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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Alex23 on October 23, 2007, 12:40:15 AM
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
I'd LOVE to stop by ... it'd be an HONOR, really !! :D
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On a serious note though ... I wish all those People the best of luck ... it's certainly NO JOKE !
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On a serious note though ... I wish all those People the best of luck ... it's certainly NO JOKE !
Well, Arnie's there, so they don't have to fear anything. ::)
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I'd LOVE to stop by ... it'd be an HONOR, really !! :D
Don't be shy bro if you're in the area 8)
Well, Arnie's there, so they don't have to fear anything. ::)
I just got back from Del Mar Fair ground. He was there making sure eldely had proper facilities and assistance. He's spending the night there and doing a pretty good job.
Wanna come help us out DK?
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
Stay safe, man. Any indication that your area will be evacuated soon?
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Don't be shy bro if you're in the area 8)
I just got back from Del Mar Fair ground. He was there making sure eldely had proper facilities and assistance. He's spending the night there and doing a pretty good job.
Wanna come help us out DK?
Sure, I'd love to.
But don't you think a 12 hour flight is a little exeggerated?
Do i get beer and cheese cake? ;D
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Do i get beer and cheese cake? ;D
In that order 8)
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Very sad for the Southern California communities. :-[
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Stay safe, man. Any indication that your area will be evacuated soon?
They were just one mile up the hills in San Elijo Hills.. brand new houses burned to the ground.
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In that order 8)
Mmmmm, i'm on my way to Frankfurt Airport! ;) ;D ;D
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Damn bush fires, seem pretty serious. Something us Aussies know all to well. :(
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Damn bush fires, seem pretty serious. Something us Aussies know all to well. :(
I would love to send 4 of the 7 months constant rain we have in germany over to you...
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I would love to send 4 of the 7 months constant rain we have in germany over to you...
I would LOVE to live in Germany with my GF for 4-7 Months. Seriously !!
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I would love to send 4 of the 7 months constant rain we have in germany over to you...
Thanks man, we could really use it. Its bad enough in the city, i'd hate to be in the country. A family friend of ours just had to sell his farm his family has run for over 120+ years just due to the drought. Their doing it pretty tough out there. :(
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I would LOVE to live in Germany with my GF for 4-7 Months. Seriously !!
one question...
WHY?? WHY?????
Are you serious?? Seems you don't know too much about germany. You can go to turkey instead, it's exactly like germany, but without the rain. No wait, in turkey, head scarfs are forbidden in office, in Germany it's allowed.
In fact, germany is more islamized than turkey. :-X :-X
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Just turned on the TV and HOLY SHIT ! I can't believe the destruction.
I wish you guys all the best in Cali.
Pray for rain.
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
Add a couple PBR's & I'm in.
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cool thing for you to do
this shit is getting worse really fast, arnold is probably shitting his pants
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I hope mother nature takes back the hillsides that were destroyed by greed.
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Thats a standup move by A23 if a getbigger actually takes him up on the offer..
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Maybe Alex share some of his training secrets too when you're staying with him.
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Thats a standup move by A23 if a getbigger actually takes him up on the offer..
what if its a big fat ugly scmoe that brings all his porn?
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I hope mother nature takes back the hillsides that were destroyed by greed.
::) "NYC" bullshit artist.
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Thats a standup move by A23 if a getbigger actually takes him up on the offer..
Seconded.
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that's sinking pretty low, using that as an excuse to have men "visit him" :-\ and "sleep over" in his house
gay as the day is long
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::) "NYC" bullshit artist.
whats the matter, are you a kiss-ass middle class stooge worshiping the nouvo riche of Southern California....
Half of them built their homes illegally with pay-offs. If you dont believe it then you're are a fool.
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that's sinking pretty low, using that as an excuse to have men "visit him" :-\ and "sleep over" in his house
gay as the day is long
Your bitter negativity seems even more out of place than usual in contrast to a genuinely good-hearted person such as A23
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
I'd rather have you (and your hair) ;D
On a serious note though ... I wish all those People the best of luck ... it's certainly NO JOKE !
So true! My heart goes out to those people; 300,000 evacuated! It’s like Katrina! :'(
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I'd rather have you (and your hair) ;D
dude..alex..thank god you don't live in San Fran..hahaha
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Your bitter negativity seems even more out of place than usual in contrast to a genuinely good-hearted person such as A23
Groink man, so much negativity coming from jealousy.... so unAmerican.
Let me know next time you're west coast bro, we'll scavenge my local spots ;D
Or maybe at the Arnold in March 8) ?
I havent been evacuated but ill come over for steak cheesecake and beer :D
ill tell you what lets go lift ..ill drive, then well go back for dinner and a movie at your place? is it a date Alex?? :D
I'll drive... 8)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/alexgauthier23/DSC02521.jpg)
I volunteered for patrolling the evacuated areas with local force yesterday. We caught 3 mexicans looters trying to do a couple of houses in Discovery Hills. We almost threw them in the fire.
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I'd rather have you (and your hair) ;D
So true! My heart goes out to those people; 300,000 evacuated! It’s like Katrina! :'(
Yes but unlike Katrina, they had the good sense to leave. They didn't just sit there, burn to death and the blame the govt.
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Groink man, so much negativity coming from jealousy.... so unAmerican.
Let me know next time you're west coast bro, we'll scavenge my local spots ;D
Or maybe at the Arnold in March 8) ?
I'll drive... 8)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/alexgauthier23/DSC02521.jpg)
I volunteered for patrolling the evacuated areas with local force yesterday. We caught 3 mexicans looters trying to do a couple of houses in Discovery Hills. We almost threw them in the fire.
I'm 99% sure I'll be in Columbus this year.
We will tear shit up.
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I'd rather have you (and your hair) ;D
So true! My heart goes out to those people; 300,000 evacuated! It’s like Katrina! :'(
ok you get alex, I get groink...deal.... ;D ;D ;D
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ok you get alex, I get groink...deal.... ;D ;D ;D
Deal! ;D
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Groink man, so much negativity coming from jealousy.... so unAmerican.
Let me know next time you're west coast bro, we'll scavenge my local spots ;D
Or maybe at the Arnold in March 8) ?
I'll drive... 8)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/alexgauthier23/DSC02521.jpg)
I volunteered for patrolling the evacuated areas with local force yesterday. We caught 3 mexicans looters trying to do a couple of houses in Discovery Hills. We almost threw them in the fire.
Should have, no one cares about dirtbag messicans
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ull drive :D i have to do legs today.. where do u workout?
I train at LA fitness on Twin Oaks in San Marcos. I think they sissied out and are "closed" before or air quality.
Doin' legs too. I might just squat a little in the sunroom and lunges on the golf course afterwards.
Around 4PM. Feel free to drop by, I'm Lake San marcos off of Discovery.
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I'm 99% sure I'll be in Columbus this year.
We will tear shit up.
Dude, if you're going, I'm there.
Bring the wife, we'll tag team the girls togheter and point them to the mall while we tear appart the expo 8)
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ahaha i worked for LA Fitness in Escondido and I know the guys who run San Marcos... thats kinda far for me tho i live south in mission valley area.
Yea that would be a bad drive these days 8)
Which guy's the manager bro? Is it the "Tony Danza" looking guy? All I get these days is dirty looks from the trainer dudes and cute little smiles and phone numbers from the girls at the front desk.
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Alex,
I'm not getting evacuated, but can I come and stay with you for a few days anyway? Just bored and lonely. I'll start a fire if you're only taking fire escapees.
Ed
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
Damn...good thing my hubby didn't read that offer as he made the 3 plus hour drive from down there to home (normally takes 2 hours but the 5 was awful)...his base is pretty much evacuated.
Lisa
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The GM is Gabe. Great guy/straight shooter.
Alex hope your safe, I think they have that discovery fire contained but I heard that it was ablaze again on the North County times (comments down the bottom)...hope thats not true.... Hopefully that Witch Fire which is 0% contained and they cant do anything with doesnt decide to shift north as I know thats not far from you. Regardless stay safe.
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The GM is Gabe. Great guy/straight shooter.
Alex hope your safe, I think they have that discovery fire contained but I heard that it was ablaze again on the North County times (comments down the bottom)...hope thats not true.... Hopefully that Witch Fire which is 0% contained and they cant do anything with doesnt decide to shift north as I know thats not far from you. Regardless stay safe.
Did you get rid of all the Olive Oil in your house so it wouldn`t create more of a mess of things?
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The GM is Gabe. Great guy/straight shooter.
Alex hope your safe, I think they have that discovery fire contained but I heard that it was ablaze again on the North County times (comments down the bottom)...hope thats not true.... Hopefully that Witch Fire which is 0% contained and they cant do anything with doesnt decide to shift north as I know thats not far from you. Regardless stay safe.
All is good bro. Running out of my home made "virtargo" soon though ;)
Have you closed the warehouse until the fire scare comes down?
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Your bitter negativity seems even more out of place than usual in contrast to a genuinely good-hearted person such as A23
good hearted? he's pathetic with his constant attempts at trying to hook up with people from the internet.
i guess he got no friends in real life so he need to go on a msg board on the internet to try to get some.
and now you gave him a reason to boast and post another picture... and of course he mentioned that he got plenty of space in his house
oh brother, what a pathetic attention whore that sucker is
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home made vitargo? i think he eat enough carbs as it is...
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All is good bro. Running out of my home made "virtargo" soon though ;)
Have you closed the warehouse until the fire scare comes down?
Nope we are open. Business as usual.
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Millions of DC`ers are now going catabolic as a result of True Protein`s closure.
Brutal negativity while real Americans are coming together in solidarity helping each others.
I just had a couple of families over for showers, their RVs are parked at Loew's across the street from the house.
Keep America rolling.
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one question...
WHY?? WHY?????
Are you serious?? Seems you don't know too much about germany. You can go to turkey instead, it's exactly like germany, but without the rain. No wait, in turkey, head scarfs are forbidden in office, in Germany it's allowed.
In fact, germany is more islamized than turkey. :-X :-X
Food, Beer, and Culture, my Friend !! What else ? ;)
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ok you get alex, I get groink...deal.... ;D ;D ;D
When you said you were GetBig's " Gay Police " I thought you meant that you " Policed " the AMOUNT of Gayness here at GetBig ... I didn't know that you were actually Gay yourself ... I guess you learn something new everyday, huh ? :D
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
Good man.
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On a serious note, my uncle has a place in Fallbrook, California, 10 acres of land with over 300 avocado trees, and the house is over 4,000 sq ft.
This morning, the fire went right through the area, Just spoke to my father, who said that my uncle said that every avacoda tree and the entire area is burnt, but the firefighters saved the house, as the concentrated on that. Not sure of the damage of the house as they won't let him back there, but they said some smoke and water damage perhaps.
Primary concern now in the area are people trying to get back in and perhaps looting the empty areas that were evacuated.
He considers himself very, very lucky.
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This all is a result of human stupidity I hope you know. Stupidity in regards to the enviroment. The raging fires would not be so if it weren`t for humans.
I say let it all burn.
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I only feel sorry for the displaced animals and ruined plants.
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ur a moron adonis.
that's like saying,"the sky is blue."
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TA its not cool what you just said man,
this is real life shit.
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I only feel sorry for the displaced animals and ruined plants.
me too i wish we had noah's ark back
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TA its not cool what you just said man,
this is real life shit.
It will only get worse as global warming will worsen. People are too stupid to realize that they are the contributing factor of not only the start of these fires, but the worsening thereof.
They also build in areas where it makes no sense to build. Perhaps this is the wakeup call that they need.
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It will only get worse as global warming will worsen. People are too stupid to realize that they are the contributing factor of not only the start of these fires, but the worsening thereof.
They also build in areas where it makes no sense to build. Perhaps this is the wakeup call that they need.
are you saying it's ironic that alex 23 posts a picture of his hummer in this thread and talking about "keep America rolling" ?
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
You fat obese Americana make me sick... :-*
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They also build in areas where it makes no sense to build. Perhaps this is the wakeup call that they need.
This I agree with.
We have that here on LI as well. The wealthy build MANSIONS on top of sand dunes 100 feet from the ATLANTIC OCEAN in the Hamptons and then cry for natural disaster aid when the dunes wash away. fucking idiots are costing us ALL money so they can have a pretty view
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It will only get worse as global warming will worsen. People are too stupid to realize that they are the contributing factor of not only the start of these fires, but the worsening thereof.
They also build in areas where it makes no sense to build. Perhaps this is the wakeup call that they need.
I bet your parents are thinking
Mrs. Abeles: "I should have just suck your cock that day, I didn't know our first son will turn out this way."
Mr. Abeles: "Fcuk!!! We can always leave him on somebodies front porch"
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The cool thing about people that lost their homes, is that the insurance companies get to build them brand new homes!!!
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The cool thing about people that lost their homes, is that the insurance companies get to build them brand new homes!!!
i doubt most of these people had fire insurance...i doubt a lot of insurance companies in those areas even give fire insurance
if they do it must be crazy expensive considering they get these fires every year
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A23, I sent you a pm. thx for your response.
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As long as you can post on the Internet that's all that matters.
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I volunteered for patrolling the evacuated areas with local force yesterday. We caught 3 mexicans looters trying to do a couple of houses in Discovery Hills. We almost threw them in the fire.
Golf, Coors light, Surloin steaks AND midget tossing.
It's getting more tempting by the minute.
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This all is a result of human stupidity I hope you know. Stupidity in regards to the enviroment. The raging fires would not be so if it weren`t for humans.
I say let it all burn.
Do you own a house?
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alex u better dump that coors light and put some real beer in there.
Can anyone say newcastle ;D
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We were evacuated Monday (Del Mar area) and luckily for us our home is safe. The manditory evacuation for our area was lifted this morning. We were only out of our homes for two days and it was terrible - just imagine those that have lost their homes.
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beer, steak, cheesecake, even a woman thrown in... philanthropist of the year right here ;D
its good to see unsolicited kindness these days.
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We were evacuated Monday (Del Mar area) and luckily for us our home is safe. The manditory evacuation for our area was lifted this morning. We were only out of our homes for two days and it was terrible - just imagine those that have lost their homes.
Glad to hear that man. Where did you guys ended up sheltering?
I have a friend in Rancho Santa Fe who wasn't so fortunate. Barn is gone, Half the house is gone.
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Don't hesitate to send me a message if you need a place for a couple of days.
We're pretty safe here, surrounded by the lake on one side and the golf course on the other so no evacuation so far...
I've got plenty of room, a garage fridge loaded with Coors light, sirloin steaks and cheese cake. My sister's also in town and you would do me a favor by fucking her out of my way.
MF 23.
I live in Georgia but with that nice an offer I might come by anyway. ;D
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This all is a result of human stupidity I hope you know. Stupidity in regards to the enviroment. The raging fires would not be so if it weren`t for humans. I say let it all burn.
Yes, try putting yourself in front of 60 mph winds and then blaming the environment or Global warming for everything. Those winds were brutal, howling during the night. With a fire, even a small fire, and those winds, embers and burning tree branches can fly quite far into the night, fanning and igniting flames.
Your ignorance is amazing sometimes.
The only ignorance here in California is that there was not enough resources to help out with these fires, and the federal government and military resources came way, way too late. This resources should of been authorized quite quickly once the fire was out of control, not 2 days later.
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Yes, try putting yourself in front of 60 mph winds and then blaming the environment or Global warming for everything. Those winds were brutal, howling during the night. With a fire, even a small fire, and those winds, embers and burning tree branches can fly quite far into the night, fanning and igniting flames.
Your ignorance is amazing sometimes.
The only ignorance here in California is that there was not enough resources to help out with these fires, and the federal government and military resources came way, way too late. This resources should of been authorized quite quickly once the fire was out of control, not 2 days later.
Ron,
I think you need to realize that as of yet the FEMA can't "Beam" the resources where they are needed Star Trek style...yet
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It will only get worse as global warming will worsen. People are too stupid to realize that they are the contributing factor of not only the start of these fires, but the worsening thereof.
They also build in areas where it makes no sense to build. Perhaps this is the wakeup call that they need.
LOL I seriously hope you die adonis. You really are a piece of shit that needs to be killed.
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Glad to hear that man. Where did you guys ended up sheltering?
I have a friend in Rancho Santa Fe who wasn't so fortunate. Barn is gone, Half the house is gone.
Sorry to hear about your friend in RSF. I'm nearby if any help at all is needed. we've got some great friends who took us in near downtown SD. We thought about qualcomm stadium since all the reports made it seem like some sort of Mardi Gras celebration! It's great to see the continued number of volunteers, the generosity and the positive outllook of the San Diego population.
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I think you need to realize that as of yet the FEMA can't "Beam" the resources where they are needed Star Trek style...yet
Yeah, I guess those tanker water drop planes that are in Colorado and other states take 48 hours to get to California. A quick comminucations saying 'Fires are out of Control - can we send them now' would of helped. Quite a number of houses would of been saved.
What we see here is different than what people see around the world. In Los Angeles, the local news channels concentrate on the Santa Clarita fires, the Malibu fires, the Aqua Dulce fire, the Piru fire, the Stevenson Ranch fires.
In San Diego, the local news concentrates on the Witch fire, the Harris fire, the Fallbrook fire, etc.
In Orange County, same thing.
Local resources were diverted, and not enough was around.
Some smaller fires that burned houses didnt get the water drops that were used in other fires. Hence, more resources were needed when the time was right.
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Yeah, I guess those tanker water drop planes that are in Colorado and other states take 48 hours to get to California.
Gee, I can get on a plane in Denver and be in LA in two hours. 48 hours?? Those must be damn slow planes. ::)
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Gee, I can get on a plane in Denver and be in LA in two hours. 48 hours?? Those must be damn slow planes. ::)
maybe they have a long runway?
jokes aside, for governmental institutions, they were pretty fast. Remember, it's not "We have a fire here, please help!", it's more like
"We have a fire here, who's in charge?"
"Wait, i'll phone central. Central? We've got a fire here, who's in charge?"
"I'll contact the person in charge. ... There's a fire, you have to do something!"
"Well, first i have to assure it's in this years financial possibilities to kill the fire. I have to call the person in charge..."
Make this through 4 states and up to the federal level and 2 days is no time. :-\ :-\
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maybe they have a long runway?
jokes aside, for governmental institutions, they were pretty fast. Remember, it's not "We have a fire here, please help!", it's more like
"We have a fire here, who's in charge?"
"Wait, i'll phone central. Central? We've got a fire here, who's in charge?"
"I'll contact the person in charge. ... There's a fire, you have to do something!"
"Well, first i have to assure it's in this years financial possibilities to kill the fire. I have to call the person in charge..."
Make this through 4 states and up to the federal level and 2 days is no time. :-\ :-\
we can't swing from tree to tree like you "donkey kong"
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we can't swing from tree to tree like you "donkey kong"
especially when there's no trees left due to the fire.
D'oh!
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especially when there's no trees left due to the fire.
D'oh!
you don't know the first thing about forest fires, do you?
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I read Arnold is on the scene giving orders.
PUT IT OUTTT. NOW
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I only feel sorry for the displaced animals and ruined plants.
This says more about you than anything you've ever posted. As a consumer you're part of the problem. So do the right thing.
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Yeah, I guess those tanker water drop planes that are in Colorado and other states take 48 hours to get to California. A quick comminucations saying 'Fires are out of Control - can we send them now' would of helped. Quite a number of houses would of been saved.
What we see here is different than what people see around the world. In Los Angeles, the local news channels concentrate on the Santa Clarita fires, the Malibu fires, the Aqua Dulce fire, the Piru fire, the Stevenson Ranch fires.
In San Diego, the local news concentrates on the Witch fire, the Harris fire, the Fallbrook fire, etc.
In Orange County, same thing.
Local resources were diverted, and not enough was around.
Some smaller fires that burned houses didnt get the water drops that were used in other fires. Hence, more resources were needed when the time was right.
you can be sure the nouvo riche got water drops....Southern California is corrupt. Sorry Ron.
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you can be sure the nouvo riche got water drops....Southern California is corrupt. Sorry Ron.
if you're going to insist on using a term like "nouveau riche," learn how to spell it . . . dumbass.
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When you said you were GetBig's " Gay Police " I thought you meant that you " Policed " the AMOUNT of Gayness here at GetBig ... I didn't know that you were actually Gay yourself ... I guess you learn something new everyday, huh ? :D
why would someone straight want to police the amount of gayness at getbig?..well then again anything is possible on this site. ;D
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if you're going to insist on using a term like "nouveau riche," learn how to spell it . . . dumbass.
it can be spelt both ways grammar police...why not refute my claim that the rich in Southern California pay off politicians to build thier McMansions in areas they shouldnt. They destroy vegetation, which would normally retain moisture and stabilitly in the he soil, and they illegally back fill promoting dangerous mudslides for the poor people below them.
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it can be spelt both ways grammar police...why not refute my claim that the rich in Southern California pay off politicians to build thier McMansions in areas they shouldnt. They destroy vegetation, which would normally retain moisture and stabilitly in the he soil, and they illegally back fill promoting dangerous mudslides for the poor people below them.
uh, no it can't. if you can't spell a simple word like that, and think you can spell it either way, you're obviously an uneducated/undereducated troll who's not worth talking to . . .
the rest of the educated world knows that it wasn't the rich who got burned for the most part . . .
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They destroy vegetation, which would normally retain moisture and stabilitly in the he soil, and they illegally back fill promoting dangerous mudslides for the poor people below them.
Yes, the poor Malibu "lowlanders."
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uh, no it can't. if you can't spell a simple word like that, and think you can spell it either way, you're obviously an uneducated/undereducated troll who's not worth talking to . . .
the rest of the educated world knows that it wasn't the rich who got burned for the most part . . .
Ok "algea bra" , and you serioulsy believe that the rich will not get special treatment..I just saw on the news a wealthy family portrayed as evacuees, when during Katrina the poor were referred to as refugees.
your a petite bourgeoisie ass kisser waiting for the filthy rich to throw you a scrap.
It is you my friend that is not worth talking too because you do not have an independent point of view. You are sold out. Isnt it time to go shopping at Fashion Island.
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LOL I seriously hope you die adonis. You really are a piece of shit that needs to be killed.
Well what do you know, we finally agree on something. Now don't get any ideas.
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Yes, the poor Malibu "lowlanders."
true, in places like Malibu and Laguna they just pay off one town politician after another. There are no poor. They are all at each others throats, cutting down trees and backfilling to expand their houses. Its a big joke.
They are beautiful places, but the people make it ugly to live there. Just horrible.
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On a serious note, my uncle has a place in Fallbrook, California, 10 acres of land with over 300 avocado trees, and the house is over 4,000 sq ft.
This morning, the fire went right through the area, Just spoke to my father, who said that my uncle said that every avacoda tree and the entire area is burnt, but the firefighters saved the house, as the concentrated on that. Not sure of the damage of the house as they won't let him back there, but they said some smoke and water damage perhaps.
Primary concern now in the area are people trying to get back in and perhaps looting the empty areas that were evacuated.
He considers himself very, very lucky.
That sucks to hear...but glad he's ok.
So many people here have nothing to go home too. As of right now...I'm still lucky. There's nothing else to call it.
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Yes, try putting yourself in front of 60 mph winds and then blaming the environment or Global warming for everything. Those winds were brutal, howling during the night. With a fire, even a small fire, and those winds, embers and burning tree branches can fly quite far into the night, fanning and igniting flames.
Your ignorance is amazing sometimes.
The only ignorance here in California is that there was not enough resources to help out with these fires, and the federal government and military resources came way, way too late. This resources should of been authorized quite quickly once the fire was out of control, not 2 days later.
Well....what alot of people don't realize is how much open, rocky, & brushed filled land is out here. The Santa Anna winds are a normal occurance here. Then you put into account that dickhead pyro's have started the majority of the fires. Some of the firs can be contributed to downed power lines.
Still....when you're talking thousands of acres....the only thing you can do is try and save what you can. The fire cannot be stopped with winds like we had.
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Well what do you know, we finally agree on something. Now don't get any ideas.
;D yes onlyme everyone can agree on that.
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Yeah, I guess those tanker water drop planes that are in Colorado and other states take 48 hours to get to California. A quick comminucations saying 'Fires are out of Control - can we send them now' would of helped. Quite a number of houses would of been saved.
What we see here is different than what people see around the world. In Los Angeles, the local news channels concentrate on the Santa Clarita fires, the Malibu fires, the Aqua Dulce fire, the Piru fire, the Stevenson Ranch fires.
In San Diego, the local news concentrates on the Witch fire, the Harris fire, the Fallbrook fire, etc.
In Orange County, same thing.
Local resources were diverted, and not enough was around.
Some smaller fires that burned houses didnt get the water drops that were used in other fires. Hence, more resources were needed when the time was right.
Well Ron....what sucks is that in Riverside County....neither the LA news or the San Dego news covers this area.
The Poomacha & Rice Fire (which is in North County San Diego) is barely covered by the San Diego News. It borders Riverside County which means the people that live there...have very little knowledge of whats going on. Besides Rancho Bernardo....Fallbrook has taken the majority of houses lost in this fire. Too bad the news doesn't cover it too well. :-\ Secondly...the Poomacha Fire has connected to the Witch Fire which probably has the most acres covered & lost so far. Too bad thats not covered. :-\
I was just amazed how the news felt like covering the Magic fire in Ventura County because it was close to Magic Mountain eventhough the acres burnt wasn't nearly as bad & posed less of a threat. I guess because it was near an amusement park it gained more interest.
I was here in 2003 for the Cedar fire. I can say there is better organization for this fire....but this one is 10 times worse than the Cedar.
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....but this one is 10 times worse than the Cedar.
why?
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why?
Acres & houses burned
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Acres & houses burned
thought both were less than Cedar.
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thought both were less than Cedar.
The final tally when this is over....will be worse. Hell....I wish the Cedar Fire was worse.
Cedar fire: 280,278 acres - 2,820 buildings (including 2,232 homes) and had killed 15 people including one firefighter before being contained on
This is as of yesterday.....so granted the numbers keep comliating as we speak & people loss is not 100% accounted for yet as the loss of homes:
- TOTAL Acreage all counties: 431,377
- Homes Destroyed: At least 1,447, according to individual county reports.
- Deaths: One fire death, five fire-related deaths.
- Injuries: 30 to civilians, 39 to firefighters.
Witch Fire: About 196,420 acres
Poomacha Fire: 25,000 acres
Horno/Ammo Fire: 6,000 acres
Harris Fire: About 73,000 acres
Rice Fire: At least 7,500 acres
Buckweed Fire: About 38,356 acres
Canyon Fire: About 4,500 acres
Magic Fire: About 2,824 acres
Ranch Fire: About 51,337 acres
Santiago Fire: About 19,200 acres east of Irvine.
Slide Fire: More than 5,119 acres
Grass Valley Fire: More than 1,000 acres
Rosa Fire: 411 acres
Sedgewick Fire: 710 acres
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Another way the rich are different: 'concierge-level' fire protection
When Southland clients' multimillion-dollar homes were threatened, insurer AIG dispatched crews with fire retardant.
By Kimi Yoshino
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 26, 2007
RANCHO SANTA FE, CALIF. — Bryce Carrier's cellphone rang at 3 a.m.: Help! The fire is almost to my house.
Carrier hopped into his heavy-duty red Ford F-550 and sped to northeast Poway, dodging fallen eucalyptus and heading straight toward the wind-whipped blaze. He arrived to find flames marching up an embankment toward the multimillion-dollar home.
Yanking out the hose in the back of his truck, he began applying Phos-Chek fire retardant along the perimeter of the property, the shrubs and the roof. When the flames hit the milky white liquid, they stopped.
Another home saved.
Carrier is a certified firefighter, but he doesn't work for a government agency. He's an employee of Firebreak Spray Systems, which partners with the insurance company American International Group Inc. to protect the mansions of the moneyed.
AIG's Wildfire Protection Unit, part of its Private Client Group, is offered only to homeowners in California's most affluent ZIP Codes -- including Malibu, Beverly Hills, Newport Beach and Menlo Park -- and a dozen Colorado resort communities. It covers about 2,000 policyholders, who pay premiums of at least $10,000 a year and own homes with a value of at least $1 million.
Carrier and his 15 crew mates sprayed retardant on and around more than 160 homes in Malibu, Lake Arrowhead and the hardest-hit areas of Orange and San Diego counties this week. They claim to have saved a dozen homes.
Jim Moore of Malibu, for one, was grateful for their services.
"Just picture it," said Moore, whose house was sprayed by Firebreak early Monday. "Here you are in that raging wildfire. Smoke everywhere. Flames everywhere. Plumes of smoke coming up over the hills. Here's a couple guys showing up in what looks like a firetruck who are experts trained in fighting wildfire and they're there specifically to protect your home. . . . It was really, really comforting."
For the insurance company, it's also savvy business. One saved home covers the cost of the program.
"We are saving homes that may average $3 million to $5 million," said Firebreak Chief Executive Jim Aamodt. "Those are the hard dollars, money the insurance company is not paying out."
AIG says the service is not a replacement for public fire departments; after all, the insurer did lose some houses. But like an air bag in a car crash, the company says, it's better than nothing.
Others say that it's just another way for the wealthy to buy their way around cash-strapped, understaffed public services. Firefighters across the region have complained this week that they simply did not have enough trucks, helicopters and airplanes.
"What we have is a dangerous confluence of events: underfunded states, increasingly inefficient disaster response, a loss of faith in the public sphere . . . and a growing part of the economy that sees disaster as a promising new market," said Naomi Klein, whose new book, "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism," looks at, among other things, the response to Hurricane Katrina.
Klein said AIG offers a glimpse into the future of what she calls "disaster apartheid," in which the affluent are better equipped for emergencies.
"You can't fault businesses for seeing an opportunity, and you can't fault individuals for wanting to protect their property. Pretty much anyone who could afford it would want it," she said. "But survival shouldn't be a luxury item."
AIG said it did apply fire retardant to homes of some standard policyholders if they happened to be nearby, because it made financial sense. Though AIG is the only insurance company to provide emergency fire response teams, there are other fire prevention businesses that cater to the elite.
As blazes raged in Malibu this week, camera crews captured a groundskeeper at movie producer Jeffrey Katzenberg's mansion coating the building with foam using a system installed several years ago.
Firebreak sells similar retardant systems apart from its work with AIG and says sales have tripled over last year. Installation costs about $10,000 for a device that can be activated remotely or deployed automatically when sensors detect fire approaching.
More-frugal homeowners can spend $1,000 to buy Phos-Chek, the same retardant used by the U.S. Forest Service but without the red coloring. The concentrate is mixed with water and applied with a hose.
AIG's private fire service approach isn't exactly new. In the 1800s, many firefighters worked for for-profit companies and would battle blazes only for those with insurance. Insurers in places including Richmond, Va., gave their clients plaques to alert crews that their homes had coverage.
AIG began its Private Client Group insurance in 2000, and it has since grown to almost $1 billion in gross premiums.
Besides specialty fire protection, in Florida AIG offers a similar service for hurricanes, dispatching pre-disaster consultants to assess shutter protection, property storage and landscaping. Home restoration teams head in after storms to help with immediate repairs, even before claims are reported, said Todd Triano, vice president of loss prevention for AIG Private Client Group.
On Thursday, AIG and Firebreak teams fanned out across San Diego County, returning to homes they had sprayed to assess saves and losses. On one block of Zumaque Street in Rancho Santa Fe, with homes all around burnt to the ground, Aamodt surveyed two surviving homes bounded by blackened mountainside and singed trees.
"This is a classic use of Phos-Chek," Aamodt said, pointing at shrubs that were half blackened and half green. "It chars at the edge of the Phos-Chek line and then it stops. . . . This is a great feeling. We're ecstatic."
One of the houses is owned by Kerry Roland, who returned home Thursday feeling lucky. Three houses to the south and one just north were gone.
Roland said she believed a number of factors contributed to the save, including firefighters who had put out a flare-up on her roof before AIG arrived; sprinklers she kept running; and the location of her house, on the crest of the ridge.
"When I packed up and left on Monday morning, I didn't think our home would survive," said Roland, 51. "It's amazing, isn't it? My property and the one opposite me, we both had fire retardant used."
Local firefighters have mixed opinions about the value of services such as Firebreak.
Capt. Dan Froelich of San Diego Fire and Rescue said he was concerned what could happen if private companies sent undertrained, ill-equipped crews into fire zones and the crews got trapped and needed rescuing.
But Maurice Luque, a spokesman for San Diego Fire and Rescue, said fire retardant could be effective.
"The stuff works really well," he said, noting that private companies are used more in eastern San Diego County.
In such places, he said, there are not many fire agencies and response times can be long. "The residents have to fend for themselves in these mountain or remote areas," he said.
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It's good to be rich!
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I think we need to set True Adonis on fire to see how its body react to the heat. >:( Stupid bitch