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Title: wrist straps
Post by: Deadpool on October 17, 2007, 05:30:38 PM
just got a pair

up till now I had never used them

should be good to increase back workout poundages

thoughts?
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: wes on October 17, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
Always good to use on back day as the grip will usually give out long before the back is fully taxed.

Work your grip on a seperate day for those posters who always bitch that straps cause a weak grip. :)

As a bodybuilder,my back is being judged onstage not my grip but I do train my forearms and grip also.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Bluto on October 17, 2007, 06:44:38 PM
might also help if you get pump in forearms which i personally hate because that prevents me from working my back to the fullest

always amazed at the whole idea of getting pump is so wonderful when at times it stops you from working out properly
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 17, 2007, 09:14:49 PM
Just like a belt and wrist wrap or knee wraps....it's just another tool in hte box!!! Dont' let it be an end all though, only use them whenever your grip is legitimately failing out and you're unable to finish the set. If you hafta use them to be able to focus on moving the weight and not worry about your grip go for it. I'd prefer to use chalk but you cant chalk up on ever machine or lift in most gyms because it makes a big ass mess. Looks liek one big ass coke party. 
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 10:47:12 AM
just got a pair

up till now I had never used them

should be good to increase back workout poundages

thoughts?

good for higher rep stuff like 20 rep deads,but if you're using them for everything (pull ups.pull downs,pullups) you're cheating your bi's and forearms out of a workout
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 18, 2007, 12:38:32 PM
good for higher rep stuff like 20 rep deads,but if you're using them for everything (pull ups.pull downs,pullups) you're cheating your bi's and forearms out of a workout

Holy shit, I know you didn't just say you are cheating your Bi's out of a workout during your back routine....fool. I use the straps because it almost completly takes my bis out of the mix making my back do all the work.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 18, 2007, 01:01:02 PM
Holy shit, I know you didn't just say you are cheating your Bi's out of a workout during your back routine....fool. I use the straps because it almost completly takes my bis out of the mix making my back do all the work.

Do us a favor and don't ever give any advice anymore. That's got to be one of the most uneducated things in regards to training that I've ever heard anyone say.  Straps taking the biceps out of back work....I'd like to hear you explain that one off wiht any sort of intelligent argument.


Clown.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: The Squadfather on October 18, 2007, 01:15:24 PM
Do us a favor and don't ever give any advice anymore. That's got to be one of the most uneducated things in regards to training that I've ever heard anyone say.  Straps taking the biceps out of back work....I'd like to hear you explain that one off wiht any sort of intelligent argument.


Clown.
exactly, straps have nothing to do with that.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 01:51:11 PM
Holy shit, I know you didn't just say you are cheating your Bi's out of a workout during your back routine....fool. I use the straps because it almost completly takes my bis out of the mix making my back do all the work.

it ain't my fault you're a pussy

 ;D
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 01:58:33 PM
Do us a favor and don't ever give any advice anymore. That's got to be one of the most uneducated things in regards to training that I've ever heard anyone say.  Straps taking the biceps out of back work....I'd like to hear you explain that one off Whit any sort of intelligent argument.


Clown.

you just contradicted yourself....on one hand you say you use straps to put the entire load on your back and then ya call me a fool for saying it helps take your bi's out of the equation (which is what you're saying)

think before you respond dipshit !

Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 18, 2007, 02:02:06 PM
you just contradicted yourself....on one hand you say you use straps to put the entire load on your back and then ya call me a fool for saying it helps take your bi's out of the equation (which is what you're saying)

think before you respond dipshit !



look fag, the goal IS to take your bi's out of the equation. That is a plus to using the straps. The less you are "grabbing" the bar the more emphasis is placed on your back.

You are saying to not use straps so that your bi's recieve a workout during your back routine...not exactly the goal
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 18, 2007, 02:02:49 PM
you just contradicted yourself....on one hand you say you use straps to put the entire load on your back and then ya call me a fool for saying it helps take your bi's out of the equation (which is what you're saying)

think before you respond dipshit !




I think you qouted the wrong person there homeslice. I never once said that straps put the whole load on the back.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 18, 2007, 02:05:09 PM
look fag, the goal IS to take your bi's out of the equation. That is a plus to using the straps. The less you are "grabbing" the bar the more emphasis is placed on your back.

You are saying to not use straps so that your bi's recieve a workout during your back routine...not exactly the goal

Do you even know what strapps are for? You will never be able to take your bi's out of back work EVER! PERIOD! Straps are used to help supplement your GRIP when you're training to help you hold onto and handle heavier weight than you'd normally not be able to to better work your back OR if your grip ins't strong enough to keep up with the number of sets, reps, weight, etc. you might require to train your back with. Straps have ZERO to do with bi's..wtf you doing...using htem to hold your ipod nano around your arms for an armband?!  ???
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 02:07:29 PM
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You are saying to not use straps so that your bi's receive a workout during your back routine...not exactly the goal

no Einstein ,I'm saying if I'm in a rep range with deads (more than 12) I can see strappin up,but if you need to strap up for less you either need more grip work and need to stop relying on straps
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 18, 2007, 02:08:27 PM
no Einstein ,I'm saying if I'm in a rep range with deads (more than 12) I can see strappin up,but if you need to strap up for less you either need more grip work and need to stop relying on straps

GOOD POST!
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 18, 2007, 02:09:08 PM
Do you even know what strapps are for? You will never be able to take your bi's out of back work EVER! PERIOD! Straps are used to help supplement your GRIP when you're training to help you hold onto and handle heavier weight than you'd normally not be able to to better work your back OR if your grip ins't strong enough to keep up with the number of sets, reps, weight, etc. you might require to train your back with. Straps have ZERO to do with bi's..wtf you doing...using htem to hold your ipod nano around your arms for an armband?!  ???

read it again jackass...."because it almost  completly takes my bis out"

I know it doesn't do so completely

However it is true that the less you grip the bar, the less your bi's are active
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 02:10:37 PM


However it is true that the less you grip the bar, the less your bi's are active

thank you jackass......

a simple apology for wasting my time will suffice !

 ;D
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 18, 2007, 02:14:36 PM
no Einstein ,I'm saying if I'm in a rep range with deads (more than 12) I can see strappin up,but if you need to strap up for less you either need more grip work and need to stop relying on straps

I don't care about my grip strength..I keep track of my upper/lower arm relation. My forearms are plenty big, so when I use the straps...like it or not..I am pulling more with my back and my bi's are used less.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: triple_pickle on October 18, 2007, 04:25:13 PM
i tried using them couple of times for deads and rows but when you wrap them around a bar, the bar becomes thicker therefore making your grip weaker, at least this is how it feels to me.  now chalk is the only thing i use.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: The Squadfather on October 18, 2007, 04:27:26 PM
they ball up in my hand, i like chalk too.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: LENSNART on October 18, 2007, 04:43:26 PM
1. grip is dependant on finger strength not forearm

2. Improve grip do holds for 30sec or more with heavy weights

3.Most major biceps tears on deads, occur with the under grip hand. Straps and front grip take this issue away.

4. Strapless takes considerable concentration away from the main issue, and becomes, don't slip, don't slip, rather than pullllllllll

Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 05:24:59 PM
1. grip is dependant on finger strength not forearm

2. Improve grip do holds for 30sec or more with heavy weights

3.Most major biceps tears on deads, occur with the under grip hand. Straps and front grip take this issue away.

4. Strapless takes considerable concentration away from the main issue, and becomes, don't slip, don't slip, rather than pullllllllll



I got one for ya....

5...if you can't hold onto your 8 rep max without straps (with chalk) you probably have a womans handshake...

 ;)
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 18, 2007, 05:30:03 PM
I got one for ya....

5...if you can't hold onto your 8 rep max without straps (with chalk) you probably have a womans handshake...

 ;)

Around here we call those "bitch hands"  ;D
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 05:32:51 PM
Around here we call those "bitch hands"  ;D

around here we call em militarymuscle hands
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 18, 2007, 05:34:36 PM
around here we call em militarymuscle hands



LMFAO!  bravo!  ;D
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 18, 2007, 07:07:36 PM
wow, really showed me....pretty intelligent comeback....when was the last time mr olympia was judged on his grip strength. Maybe you guys just need to learn how to actually lift and work the targeted muscle. Why do queers like you worry so much about grip strength? You in a strongest man comp or something?
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 18, 2007, 07:19:02 PM
Here Geo..watch this fitshow episode where Schlierkamp explains how to use straps and how to build a back, try and pay attention and you too might have a lats someday

http://webcast.bodybuilding.com/fitshow/fitshow/posedown/fitshow.htm

episodes 2 and 4...

I know you are one of those guys in the gym barely moving weight and even that little movement comes with horrible form and you leave the gymon back day with a hell of a bicep pump but nothing in the back.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: John O on October 18, 2007, 07:51:56 PM
do you guys know how foolish you look! a simple question about wrist straps and ya'll are name calling like a couple of 10 year olds!  ::) ::)

If you like them use them! If not, don't. Not that hard.  I don't like them myself I like to just use grip Strength ....  Even using strick form I still get a bicep pump.
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: Geo on October 18, 2007, 10:31:43 PM
Here Geo..watch this fitshow episode where Schlierkamp explains how to use straps


no !
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 19, 2007, 05:09:36 AM
do you guys know how foolish you look! a simple question about wrist straps and ya'll are name calling like a couple of 10 year olds!  ::) ::)

If you like them use them! If not, don't. Not that hard.  I don't like them myself I like to just use grip Strength ....  Even using strick form I still get a bicep pump.

You obviously don't know me John...I use GB.com to vent and act like a 10 year old..the whole fun of being anonymous
Title: Re: wrist straps
Post by: powerpack on October 19, 2007, 09:55:04 AM
I use them on deads, stiff deads and the final few sets of rows.
I also used them earlier this year to help rehab a fore arm muscle I pulled.
I think they are great