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No love for an atheist president? :)
Groups criticize McCain for calling U.S. 'Christian nation'
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Muslim and Jewish groups on Monday sharply criticized Sen. John McCain's comments that he would prefer a Christian president to lead the United States.
GOP presidential hopeful Sen. John McCain campaigns Sunday in Derry, New Hampshire.
The Arizona Republican's remarks came in an interview with Beliefnet, a Web site that covers religious issues and affairs.
"I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles, personally, I prefer someone who has a grounding in my faith," the GOP presidential hopeful told the Web site in an interview published Saturday.
McCain also said he agreed with a recent poll that 55 percent of Americans believe the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation. "I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation," he said.
On Sunday night, McCain sought to clarify his remarks while campaigning in Hollis, New Hampshire. "What I do mean to say is the United States of America was founded on the values of Judeo-Christian values, which were translated by our founding fathers which is basically the rights of human dignity and human rights," he said.
"I believe that anyone can be president of the United States of any faith," McCain said, saying he was angry his remarks were misinterpreted but "there's nothing I can do about it."
Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said McCain's comments failed to recognize that Christianity is not the only faith with beliefs that support the concept of human rights.
"Sorry, Islam and other faiths have their basis in human dignity," Hooper said.
McCain's remarks also "go against the traditions of American pluralism and religious pluralism and inclusion," Hooper said.
Hooper's organization, a Washington-based Islamic civil rights and advocacy group, said it's trying to organize a group of Muslim leaders to meet with McCain.
The National Jewish Democratic Council, an advocacy group representing Jewish Democrats, also called on the Republican Party to denounce the remarks formally.
"Former maverick John McCain's statements were repugnant," the group's executive director, Ira N. Forman, said in a statement. "It's been sad watching him transform from political maverick to religious right mouthpiece."
Forman added, "Someone running for president ought to understand the Constitution a little better. Nowhere does it say the United States is a 'Christian' nation. How can we trust someone to uphold the Constitution who doesn't even know what is in it?"
McCain's communication director, Jill Hazelbaker, issued a statement Sunday defending her candidate's comments: "Read in context, his interview with Beliefnet makes clear that people of all faiths are entitled to all the rights protected by the Constitution, including the right to practice their religion freely.
"In the interview he also observed that the values protected by the Constitution, by which he meant values such as respect for human life and dignity, are rooted in the Judeo-Christian tradition. That is all he intended to say to the question, America is a Christian nation, and it is hardly a controversial claim."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/01/mccain.christian.nation/index.html
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How hypocritical of the pig known as "Ibrahim" Hooper.
Nothing this man or the organisation he represents should be listened to.
Research this swine.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Hooper
I quote: "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future."
Anyone notice the hypocracy?
Fuck islam!
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How hypocritical of the pig known as "Ibrahim" Hooper.
Nothing this man or the organisation he represents should be listened to.
Research this swine.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Hooper
I quote: "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future."
Anyone notice the hypocracy?
Fuck islam!
Agree.
Fcuking tool.
Also, what's with a DEMOCRAT lobbying group calling for REPUBLICANS to denounce what McCain said?
Worry about your own fcuking religious zealots (obviously a bunch of them, from various religions) instead.
And debate McCain. But to call for the Republican party to denounce?
Fcuking tools.
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I'll support that
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Also, what's with a DEMOCRAT lobbying group calling for REPUBLICANS to denounce what McCain said?
Pres Bush himself chided democrats for not condemning the MoveOn.org ad, just last week.
Kinda similar?
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They will attack anything a Repub says at this point even if its in agreement with a Muslim nutbag who would like to see this country an another Islamic state. He's been on TV before, plenty of times. McCain is right...we were founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. He's prefer a christian, his opinion. I bet he wouldn't mind a Jew either. Anybody here want a Muslim? I bet not.
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They will attack anything a Repub says at this point even if its in agreement with a Muslim nutbag who would like to see this country an another Islamic state. He's been on TV before, plenty of times. McCain is right...we were founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. He's prefer a christian, his opinion. I bet he wouldn't mind a Jew either. Anybody here want a Muslim? I bet not.
Yes, McCain flipflopped.
After saying we'd never have a muslim president...
then a commercial...
then coming back and saying that in america, anyone can be president, even muslims...
then, calling the show back...
to say that he'd actually vote for a muslim for president if it was the 'right guy'.
Well, personally, I'd rather vote for a religious zealot who is honest, than a diverse guy who keeps changing his story.
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Well, personally, I'd rather vote for a religious zealot who is honest, than a diverse guy who keeps changing his story.
In that case, we're of different opinions.
Religion is a private matter. Lets keep it that way, shall we.
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In that case, we're of different opinions.
Religion is a private matter. Lets keep it that way, shall we.
It's a private matter, but it's a central part of public life and political campaigns. Sort of an oxymoron. For instance, the last two questions of the night during the most recent Democrat presidential debate were:
- name your favorite Bible verse
- Red Sox or Yankees?
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It's a private matter, but it's a central part of public life and political campaigns. Sort of an oxymoron. For instance, the last two questions of the night during the most recent Democrat presidential debate were:
- name your favorite Bible verse
- Red Sox or Yankees?
Are you kidding me?
What kind of fcuked up journalists would ask garbage shit like that?
"Hey, Hillary's big on the Yankees, that really made me go with her instead of that Red Sox blowhard Obama" ::)
Journalistic integrity? Hello?
Dumbing up the audience, by the minute. Nice fcuking job. >:(
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Are you kidding me?
What kind of fcuked up journalists would ask garbage shit like that?
"Hey, Hillary's big on the Yankees, that really made me go with her instead of that Red Sox blowhard Obama" ::)
Journalistic integrity? Hello?
Dumbing up the audience, by the minute. Nice fcuking job. >:(
Calm down killer it was a debate in New Hampshire and the question was asked with tongue firmly planted in cheek. There can be a bit of levity in a debate without it losing all it's impact.
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Are you kidding me?
What kind of fcuked up journalists would ask garbage shit like that?
"Hey, Hillary's big on the Yankees, that really made me go with her instead of that Red Sox blowhard Obama" ::)
Journalistic integrity? Hello?
Dumbing up the audience, by the minute. Nice fcuking job. >:(
I kid you not. :)
I think the Bible question was a bit much, but I don't have a problem with the sports question. I don't want some egghead who knows nothing about sports in the White House. That's partly why I don't like Brownback. Knows nothing about football. How the heck does that happen?
Seriously, not the most important criteria or a deciding factor for me, but a person running for governor or president has to follow sports. It's too ingrained in our society for them to know nothing about it.
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Calm down killer it was a debate in New Hampshire and the question was asked with tongue firmly planted in cheek. There can be a bit of levity in a debate without it losing all it's impact.
LOL.
Nice one, I have to admit. :-[
;D