Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: thewickedtruth on October 15, 2007, 12:06:10 PM
-
Would you have more power in a sumo stance vs a conventional stance? Kinda like you get more out of a wider stance on the squat that wiht your feet close together? Not only that but it seems to bring the distance you have to move the weight down SIGNIFICANTLY! Am I wront on any of these observations? The reason I ask, I love pulling conventional but, I just watched a video of a highschool kid pick up 830lbs in the deadlift in a singlet during a highschool powerlifting meet on youtube.
It would be a nice change of pace to flip flop both styles and see hwo well they work.
-
it's a different animal all together, sumos require practice and a lot of stretching, you have to be extremely flexible in your hips, adductors and hamstrings to pull sumos, a lot of guys think they will automatically pull a lot more sumo due to the ROM but they don't realize its a completely different movement with different muscles being stressed.
-
it's a different animal all together, sumos require practice and a lot of stretching, you have to be extremely flexible in your hips, adductors and hamstrings to pull sumos, a lot of guys think they will automatically pull a lot more sumo due to the ROM but they don't realize its a completely different movement with different muscles being stressed.
100% right... i can't sumo fuck all... plus i think they look totally stupid :)
-
i used to lift sumo, when switched to conventional i did not notice any difference in poundages
-
sumos are fairly worthless for bodybuilding as there is only half the ROM as regular deads honestly.
-
sumos are fairly worthless for bodybuilding
considering the source, that's pretty much the funniest thing I've read here in a while.
;D
-
Sumo is great for short guys who have strong legs. i always pulled my groin on max pulls when i did them sumo, so i've stuck with conventional DL's for the last 5 years.
Conventional can be great if you sit back and drive with your heals. too many guys turn it into a stiff leg deadlift, but many big lifters pull this way. if you can get your hips low you will pull big numbers in the regular DL.
8)
-
I have always competed sumo style. 5'6" 132 plound class Fits me better I tried conventional one off season, It felt like I was pulling forever! Sumo seems like I'm up in no time.
I do train conventional during any off season time, and switch back to sumo 12 weeks out from a meet
-
considering the source, that's pretty much the funniest thing I've read here in a while.
;D
geo left the x board???????? ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o
-
Would you have more power in a sumo stance vs a conventional stance? Kinda like you get more out of a wider stance on the squat that wiht your feet close together? Not only that but it seems to bring the distance you have to move the weight down SIGNIFICANTLY! Am I wront on any of these observations? The reason I ask, I love pulling conventional but, I just watched a video of a highschool kid pick up 830lbs in the deadlift in a singlet during a highschool powerlifting meet on youtube.
It would be a nice change of pace to flip flop both styles and see hwo well they work.
I pull sumo for 4 main reasons. 1. im too fat to get my hips down right conventional. 2. I have t-rex arms. 3. A long torso. These make for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOng conventional pull. 4. you can use more gear pulling sumo :D
Jason
-
:D have u ever deadlifted mr delusional ?
Surely of all the people on this board, youre not calling someone delusional.
Jason
-
I'd call u delusional too since I bet your deadlift is about 225x3 :D
Wrong like 2 boys fukking in church
A near miss :)
Jason
-
I have always competed sumo style. 5'6" 132 plound class Fits me better I tried conventional one off season, It felt like I was pulling forever! Sumo seems like I'm up in no time.
I do train conventional during any off season time, and switch back to sumo 12 weeks out from a meet
This is pretty much were I am at.
Although I train even more conventional, only the last 4-5 weeks are sumo only.
The sumo deadlift is IMO all about foot placement. Some guys don't find a position where they get any leverage.
Others do.
For awhile, I was hit or miss. It took me a year to get fairly consistent with the sumo.
-
Wrong like 2 boys fukking in church
A near miss :)
Jason
Here u go "popo" ...( slang for homo ;) )
-
Here u go "popo" ...( slang for homo ;) )
Ive got some squat vids too, snakecharmer.
I thought this was a DL thread. :D
Jason
Jason
-
Ive got some squat vids too, snakecharmer.
I thought this was a DL thread. :D
Jason
Jason
hahahahhaa, "snakecharmer", all kidding aside i find it hilarious to see "sevendickstotease" calling out a guy who has VIDEO PROOF of him squatting 800 pounds and pulling 650.
-
Should I post the squat vids for him too?
Jason
-
Here u go "popo" ...( slang for homo ;) )
Last warning in this thread.
No trolling, bullshitting on the training board.
You wanna call me or anyone else a homo, fine, there are about twenty other boards to do that.
But not on the Training Board.
Cool?
-
This is pretty much were I am at.
The sumo deadlift is IMO all about foot placement. Some guys don't find a position where they get any leverage.
Others do.
For awhile, I was hit or miss. It took me a year to get fairly consistent with the sumo.
I agree. once you find it though!!!! My feet are where the ring is on the bar with my feet turned out just a little. I get that great drive you need off the floor.
-
I agree. once you find it though!!!! My feet are where the ring is on the bar with my feet turned out just a little. I get that great drive you need off the floor.
Ditto.
But right now, I seem to have a bit of a slump in my sumo technique actually. :-\
One thing I've discovered, is that the sumo technique is very sensitive to strength increases as well as to increases in weight. A couple of pounds, and you're angles are slightly off.
-
One thing I've discovered, is that the sumo technique is very sensitive to strength increases as well as to increases in weight. A couple of pounds, and you're angles are slightly off.
You mean in body weight or barbell weight?
-
Im sure he means bodyweight. Mine makes huge flucuations sometimes, and it changes my form a touch. As far as the sumo goes, Im trying to get a hook grip, as it seems that if I miss, its not due to a weakness, its due to the bar windmilling away from me and coming out of the groove.
Jason
-
Yeah ok makes sense. As a lighter weight guy my weight don't fluculate that much so wasn't sure.
-
Yeah ok makes sense. As a lighter weight guy my weight don't fluculate that much so wasn't sure.
Pegg's right.
Well, I'm around 198.
It seems that there are 2 factors that fcuks up my groove.
Strength increases
and
bodyweight increases.
Eg, currently my hamstring strength has gone up over the last 3-4 months. Done some SLDL's.
And I thought it would directly convert into a better deadlift. Not quite so, apparently. Right now, the timing of my pull is off.
Back in May, I had minor problems with the hamstrings, got a minor injury, which healed up in about 3 weeks. That isn't a problem anymore, and I will probably be able to pull more once I get the timing and groove back, but it's kind of frustrating to not "feel" that power zone. ;D