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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: No Patience on October 22, 2007, 09:14:52 AM
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anyone try it? i bought Xtend a while back to drink during workouts....this shit makes my stomach so upset
that it effects my workouts
anyone else get this full/sick feeling from it?
and yes, i dilute it, that does not help
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my stomach gets upset by most protein shakes.
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I have been using my own "milos" drink during my workouts and I like it alot. I mix a quart of gatorade with 10 grams bcaa, 10 grams glutamine and 10 grams creatine and drink it throughout my workout.
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I have been using my own "milos" drink during my workouts and I like it alot. I mix a quart of gatorade with 10 grams bcaa, 10 grams glutamine and 10 grams creatine and drink it throughout my workout.
you must be huge!!!!!!!!!!!
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you must be huge!!!!!!!!!!!
-Massive mind-blowing brutal epic pumps
-legendary 1000 katrillion % strengh increases .005 seconds BEFORE even drinking it!
In all honesty, I do seem to notice a little better workout while drinking it. I figure it can't hurt!
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I have been using my own "milos" drink during my workouts and I like it alot. I mix a quart of gatorade with 10 grams bcaa, 10 grams glutamine and 10 grams creatine and drink it throughout my workout.
I am going to try that....thanks
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I actually do the "milos" drink to. But I do mine like this, instead of using just BCAA's, Glutamine and Creatine. I use EAA's (essential amino acids). Essential Amino Acids help highly with protein synthesis (building muscle), not the non-essential, those basically get wasted and not really contributors to muscle growth.
Purple Wraath is a great product and so is the other EAA product from Prima Force. The other good one is EAA Stack by Universal Nutrition. Milos gets his Amino Acids from Ajinomoto at www.ajiaminoscience.com/
I talked to Kim Chevlin there and she says he's ordered from them for his products. They also put the amino acids in Amino Vital.
So anyways, I mix it all together and suck it down when I train. Pre-training, I drink N.O. Xplode. Post training, I simply have fast carbs (Waxy Maize Starch) and protein powder, whey isolate.
anyways, i started doing all this during my prep for my last show, it was AMAZING and it worked awesome. this is how i showed up looking and i won the overall........
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anyone try it? i bought Xtend a while back to drink during workouts....this shit makes my stomach so upset
that it effects my workouts
anyone else get this full/sick feeling from it?
and yes, i dilute it, that does not help
i would never waste my money on crap like that
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good vascularity, lot of guys have a problem dialing in the upper half same time as the lower. Looks like your conditioning is dead on.
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my stomach gets upset by most protein shakes.
me too, i switched to egg protein powder and feels much better
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I actually do the "milos" drink to. But I do mine like this, instead of using just BCAA's, Glutamine and Creatine. I use EAA's (essential amino acids). Essential Amino Acids help highly with protein synthesis (building muscle), not the non-essential, those basically get wasted and not really contributors to muscle growth.
Purple Wraath is a great product and so is the other EAA product from Prima Force. The other good one is EAA Stack by Universal Nutrition. Milos gets his Amino Acids from Ajinomoto at www.ajiaminoscience.com/
I talked to Kim Chevlin there and she says he's ordered from them for his products. They also put the amino acids in Amino Vital.
So anyways, I mix it all together and suck it down when I train. Pre-training, I drink N.O. Xplode. Post training, I simply have fast carbs (Waxy Maize Starch) and protein powder, whey isolate.
anyways, i started doing all this during my prep for my last show, it was AMAZING and it worked awesome. this is how i showed up looking and i won the overall........
i get my muscles to enjoy all the EAA's right after my workout
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good vascularity, lot of guys have a problem dialing in the upper half same time as the lower. Looks like your conditioning is dead on.
thanks man. i was in pretty good shape. its crazy, but having the "milos drink" i actually gained muscle training for the show, that was my 6th contest, since 1999, and for every show i've ever done, i lost a little muscle, but drinking this crazy drink, i came in 6 pounds heavier than expected, i was suppose to be a middeweight and come in at 176lb, i came in at 182lb and i was ripped to pieces and couldn't lose anymore weight!! you be the judge.
Ricky
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thanks man. i was in pretty good shape. its crazy, but having the "milos drink" i actually gained muscle training for the show, that was my 6th contest, since 1999, and for every show i've ever done, i lost a little muscle, but drinking this crazy drink, i came in 6 pounds heavier than expected, i was suppose to be a middeweight and come in at 176lb, i came in at 182lb and i was ripped to pieces and couldn't lose anymore weight!! you be the judge.
Ricky
Looking Crazy ricky. Do you mix your waxy maize with your protein powder or do you have them separate? How does the maxy waize mix. I've had vitargo from nutrex and from art atwood's company and they both mix like shit.
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Looking Crazy ricky. Do you mix your waxy maize with your protein powder or do you have them separate? How does the maxy waize mix. I've had vitargo from nutrex and from art atwood's company and they both mix like shit.
thanks for the props on my conditioning
yes, i mix it with my protein, but i also add dextrose and some maltodextrin and it comes out smooth and with a good taste, mixes very clean that way. when i finish, i mix a little water in it and drink it down, you can't even tell i mixed a protein shake in it.
Ricky
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what show did u do?? And u look like u were in amazing shape in ur pic
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I have been using my own "milos" drink during my workouts and I like it alot.
According to Garraeth, if it's not genuine Snake OilTM, it's just a bunch of snake oil!
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what show did u do?? And u look like u were in amazing shape in ur pic
hey man, thank you so much. I competed in 2 shows actually, the NPC Gateway Classic, and the Florida vs Bahamas Invitaional (held in conjuction with the NPC Superior Championships) they were 2 weeks apart. I won the lightheavies and overall in both shows and it was the first time i competed in 5 years, basically since 2002. i've never, never ever, been in condition like that before. i did some crazy shit, lol, but it worked. here's another pic, getting my trophy at the gateway classic...and the video of my posing routine.
thanks again man,
Ricky
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I prefer capsules from Pro Source but I have tried Max Muscle XTR, flavor is good but a hassle drinking another drink when I drink 3 prot. shakes a day and drink Gasp. superpump 250 before workout, plus drinking alot of water all day.
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Hey Ricky, so what actually do you use in your "Milos" drink, do you do Gatoraide, EAAs, Glutamine, & Creatine??
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Hey Ricky, so what actually do you use in your "Milos" drink, do you do Gatoraide, EAAs, Glutamine, & Creatine??
Waxy Maize Starch, Dextrose and Maltodextrin are the carbs i use. i order from trueprotein.com They are the best! I do a custom mix, 45% Waxy Maize Starch, 30% Dextrose and 25% Maltodextrin
amino acids in the drink are basically one serving of Purple Wraath from Controlled Labs, 5 - 10gm of Glutamine, 5 - 10gm of Creatine, and 5 - 10gm of BCAA's depening on how crazy the training session is that day.
Ricky
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Waxy Maize Starch, Dextrose and Maltodextrin are the carbs i use. i order from trueprotein.com They are the best! I do a custom mix, 45% Waxy Maize Starch, 30% Dextrose and 25% Maltodextrin
amino acids in the drink are basically one serving of Purple Wraath from Controlled Labs, 5 - 10gm of Glutamine, 5 - 10gm of Creatine, and 5 - 10gm of BCAA's depening on how crazy the training session is that day.
Ricky
I might give this a shot ... are the Percentages dependent upon your Bodyweight at all ?
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I actually do the "milos" drink to. But I do mine like this, instead of using just BCAA's, Glutamine and Creatine. I use EAA's (essential amino acids). Essential Amino Acids help highly with protein synthesis (building muscle), not the non-essential, those basically get wasted and not really contributors to muscle growth.
Purple Wraath is a great product and so is the other EAA product from Prima Force. The other good one is EAA Stack by Universal Nutrition. Milos gets his Amino Acids from Ajinomoto at www.ajiaminoscience.com/
I talked to Kim Chevlin there and she says he's ordered from them for his products. They also put the amino acids in Amino Vital.
So anyways, I mix it all together and suck it down when I train. Pre-training, I drink N.O. Xplode. Post training, I simply have fast carbs (Waxy Maize Starch) and protein powder, whey isolate.
anyways, i started doing all this during my prep for my last show, it was AMAZING and it worked awesome. this is how i showed up looking and i won the overall........
Don't take creatine before and during workout will cause cramping.
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Don't take creatine before and during workout will cause cramping.
I think his Physique speaks for itself ... he needs to keep doing whatever it is that he's doing !
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BCAA's are a waste of money. You can get more pure amino acids from just a 3 oz steak than a full bottle of aminos and save your money. ;)
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yeah because i can eat steak wherever i am. they are meant for during workout mostly so that they quickly absorb.
Absorb to do what?
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help muscle grow. Milos theory is that the muscles are in its most anabolic state DURING the workout, not after or before. you havent been following obviously.
Milos does not know what he is talking about. There are no studies to support his theory on this. Taking BCAA's do not build muscle or help to do so. Any trainer can get what they need throughout the day with good food. As a trainer your body draws on amino acids only if you are not taking in or eating enough carbohydrates. It takes aerobic exercise to start using BCAA's to begin with.
Try eating this daily and do not waste your $ on BCAA's
3 oz of chicken
3 oz of tuna
1 cup of nonfat yogurt
1 cup of cooked legumes.
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When I am cutting I drink Xtend with regular Creatine Mono with water during my training. I find I don't lose muscle tissue and I get stronger while cutting doing so. I never add carbs because I pretty adamant about not having any carbs while training while cutting.
Now when I am trying to gain I have to say I have done about 75 grams of gatorade with 20 universal aminos per workout and I made the best gains of my life doing so.
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I might give this a shot ... are the Percentages dependent upon your Bodyweight at all ?
not at all man, i just like Waxy Maize better than the other 2, so i use more of it. i usually have about 50gm of carbs during training, then another 75 - 100 gm post training.
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How does Waxy Maize mix in water? Is it disgusting like Vitargo?
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that vitargo stuff is expensive as hell.
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Don't take creatine before and during workout will cause cramping.
taking creatine before and during workout won't cause cramping?
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I think his Physique speaks for itself ... he needs to keep doing whatever it is that he's doing !
hey man, thank you.
Ricky
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that vitargo stuff is expensive as hell.
you're not exactly poor yourself, Mars.
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I actually do the "milos" drink to. But I do mine like this, instead of using just BCAA's, Glutamine and Creatine. I use EAA's (essential amino acids). Essential Amino Acids help highly with protein synthesis (building muscle), not the non-essential, those basically get wasted and not really contributors to muscle growth.
Purple Wraath is a great product and so is the other EAA product from Prima Force. The other good one is EAA Stack by Universal Nutrition. Milos gets his Amino Acids from Ajinomoto at www.ajiaminoscience.com/
I talked to Kim Chevlin there and she says he's ordered from them for his products. They also put the amino acids in Amino Vital.
So anyways, I mix it all together and suck it down when I train. Pre-training, I drink N.O. Xplode. Post training, I simply have fast carbs (Waxy Maize Starch) and protein powder, whey isolate.
anyways, i started doing all this during my prep for my last show, it was AMAZING and it worked awesome. this is how i showed up looking and i won the overall........
Is BCAAs a powder of a liquid?
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Is BCAAs a powder of a liquid?
powder by optimum nutrition
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I've been cutting for 8 weeks. I'm using 6 scoops of xtend, 2 scoops of Primal EAA from primaforce and vasocharge preworkout. I drink the amino's during workout. I've been amazed by the results. When cutting calories, BCAA's are the shit.
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I've been cutting for 8 weeks. I'm using 6 scoops of xtend, 2 scoops of Primal EAA from primaforce and vasocharge preworkout. I drink the amino's during workout. I've been amazed by the results. When cutting calories, BCAA's are the shit.
Uhm... you're not using your companies own brand of powders? That doesn't speak well for your products lol
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i like whey protien during my workouts with raw whole egg mixed in along with water and celtic sea salt
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I sold all those companies 18 months ago
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Milos does not know what he is talking about. There are no studies to support his theory on this. Taking BCAA's do not build muscle or help to do so. Any trainer can get what they need throughout the day with good food. As a trainer your body draws on amino acids only if you are not taking in or eating enough carbohydrates. It takes aerobic exercise to start using BCAA's to begin with.
Try eating this daily and do not waste your $ on BCAA's
3 oz of chicken
3 oz of tuna
1 cup of nonfat yogurt
1 cup of cooked legumes.
wtf..thats less then 100 grams of protein
seriously stfu you don't know what the hell you're talking about
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I sold all those companies 18 months ago
Then you can tell the truth =)
Are their powders any good?
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Waxy Maize Starch, Dextrose and Maltodextrin are the carbs i use. i order from trueprotein.com They are the best! I do a custom mix, 45% Waxy Maize Starch, 30% Dextrose and 25% Maltodextrin
amino acids in the drink are basically one serving of Purple Wraath from Controlled Labs, 5 - 10gm of Glutamine, 5 - 10gm of Creatine, and 5 - 10gm of BCAA's depening on how crazy the training session is that day.
Ricky
So you add in extra BCAAs? Grape Wrath has both EAAs and BCAAs.
Do you add creatine and glutamine in to your post workout mix?
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I've been cutting for 8 weeks. I'm using 6 scoops of xtend, 2 scoops of Primal EAA from primaforce and vasocharge preworkout. I drink the amino's during workout. I've been amazed by the results. When cutting calories, BCAA's are the shit.
Couldn't agree more. I've been putting on muscle while losing fat with the Xtend...and a lot of hard work!
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wtf..thats less then 100 grams of protein
seriously stfu you don't know what the hell you're talking about
You shut the fuck up. The stated above was in regards to the amount of amino's needed in one day from natural foods. Just as an example how little food it takes to get the amino's. I am not talking protein here. BCAA's , I hope, is not your source of protein. If it is then you are a total idiot. Hope this helps............
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If u r bulking, and u dont have a lot of money, is it worth to take bcaas/eaas&glutamin&creatine&carbs during workout?
I mean, I am a student, i dont have money for lot of supplements. I usually only buy protein powder for preworkout(+dextroz), multivit pack + cvit. And i spend my money to real foods.
(i am not in the usa, supps are very expensive here..)
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If u r bulking, and u dont have a lot of money, is it worth to take bcaas/eaas&glutamin&creatine&carbs during workout?
I mean, I am a student, i dont have money for lot of supplements. I usually only buy protein powder for preworkout(+dextroz), multivit pack + cvit. And i spend my money to real foods.
(i am not in the usa, supps are very expensive here..)
I wouldn't say so. BCAAs and EAAs are very expensive.
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1lb of BCAA is 20$ , thats not very expensive.
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one pound of chicken is less than $5 and yields more than $20 worth of BCAA's................. ;)
oh yeah, and tastes better too. ;D
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If u r bulking, and u dont have a lot of money, is it worth to take bcaas/eaas&glutamin&creatine&carbs during workout?
I mean, I am a student, i dont have money for lot of supplements. I usually only buy protein powder for preworkout(+dextroz), multivit pack + cvit. And i spend my money to real foods.
(i am not in the usa, supps are very expensive here..)
save your money for real food, in college i only bought whey. couldnt afford anything else. real food will give you more benefits. eggs are cheap, chicken, skim milk veggies, whole bread, natural peanut butter. just graduate.
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Thanks for the answers! :)
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It's obvious that BCAA's are something you only do after you have the basics in line. That goes with any supplement. When cutting, nothing is better than BCAA's at maintaining muscle mass. Xtend taste and mix the best of any bcaa.