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Title: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Captain Slin on October 04, 2007, 12:41:28 PM
wtf is up with MOST of these guys? They look insane but at the same time they look like they are half asleep. Dont get me wrong there are a lot of pros that work very hard and normally those are the guys that place well.. but some of them....I just cant believe how lazy it seems they are while working out.

Last person I saw.. . was Garrett Downing... I swear the dude looked like he was was just waking up to go brush his teeth.. NO INTENSITY what so ever.. damn good arms though.. which is actually common with most pros... the most noticeable thing to me is incredibly developed arms...

look at this video of victor martinez.. wtf.. lol its like as soon as it starts to hurt he stops...and this is with pretty much every vid ive seen of him..




THAT vs this...

...EFFORT..



Turn off the stupid music and just look at the momentum of the weight. Yelling and grunting is different than trying hard.... makes sense to me if its a giant set aka milos style and they arent going all out on every set but.... most of these guys do a set then walk around for a very long time and rest before the next one  :-\
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Stark on October 04, 2007, 12:43:19 PM
ahhhhh EXCELLENT... Leroy is a Legend,

COME ON DIESEL LETS FLY, that's right Yates that;s what you're here for... DRIVE IT DRIVE IT SQEEEEEEEETZE!!!!

;D

(http://www.goddudes.com/1.gif)
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: ManBearPig... on October 04, 2007, 12:46:40 PM
do you regularly wide grip ez curl 120 lbs for a dozen, captain slin, so you can say that's no intensity?
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: affy on October 04, 2007, 12:48:05 PM
a lot of people (pro or not) rarely train till failure so they can train a bodypart 2-3 times a week
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: The_Schofeild_Kid on October 04, 2007, 12:50:59 PM
shame they don't give out bodybuilding awards based on how hard you train... then dillet or wheeler wouldn't have even won a local show.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 04, 2007, 12:51:45 PM
In general a lot of people mistake straining for training
you see it so often..a guy struggles with a weight for a few crappy reps instead of trying to maximize hypertrophy by using proper form and a good number of reps

..going to failure is overrated.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Overload on October 04, 2007, 12:53:24 PM
I saw Branch train 3 years ago and he didn't even break a sweat. This was at a 24 hour fitness and right after a show so maybe he was going easy? Not sure, but in his unchained video he trains harder than 90% of the pro's out there.

8)
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: The_Schofeild_Kid on October 04, 2007, 12:54:43 PM
In general a lot of people mistake straining for training
you see it so often..a guy struggles with a weight for a few crappy reps instead of trying to maximize hypertrophy by using proper form and a good number of reps

..going to failure is overrated.

the biggest waste of time is trying to prove how "hardcore" you are by doing excessively intense workouts. who said stimulate don't annihilate?
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: james_hetfield on October 04, 2007, 12:58:38 PM
shame they don't give out bodybuilding awards based on how hard you train... then dillet or wheeler wouldn't have even won a local show.

so true I saw dillet training for his comeback about a year ago. boy was that the worst workout ive ever seen. he practically did a set every three minutes or more and just stood there chewing on his towel and checking out the bitches
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: WhiteCastle on October 04, 2007, 12:59:42 PM
the biggest waste of time is trying to prove how "hardcore" you are by doing excessively intense workouts.

Damn straight.  The best way to prove how hardcore you are is to shadowbox in the corner wearing a wifebeater and skullcap.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Stark on October 04, 2007, 01:00:04 PM
so true I saw dillet training for his comeback about a year ago. boy was that the worst workout ive ever seen. he practically did a set every three minutes or more and just stood there chewing on his towel and checking out the bitches

They are not bitches they're called Honeys...go with the flow

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Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: JasonH on October 04, 2007, 01:00:10 PM
ahhhhh EXCELLENT... Leroy is a Legend,

COME ON DIESEL LETS FLY, that's right Yates that;s what you're here for... DRIVE IT DRIVE IT SQEEEEEEEETZE!!!!

;D

(http://www.goddudes.com/1.gif)

I know him. Good guy.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: The Squadfather on October 04, 2007, 01:01:03 PM
i saw a jr. Nationals level guy at our gym do 5 reps below his chin with 315 on seated barbell presses and while he was training a girl in between her sets he ran to the db rack and did a set of 6 with 145 pound db's on inclines, he did that 6 times.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: james_hetfield on October 04, 2007, 01:12:48 PM
nah nugga us gots it all wrong
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2007, 01:18:48 PM
I've seen many at the World's gym in PB.  They are simply Huge.  Photos do not do them justice. The only thing I find odd is that they lift such light weights and workout real fast.  The reason why most seem dopey is that they smoke up before working out.  It allows you to push harder without feeling the pain.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 04, 2007, 01:24:32 PM
i saw a jr. Nationals level guy at our gym do 5 reps below his chin with 315 on seated barbell presses and while he was training a girl in between her sets he ran to the db rack and did a set of 6 with 145 pound db's on inclines, he did that 6 times.

That's sick.

I guess when you're that big and geared up you don't even need a plan of attack. Just lift heavy shit and you grow
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: The Squadfather on October 04, 2007, 01:26:33 PM
That's sick.

I guess when you're that big and geared up you don't even need a plan of attack. Just lift heavy shit and you grow
yeah he's a strong bastard especially on shoulders, i've seen him press a pair of 150's for a few reps as well, goofy guy though, stops juicing and doesn't even train and shrinks big time, nicest guy you'll ever meet.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Captain Slin on October 04, 2007, 01:31:39 PM
who was talking about failure?

im just talking about intensity.most of milos clients dont go to failure in every set but all of their workouts are intense.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: The_Schofeild_Kid on October 04, 2007, 01:32:58 PM


the most intense pro workout ever. check out the 4 25lbs plates on the t-bar row.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Captain Slin on October 04, 2007, 01:39:19 PM


the most intense pro workout ever. check out the 4 25lbs plates on the t-bar row.

lmfao... weight is light but that doesnt matter so much...whats really weird is that there is no STRUGGLE.. and hes doing back then lifts up his shirt to check his abs?    ???

that is the weirdest thing.. almost like he is there to show off his physique instead of train for a contest.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: CRIS on October 04, 2007, 01:40:27 PM
And how many guys train this intense on the O week:


Only one did it. And the best one of all of them!!
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: The Squadfather on October 04, 2007, 01:40:44 PM
hahahahaha 100 pounds is light for ONE ARM t bars let alone two arms.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: The_Schofeild_Kid on October 04, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
And how many guys train this intense on the O week:


Only one did it. And the best one of all of them!!

damn look at dorian's traps/neck poppin out through his cut-off sweatshirt. and his face is all sucked in and dry like you should look 2 weeks out.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Overload on October 04, 2007, 01:48:26 PM
who said stimulate don't annihilate?

Lee Haney

8)
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: candidizzle on October 04, 2007, 01:54:01 PM
I've seen many at the World's gym in PB.  They are simply Huge.  Photos do not do them justice. The only thing I find odd is that they lift such light weights and workout real fast.  The reason why most seem dopey is that they smoke up before working out.  It allows you to push harder without feeling the pain.
i dont know what drug you are refering to...but back in my pot-head days i would smoke a blunt before the gym almost everyday...   the one positive thing it did for me was create a HUGE mind muscle connection. before i worked out high...i could never isolate my chest or back to any type of degree. i was always using front delts when trying to workout chest, and always using biceps for my back....training blown gave me the ability to almost COMPLETELY isolate the chest and back muscle groups. 


...one thing about back is, good form, looks like sloppy form. you always see top pros using lots of momentum and sway when working out their backs...and many of your criticize their form; but in reality, the best way to fully isolate your lats is to get a good rythmic sway during your reps.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 04, 2007, 01:56:34 PM


the most intense pro workout ever. check out the 4 25lbs plates on the t-bar row.

Whatever dude....Dillet was fucking gigantic, most muscle on one person ive ever seen
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: AllDrugs on October 04, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
the biggest waste of time is trying to prove how "hardcore" you are by doing excessively intense workouts. who said stimulate don't annihilate?

Do you approach everything in life with the attitude that you want to do as little as possible to get by?

"Overtraining" is a word thrown out there by the lazy or those that rely on drugs for stimulus.  99% of the people who ever enter a gym do not work hard enough to get to where they want to be physically.  
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: wisconsinBB on October 04, 2007, 01:59:12 PM
i dont know what drug you are refering to...but back in my pot-head days i would smoke a blunt before the gym almost everyday...   the one positive thing it did for me was create a HUGE mind muscle connection. before i worked out high...i could never isolate my chest or back to any type of degree. i was always using front delts when trying to workout chest, and always using biceps for my back....training blown gave me the ability to almost COMPLETELY isolate the chest and back muscle groups. 


...one thing about back is, good form, looks like sloppy form. you always see top pros using lots of momentum and sway when working out their backs...and many of your criticize their form; but in reality, the best way to fully isolate your lats is to get a good rythmic sway during your reps.

Sounds like a fucking muscletech ad!  MIND MUSCLE CONNECTION BABY!
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: wisconsinBB on October 04, 2007, 02:00:52 PM
Any of you fucktards who knew anything about bodybuilding knows that many of the videos are shot within a few weeks of a contest.  Those guys are so fucking drained and depleted that it can be hard to just pick up the weight, much less go all out with their normal off season weights.  RETARDED THREAD :P
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: candidizzle on October 04, 2007, 02:00:59 PM
Sounds like a fucking muscletech ad!  MIND MUSCLE CONNECTION BABY!
a muscletech ad for WEED. lol
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: wisconsinBB on October 04, 2007, 02:07:22 PM
a muscletech ad for WEED. lol

Please explain to me the mind-muscle connection you speak of.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: pumpster on October 04, 2007, 02:14:34 PM
a lot of people (pro or not) rarely train till failure so they can train a bodypart 2-3 times a week

Good excuse. It's not a problem to train to failure with frequency; we're in the era of extreme less is more and minimalist training frequency but that doesn't make it the most effective or other ways less good either.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: pumpster on October 04, 2007, 02:15:45 PM
the biggest waste of time is trying to prove how "hardcore" you are by doing excessively intense workouts. who said stimulate don't annihilate?

Really? How can you be sure that taking it easy is as good or better? You can't.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: pumpster on October 04, 2007, 02:19:12 PM
Do you approach everything in life with the attitude that you want to do as little as possible to get by?

"Overtraining" is a word thrown out there by the lazy or those that rely on drugs for stimulus.  99% of the people who ever enter a gym do not work hard enough to get to where they want to be physically.  

Ya, what's happened in the last couple of decades is so much of the HIT less is more theory applied to volume training, all with the assumption that you have to baby yourself AKA nice excuse to take it easy "and you'll still grow"  ::) You might grow but there's no way to know if you've maximized gains sitting there picking your ass.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: IceCold on October 04, 2007, 02:54:18 PM
for those of you that dont know, pumpster does NOT even go to a gym.

he uses a bowflex in his home gym, which is actually the largest room in his 1 bedroom apt.

for more clarification and prove, see the 'truce' thread - he posted pictures.

by the way, he is also a mod on the training forum and deletes my posts when i state who the others are getting their advice from.
Title: Re: Ever seen a pro train? No, Seriously....
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 04, 2007, 04:57:21 PM
some things you have to remember:

many of the pros worked alot harder when they where up and coming. if you want longevity you have to scale back the intensity at some point. (cant be squatting 550+ lbs every session)

why work hard when you got all the muscle (thanks to years of drugs+ solid training)?

dillet was lazy yes but one of the best bodybuilders of all time (dillet>yates)

a "natural" has to focus alot more on (slowly) progressively increasing weight ....a steroid user can to some extent let the drugs (increase in dosage) take care of the progressiveness lifting heavier (still have to work hard tho)
 

etc

many pros are lazy mofos..but thats not the whole picture (some are just lazy periods of time..some were hard workers but got lazy after years of training ...)