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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt C on October 04, 2007, 04:21:19 AM
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http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport2007.html
- Dennis and Jay could have switched places and the results would have made more sense.
- Ronnie was a legit fourth, but Dexter had no business beating him.
- The fitness girls were oath.
- Milos is very smart.
- The show was sold out...if "sold out" means only 80% of the seats being filled.
- IFBB: please STOP putting the female shows close to the men's shows just to fill seats. No one has any interest in female bodybuilding. Get the clue. This is a business, is it not?
I will update that link later and post on here when I update it. I have a few more pictures to upload and a few more rants to go on.
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a little late don't u think?
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a little late don't u think?
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I wouldn't say so. I didn't get in until Tuesday at 12AM. I was busy with other things and had this online within 24 hours but spent some time editing it. Had I been home on Sunday night it would have been up on Tuesday. It seems that the Olympia is still fresh in everyone's mind, so I decided to post it. I'm not meaning to start debates about who should have won which have already been discussed, but just want to post my experiences. Maybe at the Arnold, I'll bring a laptop, but customs is a HUGE pain in the ass.
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explain to me why Dex had no business beating ronnie....
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THanks Ron!!..................(i mean Matt)
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http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport2007.html
- Dennis and Jay could have switched places and the results would have made more sense.
- Ronnie was a legit fourth, but Dexter had no business beating him.
- The fitness girls were oath.
- Milos is very smart.
- The show was sold out...if "sold out" means only 80% of the seats being filled.
- IFBB: please STOP putting the female shows close to the men's shows just to fill seats. No one has any interest in female bodybuilding. Get the clue. This is a business, is it not?
I will update that link later and post on here when I update it. I have a few more pictures to upload and a few more rants to go on.
You need to shag a fitness slut next expo you go to.
No need to give out name or so, do it, and tell all about it.
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You need to shag a fitness slut next expo you go to.
No need to give out name or so, do it, and tell all about it.
;)
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explain to me why Dex had no business beating ronnie....
Ronnie was far more ripped and bigger.
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Ronnie was far more ripped and bigger.
Indeed but i think his lagging triceps and lat made him loose to Dexter.
In my opinion thats justified because the symmetry problems are very obvious and detract from his physique
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your review just flew out the window when you said ronnie was a legit 4th and should have placed ahead of dexter!
spoken like a true fan, I will give you that!
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your review just flew out the window when you said ronnie was a legit 4th and should have placed ahead of dexter!
spoken like a true fan, I will give you that!
Ronnie dwarfed Dexter in size, condition, thickness, density and overall mass.
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Hey Matt, ever thought about joining a gym?
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http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport2007.html
- Dennis and Jay could have switched places and the results would have made more sense.
- Ronnie was a legit fourth, but Dexter had no business beating him.- The fitness girls were oath.
- Milos is very smart.
- The show was sold out...if "sold out" means only 80% of the seats being filled.
- IFBB: please STOP putting the female shows close to the men's shows just to fill seats. No one has any interest in female bodybuilding. Get the clue. This is a business, is it not?
I will update that link later and post on here when I update it. I have a few more pictures to upload and a few more rants to go on.
What show were YOU watching?
Ronnie was a legit 4th...meaning...not only do you have him beating Dexter, but Jay as well??
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Hey Matt, ever thought about joining a gym?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173013.0;attach=201052;image)
he's at least as big as you man, i love how clowns like you think if you're not 157 pounds at 2 percent bodyfat you've never been to the gym, i'd love for you to train with me sometime. :D
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he's at least as big as you man, i love how clowns like you think if you're not 157 pounds at 2 percent bodyfat you've never been to the gym, i'd love for you to train with me sometime. :D
based on numbers posted you are stronger than me
and to be honest..I am average or slightly above average on some lifts..nothing special..never claimed to be
I sometimes travel to Michigan (East Lansing)...I would love to work out with you..
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based on numbers posted you are stronger than me
and to be honest..I am average or slightly above average on some lifts..nothing special..
I sometimes travel to Michigan (East Lansing)...I would love to work out with you..
if you ever get to St. Louis or the surrounding areas shoot me a PM and we'll train, no animosity at all we'll just have a good workout.
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he's at least as big as you man, i love how clowns like you think if you're not 157 pounds at 2 percent bodyfat you've never been to the gym, i'd love for you to train with me sometime. :D
calm down tiger, it is not that serious..get a sense of humour
Matt has posted videos of 315 for 5 reps...just as strong as me
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There was no way that ronnie was a legit 4th his whole left side was small than his right
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There was no way that ronnie was a legit 4th his whole left side was small than his right
I agree with you on that...personally I had him 6-10th..and only because he is Ronnie
change his name and he would have been laughed at..
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Ronnie's most muscular and side chest were still up there in the top 2 IMO.
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That's the most ridiculous outfit ive seen in some time.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173013.0;attach=201052;image)
That's the most ridiculous outfit ive seen in some time.
yeah Matt's a good guy and cool as shit but what is going on with some of those clothes? :o
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:o
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Ronnie's most muscular and side chest were still up there in the top 2 IMO.
His side chest changed drastically when he hit his left to his right. and having a good most muscular should not put you in the top 10 when the rest of your physique is bad. I know why they put ronnie in 4th, i am not complaining, but he didnt earn it with his physique, he earned with his name
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i didn't know they made short sleeved sports jackets.
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This is a rediculous thread. Ronnie was basically the biggest mess of his life and was "lucky" to eek out 4th place. I'm thinking that nobody next to Chick was actually sitting at the show...and if you were, you weren't ANYWHERE close to the stage...
Did someone actually say Ronnie was in better shape than Dexter...I mean, did that actually leave someones mouth? Interesting...
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Ronnie dwarfed Dexter in size, condition, thickness, density and overall mass.
size yes, condition no. i was there, saw it all go down. ronnie looked like shit friday but was way better sat.
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explain to me why Dex had no business beating ronnie....
His conditioning wasn't spectacular compared to previous versions of himself and while he was up in size he wasn't up in size enough to beat Ronnie - and even more questionable: why did he beat Wolf? Did Dexter really improve over his form in the picture below?
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/dexterjackson.html
What show were YOU watching?
Ronnie was a legit 4th...meaning...not only do you have him beating Dexter, but Jay as well??
I had Ronnie beating everyone but Dennis, Victor, and Jay (in my opinion in that order). After, I would have put Melvin in fifth and Silvio in sixth, with Dexter in seventh. I'll admit, the top six was VERY close, but I didn't see Dexter beating Ronnie and I especially didn't see him beating Dennis.
Ronnie getting fourth is a lot like when Markus Ruhl placed fifth in 2004. He may not have had the best structure, but he was still undeniably huge and shredded.
Epic irony: Ronnie's left side injuries all stemmed from his victory collapse at the 2005 Mr. Olympia. The first of such injuries were visible just days later in his GMV DVD "On the Road":
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanontheroaddvd.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/19zb_small.JPG)
PS - Bob, I'm happy to report that Crystal from bodybuilding.com told me I'm your 25th top affiliate partner out of over 8,000. I plan to make that #1 very soon. ;D
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Ronnie was far more ripped and bigger.
Did you type Ronnie was far more ripped than Dex? lol
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http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport2007.html
- Dennis and Jay could have switched places and the results would have made more sense.
- Ronnie was a legit fourth, but Dexter had no business beating him.
- The fitness girls were oath.
- Milos is very smart.
- The show was sold out...if "sold out" means only 80% of the seats being filled.
- IFBB: please STOP putting the female shows close to the men's shows just to fill seats. No one has any interest in female bodybuilding. Get the clue. This is a business, is it not?
I will update that link later and post on here when I update it. I have a few more pictures to upload and a few more rants to go on.
Man you still have much to learn Matt lol but hey I'll had it to you at least you try.
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Did you type Ronnie was far more ripped than Dex? lol
Dexter was ripped...I'd have to go over the pictures to see just how ripped. From where I sat it didn't look like he was leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else. Ronnie WAS dry. As garraeth mentioned to me at the expo, he looked almost disfigured in some sense. His muscles just didn't "POP" like they used to. I mean, look at these pictures...
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemandvd.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanunbelievabledvd.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemandvd/159.jpg)
Man you still have much to learn Matt lol but hey I'll had it to you at least you try.
In life, you should try to learn that sometimes, somewhere along the line, someone will disagree with you.
PS - Dorian of 1993 would have taken the whole show. I figured you'd like hearing me say that. ;D
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Dexter was ripped...I'd have to go over the pictures to see just how ripped. From where I sat it didn't look like he was leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else. Ronnie WAS dry. As garraeth mentioned to me at the expo, he looked almost disfigured in some sense. His muscles just didn't "POP" like they used to. I mean, look at these pictures...
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemandvd.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanunbelievabledvd.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemandvd/159.jpg)
In life, you should try to learn that sometimes, somewhere along the line, someone will disagree with you.
PS - Dorian of 1993 would have taken the whole show. I figured you'd like hearing me say that. ;D
Dexter was among the best conditioned in that show ! Ronnie was soft he wasn't dry you want to see Ronnie Dry compare him to 1998 you'll see dry
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His conditioning wasn't spectacular compared to previous versions of himself and while he was up in size he wasn't up in size enough to beat Ronnie - and even more questionable: why did he beat Wolf? Did Dexter really improve over his form in the picture below?
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/dexterjackson.html
I had Ronnie beating everyone but Dennis, Victor, and Jay (in my opinion in that order). After, I would have put Melvin in fifth and Silvio in sixth, with Dexter in seventh. I'll admit, the top six was VERY close, but I didn't see Dexter beating Ronnie and I especially didn't see him beating Dennis.
Ronnie getting fourth is a lot like when Markus Ruhl placed fifth in 2004. He may not have had the best structure, but he was still undeniably huge and shredded.
Epic irony: Ronnie's left side injuries all stemmed from his victory collapse at the 2005 Mr. Olympia. The first of such injuries were visible just days later in his GMV DVD "On the Road":
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecolemanontheroaddvd.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/19zb_small.JPG)
PS - Bob, I'm happy to report that Crystal from bodybuilding.com told me I'm your 25th top affiliate partner out of over 8,000. I plan to make that #1 very soon. ;D
Peanut gallery ::)
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Dexter was among the best conditioned in that show ! Ronnie was soft he wasn't dry you want to see Ronnie Dry compare him to 1998 you'll see dry
All in all, I would still have him beating Dexter. Just as you would have Yates consistently beating far more pleasant looking physiques.
That comparison you posted of Ronnie is kind of sad to look at. :-\
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Dexter was among the best conditioned in that show ! Ronnie was soft he wasn't dry you want to see Ronnie Dry compare him to 1998 you'll see dry
look at how ronnies abbs seperated in 10 yrs! :o
jeez what a mess he brought to the stage this yr, well everyone gets old!
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look at how ronnies abbs seperated in 10 yrs! :o
jeez what a mess he brought to the stage this yr, well everyone gets old!
No matter how you slice it, he's still world class. NO ONE could possibly debate that he deserved to be outside of the top 10. Like I said, I had him in fourth, but some will argue he should have been a few spots lower. He is past his prime, but by every definition, he is still world class.
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No matter how you slice it, he's still world class. NO ONE could possibly debate that he deserved to be outside of the top 10. Like I said, I had him in fourth, but some will argue he should have been a few spots lower. He is past his prime, but by every definition, he is still world class.
more like local class, like maybe mr texas ;)
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All in all, I would still have him beating Dexter. Just as you would have Yates consistently beating far more pleasant looking physiques.
That comparison you posted of Ronnie is kind of sad to look at. :-\
Matt its not about Dexter being more aesthetically pleasing its a matter of being better conditioned , Ronnie was way off I mean I was surprised he placed ahead of Wolf
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Matt its not about Dexter being more aesthetically pleasing its a matter of being better conditioned , Ronnie was way off I mean I was surprised he placed ahead of Wolf
I was also very surprised he placed ahead of Wolf! But I still maintain he was a solid fourth, with Wolf ahead of him instead of Dexter. I'm not saying he looked great, I'm simply saying he still looked solid enough to place fourth.
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Man you still have much to learn Matt lol but hey I'll had it to you at least you try.
So who do you think should have won in 1987? By your reasoning, the bodybuilder in the best condition seems to win even if he is down in size.
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This is a rediculous thread. Ronnie was basically the biggest mess of his life and was "lucky" to eek out 4th place. I'm thinking that nobody next to Chick was actually sitting at the show...and if you were, you weren't ANYWHERE close to the stage...
Did someone actually say Ronnie was in better shape than Dexter...I mean, did that actually leave someones mouth? Interesting...
yes that came from our resident fat pig squatfatter who knows nothing about bb'ing is our favoritel fat lil gay schmoe..
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yes that came from our resident fat pig squatfatter who knows nothing about bb'ing is our favoritel fat lil gay schmoe..
Dexter was ultra-shredded, but Ronnie's weak point wasn't really conditioning, it was structure. He still had plenty of size on Dexter. Also, what did Dexter have on Melvin and Dennis?
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Dexter was ultra-shredded, but Ronnie's weak point wasn't really conditioning, it was structure. He still had plenty of size on Dexter. Also, what did Dexter have on Melvin and Dennis?
i wasn't referring to you matt i was referring to fatdaddy squat fat. :D
good post and olympia report with pics and thanks for the review...
everyone has different opinions but don't dare argue with spongebob- :-*
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What show were YOU watching?
Ronnie was a legit 4th...meaning...not only do you have him beating Dexter, but Jay as well??
This guy will always defend the I.F.B.B no matter what. chick, grow some balls! >:(
SUCKMMYMUSCLE
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This guy will always defend the I.F.B.B no matter what. chick, grow some balls! >:(
SUCKMMYMUSCLE
Try and get it rght...that was MATT C's quote not mine........
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This argument will go on until next year - Ronnie is still world class ( top 10 in the world ) for sure BUT was way off of his previous form. His legs alone must have been 4inches smaller EACH !!
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This argument will go on until next year - Ronnie is still world class ( top 10 in the world ) for sure BUT was way off of his previous form. His legs alone must have been 4inches smaller EACH !!
I agree. Top 10 = world class, and Ronnie was definitely top 10. You could even argue that anyone qualifying for the Olympia is world class.
My top six:
1. Dennis Wolf
2. Victor Martinez
3. Jay Cutler
4. Ronnie Coleman
5. Melvin Anthony
6. Silvio Samuel
7. Dexter Jackson
8. Gustavo Badell
9. Johnnie O Jackson
10. David Henry
Something like that anyway! I could have had Dexter as high as fifth but I don't see what he had on Melvin.
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So who do you think should have won in 1987? By your reasoning, the bodybuilder in the best condition seems to win even if he is down in size.
Haney was the clear winner I mean Gaspari was harder by far but Haney was no slouch on conditioning couple that with Haney being at least 40 pounds heavier than Rich and twice as wide Haney all the way !
with all things being ' equal ' what separates the winner from the loser is who is better conditioned , Flex & Ronnie 1998 , Ronnie basically won because his glutes were striated and his hams showed better separation if Flex was 100% on the money he would have beat Ronnie in 1998 despite being lighter .
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Haney was the clear winner I mean Gaspari was harder by far but Haney was no slouch on conditioning couple that with Haney being at least 40 pounds heavier than Rich and twice as wide Haney all the way !
with all things being ' equal ' what separates the winner from the loser is who is better conditioned , Flex & Ronnie 1998 , Ronnie basically won because his glutes were striated and his hams showed better separation if Flex was 100% on the money he would have beat Ronnie in 1998 despite being lighter .
Haney was structurally wider than Gaspari but was not much bigger. Gaspari was 220 at that show and Lee was probably 245 at most. Also, that particular night, Haney was definitely not in peak condition - I would say not even close!
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html
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ND - serious question for you, do you like my website? ??? Discuss.
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hey Matt you'd like the latest Flex it's got a 25 page or so special of Rich and Lee training together back in 1984, goes through their whole training program.
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its amazing to me that you can own a bodybuilding site, and claim to know bodybuilding, working out, nutrition, etc yet think so little of dexter jackson.
what about vic's oil filled body?
what about ronnies lack of a left side?
dex should have won the mr o never mind finish behind ronnie and melvin (in your eyes)
here's a hint, the next time you go to the olympia - open your eyes.