that Shawn never used insulin.....but again, not sure about GH though, but was told he didn't use it.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: candidizzle on October 01, 2007, 06:18:41 PM
gh is also one of the main factors in distended abdomens. enlarges the intestines..
also, visceral fat from over "bulking" in the offseason, and slin usage.
im also partial to believe that there is a little truth in john romano's theory that the massive amounts of food bodybuilders consume stretches out the stomach. just a little bit though.

Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: Ozzy on October 01, 2007, 06:21:37 PM
One look at a distended gut can tell you that it isn't just the stomach growing, it's the small intestine as well.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: The Coach on October 01, 2007, 06:27:59 PM
gh is also one of the main factors in distended abdomens. enlarges the intestines..


I don't use GH and never have.....but I don't buy that, give me some research to back it up, because all the research I've read said nothing about that.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: candidizzle on October 01, 2007, 06:31:28 PM
I don't use GH and never have.....but I don't buy that, give me some research to back it up, because all the research I've read said nothing about that.
this is just what a guy who used to copete that works at my gym told me. ...he was a top level npc competitor, but he got injured...showed me pics..was pretty big..    btu anyways, he said that he used gh, and it maade his stomach distend, and every body else did too. he said matarzzo only got a distended gut once he started buying gh from him. (matarazzo lives in the next town over)
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: bigdumbbell on October 01, 2007, 07:22:02 PM
I couldn't agree more. The thing is, in Shawns best shape without insulin, ANY of those guys on this past Olympia stage couldn't touch Shawn, or anyone from the 90's for that matter. Rumor has it, from very reliable sources, that Shawn didn't use GH as well. Not sure though....maybe Shawn can confirm.
ha  no, he dont lie but he sure can spread rumors   LOL
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 01, 2007, 07:48:02 PM
INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

 :o discuss.

  I pointed out this in a thread a week ago or so, that insulin blurrs out conditioning because it increases glycogen synthesis inside the muscles and thus causes water retention, but lots of morons laughed at me. Insulin makes your muscles super-full but also super-soft. If you want to see an insulin body, look no further than the current Mr.Olympia and Jean-Pierre Fux during his competitive years. Guys with very hard muscles, like Dorian or shawn Ray up to 1996, never used insulin. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: haider on October 01, 2007, 07:49:56 PM
  I pointed out this in a thread a week ago or so, that insulin blurrs out conditioning because it increases glycogen synthesis inside the muscles and thus causes water retention, but lots of morons laughed at me. Insulin makes your muscles super-full but also super-soft. If you want to see an insulin body, look no further than the current Mr.Olympia and Jean-Pierre Fux during his competitive years. Guys with very hard muscles, like Dorian or shawn Ray up to 1996, never used insulin. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
alright, we got it..
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on October 01, 2007, 07:52:22 PM
dude. that is perfection.

Yep.  I've always been a big fan of Ray's physique, which compared to the trash you see on today's stages represents the "classical" physique I think.  I'd also put Levrone at his best near the same level.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: no one on October 01, 2007, 07:53:44 PM
 
 Guys with very hard muscles, like Dorian or shawn Ray up to 1996, never used insulin. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you dont know what you are talking about. again.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 01, 2007, 08:08:05 PM
you dont know what you are talking about. again.

  Yes, I do. I can spot an insulin body from a mile away, and let me tell you that Dorian didn't have it. He was a classical sauce&GH guy. You'll have to trust me on this one, since I'm a bodybuilding expert. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: haider on October 01, 2007, 08:16:08 PM
  Yes, I do. I can spot an insulin body from a mile away, and let me tell you that Dorian didn't have it. He was a classical sauce&GH guy. You'll have to trust me on this one, since I'm a bodybuilding expert. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Why are u nto partaking in the mr getbig against Neosperminole, suckmyasshole?
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 01, 2007, 08:19:02 PM
Why are u nto partaking in the mr getbig against Neosperminole, suckmyasshole?

  Dorian Yates is better than Ronnie Coleman! :D

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: haider on October 01, 2007, 08:19:59 PM
  Dorian Yates is better than Ronnie Coleman! :D

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Sorry I dont speak handicapped.

What was that again?  :D
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 01, 2007, 08:20:22 PM
  It is amazing that there are stupid fucks in this board who dare to argue with a bodybuilding expert like myself. What a crazy World... ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: haider on October 01, 2007, 08:21:08 PM
 It is amazing that there are stupid fucks in this board who dare to argue with a bodybuilding expert like myself. What a crazy World... ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
haha seems like ure the only one sucking your muscle around here..
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 01, 2007, 08:29:43 PM
haha seems like ure the only one sucking your muscle around here..

  Wrong.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: haider on October 01, 2007, 08:33:23 PM
  Wrong.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Where are u from in europe?
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 02, 2007, 03:35:56 AM
  Yes, I do. I can spot an insulin body from a mile away, and let me tell you that Dorian didn't have it. He was a classical sauce&GH guy. You'll have to trust me on this one, since I'm a bodybuilding expert. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Ok, did Munzer use insulin? Oh yes, yes he did.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: New Hank Wood on October 02, 2007, 03:42:35 AM
Insulin must be bodybuilders most despicable friend.  It has a reputation for destroying one's healthful-state.

Milos claims to be the 'Godfather of Insulin'.  Yes, it is a big claim.  Milos has made a career out of 'big claims'.

Milos, please stop ruining physiques.  Isn't being known as '' The Most Hated Man In Bodybuilding'' a brutal-clue for you to move on from this so-called sport?

Wake up Milos; the IFBB will never forgive you for you brutal indescetions!
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: Gino30 on October 02, 2007, 06:22:39 AM
INSULIN IS THE REASON YOU'LL NEVER SEE BODIES LIKE THIS AGAIN!!!!!

 :o discuss.

sluuuuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp ppppppp

You still tucking into those Ben and Jerrys tubs?.........huh fat-teeeeeeeeeee?
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: Bobby on October 02, 2007, 06:25:40 AM
I couldn't agree more. The thing is, in Shawns best shape without insulin, ANY of those guys on this past Olympia stage couldn't touch Shawn, or anyone from the 90's for that matter. Rumor has it, from very reliable sources, that Shawn didn't use GH as well. Not sure though....maybe Shawn can confirm.

Probably true, he has that oldschool look. probably only used test+dbol etc... none of that new crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 03, 2007, 02:44:56 AM
Ok, did Munzer use insulin? Oh yes, yes he did.

  You can have lots of subcutnaeous water and still be striated because just like in the case of muscular separations there is a genetic component. however, you cannot be super-hard while using insulin.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: gh15 on October 03, 2007, 03:23:48 AM
  You can have lots of subcutnaeous water and still be striated because just like in the case of muscular separations there is a genetic component. however, you cannot be super-hard while using insulin.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

100% correct,,drop slin usage on right time if want hardness to be better,,
no insulin use = harder physiqe tighter physiqe,,not always more quality..that depends on other factors too
the less you can get by the better you will be,,if you can grow to the top with out it props to you,,pros and many amatuers  now days and a lot before now days use slin to a lesser degree in 80s to a crazy degree now

insulin give you thickness and fulness as simple as that,,you got to know very well what you do with insulin or have someone who does if you want to be able to dial it in,,takes time and experience and even when you have lots of it you still can end up like kamali experiemtn gone wrong or even jason couple days ago,,the people champion wolf :D use it right and respond to it well,,dex too,,some just dont
Title: Re: Insulin is the reason you'll never see bodies like Shawn Ray's again!
Post by: pumpster on October 03, 2007, 04:59:09 AM
It's fairly obvious that slin's the different in the last 10 years or so, has been made clear before by gh15 and various guys on the roid board that it's the gh/slin cocktail that is the problem, not gh & roids.

It's a fairly obvious connection as can be seen by looking at the progression in physique development over the years. The last 10 years has seen more size and less dryness.

Hopefully in future slin as it's used now will be like very bad fake boobs and become passe.