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Title: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on October 12, 2007, 06:58:02 AM
I remember reading that Mark was spending the 3 months before the O training with Dorian Yates.  Did he make the trip?  And did the heavy, low-volume nature of Doz' training result in Mark's arms shrinking?

Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Radical Plato on October 12, 2007, 07:03:39 AM
Classic Dorian style physique, No Arms, great everything else
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 12, 2007, 07:03:42 AM
BAM
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: YoungBlood on October 12, 2007, 08:35:47 AM
Marks arms have always been a point to work on for him. But the issue seems to have been exacerbated by training with Dorian.
Maybe it will take a bit of time for Mark to dial in the new training style, but I think the new look is not one for the better, certainly when compared to what he has brought in the past.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2007, 08:42:35 AM
He only went to see Dorian for a week and get some "Tips" on training. Dorian didn't "TRAIN" him and his arms were small before he go to England, they weren't gonna grow in a weeks worth of training. I'm sure he got some tips on how to stimulate growth but that will take additional time.
Marks cool and now we know he has flaws like everybody else.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious ::)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on October 12, 2007, 08:44:56 AM
got some tips on how to stimulate growth


how fucking hard is to to figure out how to train ARMS...for fucks sake..it aint rocked science..it aint even 6th grade science ( in europe :-\ )

ya either got the genes..

or ya dont..

done..
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2007, 08:48:52 AM
I agree.
Nevertheless, I'm certain he trains them hard, whether they grow or not I'm sure is out of his control.
Like Dexter Jackson, Melvin Anthony's Calves, they train the hell out of them but still nothing :-\
They dotn stop competing just because they dont grow.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: MAXX on October 12, 2007, 08:51:43 AM

how fucking hard is to to figure out how to train ARMS...for fucks sake..it aint rocked science..it aint even 6th grade science ( in europe :-\ )

ya either got the genes..

or ya dont..

done..
yeah

it aint rocket sience.
i mean your arms can back it up  ::)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174657.0;attach=202866;image)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: SGT BARNES on October 12, 2007, 08:53:33 AM

how fucking hard is to to figure out how to train ARMS...for fucks sake..it aint rocked science..it aint even 6th grade science ( in europe :-\ )

ya either got the genes..

or ya dont..

done..

"rocked science"................genius
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: affy on October 12, 2007, 08:53:52 AM
yeah

it aint rocket sience.
i mean your arms can back it up  ::)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174657.0;attach=202866;image)
LMAO i was just waiting for someone to post that picture..you beat out squadfather
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: jaejonna on October 12, 2007, 08:56:43 AM
He should do well this year
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: SGT BARNES on October 12, 2007, 09:02:27 AM
better than you did fatboy
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: jaejonna on October 12, 2007, 09:03:23 AM
hahah ok sgt. ...
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Deicide on October 12, 2007, 09:06:15 AM
I agree.
Nevertheless, I'm certain he trains them hard, whether they grow or not I'm sure is out of his control.
Like Dexter Jackson, Melvin Anthony's Calves, they train the hell out of them but still nothing :-\
They dotn stop competing just because they dont grow.

In your opinion Shawn do you believe that some people just don't have the genetics to grow certain bodyparts....?
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on October 12, 2007, 09:06:37 AM
better than you did fatboy

how much $ did you make in the mr getbig, barnes?
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: SGT BARNES on October 12, 2007, 09:08:34 AM
hahah ok sgt. ...

is it ok? really?........is it ok to come in completely out of shape for a freaking online bb contest?
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: jaejonna on October 12, 2007, 09:09:28 AM
how much $ did you make in the mr getbig, barnes?
not as much as me!!!

$100 !!!!

I'm already in the top 25 of paid 'bodybuilders' for the year!!

hahaha nice 'industry'
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2007, 09:13:23 AM
Yes, I agree with that or you'd have the guys with glaring weaknesses over coming them in front og our eyes but I have yet to be surprised by major improvements when these guys are full grown men other than overall MASS which doesn't equate to brining up weaknesses.
Ala, Ronnie Colemans Calves, Paul Dillets-Gary Strydom- Bertil Fox's Posing, Dillet & Strydoms Back, D Jackson & M Anthony's Calves, Dryness or Hardness in Wheeler, Alves & Anthony's Hams n Glutes, Shaq's Free Throw Shooting :o
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: SGT BARNES on October 12, 2007, 09:14:56 AM
guess i missed a big payday.

keep up the posing in your underwear for as many sub-ameteur online contests as you can find.
the entertainment value for the rest of us is priceless
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: jaejonna on October 12, 2007, 09:16:35 AM
guess i missed a big payday.

keep up the posing in your underwear for as many sub-ameteur online contests as you can find.
the entertainment value for the rest of us is priceless

I must of Own3d you into suicide watch some time back. hahahha
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on October 12, 2007, 09:20:43 AM
I agree.
Nevertheless, I'm certain he trains them hard,.

well facking duhhhh man..training hard is part of training right..

crap now i sound like vince gironda...

ya happy now shawanna? >:(
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: jaejonna on October 12, 2007, 09:22:17 AM
well facking duhhhh man..training hard is part of training right..

Do tell ...
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on October 12, 2007, 09:24:13 AM
yeah

it aint rocket sience.
i mean your arms can back it up  ::)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174657.0;attach=202866;image)

for a guy on the lunar cycle..4 days training..26 days off...aint 2 shabby...lets see your picture... :) and that pic you posted ws taken at the end of a 3 day sleepless drinking binge..yesh..and now i'm famous cause every insecure fat guy on getbig wants to post it.. :-\  gawd curse m for thinking it'd be funny to post it in the first place.. :-\
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/D1V1SION/5.jpg)

Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Trev on October 12, 2007, 09:30:35 AM
Yes, I agree with that or you'd have the guys with glaring weaknesses over coming them in front og our eyes but I have yet to be surprised by major improvements when these guys are full grown men other than overall MASS which doesn't equate to brining up weaknesses.
Ala, Ronnie Colemans Calves, Paul Dillets-Gary Strydom- Bertil Fox's Posing, Dillet & Strydoms Back, D Jackson & M Anthony's Calves, Dryness or Hardness in Wheeler, Alves & Anthony's Hams n Glutes, Shaq's Free Throw Shooting :o
Shawn Ray's shoulder width.... ;)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 12, 2007, 09:48:40 AM
Shawn Ray's shoulder width.... ;)
you must be joking right ?..you can take shawns picture and teach bodybuilding 101 around it.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Big Worm on October 12, 2007, 09:54:07 AM
you must be joking right ?..you can take shawns picture and teach bodybuilding 101 around it.
You're right about that.. Put up any pic ,any year(contest shape)...You will not find a flaw in Mr.Rays physique..
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Trev on October 12, 2007, 09:57:56 AM
You're right about that.. Put up any pic ,any year(contest shape)...You will not find a flaw in Mr.Rays physique..
Hey, note the  ;) guys. Shawn was incredible, BUT the guys ONLY, I repeat ONLY flaw was that he was a tad narrow in the shoulder department. He'll admit that - See below:-
http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Shawn_Ray/Shawn_Ray_034.jpg
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on October 12, 2007, 10:15:27 AM
What can I say about Shawn Ray ? Simple ... one of the GREATEST Physiques of ALL-TIME ! He was my Favorite Bodybuilder ( Next to Ken Wheeler ) when I first started Training ... truly an Inspiration !
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 12, 2007, 10:18:06 AM
you must be joking right ?..you can take shawns picture and teach bodybuilding 101 around it.

Shawn has narrow clavicles ! no joke
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: YoungBlood on October 12, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
for a guy on the lunar cycle..4 days training..26 days off...aint 2 shabby...lets see your picture... :) and that pic you posted ws taken at the end of a 3 day sleepless drinking binge.

So you're saying that within a relatively short amount of time (26 days) that anyone else will just magically shrink up and lose all that hard earned mass?
Or are you saying that both the drinking and the time off will cause this to occur? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Trev on October 12, 2007, 10:26:17 AM
Shawn has narrow clavicles ! no joke
Thank you.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 12, 2007, 10:29:54 AM
Classic Dorian style physique, No Arms, great everything else

No arms ?  ;)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: delta9mda on October 12, 2007, 10:37:44 AM
You're right about that.. Put up any pic ,any year(contest shape)...You will not find a flaw in Mr.Rays physique..
short legs, long torso.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: gh15 on October 12, 2007, 10:51:58 AM
Shawn Ray's shoulder width.... ;)

his only weakness was height,,other than that top 10 bodybuilders of all time and if competed for example now days he would be the champ at 205-210lb garenteed especially now when coleman is gone,,look at him at his best years,,this last one would go ray,,cutler,,vic,,dex,,wolf etc  if he competed at his all time best
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Hulkster on October 12, 2007, 05:36:14 PM
LOL at the title of this thread..

someone went to Dorian Yates and trained ARMS?

hahaha

thats like seeking out Ronnie Coleman for some ab training tips...

 8)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 12, 2007, 05:43:56 PM
LOL at the title of this thread..

someone went to Dorian Yates and trained ARMS?

hahaha

thats like seeking out Ronnie Coleman for some ab training tips...

 8)

Hulkster the troll makes his presence lol see Hulkser thats called a straw man its easily dismissed , same contest  ;)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Hulkster on October 12, 2007, 05:44:44 PM
yup. and as crappy as ever...looks like its made of ear wax... :-\
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 12, 2007, 05:46:58 PM
yup. and as crappy as ever...looks like its made of ear wax... :-\

Good enough to smoke Coleman's great biceps for 6 years though  ;)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: jdooly on October 12, 2007, 08:15:33 PM
Mark's arms are not "weak."  It is just a shitty photo.  (the very first one) Look at the crappy (non) lighting.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 13, 2007, 12:02:34 PM
I remember reading that Mark was spending the 3 months before the O training with Dorian Yates.  Did he make the trip?  And did the heavy, low-volume nature of Doz' training result in Mark's arms shrinking?



It looks to me like #1 thats a bad shot for him and #2 he added more muscle overall, but his shortish arms just look bad. He needs to hit his arms only for 2 months and let his body chill, then train everything again.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 13, 2007, 01:09:25 PM

how fucking hard is to to figure out how to train ARMS...for fucks sake..it aint rocked science..it aint even 6th grade science ( in europe :-\ )

ya either got the genes..

or ya dont..

done..

but still you havent figured it out.  ;D

hahahah
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: The Squadfather on October 13, 2007, 01:12:08 PM

how fucking hard is to to figure out how to train ARMS...for fucks sake..it aint rocked science..it aint even 6th grade science ( in europe :-\ )

ya either got the genes..

or ya dont..

done..
and you obviously have the genes. ::)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 13, 2007, 01:14:25 PM
and you obviously have the genes. ::)

that is one ugly skinny mother.fu.cker
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: pumpster on October 13, 2007, 01:40:34 PM
Hey, note the  ;) guys. Shawn was incredible, BUT the guys ONLY, I repeat ONLY flaw was that he was a tad narrow in the shoulder department. He'll admit that - See below:-
http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Shawn_Ray/Shawn_Ray_034.jpg

Shoulder width

Height

Lack of density, dryness and the kind of deep cuts Wheeler had.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: pumpster on October 13, 2007, 01:43:15 PM
Good enough to smoke Coleman's great biceps for 6 years though  ;)

epic naivete that continues to disregard contest politics. One word: Columbu.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: sgt. d on October 13, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
dayum dorian looks like shit.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on October 13, 2007, 07:41:02 PM
Mark Drugdales arms look all of 2ft long
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 13, 2007, 07:48:26 PM
epic naivete that continues to disregard contest politics. One word: Columbu.

Oaky I'll count the ' politics ' Coleman 2001 ! hey and 2000 and 2002 and 2004  ;)
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on October 13, 2007, 07:55:16 PM
Hahaha That Dugdale pic almost made me drop my sais from laughing so hard.
I thought it was a photoshop.
Title: Re: Training with Dorian Yates - Did it cost Mark Dugdale his arms?
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 13, 2007, 07:56:53 PM
BAM

ROFL