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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: affeman on October 08, 2007, 01:51:45 PM
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Markus Ruhl now officially confirmed his retirement on his website (http://www.markus-ruehl.de/news2007.html). He also aks himself if it can be correct that there are 15 spots difference between these two physiques (the right one didn't place because of being smooth, you know...?). ;D
(http://www.markus-ruehl.de/uploads/pics/jayvsmarkus1.jpg)
(http://www.markus-ruehl.de/uploads/pics/jayvsmarkus2.jpg)
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There are 15 spot differences...the one on the left should have been 15 below the one on the right.
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wow unbelievable
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Cutler is a joke.
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Rhul is a monster, not a bodybuilder. No proportion. I hope he lands some rolls in Europe as a monster in some SCi Fi flics. I truely feel bad for him, he has been a pawn of the supplement industry using his size as a selling point; however, bbing is like sculpting, and he has sculpted an unbalanced physique. His handlers have misguided him...
At least he may live a long life now, he looked like he was going to die any day from kidney failure or high blood pressure.
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Cutler is the puppet of choice, decided upon by the highest IFBB sponsor, thats all. Markus Ruhl should promote himself now to either Vince McMann or Rob Zombie, his paycheck would almost definately increase, not including his computer career(not sure how he does there).
Good luck Markus
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Gutler looks like Ruhls bi#ch
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I always liked markus. Sad to see him retire, but its probably for the best. Theres no way he should have lost to cutler, let alone been 15 places under him at the olympia.
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Pro bodybuilding is a joke, I find it amazing that sales are down, seat are empty and popularity is fading fast so they COMPLETELY fuck up the olympia and make it worse. GG IFBB.
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wow those comparisons are really something.
Ruhl should always place top 10 even if his conditioning is off, because of his superior structure, development, size and thickness to virtually every other competitor.
cutler's structure is not better than markus, all his muscles are paper thin compared to markus', markus is taller, bigger, better taper, and has more definition even when off.
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Good for Markus, he is a great person to meet. Markus can now leave the game and live somewhat longer then if he continued till he was 40 or older.
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ruhl is a legend, one of my all-time favorites
*everytime i see cutlers pics it just fucking pisses me off
i mean really, wtf?!?!
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those gutler pics are embarassing, thats for sure. he looks like a flat npc competitor there. he should spend the next year sending thank you notes to muscletech for buying him the sandow.
also, ruhl is a cool guy and very entertaining. i hope he does well in life.
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those gutler pics are embarassing, thats for sure. he looks like a flat npc competitor there. he should spend the next year sending thank you notes to muscletech for buying him the sandow.
also, ruhl is a cool guy and very entertaining. i hope he does well in life.
gutler would not place top ten in the usa's or nationals
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Hahaha i love Markus. Im glad he made that point on his website.
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hahahahaha
no one respects Jay anymore - what a sham of a contest
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Since markus is retired we should get him on getbig
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I think Ruhl should just accept that he came in looking like shit, lets see him comparing himself to the likes of Dennis, Victor, Melvin, Darrem, etc :D
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I tried using an on-line translation.....
man I got a headache trying to understand this:
Hello dear bodybuilding friends, you correctly read. It continues - however no longer actively on the match stage. Probably you long received, as the Olympia for me ran. I am disappointed naturally enormous and do not know also, why I was in such a manner badly platziert. Admitted, this was not my Best form. But at least one place in the Top 15 I would regard as appropriate. But I want to weight here not longer, but come directly to the actual core of my announcing.
I will say good-bye with immediate effect of the active bodybuilding haven. I already made this decision after the Arnold Classics. The bad olympia placement has to do therefore nothing with my decision, however encourages you me in my thoughts. I would like to come naturally also to an open and honest reason, because it was not to look in such a way, as if this is an insulted Trotzraktion. No, it is a well-thought-out decision.
You know me all as hard working Pro-athlete, which gave than 100% achievement in training ever more. Only so I could be established at all over 10 years at the absolute world point of the professional haven. Only by heaviest training units I could develop the muscle mass and the volume, for which I could win world-wide fans and bodybuilding friends for me over years. I repented that never, always thank I had mine fun and I my faithful catch my shank for it.
This absolute will to always give and always train at the limit everything, is me forwards approx.. 2 years (or longer *?!) become the calamity. Developed an incipient crack of the right chest muscle, which is unfortunately not to be repaired by an operation.
* I do not know until today, when this happened, since this no classical outline was, but an incipient crack, which went completely schwerzfrei and without wounds of. During the off Season and with inflated muscle was this to be never seen. All the more surprised was I then, as the match Diaet brought this fault to the appearance. _ if you picture the last 2 year pursue, will it the creep process pursue can, how/as itself the incipient crack ever more become larger
I continued nevertheless, because it is not my kind be given up and chest training invariably strong, intensively and pain-free be carried out there could. Thus I put down again 2006 a mad year, whereupon I am afterwards very proud, since it succeeded to me again despite this Handicaps to along-fight completely in front on the professional stage.
With the Arnold Classics me however the combat judges abgestrafft for the first time for this fault, by platzierten me unusually badly (admitted, I was at that time really not particularly good in form). But after that match also my resolution was certain that the Olympia would be last 2007 my. But since I did not want to stop with the bad placement of the Arnold Classics, put I mean whole strength again into the preparation to the Mr. olympia match. All thing continued to itself pull away my chest always and it lost watching at volumes.
Since I had not come in the reason ever given by amerikanschen combat judges a placement, but me each of my places always hard to fight for had and often even far under my actual achievement was platziert, was now clear it me that the fault with the chest would become my calamity. And in such a way it happened then that I was platziert in this year with the Olympia for the first time outside of the Top 15. That is naturally an emotional very painful experience, particularly since I do not think that a so negative placement was justified.
But completely independently of my chest Handycap I regard the current development of professional bodybuilding as the further reason to withdraw me from the active sport: On the match stage seems to be in the meantime increasingly more muscle hardness than muscle mass in demand. When I entered into the professional camp, one said to me at the recent age of 25 years that my match weight of 118 kg would be still too easy with 177cm, in order to be able to compete with the remaining sizes of the sport seriously. Fortunately it turned out as one of my talents to increase my muscle mass in the following years by further 15 kg which me one the most substantial Bodybuilder of all times did not only make, but for me also the call, the favour and the loyalty my catch my shank brought in.
In the meantime most professional LINE Ups (and so also the current olympia match) consists to a large extent of easier athletes, with which more to the muscle hardness than to the muscle mass importance is attached. Bodybuilding always means strength, mass and enormous proportions, which lie faraway from the achievements and extents of an amateur athlete for me. Now, where these elements seem to be apparently no more in this extent on the professional stages desired, the championships seem to me more like dehydrogenation matches instead of classical bodybuilding. This is a section, which I can serve independently of my chest Handycap neither nor would like.
The era of the substantial athletes seems gradual to the end happens. After the simultaneous resignation from Ronnie Coleman (and me) remains only for Jay Cutler as athlete in the category "over 125 kg". Bodybuilding seems to stand therefore now finally before since longer announced paging. I am now since 1997 in the professional business, far over 30 professional matches denied. I brought always mad achievements. I was nine times in consequence qualified for the Olympia, two professional matches won and second seats four times reserved. Most proudly am I however that I could win the hearts and Zusprueche of my fans with my kind.
Thus I thank all mean fans, that accompanied me over all the many years and always to me stood. Even if a match went beside it, my fans have me and friends always with aufmunternden words supports. But I would like to thank you from whole heart. Even if I am now no active Wettkampf-athlete more, I will not say good-bye nevertheless under any circumstances to bodybuilding. I will be further for the sport, I there will be further present and I also further for of you "mass monsters" will remain. I will have in the future even still more time and opportunities, me on you, my fans and friends to adjust and your enamels to answer and commentate questions and suggestions. For this will I from me culpably neglected "questions & Antworten" column on my Website again to re-activate.
So I would like to stand for you further with your way with my knowledge and Tipps to the side. And I will be pleased naturally also very, you further with championships to meet fairs or other causes. You know that I am to be always had for a fun; -) Thanks for the wonderful years * your Markus (* I am not lost to you)
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Cutler should retire not Ruhl.. Fuck Cutler
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he admitted his chest tear and said it basically doomed him.
he also said bbing these days seems more of a conditioning contest than anything else and huge size and proportions are out of favor. his strengths are no longer the qualities that are rewarded :-\
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ruhl = 100% oil
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ruhl = 100% oil
You're right. Still, Ruhl had a very cool physique. Some of those NOC shots are awesome. But those delts and Bi's just had way too much 10w40.
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I tried using an on-line translation.....
man I got a headache trying to understand this:
Hello dear bodybuilding friends, you correctly read. It continues - however no longer actively on the match stage. Probably you long received, as the Olympia for me ran. I am disappointed naturally enormous and do not know also, why I was in such a manner badly platziert. Admitted, this was not my Best form. But at least one place in the Top 15 I would regard as appropriate. But I want to weight here not longer, but come directly to the actual core of my announcing.
I will say good-bye with immediate effect of the active bodybuilding haven. I already made this decision after the Arnold Classics. The bad olympia placement has to do therefore nothing with my decision, however encourages you me in my thoughts. I would like to come naturally also to an open and honest reason, because it was not to look in such a way, as if this is an insulted Trotzraktion. No, it is a well-thought-out decision.
You know me all as hard working Pro-athlete, which gave than 100% achievement in training ever more. Only so I could be established at all over 10 years at the absolute world point of the professional haven. Only by heaviest training units I could develop the muscle mass and the volume, for which I could win world-wide fans and bodybuilding friends for me over years. I repented that never, always thank I had mine fun and I my faithful catch my shank for it.
This absolute will to always give and always train at the limit everything, is me forwards approx.. 2 years (or longer *?!) become the calamity. Developed an incipient crack of the right chest muscle, which is unfortunately not to be repaired by an operation.
* I do not know until today, when this happened, since this no classical outline was, but an incipient crack, which went completely schwerzfrei and without wounds of. During the off Season and with inflated muscle was this to be never seen. All the more surprised was I then, as the match Diaet brought this fault to the appearance. _ if you picture the last 2 year pursue, will it the creep process pursue can, how/as itself the incipient crack ever more become larger
I continued nevertheless, because it is not my kind be given up and chest training invariably strong, intensively and pain-free be carried out there could. Thus I put down again 2006 a mad year, whereupon I am afterwards very proud, since it succeeded to me again despite this Handicaps to along-fight completely in front on the professional stage.
With the Arnold Classics me however the combat judges abgestrafft for the first time for this fault, by platzierten me unusually badly (admitted, I was at that time really not particularly good in form). But after that match also my resolution was certain that the Olympia would be last 2007 my. But since I did not want to stop with the bad placement of the Arnold Classics, put I mean whole strength again into the preparation to the Mr. olympia match. All thing continued to itself pull away my chest always and it lost watching at volumes.
Since I had not come in the reason ever given by amerikanschen combat judges a placement, but me each of my places always hard to fight for had and often even far under my actual achievement was platziert, was now clear it me that the fault with the chest would become my calamity. And in such a way it happened then that I was platziert in this year with the Olympia for the first time outside of the Top 15. That is naturally an emotional very painful experience, particularly since I do not think that a so negative placement was justified.
But completely independently of my chest Handycap I regard the current development of professional bodybuilding as the further reason to withdraw me from the active sport: On the match stage seems to be in the meantime increasingly more muscle hardness than muscle mass in demand. When I entered into the professional camp, one said to me at the recent age of 25 years that my match weight of 118 kg would be still too easy with 177cm, in order to be able to compete with the remaining sizes of the sport seriously. Fortunately it turned out as one of my talents to increase my muscle mass in the following years by further 15 kg which me one the most substantial Bodybuilder of all times did not only make, but for me also the call, the favour and the loyalty my catch my shank brought in.
In the meantime most professional LINE Ups (and so also the current olympia match) consists to a large extent of easier athletes, with which more to the muscle hardness than to the muscle mass importance is attached. Bodybuilding always means strength, mass and enormous proportions, which lie faraway from the achievements and extents of an amateur athlete for me. Now, where these elements seem to be apparently no more in this extent on the professional stages desired, the championships seem to me more like dehydrogenation matches instead of classical bodybuilding. This is a section, which I can serve independently of my chest Handycap neither nor would like.
The era of the substantial athletes seems gradual to the end happens. After the simultaneous resignation from Ronnie Coleman (and me) remains only for Jay Cutler as athlete in the category "over 125 kg". Bodybuilding seems to stand therefore now finally before since longer announced paging. I am now since 1997 in the professional business, far over 30 professional matches denied. I brought always mad achievements. I was nine times in consequence qualified for the Olympia, two professional matches won and second seats four times reserved. Most proudly am I however that I could win the hearts and Zusprueche of my fans with my kind.
Thus I thank all mean fans, that accompanied me over all the many years and always to me stood. Even if a match went beside it, my fans have me and friends always with aufmunternden words supports. But I would like to thank you from whole heart. Even if I am now no active Wettkampf-athlete more, I will not say good-bye nevertheless under any circumstances to bodybuilding. I will be further for the sport, I there will be further present and I also further for of you "mass monsters" will remain. I will have in the future even still more time and opportunities, me on you, my fans and friends to adjust and your enamels to answer and commentate questions and suggestions. For this will I from me culpably neglected "questions & Antworten" column on my Website again to re-activate.
So I would like to stand for you further with your way with my knowledge and Tipps to the side. And I will be pleased naturally also very, you further with championships to meet fairs or other causes. You know that I am to be always had for a fun; -) Thanks for the wonderful years * your Markus (* I am not lost to you)
Learn German.... ;)
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Its a really sad day for bodybuilding.........ben and joe wider have finnally done it....put the last nail in the coffin......they have finally after years of trying oficially killed the sport of professional bodybuilding.......the pictures of the olympia say it all....markus ruhls statement says it all........... :'(
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oil or not he looked way better than the fridge. i never buy flex magazine again.
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As one of Ruhl's Fans I'm VERY SAD to see him leave ... I wish him all the best in his future endeavors ! :'(
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Craziest pic ever, even if people think it is shopped or stretched in some way.
Its a shame Ruhl had to end his career on somewhat of a sour note. He always did get fucked over when it came to his placings. It just would have been cool to see Ruhl go out on a happier note.
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2007 is the worst year in bodybuilding
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Now, where these elements seem to be apparently no more in this extent on the professional stages desired, the championships seem to me more like dehydrogenation matches instead of classical bodybuilding. This is a section, which I can serve independently of my chest Handycap neither nor would like.
right on Markus!,,,dehydrongentaion = brink of death conditioning.
You fans have to stop craving striaged glutes, what are you a bunch of gays. Your are all ruining the sport and endagering our athletes. Its all the fans and magazine editors fault.
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I don't know if he reads these boards or not but I
think he beat Jay and Ronnie at one of those grand prixs
after the Olympia last year; not sure which one but he looked
better on the vids and pics...although I wasn't there I'm sure there
are many there who felt the same way.
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im not suprised that ruhl retires. as he says the problem with his chest looks bad and he has had a hard time coming in really ripped also his physqiue has become more and more lumpy.
that being said: when ruhl was at his best from late 90s to 2002-2003 he was better than jay cutler ever has been or will be!
the fact that cutler was given the mr o has destroyed alot for bodybuilding. it is one of the worst decisions in bodybuilding history.
as for ruhls questions if his physique should be 15 placings lower than cutlers...the answer is no, but bodybuilding is just too subjective. at this mr o the guys who were out of top 8 could have basically placed anywere 8-24. ( few should have been in top 8)..the differences are so small and some guys have so different phsysiques its almost impossible to compare (with a few exceptions).
take a guy like shelestov..in my opinion he could have been top 10.
the mr o is about who you are not how you look. jay wasnt even top 4. ronnie wasnt in top 8.
this extreme subjectivity and rigged contests together make bodybuilding competitions very uninteresting as far as placings go. they can work as a good scene for people to show their physique but the placings are in many cases just based on who you are and thus irrelevant
the mr o 2007 has failed to name the best bodybuilder in the world this year.
the whole RESULST LIST at this mr olympia (2007) is NOT VALID.
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I don't know if he reads these boards or not but I
think he beat Jay and Ronnie at one of those grand prixs
after the Olympia last year; not sure which one but he looked
better on the vids and pics...although I wasn't there I'm sure there
are many there who felt the same way.
ohh yes and he should have beaten jay on many occasions.
bb needs weight classes or height classes.
some physiques are just too different to judge.
but in the jay vs ruhl case. up until 2003 or so ruhl was the better bodybuilder.
ruhl looks like shit these days, so does cutler. and 80% of the competitors on stage at the various IFBB competitions this year have looked like shit.
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Exactly, i wonder if they can explain to us why jay cutler is a better bodybuilder then a guy like rockell. im afraid they cant.
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Exactly, i wonder if they can explain to us why jay cutler is a better bodybuilder then a guy like rockell. im afraid they cant.
both shelestov and rockel should have placed higher than cutler.
for some it sounds extremely shocking...but these are people that have gotten so caught up in the hype and name game.
i remember shelestov should have beaten cutler at some show (was it last year? or earlier than that?) when he came third behind ronnie and gutler.
GUTLER should retire to save some of his dignity.
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Jay Cutler just looks like shit. That painfull look in his face confirms he was fighting some sort of site infection. He does deserve some credit for fighting through that pain. Even when announced the winner he was spent and couldn't even celebrate.
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Jay Cutler just looks like shit. That painfull look in his face confirms he was fighting some sort of site infection. He does deserve some credit for fighting through that pain. Even when announced the winner he was spent and couldn't even celebrate.
id say his non celebrating is because he knew he didnt win the competition and because he has turned himself into a machine. he has slowly over the years killed his emotions and become a machine. eat for function, train sleep. he has taken it to an extreme....he has no personality. thus when he smiles its often mostly fake. no soul. no personality.
a question for those who have watched a comedy with jay: did he really laugh at any jokes? i mean really laugh and not just a fake smile?
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That 2002 NOC picture is the craziest I've ever seen, is his prime Ruhl was a beast but injuries always seemed to derail his career, I agree with the statement that Jay has become almost like a robot, he was never the most charismatic guy but it's gotten worse over the last few years, he seems like a nice guy, but i think the "sport'" could really use someone with a good personality as Mr.O, imagine a Mr.O with a personality like Chick, BB would definitely grow because of that IMO.
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That 2002 NOC picture is the craziest I've ever seen, is his prime Ruhl was a beast but injuries always seemed to derail his career, I agree with the statement that Jay has become almost like a robot, he was never the most charismatic guy but it's gotten worse over the last few years, he seems like a nice guy, but i think the "sport'" could really use someone with a good personality as Mr.O, imagine a Mr.O with a personality like Chick, BB would definitely grow because of that IMO.
and someone with an "athletic" healthy looking physique like gunther.
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and someone with an "athletic" healthy looking physique like gunther.
yeah if your gonna rig a competition and only view the mr o as part of a marketing strategy atleast pick someone with a personality.
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2007 is the worst year in bodybuilding
well, not really. the Arnorld classic was great, but you can give this year's olympia a big fcuking thumbs down.
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ive never seen such unanimous opinions on getbig. most people who generally argue will agree that cutler = shit.
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Sadly, for each Ruhl who's had enough of the absurdities and retired, there are five suckers dying to take his place.
Ruhl certainly deserved better over his career. Hopefully, he made some money and saved enough to start something new.
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right on Markus!,,,dehydrongentaion = brink of death conditioning.
You fans have to stop craving striaged glutes, what are you a bunch of gays. Your are all ruining the sport and endagering our athletes. Its all the fans and magazine editors fault.
exactly bbing has become a conditioning contest(except they make an exception for THE FRIDGE ::)).
who knows when we will see another as unique and awesome as Markus Ruhl :-\
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Sad to see him leavebut his reason's are very valid, likeable and distinctive guy.
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Since Markus and Jay back in 2001 both got caught with diuretics in their systems (I believe) when tested during prejudging for the Olympia. Jay took or almost took legal action, Jays placings went up up and right to the top while Markus went down down down. Not sure if Markus was on-board with this(legal action) or not but if not maybe he should have been !!!
Maybe, just maybe the IFBB had a can of worms they really didn't want opened.
Just a thought.
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