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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on October 18, 2007, 06:22:26 PM
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Think about it years before MMA you had to actually know a fighting style, it took years to develop your technique, today it's called MMA and all you need to know is bits and pieces.
It's fucking pathetic.
And don't get me wrong here, some of these guys who I have seen fight would most possible kick my motherloving ass, but I hate it when they make it sound like it's a new way of fighting...it's not new it's called brawling.
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Foreigner meltdown..
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Foreigner meltdown..
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;D
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sad that "sprawl and brawl" is a recognized MMA fighting technique. avoid the takedown and punch the other guy in the face.
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sad that "sprawl and brawl" is a recognized MMA fighting technique. avoid the takedown and punch the other guy in the face.
Shouldn't you be outside lifting pebbles?
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MMA is for assholes
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Shouldn't you be outside lifting pebbles?
im at work, earning my paycheck unlike you welfare urchins.
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im at work, earning my paycheck unlike you welfare urchins.
lol okay "kegdrainer"
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im at work, earning my paycheck unlike you welfare urchins.
It's 6:30 at night, the gay bar you dance at just open or what?
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i like mma. although the 2 have nothing to do with one another mma could help bbing out. they both came from similar beginings. they only had a cult following. now look at it. i wish bbing would do the same
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MMA used to be so much cooler!
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Think about it years before MMA you had to actually know a fighting style, it took years to develop your technique, today it's called MMA and all you need to know is bits and pieces.
It's fucking pathetic.
And don't get me wrong here, some of these guys who I have seen fight would most possible kick my motherloving ass, but I hate it when they make it sound like it's a new way of fighting...it's not new it's called brawling.
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It's 6:30 at night, the gay bar you dance at just open or what?
its 9:30 here on the east coast, and there is no sleep in the NOC
(not the Night of Champions, the Network Operation Center)
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its 9:30 here on the east coast, and there is no sleep in the NOC
(not the Night of Champions, the Network Operation Center)
AAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHHHAHA you answer phones and tell people not to kill themselves??hahahahah
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AAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHHHAHA you answer phones and tell people not to kill themselves??hahahahah
no I maintain dsl architechture. phone work is for nubs who dont have their ccna.
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no I maintain dsl architechture. phone work is for nubs who dont have their ccna.
So when I call the help hotline, you're the Pakistani named "Brian" that doesn't speak a word of english and tries to help me get the porno popups of my computer???
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So when I call the help hotline, you're the Pakistani named "Brian" that doesn't speak a word of english and tries to help me get the porno popups of my computer???
no, when you call the help hotline you get one of our internet help desk technicians. we do not outsource. 100% of our calls are taken by one of two call centers, Rochester NY and Houston TX. We have the lowest tech turnover rate of any ISP in the country
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no, when you call the help hotline you get one of our internet help desk technicians. we do not outsource. 100% of our calls are taken by one of two call centers, Rochester NY and Houston TX. We have the lowest tech turnover rate of any ISP in the country
I bet you're one of those guys that "gets a sense of pride" from their work huh?.
and btw sounds like a great compny you got guys like you logging on getbig refreshing the page and answering questions every 2 seconds ::)
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As far as being a lame sport, MMA is proving to have a much broader appeal than bodybuilding will ever have. Though many can relate and admire the brutal training, discipline and the all consuming life style a professional, and even an amatuer, bodybuilder leads few will ever become fans of huge muscle bound men all oiled up in thongs flexing their muscles while they elbow each other vying for attention. The pose down has become almost an embarassment. This is not even to mention the individual routines which have become part rap dance part gay stripper. Think Will Harris and Dareem.
Combat sports have always held a fascination with the general public. It's primal nature and the fact that the world is still ruled by force whether by bombs, guns or fist the ability to fight, and to have a fighting spirit, will always be admired if not strive for. If your complaint is that you don't like the way or the style of combat then perhaps you can suggest a better and more effective style that can withstand a real world test in the ring or cage. Remember when the UFC first started it pitted experts from various disciplines (Karate, boxing, Muy Thai, Wrestling). At that time it was Jiu-Jitsu that dominated because no could defend the take down except wrestlers who were lost when it came to defending the submissions. What we see now is a Darwinian amalgam of various styles. One must be proficient on the ground and standing up.
I don't think anybody claimed it was a new way of fighting. It was/is a new sport which most resembles actual hand to hand combat. When I first saw a tape of a Jiu-Jitsu fighter making short work on the ground against a Golden Gloves boxer it just looked to me like wrestling. Nothing special. It's only when I started training and became more educated that I began to appreciate the intricacies and even the beauty of a skilled fighter. I look at that same tape now and see so much more than when I first saw it. Similar to when I first saw Pumping Iron. They all looked pretty much the same to me. Just huge muscle bound guys. I didn't know how one could tell the difference between them. It's only after time and experience, e.g., working at an old school gym with competitive BBs, reading magazines and such that it was clear to me after subsequent viewing of Pumping Iron that Arnold was just in a different league than anybody else.
Perhaps, my friend, it is lack of education and experience that is causing you to miss the complexities of MMA causing you to view these great athletes as mere brawlers. MMA is the sport of the future. If boxing and professional wrestling can be big business than it's only a matter of time before MMA will be just, if not more, popular. Bodybuilding will never ever be a popular and mainstream sport. Many people like to train like bodybuilders but few have any ambitions to be on stage oiled up in a thong flexing their muscles as if to say "Hey, everybody! Look at me!" Even massive bodybuilders strolling along in public is more likely to be scorn and ridiculed than admired.
Think about it years before MMA you had to actually know a fighting style, it took years to develop your technique, today it's called MMA and all you need to know is bits and pieces.
It's fucking pathetic.
And don't get me wrong here, some of these guys who I have seen fight would most possible kick my motherloving ass, but I hate it when they make it sound like it's a new way of fighting...it's not new it's called brawling.
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MMA is not Martial Arts. It is a fighting style, like boxing, but with a completly different set of rules. It really helps to know a good bit of striking and wrestling with submission. If you want to learn a "Martial Art", go take Karate or Tea kwon do, or something of the sort. If you want something different, then create it and see if people will watch it. Boxing and kick boxing was missing a bunch of fans that MMA picked up. It sells, but that doesn't mean you have to like it.
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MMA is not Martial Arts. It is a fighting style, like boxing, but with a completly different set of rules. It really helps to know a good bit of striking and wrestling with submission. If you want to learn a "Martial Art", go take Karate or Tea kwon do, or something of the sort. If you want something different, then create it and see if people will watch it. Boxing and kick boxing was missing a bunch of fans that MMA picked up. It sells, but that doesn't mean you have to like it.
Perhaps this is just semantics but I always considered martial arts as the art of fighting. There are different means and styles of fighting but it's still fighting or perhaps more accurately termed combat. I consider Kendo and Kenjitsu or Kali and Escrima to be martial arts. Judo is a martial art as well as Jiu-Jitsu. I think Mixed Martial Arts is simply that: a mix of various martial arts though most that go into MMA have a "base" martial art in which they started out on and simply build upon that. The reason why so many have a Brasilian Jiu-Jitsu background is because this type of fighting, Vale Tudo (anything goes), has been going on in Brasil for decades due to the Gracie family.
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I think that MMA is the ultimate sport, followed by strong man events! My opinion...
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i like mma and i would recommend that you go check out my board - the mma board - on here at getbig out! :)
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MMA/Tapout=White Trash Guys who can't box
Hope this helps.
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MMA/Tapout=White Trash Guys who can't box
Hope this helps.
why would they box? it's an inferior fighting style, in the ring and on the street
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MMA is the most technical sport in the world.
If you want to see some great technical fighters check out:
Carlos Newton
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zhx4_carlos-the-ronin-newton-hl_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zhx4_carlos-the-ronin-newton-hl_sport)
Antonio Nogueira
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1v4qn_antonio-nogueira_extreme (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1v4qn_antonio-nogueira_extreme)
Anderson Silva
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x334e5_anderson-silva-vs-nathan-marquardt_extreme (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x334e5_anderson-silva-vs-nathan-marquardt_extreme)
Fedor Emelianenko (The Most Dangerous Man in the World)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zeui_fedor-by-genghis-con_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zeui_fedor-by-genghis-con_sport)
George St-Pierre
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw50s_gsphlv1bygwmma_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw50s_gsphlv1bygwmma_sport)
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fedor isnt the worlds most dangerous man, ken shamrock is!
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Seriously though there isn't a person in the world that can beat him in hand to hand combat. He has no weaknesses at all.
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i bet he would be beaten in a street fight
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Think about it years before MMA you had to actually know a fighting style, it took years to develop your technique, today it's called MMA and all you need to know is bits and pieces.
It's fucking pathetic.
And don't get me wrong here, some of these guys who I have seen fight would most possible kick my motherloving ass, but I hate it when they make it sound like it's a new way of fighting...it's not new it's called brawling.
Agreed. @ guys taking wild swings at eachother and rolling around on the mat for an hour like a couple of queers. No martial art skill whatsoever.
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i bet he would be beaten in a street fight
You are a complete idiot.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26sfw_best-of-fedor_extreme (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26sfw_best-of-fedor_extreme)
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You are a complete idiot.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26sfw_best-of-fedor_extreme (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26sfw_best-of-fedor_extreme)
the ring is not the street
on the street there are no rules
looks like you're the idiot here!
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Agreed. @ guys taking wild swings at eachother and rolling around on the mat for an hour like a couple of queers. No martial art skill whatsoever.
You are a complete idiot
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1gi5i_mirko-cro-cop-filipovic-highlights_extreme (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1gi5i_mirko-cro-cop-filipovic-highlights_extreme)
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the ring is not the street
on the street there are no rules
looks like you're the idiot here!
You are a complete idiot
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You are a complete idiot
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1gi5i_mirko-cro-cop-filipovic-highlights_extreme (http://://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1gi5i_mirko-cro-cop-filipovic-highlights_extreme)
whats with the videos? dont make your argument any better if thats what you think
not even gonna click em
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the ring is not the street
on the street there are no rules
looks like you're the idiot here!
You and me know and I honestly can say that i have been in a lot of fights, I don't say I'm good at it at all that would be a lie, but i have been around and in a shit loads of fights at one time in my life.
Now having this said, I am still 101% confinced that a fight on the the street is not the same as in the ring, maybe they look close to be the same but on the street a fight is usualy over in a matter of second, what ever follows after that is punishment, for the most parts if you get hit on the nose you get water in your eyes you can't see shit and you're OUT, a fight against a couple of people who have been fighting before and know what they are doing is over in less that time and I have been there.
there are no techniques in a streetfight, the difference is in the ring even if it looks vicious if he tapsout ::) he can be sure that the hurting will stop in real life tapout will get you a weak smile and a boot in your face for the most parts.
Times are over lomg long time were you had any kind of honor in fighting, today its dirty and you've got to worry if the "oponent" will acctualy stop when you are bleeding on the ground , you have to worry about knifes guns and what ever he they can pick up, there is nothing absolutly nothing good about fighting.
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on the street
there are
NO RULES!
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whats with the videos? dont make your argument any better if thats what you think
not even gonna click em
You're ignorant.
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on the street
there are
NO RULES!
Yeah but you see a lot of these kids will find that out the hard way :D, it's just a male thing we are not much better than the young shimpansee that want to pick a fight with the old guys just because they are itching to show what they can do and how strong they are, they haven't been hurt yet so they don't know what it feels like.
You get older when you have seen stuff you get more carefull.
There is a lot of shit you can do just to intimidate somebody by simply looking that you can back shit up.... I had a lot of incidents in Dublin here were I went around a fight by just looking and acting more convincing than the other guy problem is comes time you're bound to bump into the one guy that actually means business.
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You're ignorant.
im ignorant? youre the one that think a sport is the same thing as a street fight. wtf do you know about anything mchammer?
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Yeah but you see a lot of these kids will find that out the hard way :D, it's just a male thing we are not much better than the young shimpansee that want to pick a fight with the old guys just because they are itching to show what they can do and how strong they are, they haven't been hurt yet so they don't know what it feels like.
You get older when you have seen stuff you get more carefull.
There is a lot of shit you can do just to intimidate somebody by simply looking that you can back shit up.... I had a lot of incidents in Dublin here were I went around a fight by just looking and acting more convincing than the other guy problem is comes time you're bound to bump into the one guy that actually means business.
i didnt know they sold tapout in dublin!
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im ignorant? youre the one that think a sport is the same thing as a street fight. wtf do you know about anything mchammer?
I know that a trained fighter such as Fedor can defeat any unskilled opponent in a street fight.
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i didnt know they sold tapout in dublin!
I'll be super honest I have never ever seen sombody wear a shirt like that, and I tell you there are some douchbags running around in this city.
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I know that a trained fighter such as Fedor can defeat any unskilled opponent in a street fight.
haha i've seen trained fighters getting the shit kicked out of them on the street many times by people who never trained a day in their life
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The early UFC's were No Rules fights.
Those fighters from that era wouldn't last 1 minute in a No Rules fight w/ Fedor.
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I'll be super honest I have never ever seen sombody wear a shirt like that, and I tell you there are some douchbags running around in this city.
you can be the first! ORDER NOW shipping to ireland $20
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haha i've seen trained fighters getting the shit kicked out of them on the street many times by people who never trained a day in their life
I can't stress enough how much of an idiot you are.
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The early UFC's were No Rules fights.
Those fighters from that era wouldn't last 1 minute in a No Rules fight w/ Fedor.
Yeh but you know if it wouldn't be a pussy sport they would have kept it that way, but that way its to dangerous ;)
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The early UFC's were No Rules fights.
Those fighters from that era wouldn't last 1 minute in a No Rules fight w/ Fedor.
its not the same
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I can't stress enough how much of an idiot you are.
you keep saying that because you lack arguments, knowledge and experience :D
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In Pride FC they allowed soccer kicks and stomps to a downed opponent. Unless you think you're going to beat a world-class fighter with biting, eye gouging, or low blows then you're even more of an idiot than I thought.
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In Pride FC they allowed soccer kicks and stomps to a downed opponent. Unless you think you're going to beat a world-class fighter with biting, eye gouging, or low blows then you're even more of an idiot than I thought.
so what, it's still not the same as fighting on the street in a no rules, fight to the death fight!
one is a sport, the other is real
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The videos I posted are proof enough that world-class fighters could literally murder an unskilled opponent in any situation. The stupid claim you're making is like saying anyone off the street could beat a professional powerlifter in a powerlifting contest.
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The videos I posted are proof enough that world-class fighters could literally murder an unskilled opponent in any situation. The stupid claim you're making is like saying anyone off the street could beat a professional powerlifter in a powerlifting contest.
prove nothing.
tyson had a street fight, he was scared as hell, he admitted it himself. broke his hand in the process.
streets is a different ballgame.
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so what, it's still not the same as fighting on the street in a no rules, fight to the death fight!
one is a sport, the other is real
The only way an unskill average joe can beat a world-class fighter in the street is with a gun or other leathal weapon. Otherwise the MMA fighter could easily kill an unskilled opponent in a variety of ways.
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The videos I posted are proof enough that world-class fighters could literally murder an unskilled opponent in any situation. The stupid claim you're making is like saying anyone off the street could beat a professional powerlifter in a powerlifting contest.
God your stupid... It's not the same, there is not skill required to hit somebody it's a combination of luck how fast you are and how much you are willing to pay to NOT get your ass kicked, of course there are plenty of guys out there that would ram one of these guys in the ground.... For the last time... fighting in the ring and fighting on the street is not the same, guess what otherwise we would see a new sport emerge tomorrow... the equivalent to the Backyard Wrestling.... Streetfighting.
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The only way an unskill average joe can beat a world-class fighter in the street is with a gun or other leathal weapon. Otherwise the MMA fighter could easily kill an unskilled opponent in a variety of ways.
depends on how the fighter would be able to handle the pressure of a street fight. and he can't train for that.
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The only way an unskill average joe can beat a world-class fighter in the street is with a gun or other leathal weapon. Otherwise the MMA fighter could easily kill an unskilled opponent in a variety of ways.
You just proove to me that you NEVER EVER FUCKINH EVER had a fight...your last fight was in second class fighting for your luchbox.
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prove nothing.
tyson had a street fight, he was scared as hell, he admitted it himself. broke his hand in the process.
streets is a different ballgame.
You know absolutely nothing. The street fight you are referring to was Tyson Vs. Mitch Green in Bronx NY circa 1988. Tyson never claimed to be scared and he did break his fist on Mitch's face, and Mitch's face required reconstructive surgery after that altercation.
Please stop acting like you know anything about fighting.
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You know absolutely nothing. The street fight you are referring to was Tyson Vs. Mitch Green in Bronx NY circa 1988. Tyson never claimed to be scared and he did break his fist on Mitch's face, and Mitch's face required reconstructive surgery after that altercation.
Please stop acting like you know anything about fighting.
''I haven't been in a street fight in seven years,'' said Tyson. ''I was scared. He hit me in the chest. I hit him over the eye or something. He came back again. I had no other choice but to defend myself. He was not in a good state of mind. He was upset.''
OWNED
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''We were sitting in the store,'' said Berry, a former St. John's forward, ''when Mitch Green came around and began harassing Mike about how Don King owed him money. When we got outside, Mike was going to the car. Mitch Green grabbed his shirt and ripped it. Mike shoved him down to the ground. Mitch come up swinging. Mike told him: 'I don't want to fight you.' '' Tyson 'Was Scared'
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"Smalls said that as Tyson left the scene by car, Green chased after the vehicle, beating on it with his hands."
there we have it.
green said he was scared. tyson admitted he was scared. and ran off like a little bitch and was chased by green!
that's how the baddest man of the planet, acted on the street!
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Bahahahahah owned...
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You and Stark pw3d yourselves a long time ago with your idiotic responses. Anyone familiar with fighting (MMA, boxing, kickboxing) are laughing their asses off reading your ignorant responses on this thread. Neither of you even know how to throw a punch and you're both small to boot.
ta ta
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You and Stark pw3d yourselves a long time ago with your idiotic responses. Anyone familiar with fighting (MMA, boxing, kickboxing) are laughing their asses off reading your ignorant responses on this thread. Neither of you even know how to throw a punch and you're both small to boot.
ta ta
Are you runnning out of arguments Hammer ?
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haha mchammer is dancing outta this thread
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haha mchammer is dancing outta this thread
(http://files.myopera.com/velmu/blog/MCHammer.jpg)
naaananananaaa *can't touch this*...;D
Man those "twirls" in the backgroud of that image were like shithard to do in these days bahahaha
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I think Pudzi would be more dangerous in a streetfight than Tyson...
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I think Pudzi would be more dangerous in a streetfight than Tyson...
in all fairness if Tyson (back in the days) hit's you AND if his fist actually connects with your face...you're done, remember how that guy
hits.
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thats why someone like tank abbott who is both a cagefighter and a street fighter is more dangerous than someone more skilled in the ring
(http://www.longhaulbikers.com/tankabbottsm.jpg)
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Think about it years before MMA you had to actually know a fighting style, it took years to develop your technique, today it's called MMA and all you need to know is bits and pieces.
It's fucking pathetic.
And don't get me wrong here, some of these guys who I have seen fight would most possible kick my motherloving ass, but I hate it when they make it sound like it's a new way of fighting...it's not new it's called brawling.
your biggest mistake was saying "develop a technique"....a "technique" is only good against the same type of fighting style....for example boxers are fucked the second they go down on the ground or are held, because their "technique" has taught them the stop fighting at this point
i respect all fighters but MMA is obviously the evolutionized fighting...anyone has the right to get in a MMA ring and prove those fighters wrong
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your biggest mistake was saying "develop a technique"....a "technique" is only good against the same type of fighting style....for example boxers are fucked the second they go down on the ground or are held, because their "technique" has taught them the stop fighting at this point
i respect all fighters but MMA is obviously the evolutionized fighting...anyone has the right to get in a MMA ring and prove those fighters wrong
or they can leave the ring and hit the streets proving how superior they are!
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or they can leave the ring and hit the streets proving how superior they are!
yeah....streetfights are the real test....the only bad thing is you always end up with other people jumping in or
using weapons....or of course the asshole cops breaking it up
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yeah....streetfights are the real test....the only bad thing is you always end up with other people jumping in or
using weapons....or of course the asshole cops breaking it up
i was playing ta san andreas yesterday and the same shit happens there
as soon there's a good fight between gangbangers the cops comes and breaks it up and try to arrest me
shitty game for ruining the fun :( >:(
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Think about it years before MMA you had to actually know a fighting style, it took years to develop your technique, today it's called MMA and all you need to know is bits and pieces.
It's fucking pathetic.
And don't get me wrong here, some of these guys who I have seen fight would most possible kick my motherloving ass, but I hate it when they make it sound like it's a new way of fighting...it's not new it's called brawling.
I am not a fan nor do I follow MMA fights. I am glad you stated that the guys are legit in terms of fighting ability and to me it seems to be more involved atheltic skill than meere brawling. I sincerely give guys like Chick Lidell their due as real athletes. However, for me, I enjoy reg boxing much more . It is a lot easier to watch the guys since they are not on the floor grappling and most of us find a hard hook or jab easier to relate to.
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MMA/Tapout=White Trash Guys who can't box
Hope this helps.
boxing= black/ latino thugs with pillows on their hands
thats gotta help.
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I bet you're one of those guys that "gets a sense of pride" from their work huh?.
and btw sounds like a great compny you got guys like you logging on getbig refreshing the page and answering questions every 2 seconds ::)
yeah, our stuff works pretty good. Its very rare that something breaks here, but when it does and the shit hits the fan we fix it fast and get back to loungin around. Some days here at the noc we go all day without one alarm going off. We sit around and watch movies or play halo3 on a giant 8 foot screen.....and get paid $80k a year for it.
Upper management knows this and they dont care because when shit happens we get on it like onlyme at old country buffet.
usually its some bullshit.
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yeah, our stuff works pretty good. Its very rare that something breaks here, but when it does and the shit hits the fan we fix it fast and get back to loungin around. Some days here at the noc we go all day without one alarm going off. We sit around and watch movies or play halo3 on a giant 8 foot screen.....and get paid $80k a year for it.
Upper management knows this and they dont care because when shit happens we get on it like onlyme at old country buffet.
usually its some bullshit.
80k a year is decent for that work im jealous.
I love the jab at onlyme ;D but i doubt you come close to the work he puts in at a buffet.
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MMA= an excuse to sniff ass
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is anyone watching the ultimate fighter tv show? perfect example of how the sport has gotten out of hand. they will take just about anyone these days. This guy has taken some jiujitsu classes and now he thinks hes a fighter...got snapped on the chin after 3 minutes on the mat...mouth wide open when he got up he was all winded after rolling for 3 minutes, not even really hard grappling either, he was on his back the whole time. Then he got hit with a right hand on the chin. What did he say when he woke up? He had never been knocked out before. You havent been fighting nearly long enough if youve never been knocked out before.
at least the other guy has been training with bj penn for a few years. Ears all tore up...now theres a guy that fights for a living.
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MMA isn't lame. The UFC is. They promote the sport to 'tough wannabes' by using heavy metal music and thinking they are 'hardcore'.
When an organisation comes up to rival the UFC without their gimmick crap, they'll take over with more mainstream appeal.
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MMA isn't lame. The UFC is. They promote the sport to 'tough wannabes' by using heavy metal music and thinking they are 'hardcore'.
When an organisation comes up to rival the UFC without their gimmick crap, they'll take over with more mainstream appeal.
The "gimmick crap" is what has taken UFC mainstream. They had higher pay-per-views than boxing and the WWE last year. I don't know how much more mainstream they can get.
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The "gimmick crap" is what has taken UFC mainstream. They had higher pay-per-views than boxing and the WWE last year. I don't know how much more mainstream they can get.
yeah but you see what happens when real fighters like rampage come in...lucky punchers like chuck liddell are getting beat. Pretty boy fags like rich franklin who dont train full time get their nose shoved over an inch an a half...Tim silvia had the heavyweight title for how long?
UFC is bringing in more top competitors now, but you have to kiss dana's ass to get to fight there. Theres plenty of guys outside the UFC that would rock the current champs, but for whatever business politics and bullshit there is they arent fighting there.
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the only real fighting is "street fighting".
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yeah but you see what happens when real fighters like rampage come in...lucky punchers like chuck liddell are getting beat. Pretty boy fags like rich franklin who dont train full time get their nose shoved over an inch an a half...Tim silvia had the heavyweight title for how long?
UFC is bringing in more top competitors now, but you have to kiss dana's ass to get to fight there. Theres plenty of guys outside the UFC that would rock the current champs, but for whatever business politics and bullshit there is they arent fighting there.
Just because rich franklin was born good looking doesnt make him a "pretty boy fag" he's still a badass. And if I remember correctly he's fought outside the ufc? And I don't really like Chuck Liddel but it's kinda rough to call him a lucky puncher wouldn't you think? And I don't think you can count Tim Sylvias losses on more than one hand. And he's had over 20 professional fights.
Seems to me UFC has the best fighters in the world right now.
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yes MMA is lame, thats why more people pay $40 to watch a fight than watch the world series for free... ::)
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yes MMA is lame, thats why more people pay $40 to watch a fight than watch the world series for free... ::)
That's because their idiots. MMA fans also start and end too many sentences with "brah."
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just to ebb in,,, 21 yr old mike tyson in a street, ring where ever totaly destroys anything in front of him,,, fastest most powerfull haevyweight ever!!!!!!!!!
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MMA is only lame to guys with useless muscles that won't stop them from being pummeled and submitted by a 140lb 17-year old in a Tapout shirt!
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just to ebb in,,, 21 yr old mike tyson in a street, ring where ever totaly destroys anything in front of him,,, fastest most powerfull haevyweight ever!!!!!!!!!
Tyson was nowhere near as good as Ali. I don't even think Tyson would have beaten Foreman in his prime (who was definitely stronger than Tyson), and Ali let Foreman beat the hell out of him so he would run out of steam. Tyson was only really good against the guys who were terrified of him.
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I'll be working this event next Friday, for Showtime. I'll push some of the fighters around and see what happens. :D
http://www.chumashcasino.com/entertainment/ (http://www.chumashcasino.com/entertainment/)
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oh please, tim the mainiac was a joke. he was good at being tall and throwing a right hand but thats about it. he a fuckin bouncer. He got banned for steroid use once, and remember when Frank Mir broke his arm? The guy is a fuckin clown. Took randy coming out of retirement to show us all that the heavyweight division sucks balls. Randy should be fighting at 205, even he thinks the heavyweight division is a joke. Thats why you have nobodys like brandon vera coming in getting ppv fights.
give it some time. I hate to say it but i think Brock Lesner could come in there and take the belt. hes a fuckin beast and i cant honestly see anyone beating him.
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MMA, in general, is somewhat lame. Not like figure skating or anything, but... While there are some very skilled fighters, many of the "top fighters" have been at it only a few years. Some as little as 2. Take a look at so many of the cast of the TUF series. 2,3,4 years experience, and these are the future stars. It's a low rent pugulist sport. Only one step above "So You Wanna Fight". Although the creme de la creme, guys that have been in combat sports most of their lives, will usually rise to the top, they are greatly outnumbered by bottom feeders. Saying that, I do find it very entertaining, and that's all that really matters.
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oh please, tim the mainiac was a joke. he was good at being tall and throwing a right hand but thats about it. he a fuckin bouncer. He got banned for steroid use once, and remember when Frank Mir broke his arm? The guy is a fuckin clown. Took randy coming out of retirement to show us all that the heavyweight division sucks balls. Randy should be fighting at 205, even he thinks the heavyweight division is a joke. Thats why you have nobodys like brandon vera coming in getting ppv fights.
give it some time. I hate to say it but i think Brock Lesner could come in there and take the belt. hes a fuckin beast and i cant honestly see anyone beating him.
A Wrestling monster but he looks like shit these days. Not in 'great' shape. He's yet to prove himself. I don't doubt him though hes a badass dude. Scary looking. What was it? 5 time undefeated ncaa champ?
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A Wrestling monster but he looks like shit these days. Not in 'great' shape. He's yet to prove himself. I don't doubt him though hes a badass dude. Scary looking. What was it? 5 time undefeated ncaa champ?
hes been fighting in mma...at about 265 lbs, he beat the shit out of a judo silver medalist in like 65 secs...the guy tapped out from punches to the side of the head. The man hits with enough force to shatter bones.... heres a clip
hes got another fight coming up soon i think nov or dec
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Wow i knew the result of that fight but I didnt know it was total domination.
Talk aboutr an overwhelming takedown! Damn... thanks for the link. hes going places
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MMA, in general, is somewhat lame. Not like figure skating or anything, but... While there are some very skilled fighters, many of the "top fighters" have been at it only a few years. Some as little as 2. Take a look at so many of the cast of the TUF series. 2,3,4 years experience, and these are the future stars. It's a low rent pugulist sport. Only one step above "So You Wanna Fight". Although the creme de la creme, guys that have been in combat sports most of their lives, will usually rise to the top, they are greatly outnumbered by bottom feeders. Saying that, I do find it very entertaining, and that's all that really matters.
MMA is actually much worse than figure skating. Tonya Harding getting that guy to take a tire iron to Nancy Kerrigan's leg was much more intense and brutal than any MMA.
(http://z.about.com/d/crime/1/0/g/S/harding_t.jpg)
Tonya to Nancy: "Nancy, I'm gonna take you down, make you Tap Out!"
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In the ring there are rules.
On the street there are not.
To be good in the ring, and have a career, you must obey the rules.
The means knowing what the rules are.
If you know what the rules are, you can break them at any time.
So, if I'm a professional fighter who trains X hours a day, with lighting quick reflexes, bombs for punches, and never ending stamina...
...and I get in a street fight....
am I going to "obey the rules" or go for the most crippling move I know (that I'm not allowed to do in the ring)?
I submit to you that most fighters would choose option B.
Now, also, take into consideration the fighter's opponent "on the street".
If he's not a professional fighter, no experience...
...what chance does he have against a better conditioned athlete with the strength, reflexes, honed accuracy who does nothing but train for one on one combat?
I would say that probability favors the fighter, but there is always a puncher's chance.
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Ive seen lots of karate guys get their asses handed to them in street fights, but a top UFC guy would not have any problems who so ever winning 99 % of any street fights they ever got it.
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MMA isn't lame. The UFC is. They promote the sport to 'tough wannabes' by using heavy metal music and thinking they are 'hardcore'.
When an organisation comes up to rival the UFC without their gimmick crap, they'll take over with more mainstream appeal.
good observation...UFC wasnt always like that, but to attain more audience they are creating a whole 'culture' behind the word mma. THIS really sucks very bad.
Thats why Pride even with the ridiculous fights (like fights with zuluzinho and giant silva) was considered a more 'serious' organization. Because it didnt had all this marketing tool behind it, it was about what it matters, the fighters and the fights itself....
I always loved Vale tudo (fuck mma) from the beginning, when we had down here all the pre historic events when almost everything goes on fight....But nowadays im more interested in k-1, even if it is not my favorite thing, just because there its all about the fighters
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on the street the guy who uses the most efficient and effective available weapon(s) first is the winner.
hope this helps. :D