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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: dknole on October 17, 2007, 11:28:29 AM
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Hi, I am trying to find any studies on Kre-alaklyn that demonstrate it to be superior to regular creatine (monohydrate) - does this exist? None in PubMed, None in Google Scholar, None in Sport Discus or any academic (scientific) search engine?
The owner has said his data is for the patents and he can't release it (would not hold up if someone were to sue them), so does anyone know the real deal?
Is this company just another one of smoke and mirrors?
Doug kalman
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There was a study performed (independent, as far as I know) which demonstrated that Kre-Alkalyn converted to creatinine more readily and was a less effective product than plain old monohydrate. It's in the archives here somewhere.
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SCAM.
monohydrate is good.
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SCAM.
monohydrate is good.
agreed
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Define efficiency?
The saturation of creatine phosphate stores is a process.
Even if kre-alkalyn is more "efficient," it can't increase the maximum storage level of creatine phosphate stores.
You might reach that saturation level a day sooner.
if that is worth the increased price, buy the more expensive product.
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There was a study performed (independent, as far as I know) which demonstrated that Kre-Alkalyn converted to creatinine more readily and was a less effective product than plain old monohydrate. It's in the archives here somewhere.
That's right. I also wouldn't expect much more research to be done on it as this was not done using the traditional epidemiological methods (comparing groups) but in a lab. Outside of supplement company reps, I would guess the scientific consensus would say it's a dud.
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/kre.html
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That's right. I also wouldn't expect much more research to be done on it as this was not done using the traditional epidemiological methods (comparing groups) but in a lab. Outside of supplement company reps, I would guess the scientific consensus would say it's a dud.
What's the word on CEE (ethyl-ester)?
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Check the patent website. What it says is that it's basically baking soda mixed with creatine mono.
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What's the word on CEE (ethyl-ester)?
I don't know, but I would bet the farm that it is no better than monohydrate. Supplement and drug companies often just change the active ingredient by one bond that does nothing but because it is based on a "new improved chemical makeup" or whatever claim they use now, they put out a non-refereed study to support it's improvement. It's similar to how a supplement company in the past slightly modified the structure of a chemical so that it was not legally a steroid/pro-hormone, but realistically it was not different in the illegal variant.
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Im using it right now.. dont really notice anything from it.. dont really care cause I got the bottle for free :)
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Hi, I am trying to find any studies on Kre-alaklyn that demonstrate it to be superior to regular creatine (monohydrate) - does this exist? None in PubMed, None in Google Scholar, None in Sport Discus or any academic (scientific) search engine?
The owner has said his data is for the patents and he can't release it (would not hold up if someone were to sue them), so does anyone know the real deal?
Is this company just another one of smoke and mirrors?
Doug kalman
Hi Doug! I would just beleive the supp company. I mean they wouldn't lie to the public just to get you to buy the product and make money...would they? They wouldn't intentionally misinterpret a medical study...would they? They wouldn't create fake scientific sounding words...would they?
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I prefer krealkalyn wayyyyyyy more than monoholydrate
Elite-k is way better in my own "research"
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ancedotal......look it up! they use ancedotal research...... :P
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I actually did use kre alkalyn back in the summer. And in all honesty, I'd seen better results from plain creatine mono.