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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Disgusted on October 10, 2007, 09:47:59 PM
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Than this, for example.
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In my honest opinion ... NOT VERY ... hope that helps. ;)
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How about this?
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how about this?
(http://i12.tinypic.com/5z44oqg.jpg)
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Well, their guts are better...their "take drugs in excess" mentality is better...
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The competitors today do not stack up against the guys you posted at all. Those guys are lightyears ahead of todays champs all whilst being from the past :-\
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How about this?
If Theirry would have been a few inches taller he would have won the Olympia a few times. None the less, he was incredible.
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All " Neck " Jokes aside ... how about this ? ;)
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Sorry man, that neck.................... ..hahahahahhahahahahaha
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Everyone talks about how ripped Dexter is and don't get me wrong he is, but even the guys from years ago who were not even considered shredded had striations where todays guys could only dream of. :'(
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(http://creativebits.org/files/images/arnold_schwarzenegger.jpg)
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This is what I've been preaching about all along, bottomline....NO ONE is better today, they are much much worse. The quality of physiques are gone......Milos...THIS is something we should debate!
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:o
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:o
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Good one Jeff, another.
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Guess who. 8)
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Good one Jeff, another.
Ha, you stole my picture, thats ok...........
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Natural or not, Skip is shredded here.
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Guess who. 8)
Is it shawn's back?
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Guess who. 8)
Shawn Ray.
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Shawn Ray.
It has the name on the bottom of the pic.
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It has the name on the bottom of the pic.
And your point is ? ;D
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Another Pic !
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(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4595/shawnraydq9.jpg)
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All " Neck " Jokes aside ... how about this ? ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174593.0;attach=202783;image)
Who is that??
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Who is that??
Jeff King.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174593.0;attach=202796;image)
great picture.
The old bodybuilders looked much better.
their physiques are far more attainable than todays bodybuilders. They weren't all drugs.
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early eighties.
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One of my fav of Frank.
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tell me again what exactly GH and insulin have done for bbing?
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Rare one of Matt Mendenhall.
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Zane does not belong in this thread >:(
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Heres another shot of Jeff King. What ever happened to this guy?
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Zane does not belong in this thread >:(
I agree. Zane was terribly overrated. Never should have an O.
On the other hand, I agree with the general theme of this thread. Physiques were much better in the 90s as compared with today
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The physiques were better only because they were smaller. If pros today were not as big, they would look just as good. Nothing has changed other than the fact that current pros are bigger. All that muscle does look overwhelming. Some of you speak as if there are other differences between the eras other than sheer size. Even Lee Haney at 300 pounds would not look as good.
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Rare one of Matt Mendenhall.
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Mendenhall was THE MAN. Too bad he couldn't dial in his conditioning. Incredibly small joints for a big guy. He dwarfed Strydom at the nationals.
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Everyone talks about how ripped Dexter is and don't get me wrong he is, but even the guys from years ago who were not even considered shredded had striations where todays guys could only dream of. :'(
why cant current guys get striations like that? is it the drugs they use? if so which ones?
some fuked up shit is goin on with current physiques.
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Yeah Mendenhall had pretty much perfect genetics for bodybuilding. Great physique on him. Huge guy, but a very aesthetic physique.
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I agree. Zane was terribly overrated. Never should have an O.
On the other hand, I agree with the general theme of this thread. Physiques were much better in the 90s as compared with today
Neither should have Cutler.
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This?
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This?
Ha, my two former training partners :D
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The intramuscular detail and quality of muscle has gone now. Look at those Serge Nubret pics on his thread. 6 foot tall and only 212 pounds, BUT of quality shredded muscle ....
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I agree. Zane was terribly overrated. Never should have an O.
On the other hand, I agree with the general theme of this thread. Physiques were much better in the 90s as compared with today
I'm with you 100%, look at that Sergio pic! And that was fr/ the 80's! Someone paste that next to Cutler. ::)
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How about this?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174593.0;attach=202782;image)
That man got screwed more than anyone else in the 90's. It was definitely because he was so short.
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The intramuscular detail and quality of muscle has gone now. Look at those Serge Nubret pics on his thread. 6 foot tall and only 212 pounds, BUT of quality shredded muscle ....
Exactly, good quality shredded muscle is gone thanks to the use of insulin.
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Heres another shot of Jeff King. What ever happened to this guy?
I think the reason he left is because the Ifbb changed the rules on him so that he could not be a proffesional unless he had won an NPC pro qualifier or something simmilar on those line.
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How about this guy? Should've stuck around to beat dorian.
(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/franc13.jpg)
(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/franc36.jpg)
(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/franc38.jpg)
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Funny how 95% of the BBers on this thread are better and more refined than the pro's of today, man this industry has gone down hill.
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Stood next to Mike a couple of years ago at a show and I was shocked at how narrow he is in the shoulders.
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Funny how 95% of the BBers on this thread are better and more refined than the pro's of today, man this industry has gone down hill.
yep :-\
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that benefatto picture must be pretty recent, looking at the Nike's that guy is wearing. At least in the last four years...no?
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how tall is benfatto?
those shox look like R4's I have a pair of those. Looks like second generation R4 :D
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;D
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how tall is benfatto?
those shox look like R4's I have a pair of those. Looks like second generation R4 :D
5'7"
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I think the reason he left is because the Ifbb changed the rules on him so that he could not be a proffesional unless he had won an NPC pro qualifier or something simmilar on those line.
true. even though they let ed kawak, brian buchanan, and several other nabba guys into the ifbb, they told King ( a multiple universe winner) and Mike Quinn that they would have to qualify through the npc.
Mike went back and won the usa's ( he had already won the universe); Jeff said forget it and retired.
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Francois' mid-section was always a mess
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Victor would of beaten any man in this thread
The bar has been raised so high these days that just being in the top 10 is an extremly hard task
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even arnie was shredded beyond belief
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Notice how no one has came on here to defend the present day "pros".......the judges should take note on what people want to see.
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Haney
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Yates.
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Some of these Pictures ... no ... MOST of these Pictures are just SICK !! I'd rather have Yesteryear's Physique than Today's ... ANYDAY OF THE WEEK ! Hell, how about TODAY ?? :D
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All I have to say is Wow.
All you have to really do is thank the judges for killing off the sport. They did the same thing to women's bodybuilding and figure. It's just taken Men's Bodybuilding a little longer to catch up.
When you reward these ugly physiques, this is what shows up at contests.
Looking at Jay compared with these guys, and even the shows I personally went to in the 90's is a JOKE.
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Yates.
Sorry dude, but Yates can't compare with the quality, aesthetics, symmetry and conditioning presented in this thread.
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Sorry dude, but Yates can't compare with the quality, aesthetics, symmetry and conditioning presented in this thread.
AGREE 100 % !
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Ha, my two former training partners :D
Bob Paris looks pretty big in that pic
was he a big guy in everyday's life? looks like he has a pretty big frame
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damn bodybuilding used to be pretty good
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Bob Paris looks pretty big in that pic
was he a big guy in everyday's life? looks like he has a pretty big frame
Any good Stories, Coach ?
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Bob Paris looks pretty big in that pic
was he a big guy in everyday's life? looks like he has a pretty big frame
At 6' he was bigger than most, but not as big as Rory, Bob preferred to stay pretty lean in the off season while Rory liked to blow up to 280-300.
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Any good Stories, Coach ?
Yeah, I've got a few, after all we did train for a couple of years....and I did used to date his boyfriends sister and Jon Aranita wound up marrying his boyfriends other sister..LOL!
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Yeah, I've got a few, after all we did train for a couple of years....and I did used to date his boyfriends sister and Jon Aranita wound up marrying his boyfriends other sister..LOL!
I think I speak for the rest of the guys here at GetBig ... we would love to hear a few !
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I think I speak for the rest of the guys here at GetBig ... we would love to hear a few !
Ok, but that require thinking and thinking takes carbohydrates and I'm lacking carbohydrates at the present, but as you can tell by my previous posts on other thread.....I'm real good at arguing..LOL.
But believe me when I tell you I have nothing bad to say and still have the utmost respect for him to this day. Rory on the otherhand, I still talk and see him on a pretty regular basis. I'll have some stories when I gather my wits.
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Ok, but that require thinking and thinking takes carbohydrates and I'm lacking carbohydrates at the present, but as you can tell by my previous posts on other thread.....I'm real good at arguing..LOL.
But believe me when I tell you I have nothing bad to say and still have the utmost respect for him to this day. Rory on the otherhand, I still talk and see him on a pretty regular basis. I'll have some stories when I gather my wits.
Sounds good, man ! ;)
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Victor would of beaten any man in this thread
The bar has been raised so high these days that just being in the top 10 is an extremly hard task
not true- he is actually really overrated IMO
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Disgusted, the question is..........Why were the guys back then so much better than teh guys now???
And how much of an impact does massive steroid use and insulin have to play in this.
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The physiques of today makes me sick.
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Stood next to Mike a couple of years ago at a show and I was shocked at how narrow he is in the shoulders.
Not to mention the long torso, short chest, lat insertions. He was a brute, but lacked the genetics to beat Dorian.
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Disgusted, the question is..........Why were the guys back then so much better than teh guys now???
And how much of an impact does massive steroid use and insulin have to play in this.
There much better because instead Creatin ( I think creatin is over rated) was red meat, was no Whey protein (whey is over rated) it was milk, cottage cheese, eggs, chicken breast, fruit vegetables. Now BBs scare to eat fruits , and moderate use of steroids and no GH .
Kamali should go to Danny Padilla for advise.
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y'know this is probably one of the best pics of alltime, look at the shape and proportions on these 2...it's pretty amazing. Too bad they probably couldn't win a pro card today in the exact same condition cause this is about as good as it gets IMO:
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good thread, lets keep it going 8)
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I agree that the old generation looked better but you have to realize that they were doing mostly oral steroids, thats why they look so big and full and had short careers.
The guys today do more injectables but less orals so their careers last longer.
You cant look as good as the old school guys without doing orals.
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Paris had the best ideal physique yet he was flawed mentaly
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Paris had the best ideal physique yet he was flawed mentaly
Because he is gay? If thats the case that's the only flaw he had, he's a very smart and articulate person.
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y'know this is probably one of the best pics of alltime, look at the shape and proportions on these 2...it's pretty amazing. Too bad they probably couldn't win a pro card today in the exact same condition cause this is about as good as it gets IMO:
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this is the type of physique many aspire to, myself included. absolute perfection!
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I agree that Paris had a good physique, but many guys have looked as good and better along the same criteria: Flex, Shawn Ray, Edgar Fletcher, Chris Cormier, Melvin Anthony and now, Dennis Wolf
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y'know this is probably one of the best pics of alltime, look at the shape and proportions on these 2...it's pretty amazing. Too bad they probably couldn't win a pro card today in the exact same condition cause this is about as good as it gets IMO:
It still makes me shake my head that Rory did not get his Pro card. He influenced so many people with his training. Coach and myself both used his guidance. Samir (also on this thread) and I trained together for six months and is still one of my all-time favorites as was Danny Padilla (yes I trained with him as well). To me Rory, Samir, Danny, and Paris represent what I strive for physique-wise. I consider myself truly lucky to have trained with guys who I consider among the very best.
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I love the old school build.todats guys are a joke
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Paris at his best
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what pros of today would get this kind of reaction from the ladies?
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How many thread have there been that were similar to this? Hundreds? Maybe thousands? I'm not talking about just on this forum, but others. Yet the judges won't pay attention and I know for a fact that they get on not only here, but others. What I see is that the majority and concensus of the bodybuilding world are just sick and tired of seeing big, bloated, unsymmetrical, lack of work ethic, unconditioned (compared to yester year) "bodybuilders".
Not one post have I seen that anyone came on to defend todays pro's.......why? Because about 90% realize that they don't compare to the BBer's in this thread, Milos hasn't defended or any other current pro that either comes on here or posts on here or any other board for that matter..........it's pathetic that the judges, sponsors, current competitors can't defend what they ultimately screwed up......the industry.
Judges...are you freaking blind at the FACT that the fans and BBing historians are just sick of your crap and favoritism??
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;)
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Paris had the best ideal physique yet he was flawed mentaly
How is it, living in 1781?
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Paris had the best ideal physique yet he was flawed mentaly
Jaejoanna...how does it feel to be in love with bodybuilding yet display a physique that nor gays or gals can possibly find attractive.
Is this the moneymaker ? :D
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Jaejoanna...how does it feel to be in love with bodybuilding yet display a physique that nor gays or gals can possibly find attractive.
Is this the moneymaker ? :D
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classic
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Rory was a gym monster who couldn't quite get his pre contest conditioning down. If he was sharper, it wouldn't have been a contest between he and Paris. Rory had long muscle bellies, wide shoulders, narrow hips. Head was in proportion to his physique. Benfatto at the 1990 Olympia was also a physique that was/is to be aspired to.
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Arnold
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I agree that the old generation looked better but you have to realize that they were doing mostly oral steroids, thats why they look so big and full and had short careers.
The guys today do more injectables but less orals so their careers last longer.
You cant look as good as the old school guys without doing orals.
care to explain this in further details to a noob like me
I would have thought that the injectables yeilded results.
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y'know this is probably one of the best pics of alltime, look at the shape and proportions on these 2...it's pretty amazing. Too bad they probably couldn't win a pro card today in the exact same condition cause this is about as good as it gets IMO:
I can't believe rory didn't get his pro card he looks amazing there.
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Bob Paris looks fantastic in every picture I've ever seen of him
Great Physique
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Most bodybuilders today are filled and loaded with drugs. Big guts and deformed shoulders,arms,chest,ect.. ruin modern day bodybuilding. Back when Arnold was competing.. most bodybuilders were 180-230lbs. Today guys are 260-300lbs contest. Loading yourself up with garbage doesn't make you a better bodybuilder. Arnold is in his 50s-60s and doesn't even have a big gut or messed up arms like some of these pros today. I would pick Arnold anyday over Jay or Ronnie.
(http://www.boerseun.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/arnold_schwarzenegger.jpg)
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I agree that the old generation looked better but you have to realize that they were doing mostly oral steroids, thats why they look so big and full and had short careers.
The guys today do more injectables but less orals so their careers last longer.
You cant look as good as the old school guys without doing orals.
Come on now, don't tell me the guys of today don't touch orals. And were their careers really shorter due to this, or even shorter at all? I don't think so.
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Come on now, don't tell me the guys of today don't touch orals.
ROFL Doing orals doesn't even constitute being "on" anymore, and it's getting harder and harder to even find a pill that doesn't contain at least 25mg's in it...
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ROFL Doing orals doesn't even constitute being "on" anymore, and it's getting harder and harder to even find a pill that doesn't contain at least 25mg's in it...
Shit, it's hard to find anything where I'm at...
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Who read Paris' book? Kind of interesting how Paris paid a huge amount of money to get a tiny amount of growth hormone, when not much was known about the muscle building potential of the compound or the potential side effects. Kind of illustrates the bodybuilders mindset. Had he been competing today he would have been slamming slin like the rest of them.