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Title: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: loco on October 11, 2007, 05:50:57 AM
Paul supported his children during their undergraduate and medical school years, not allowing them to take part in subsidized federal student loan programs. He has not signed up for a Congressional pension for the same reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Family

Two years after leaving medical school and moving to Surfside Beach, Texas, Paul worked in a church hospital's emergency room in San Antonio for a wage of $3 per hour ($18 in 2007 dollars). Paul later specialized in ob/gyn and eventually delivered more than 4,000 babies. Taking over the medical practice of a retiring doctor in Lake Jackson, Texas, he was busy as the only ob/gyn doctor in Brazoria County, saying, "I delivered forty to fifty babies a month and did a lot of surgery." Paul did not accept Medicare and Medicaid payments as a physician; instead, he worked for free or arranged discounted or custom-payment plans for needy patients; he says of these patients, "I just took care of them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Military_service_and_medical_career
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Deicide on October 11, 2007, 06:05:40 AM
Paul supported his children during their undergraduate and medical school years, not allowing them to take part in subsidized federal student loan programs. He has not signed up for a Congressional pension for the same reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Family

Two years after leaving medical school and moving to Surfside Beach, Texas, Paul worked in a church hospital's emergency room in San Antonio for a wage of $3 per hour ($18 in 2007 dollars). Paul later specialized in ob/gyn and eventually delivered more than 4,000 babies. Taking over the medical practice of a retiring doctor in Lake Jackson, Texas, he was busy as the only ob/gyn doctor in Brazoria County, saying, "I delivered forty to fifty babies a month and did a lot of surgery." Paul did not accept Medicare and Medicaid payments as a physician; instead, he worked for free or arranged discounted or custom-payment plans for needy patients; he says of these patients, "I just took care of them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Military_service_and_medical_career

Independent of your religous lunacy Loco I actually support Ron Paul and whilst I do not agree with everything he says and wishes (the arbortion issue, gun regulation) I agree with a good deal of it. In particular I am very attracted to his foreign policy as an expat. I don't live in the states but have lived in countries occupied by American military forces (as I do now). Philosophically I have Libertarian leanings. If he were to get the Republican nomination (which he won't) I would certainly vote for him. Too bad his chances are almost nil, nevermind the rigged elections.
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: loco on October 11, 2007, 06:12:48 AM
Independent of your religous lunacy Loco I actually support Ron Paul and whilst I do not agree with everything he says and wishes (the arbortion issue, gun regulation) I agree with a good deal of it. In particular I am very attracted to his foreign policy as an expat. I don't live in the states but have lived in countries occupied by American military forces (as I do now). Philosophically I have Libertarian leanings. If he were to get the Republican nomination (which he won't) I would certainly vote for him. Too bad his chances are almost nil, nevermind the rigged elections.

Lunacy?  Well, they don't call me loco for nothing.    ;D

At least we agree on some things.  Religion has nothing to do with it.  I just like how Ron Paul is all about the U.S. Constitution, and I like his honesty, his integrity and his good reputation.
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Deicide on October 11, 2007, 06:38:02 AM
Lunacy?  Well, they don't call me loco for nothing.    ;D

At least we agree on some things.  Religion has nothing to do with it.  I just like how Ron Paul is all about the U.S. Constitution, and I like his honesty, his integrity and his good reputation.

As do I, as do I...
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2007, 01:29:24 AM
Paul supported his children during their undergraduate and medical school years, not allowing them to take part in subsidized federal student loan programs. He has not signed up for a Congressional pension for the same reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Family

Two years after leaving medical school and moving to Surfside Beach, Texas, Paul worked in a church hospital's emergency room in San Antonio for a wage of $3 per hour ($18 in 2007 dollars). Paul later specialized in ob/gyn and eventually delivered more than 4,000 babies. Taking over the medical practice of a retiring doctor in Lake Jackson, Texas, he was busy as the only ob/gyn doctor in Brazoria County, saying, "I delivered forty to fifty babies a month and did a lot of surgery." Paul did not accept Medicare and Medicaid payments as a physician; instead, he worked for free or arranged discounted or custom-payment plans for needy patients; he says of these patients, "I just took care of them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Military_service_and_medical_career

Yes he is a good man.  Good info. 

Too bad he will never be president.
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Deicide on October 13, 2007, 01:31:57 AM
Yes he is a good man.  Good info. 

Too bad he will never be president.

Unfortunately I agree with you.
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2007, 01:37:25 AM
Unfortunately I agree with you.

So do about 98 percent of the people participating in Republican presidential polls.

Part of his problem is a lack of charisma.  Similar to Wes Clark.  Good message and background.  Poor salesman. 

Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Deicide on October 13, 2007, 01:54:41 AM
So do about 98 percent of the people participating in Republican presidential polls.

Part of his problem is a lack of charisma.  Similar to Wes Clark.  Good message and background.  Poor salesman. 



He lets the message speak for itself....
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2007, 12:55:33 PM
He lets the message speak for itself....

That's not good enough the win the presidency.  He has to be able to sell his message and himself.  Why do you think Fred Thompson became an instant frontrunner?  The man has shown in the first weeks of his campaign that he doesn't know his head from his rear end, but he has already left Ron Paul in the dust in the polls.   
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: 240 is Back on October 13, 2007, 02:13:36 PM
That's not good enough the win the presidency.  He has to be able to sell his message and himself.  Why do you think Fred Thompson became an instant frontrunner?  The man has shown in the first weeks of his campaign that he doesn't know his head from his rear end, but he has already left Ron Paul in the dust in the polls.   

Awesome to see you admit that about Thompson.  Props for your honesty.

I specifically remmeber you (my favorite combatant here) saying that Thompson was the best choice because of his "strong leadership",  (Forgive my paraphrasing, however you said it).

Do you still feel he is a "strong leader" and if so, why?  thanks!
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2007, 02:19:31 PM
Awesome to see you admit that about Thompson.  Props for your honesty.

I specifically remmeber you (my favorite combatant here) saying that Thompson was the best choice because of his "strong leadership",  (Forgive my paraphrasing, however you said it).

Do you still feel he is a "strong leader" and if so, why?  thanks!

I never called Thompson the "best choice."  I don't recall ever expressing an opinion about Thompson as a "strong leader," because I know very little about him.  I want to see him in a debate and read more about where he stands on issues before I form an opinion about his leadership potential.   
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: 240 is Back on October 13, 2007, 02:29:43 PM
I never called Thompson the "best choice."  I don't recall ever expressing an opinion about Thompson as a "strong leader," because I know very little about him.  I want to see him in a debate and read more about where he stands on issues before I form an opinion about his leadership potential.   

So, a person can be a strong leader, even if "he doesn't know his head from his rear end"?

And- Suppose he has the greatest leadership ability in the history of the universe.
Do you give control of our nation to a man who "doesn't know his head from his rear end"? 
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2007, 02:48:18 PM
So, a person can be a strong leader, even if "he doesn't know his head from his rear end"?

And- Suppose he has the greatest leadership ability in the history of the universe.
Do you give control of our nation to a man who "doesn't know his head from his rear end"? 

First, you invented facts and attributed them to me, just we get that straight. 

Second, I don't know if Thompson is uninformed or just stupid.  He can learn, just like anyone else.  He's no less experienced than Obama or Hillary, but if he continues down the path he started when he entered the race, then he probably won't get my vote. 
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: Deicide on October 13, 2007, 05:42:00 PM
First, you invented facts and attributed them to me, just we get that straight. 

Second, I don't know if Thompson is uninformed or just stupid.  He can learn, just like anyone else.  He's no less experienced than Obama or Hillary, but if he continues down the path he started when he entered the race, then he probably won't get my vote. 

Fuck that neocon Thompson; let us hope that Paul DOES have a chance...if not...well we are fucked...
Title: Re: Ron Paul - A Good Man
Post by: windsor88 on October 13, 2007, 07:38:21 PM
Fuck that neocon Thompson; let us hope that Paul DOES have a chance...if not...well we are fucked...

I agree.  I am actually a Libertarian but Ron Paul is our best choice IMO.