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Title: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 12:39:39 AM
Jay Cutler has arrived  in Australia &  guest-posed at Melbourne Oct 13 ,2007





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(pics courtesy of flexonline & dohertysgym.com)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Livewire on October 14, 2007, 12:47:01 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: figgs on October 14, 2007, 12:58:02 AM
;D

Is that a real quote?!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 14, 2007, 12:59:03 AM
BOOM! Mr Olympia! CAUGHT WITH DOPE IN HIS FRIDGE

BTW thanks for the updates musclecenter they're appreciated  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Pete Nice on October 14, 2007, 12:59:43 AM
isnt that mag cover shot from 2006
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Livewire on October 14, 2007, 01:03:16 AM
Is that a real quote?!


yep.

this one is even worse :(
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Pete Nice on October 14, 2007, 01:13:26 AM
unreal how soft Jay looks there
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Meso_z on October 14, 2007, 01:16:15 AM
Jay Cutler has arrived  in Australia &  guest-posed at Melbourne Oct 13 ,2007





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(pics courtesy of flexonline & dohertysgym.com)

Whats wrong with his shoulder in the 2nd pic... :-\
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: tweeter on October 14, 2007, 01:20:55 AM
Please tell me this picture is morphed...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 14, 2007, 01:26:54 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=175171.0;attach=203798;image)

Keeps teh shoes loose due to GH feet  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: tweeter on October 14, 2007, 01:28:31 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=175171.0;attach=203798;image)

Keeps teh shoes loose due to GH feet  ;D
You need to get with the times, thats the style now man 8)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 14, 2007, 01:35:46 AM
im going to go out on a limb here and say that Ronald was somewhat of a more impressive Mr. Olympia that jay
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: muscularny on October 14, 2007, 02:02:16 AM
BOOM! Mr Olympia! CAUGHT WITH DOPE IN HIS FRIDGE

BTW thanks for the updates musclecenter they're appreciated  ;D

slin (seems like hum r and humalog) igf (green cap can be many other things too) and GH
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 14, 2007, 02:13:26 AM
You need to get with the times, thats the style now man 8)
lol i know what you mean but loose shoes are one of the better signs of heavy gh use.

Who wears loose shoes to train in cmon now?  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 14, 2007, 02:14:25 AM
slin (seems like hum r and humalog) igf (green cap can be many other things too) and GH

Dope sounds better
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: marcus on October 14, 2007, 02:20:46 AM
yep.

this one is even worse :(

When did he say that about the fans and judges?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: mass243 on October 14, 2007, 02:34:11 AM
When did he say that about the fans and judges?

He didn't.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: muscularny on October 14, 2007, 02:42:02 AM
He didn't.
he sure did on the radio show
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: mass243 on October 14, 2007, 02:45:07 AM
he sure did on the radio show


You mean he said luckily fans are not judges? That's like accepting that you didn't deserve winning - which is true...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
Jay Cutler's guestposing in Australia:

Oct 13      Melbourne, Australia
      
Oct 14       Queensland, Australia
      
Oct 20       Sydney, Australia
      
Oct 21       Sydney, Australia
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Bigger Business on October 14, 2007, 02:57:52 AM
Jay Cutler's guestposing in Australia:

Oct 13      Melbourne, Australia
      
Oct 14       Queensland, Australia
      
Oct 20       Sydney, Australia
      
Oct 21       Sydney, Australia

Perth on the 16th also FYI
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: LEECH2004 on October 14, 2007, 03:28:28 AM

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/klkjl.jpg)(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/jhjhj.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/ghjhj.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/jjkhkj.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia
Post by: Monster81 on October 14, 2007, 03:48:36 AM
isnt that mag cover shot from 2006
sure it is.....its an embaresment to print his 07 shots
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: marcus on October 14, 2007, 03:54:21 AM
Sadly he comes in better conditioned for a guest pose than the O.  ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Monster81 on October 14, 2007, 04:04:30 AM
Sadly he comes in better conditioned for a guest pose than the O.  ::)
tue he does...but that left arm has got softer that ever.........lol
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: webcake on October 14, 2007, 04:12:15 AM
Looks like Jays got some gyno happening (paticularly right nipple)

I would have gone and see Jay guest pose, but apparently tickets are like $65.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 04:24:58 AM
Quote from dohertysgym.com:

Photo shoot for Herald Sun and Flex mag.
Jay with messiahofmuscle's son Jesse, at the photoshoot.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Monster81 on October 14, 2007, 04:29:22 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=175171.0;attach=203827;image)
that kid got more vains in his forearms than wht Jay has in his entire body
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Pecs on October 14, 2007, 05:35:52 AM
Anyone knows where is he guest posing in Sydney?? I cannot find any information of its location, time and tickets. Please Help! :'(
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 14, 2007, 05:53:40 AM
Anyone knows where is he guest posing in Sydney?? I cannot find any information of its location, time and tickets. Please Help! :'(
Contact Doherty's 24:7 Gym   
   
Doherty's Gym & Cafe
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Ph: +61 (03) 9388 0866
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Email: info@dohertysgym.com
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Email: tony@dohertysgym.com

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Email: amanda@dohertysgym.com
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Pecs on October 14, 2007, 06:04:06 AM
thanks, just made a call....
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Radical Plato on October 14, 2007, 06:52:07 AM
I live in Melbourne and I wouldn't cross the street to see Jay Cutler even if the tickets were free.  But, I did go to see Ronnie when he was in town.  Jay just doesn't inspire the way Ronnie did.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: benz on October 14, 2007, 07:50:02 AM
Does he have a boner in those pics where he's just wearing his underwear? lol
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: pushinweight on October 14, 2007, 08:55:59 AM
Why was the last picture photoshopped or something.  Look at the upper right lat.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: bigdumbbell on October 14, 2007, 08:57:25 AM
least he fixed his hair and got it cut before he left
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: tomgreynolds on October 14, 2007, 01:02:28 PM
Why doesn't anyone ever comment on the fact that Jay has some of the shittiest biceps of any Mr. Olympia ever? (Not including the year Dorian Yates won with a torn bicep).

His right bicep is tiny and his left one looks a little more normal.

I can't believe he is Mr. Olympia, this is ridiculous. I'm sure he is a nice guy and all, but his physique just isn't worthy of a sandow.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: MonstaDwarf on October 14, 2007, 01:24:51 PM
Never a fan of Jay until I saw him guest pose in Melbourne, last weekend. He is a genuinly good person, and explained about his pre 'O' illness and why he was better at the finals than on the pre judge. A humble and humorous guy.
Jay For the Threepeat!! :D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Rami on October 14, 2007, 01:53:13 PM
Never a fan of Jay until I saw him guest pose in Melbourne, last weekend. He is a genuinly good person, and explained about his pre 'O' illness and why he was better at the finals than on the pre judge. A humble and humorous guy.
Jay For the Threepeat!! :D

So he got sick this year right before the O again? What did he have to say about it now?  ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: phyxsius on October 14, 2007, 02:20:35 PM
So he got sick this year right before the O again? What did he have to say about it now?  ::)

sick again
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 14, 2007, 02:36:41 PM
What illness?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Jeriko on October 14, 2007, 03:00:28 PM
I live in Melbourne and I wouldn't cross the street to see Jay Cutler even if the tickets were free.  But, I did go to see Ronnie when he was in town.  Jay just doesn't inspire the way Ronnie did.

sure you wouldn't  ::)  I agree he doesn't inpire like Ronnie but he is a top Pro (i think i heard he won the O or something?) and in your scenario free tickets and just a few steps away...   
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: YoungBlood on October 14, 2007, 03:27:04 PM
Looks like Jays got some gyno happening (paticularly right nipple)

I see that his right nipple is WHITE. Not gyno, or any gyno I've seen/heard of.
But a WHITE nipple? WTF? ::) :-X
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: MADMAX6 on October 14, 2007, 04:01:32 PM
I'm sure most people feel like you guys that's why every show is SOLD OUT!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: corinth on October 14, 2007, 04:10:28 PM
I'm sure most people feel like you guys that's why every show is SOLD OUT!

If Jay's such a great Mr. Olympia why is the Euro tour cancelled?

Doesn't Jay have millions of fans in Europe too?

Worst Mr. Olympia ever.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: affy on October 14, 2007, 04:18:46 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=175171.0;attach=203827;image)
that kid got more vains in his forearms than wht Jay has in his entire body
someone morph this pic so that jay has a boner
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Tony Doherty on October 14, 2007, 04:22:14 PM
I'm sure most people feel like you guys that's why every show is SOLD OUT!

Thanks for all your help putting our tour together Dave. Sellout shows in every state, incredible!

Thanks to everyone that came out and supported our show. It was a great day for bodybuilding.

Jay was pure class. I think the best value guest poser I have ever worked with. His routine was a show in itself, He posed for about ten minutes. Jay was a pleasure to interview and way more talkative than I had imagined. His whole attitude to the audience, fans and competitors alike gained him a whole lot of respect. The best thing is that he was probably in better shape than at the Olympia.

I really enjoyed todays show, both as a promoter and as a fan. The lineups were incredible. Hats off to every single competitor that made it. There was not one person making up numbers, not one person that looked like they hadn't prepared. The routines were awesome, some great physiques and moves onstage today.

Thank you all for you nice comments and support.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Tony Doherty on October 14, 2007, 04:25:06 PM
someone morph this pic so that jay has a boner

Only a kiddy fiddler would ask for that. Go kill yourself Chester!

PS Chester is Australian slang for peadophile (aka chester, chester the child molester)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: WOOO on October 14, 2007, 04:29:22 PM
jay should have been 4th
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: MADMAX6 on October 14, 2007, 05:30:02 PM
No problem Tony, it was my pleasure. I am just glad everything worked out as planned even though we had to change a few things around. Paul and yourself are gentlemen and I m really happy for all the success you guys are getting over there.
Dave
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2007, 05:32:26 PM
No problem Tony, it was my pleasure. I am just glad everything worked out as planned even though we had to change a few things around. Paul and yourself are gentlemen and I m really happy for all the success you guys are getting over there.
Dave

Max,

what are Jay's plans for 2008?  Same as 07 - lots of guest posings then defend the title?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 14, 2007, 05:37:02 PM
Max,

what are Jay's plans for 2008?  Same as 07 - lots of guest posings then defend the title?

Hopefully he hides the insulin and gh in his fridge this year.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: dearth on October 14, 2007, 06:12:33 PM
The best thing is that he was probably in better shape than at the Olympia.

I've noticed that too. Its funny how Jay guest poses in awesome shape year round, then
when its time to compete (only once a year) he shows up looking smooth as a baby butt.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: D_1000 on October 14, 2007, 07:59:55 PM
If those are his real quotes, I am immensely disappointed with Jay. He should not have won this year.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Rottmag on October 14, 2007, 11:48:22 PM
I'm sure most people feel like you guys that's why every show is SOLD OUT!

The same thing happened when Ronnie visited, when Chris visited, when Kevin visited...etc...

If you're gonna continue to hang of Jay's beanbag, Dave, at least have the balls to call a spade, a spade.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Hedgehog on October 14, 2007, 11:55:50 PM
Maybe one of the judges was Australian.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 15, 2007, 01:14:14 AM
I live in Melbourne and I wouldn't cross the street to see Jay Cutler even if the tickets were free.  But, I did go to see Ronnie when he was in town.  Jay just doesn't inspire the way Ronnie did.
Ronnie Coleman at Dohertys gym and guestposing in 2005
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: davidpaul on October 15, 2007, 02:26:59 AM
good old chicken
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Radical Plato on October 15, 2007, 06:02:39 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: phyxsius on October 15, 2007, 06:30:45 AM
;D

That's why Jay said Dennis had structural flaws
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 15, 2007, 06:32:34 AM
;D
look at jays oblique hanging like some kind of lean lovehandle
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: corinth on October 15, 2007, 06:33:37 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 15, 2007, 09:01:28 PM
Jay Cutler interview at the Victorian IFBB Bodybuilding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCX--31Jxt0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCX--31Jxt0)


and  guest posing:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ucURm8yabY&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ucURm8yabY&mode=related&search=)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Pollux on October 16, 2007, 05:26:03 AM
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/klkjl.jpg)(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/jhjhj.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/ghjhj.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/leech2004/jjkhkj.jpg)

OK. See. He actually looks better in these shots than his '07 Olympia shots.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: webcake on October 16, 2007, 05:30:55 AM
Yeah he does look pretty good here.

 But what the fuck is up with his right nipple?? Looks like some gyno developing, but why is it white?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: kawaks on October 16, 2007, 05:34:52 AM
If Jay's such a great Mr. Olympia why is the Euro tour cancelled?

Doesn't Jay have millions of fans in Europe too?

Worst Mr. Olympia ever.


Get over it, son

Jay is the BEST propspect for bodybuilding to get more exposure in the print media
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 16, 2007, 05:45:39 AM
cutler = worst mr olympia winner ever
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 16, 2007, 11:33:07 PM
 Tony & Cutler :) :)


(pic courtesy of dohertysgym.com)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: willie mosconi on October 16, 2007, 11:47:53 PM
cutler = worst mr olympia winner ever

Zane, Dickerson, and Yates (94) were as bad if not worse. I agree Cutler should NOT have won though
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 17, 2007, 04:58:43 AM
Yeah he does look pretty good here.

 But what the fuck is up with his right nipple?? Looks like some gyno developing, but why is it white?

its his wifes fav nipple.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 17, 2007, 05:03:55 AM
Zane, Dickerson, and Yates (94) were as bad if not worse. I agree Cutler should NOT have won though

agreed they sucked too.

zane i think lacked the mass to be mr o. robinson was better than him.

to be honest tho..had zane added 15lbs more mass  he would have been amazing (better than robinson and mentzer) zane had very good arm shape, leg shape, calves..everything.

cockson was not mr o material.

yates 94 should never have stepped on stage: belly and torn bi should disqualify him.

gutler won mr muscletech. wolf won mr o.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Trev on October 17, 2007, 05:06:55 AM
Jay SO represents the picture of health like a Mr O should ....  ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 17, 2007, 05:13:24 AM
Jay Cutler did seminar & guest-posing on October 16th 2007, 7.30pm at Metro City, 146 Roe Street, Northbridge WA. Australia

Any new pics ??
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: phyxsius on October 17, 2007, 05:19:16 AM
Jay Cutler did seminar & guest-posing on October 16th 2007, 7.30pm at Metro City, 146 Roe Street, Northbridge WA. Australia

Any new pics ??

they morphed his right bicep and abs
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 17, 2007, 05:31:21 AM
they morphed his right bicep and abs

they morphed the whole fucking picture.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Trev on October 17, 2007, 05:33:38 AM
they morphed the whole fucking picture.
Ha ha - Thats how Jay looks in his dreams!!!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: bigguns23 on October 17, 2007, 06:24:03 AM
The right nipple looks like it has a giant white head on it.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: DK II on October 17, 2007, 06:31:56 AM
is he lactating in that pics??  :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: musclecenter on October 17, 2007, 07:07:40 AM
(Pics courtesy of flexonline.com)

Thanks to MADMAX6
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Mars on October 17, 2007, 07:10:24 AM
what a fucking disaster this fellow is.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 17, 2007, 07:22:55 AM
Was he on antibiotics leading up to the Olympia?

Again, what was the illness?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 17, 2007, 04:33:41 PM
Was he on antibiotics leading up to the Olympia?

Again, what was the illness?

palumboism
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: bigguns23 on October 17, 2007, 04:49:22 PM
(Pics courtesy of flexonline.com)

Thanks to MADMAX6


Gotta admit he looks beastly there
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: tomgreynolds on October 19, 2007, 02:33:47 PM
That promotional picture isn't morphed, it's flipped. Check it out, his right bicep and left bicep are the opposites of what they really are, and the cut above his upper abs is switched to the other side too.

Why would someone mirror his pic?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 19, 2007, 04:18:59 PM
That promotional picture isn't morphed, it's flipped. Check it out, his right bicep and left bicep are the opposites of what they really are, and the cut above his upper abs is switched to the other side too.

Why would someone mirror his pic?

bullshit its clearly altered.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler guest-pose in Australia (Oct 13-21)
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 19, 2007, 04:26:16 PM
What illness?

CrapGeneticsItis