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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: warrant800 on October 28, 2007, 10:26:11 AM
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Last night I was breaking up a party with the squad when one of the girls there starting ranting about me being on the juice...."You steroid head, there is probably a needle hanging out of your ass!!" Now at 5'9 and 204 lbs. with about 10% bf and long sleeves I hardly look like a hardcore bodybuilder. When I asked my buddy why she would say such a thing he said, " it's cuz you have GH skull!" Damn....Here's my question....First off, I have never run GH for more than 4 months at a time @ 2iu's a day for 5 days and did that only twice in my life......Second, I have never gone over 1000 mg. of combined sauce a week .....You see the bodybuilders in the mags....Monster muscle but a normal size head ( except for Dave Palumbo) hahaha....How do you keep the sides of your head from expanding...????? My first couple of cycles I did no arimidex or nolva and saw an expansion in the ol cranium....Now I run an ae the whole cycle....no bloat....anyway, I'm sure you guys are going to have fun with this one.....
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Omna Skull, Neanderthal brow ridges..
Tell her to quit living on meth and beer and pot and get her lazy ass to the Gym!
Actually the more androgenic stuff cause more IGF1 conversion is my understanding.
The 1970s BBers didnt seem to get any of the brow ridge/ jaw / look some of todays WOMEN are
displaying. Maybee its somthing in the happy meals?
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I agree, tell that bitch straight up.. "yeah, I juice, SO FUCKING WHAT?!, go back to your meth addicition you fucking skank"
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yea...it's wierd, plenty of pros gh, why no huge dome?
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I guess seriously if you want to not "Look" like a steroid user, then your body type is gona have a lot to do with it.
Keeping the water retention to a minimum help size wise, but if you arms are sticking out and all
veiny and jacked they accuse also....
Sounds to me from some other guys like there's lots of petty infighting in LE and some backstabber's w/ political type ambitions that'd love to do damage to anyone that might take a promotion that they could have.
Guess that's everywhere, but a construction worker can laugh at steroid accusations at work.
THese days after all the hype anyone that works out and has any shape & 1/2 assed lean gets accused.
I think the stuff does a body good personally, wish they'd get focused on something important.
No shortage of real issues to deal with.
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just the dim witted people who say these things,who usually have nothing going for them,
its easy to call people roid monkey, thats society for you
when i was little i probably said the same thing 8)
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I had a great HRT doctor in Texas who had many BB's and uniformed policemen as patients. One of the policemen went to a drugstore to get his prescription filled, and the pharmacist asked, "is this for bodybuilding purposes?" The idiot said, "yeah!" This great doc is still trying to get his license back and his life together. Again I say, the reason why there are so many weighttrainers in poor health in the news is because there is no medical supervision readily available.
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OK....I have gotten a few private messages, some expressing concern that i am in law enforcement....YES I AM! Am I a Fed....hell no....do I take prescription AAS as HRT?? Hell yes??? At 48 years old why wouldn't I??? Here goes....When 9/ll happend I was constructing a brick patio and was self employed as a landscape contractor for 15 years with a brief break as a gym manager about 10 years ago...anyway...I had a defining moment, I was too old for the marines, so I pulled some strings, made some calls, and was hired in county law enforcement within 30 days of 9/11. I took a 60 thousand dollar pay cut while I went through the police academy, finished as Platoon Leader, class pres...and won a merit award from the state I live in....I did my first cycle at age 42 and am 48 now....At a bodyweight of 185 IO benched 350 at age 35 naturally.....I was a wrestler in high school and a state kickboxing champ in college ( in 1983)....I know that's alittle bit random but all true....I think roids are the fountain of youth and have enabled me to be in stellar shape while currently working on a street gang unit that suppresses ( nice way of putting it) gang activity which includes drugs, and all the other shit those idiots do.....I'm not here to rat, get UG info or any such thing.....I like the boards that discuss this stuff because as you can imagine, I can't talk about this subject alot, even though what I do is legal for now....I see what street drugs do to people and families, not to mention the fact that sales of this stuff directly funds terrorism....oh yeah that's right...where do you think Heroin comes from????? The city I work in has been labeled little Mexico because it has been overun by the Mex's in the last 15 years...so much for secure borders....Oh, and don't worry, I will pay the hospital bill for the births of your children that are automatically American citizens.....I don't have any info on when or where the Feds will stop on their steroid witch hunt....As far as I know, there were over 128,000 clients on Signature Pharmacies list but the feds lack the funds to go after all of the HRT users....Mostly all they can do, unless they change the laws, is go after UG labs and the like....I'm sure some feeble pencil neck senator is trying to figure out how to write a bill that will outlaw HRT for us law abiding/law enforcement guys....Of course he is probably doing GH ...Anyway that's my story.....If anybody needs any more info I have nothing to hide....just ask....But a word of caution....Knowing that the witch hunt is going on....people need to be smart about everything they do....get rid of paper trails/ email stuff, etc...Feds have access to everything....and unlike me, they don't need a warrant.......
I appreciate your honesty, but to tell you the truth, I'm not all that worried about it...all we do here anyway is play make believe. No one here is breaking the law, and if they were, like you said, they shouldn't be worried about you since you are not a fed.
Plus, I know a handfull of cops already that use these items, we've talked about it, and I say more power to them.
Guys, I know some of you are going to say, "how do you know he's not a fed, he could be lying, ban him" etc. Guess what, who the fuck cares. Nothings happening here that anyone should be worried about, I think we do a pretty good job of keeping that kind of bullshit off of this board...sure it does slip in every now and then, but we usually catch it pretty quick.. Point being, be smart, know that there are actual feds that monitor these boards, but they monitor every type of board out there anyway, this is no secret. If some local cop from "Wherever U.S.A" wants to post here and comment and ask questions, I say let him.
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I appreciate your honesty, but to tell you the truth, I'm not all that worried about it...all we do here anyway is play make believe. No one here is breaking the law, and if they were, like you said, they shouldn't be worried about you since you are not a fed.
Plus, I know a handfull of cops already that use these items, we've talked about it, and I say more power to them.
Guys, I know some of you are going to say, "how do you know he's not a fed, he could be lying, ban him" etc. Guess what, who the fuck cares. Nothings happening here that anyone should be worried about, I think we do a pretty good job of keeping that kind of bullshit off of this board...sure it does slip in every now and then, but we usually catch it pretty quick.. Point being, be smart, know that there are actual feds that monitor these boards, but they monitor every type of board out there anyway, this is no secret. If some local cop from "Wherever U.S.A" wants to post here and comment and ask questions, I say let him.
Nice post. This board should be more for informational purposes. I don't advocate the use of AAS to anyone. If someone chooses to use I'd like to see them do it safely - I will also offer my opinions to help them succeed. However, like I said I will not encourage anyone to use or try & teach random folks how to buy AAS. As Arnold I also know a bunch of cops who juice however I refuse to discuss my useage with them (just a precaution). My attitude about steroids is like any other drug. If an adult wants to take a drug (be it coke, speed, AAS, etc) that's fine as long as their doing it within the confines of their home & not out driving & hurting other people. Note even with this opinion I feel that once you have children you shouldn't be doing things to drastically hurt your life. Now kids are a different story (no one under 18-21 should use AAS or any other drug). This whole war on drugs is a waste - human beings have been doing things to alter their consciousness for thousands of years & will continue to do so with or without drug laws. There's my rant. I hope it makes sense I'm trying to do about four things at once. Cheers mates.
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Personally, I think cops that use are hypocrites. How do you distinguish aas/gh from any other drug? They are both illegal. The cops are sworn to uphold the law, whether they think the laws are right or wrong. If these cops pull over some guy for speeding and find 20,000 ius of growth do you think they would say "its okay sir, I use also, you are free to go" No. They would arrest them and call it a day's work.
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Let's not turn this into a thread bashing cops. They're like any other occupation. Some are good & some are bad. In that regard they're the same as teachers, fireman, saleman, etc...
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Let's not turn this into a thread bashing cops. They're like any other occupation. Some are good & some are bad. In that regard they're the same as teachers, fireman, saleman, etc...
I'm not bashing cops. Just saying that the cops who use are hypocrites.
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I'm not bashing cops. Just saying that the cops who use are hypocrites.
I know what you said but I just didn't want the thread to go South.
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I know what you said but I just didn't want the thread to go South.
thanks for your concern
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As far as I can determine there is nothing illegal about HRT when prescribed by a doctor after a face to face consultation, examination and blood work that determines that your body is deficient or has low levels that can be remedied by HRT......Especially to someone who is 48 years old.....No hypocrite here.....The product is made legally in a US pharmacy.....There IS a difference....And quite honestly I am not saying I condone black market juice....In my chosen profession, I lose my job and pention if I use illegal drugs...So I don't.....It's that simple.....What other people do is on them...My reason for being here is to discuss, get info, and offer help if I can....I never had to mention I was in law enforcement and didn't really think that would be a problem....anyway....pea ce.............
There is nothing wrong with hrt...but what you described-a cycle of less than 1,000mgs/wk-is not hrt. Technically hrt is less than 200mgs/wk. So, I guess you said too much in your post, huh? Care to retract to save your job?
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thanks for your concern
That's my job. ;)
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Cops used to have a lot more latitude in personal decisions.
We've lost a lot of that due to various reasons today, but the whole criminal justice sys often comes down to their decision to arrest or not. They and their departments HAVE to choose where to put manpower and what is worth their personal time.
Hopefull it dont come down from on high to turn to busting all the AAS users they can...
Im affraid it might (Well not afraid, mine has a script)
As far as dose of HRT, thats up to the prescribing Drs discretion. Yes its gettin hard to find progressive ones after Signature and Powermedica etc but there are other ways around. Multiple compounds etc.
I got NO legal concerns here, and I guess Im one OF THE FEW WHO REALLY USES STEROIDS HERE ANYMORE.. ;D But if I was concerned Id be more worried about some other posters.
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Not to offend anyone here cause I think there may be some PD on this board and that is cool, but there is a fine line between the police and the criminals. Thats the way it has got to be.
Cops have a tough job hard to be disliked and not really trusted by most, I know how it feels even though Im not in LE I am an enforcer of the law, where I work at least.
Oh yeah forgot to add LMAO at the title of this thread!!!
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Not to offend anyone here cause I think there may be some PD on this board and that is cool, but there is a fine line between the police and the criminals. Thats the way it has got to be.
Cops have a tough job hard to be disliked and not really trusted by most, I know how it feels even though Im not in LE I am an enforcer of the law, where I work at least.
OSHA! :o WAY WORSE THAN DEA! ;D
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OSHA! :o WAY WORSE THAN DEA! ;D
LOL ;D
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You are right Trab....Departments usually target certain specialized areas to arrest depending upon what the bosses wa,nt to do and that is usually prompted by politicians/mayors, etc....I work at a city pd. Right now the target is gangs......and everything that goes with it.....As far as busting for juice...I have never even seen it out there...crack, heroin, ex, meth and weed yes....It is not a local mandate at any department I know of to target gyms or gym rats, and although local pd's might be recruited to take part in the takedown at the behest of the Fed's, that is one detail no one wants.....Truthfully, street cops detest the Feds as they are usually the biggest cartoon shows on the planet, running around with their guns in the air like some hokey police show, while the rest of us street cops shake our heads and hide in embarrrassment...Someone posted that there is a fine line between cop and criminal and I wholeheartedly agree....Ultimately it is a job and nothing more....When I leave work, I don't look around for people that are parking in handicapped spots to harrass and flash my badge to...I go HOME to be with my wife and four children, take care of my house and swim in my pool....And honestly, my goal everyday is to make it HOME after my shift.....and that is it.....We have already had one cop shot this year and several others hurt in brawls trying to "protect and serve" people that don't want you around, but call you when the shit hits the fan in their hood to come and help calm their shit storm.....And to that guy ( i'm trying to be kind right now) that is calling me a hypocrite, my guess is that if someone is breaking into your house in the middle of the night, or assaulting, robbing, or carjacking your family member, YOU are going to call the cops......I can guarantee you this, if you called me, I would be on the way, lights and sirens no matter how much of an asshole you might be.....
First, the kind of dosages that this supposed cop is talking about is NEVER considered hrt. Just ask the cops in NY!! Hahahahaha
Second, to the "cop" you didn't really address my criticism or my question. If you pulled over a guy for speeding and saw "in plain view" 20,000 iu's of hgh would you pop him or just give him a speeding ticket and let him go? My guess is that you arrest him and charge him with intent to distribute.
Third, if someone broke into my house, my first reaction is to reach for the USP that is in my nightstand. And then call an ambulance (for the burglar) and the police last. And so what do you want for responding to a call? A pat on the back? A cookie? It is afterall just your job as you so eloquently put it. You are paid to respond to the call. So, go ahead and call me names. The fact remains that you are a hypocrite of the first order and should be ashamed to wear your badge.
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Prior to the Signature shut down many HRT Docs were writing up to:
600mg TE + 400Deca + HGH & some orals ew.
AND PEOPLE ABUSED THE SYSTEM BEYOND THAT AND RUINED IT FOR ALL! ::)
iF YOU CANT GAIN ON THE ABOVE STACK OF REAL JUICE, YOU SELLING IT,not use'n it.
Also 20k iu is 10k 2iu doses.
At 10iu a day thats 2000 days supply personal use, correct me if wrong.
ANd yeah, if any streetTrash busts in on me they get ventilated w/ FMJ's before the cops get there, but there's still stuff I need to call the cops for now and then. Unfortunatly we need them, but the law and order bit is overdone these days IMO stateside.
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Hahahahahah...well yet another internet tough guy......you wouldn't say those things to Vic Mackey.....now would you....???? It's like when you roll up on a call where some poor banger has been shot in a drive by with an assault rifle and his entire hip is blown off along with the femoral artery severed and people are screaming at you to help him, then, when it is time to get a description of the car or any information, they all of a sudden don't know nothin'......Then, they start threatening you from their porches like it's your fault the ambulance hasn't arrived at warp speed....They become "porch" tough guys.....Internet tough guys are the same way....they say things to you that they probably wouldn't say if they were up close and personal.....Ofcourse they will claim they will, but in all reality, most big dudes have been getting by on their size their whole lives.....To just come off with a comment attacking someones character when you don't even know them reminds me of the shitbags at work....and ultimately, they don't even exist in my world. I wasn't even going to respond again to the ridiculous comments calling me a hypocrite and no matter what the response, this is the last I'm saying about it.....So much for the rule of "no flaming" on the boards...Hey , if I want' to be abused, I can just wait and go to work! ;D To all the brothers that have supported me in here thanks! But don't worry, I have tough skin and I have a tendency to laugh at people that want to flame, knowing that they wouldn't go where I go, and haven't seen what I see and probably would shit their little grape smugglers if they had to do what I do......To me, this board is entertaining with good and not so good info on the AAS experiences of each individual on their quest to better themselves ....Personally, I don't think gear should be outlawed....Let the HRT clinics have the freedom to prescribe and supervise their therapy with constant monitoring of levels , etc....Anyway....I might have had too much coffee this morning......
Ok, this may be TOO obvious....
What they prefer? A cop who's used some steroids & who knows that a few multidose vials of testosterone and a bottle
of Dbol IS NOT EXACTLY FELLONY POSSESION W/ INTENT TO DEAL, or some dork who knows NOTHING about steroids but
has a badge and a gun?
Not hard for me to answer.
Other thing is lots these guys dont realise they can get clean legal gear and use less of it than the kitchen stuff they
grown up on.
You may also want to move by me, removing snapping turtles from the park is one of the common danger jobs for my local cops ;D.
SOme look a bit swole too. Them turtles get big up here....
Bang'ers stand out so bad in my area they dont even venture in much. They'll get pulled over on sight for somthing.
My village had the distinction of highest per capita LE spending in the state few yrs back.
That raised a big stink.
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Hahahahahah...well yet another internet tough guy......you wouldn't say those things to Vic Mackey.....now would you....???? It's like when you roll up on a call where some poor banger has been shot in a drive by with an assault rifle and his entire hip is blown off along with the femoral artery severed and people are screaming at you to help him, then, when it is time to get a description of the car or any information, they all of a sudden don't know nothin'......Then, they start threatening you from their porches like it's your fault the ambulance hasn't arrived at warp speed....They become "porch" tough guys.....Internet tough guys are the same way....they say things to you that they probably wouldn't say if they were up close and personal.....Ofcourse they will claim they will, but in all reality, most big dudes have been getting by on their size their whole lives.....To just come off with a comment attacking someones character when you don't even know them reminds me of the shitbags at work....and ultimately, they don't even exist in my world. I wasn't even going to respond again to the ridiculous comments calling me a hypocrite and no matter what the response, this is the last I'm saying about it.....So much for the rule of "no flaming" on the boards...Hey , if I want' to be abused, I can just wait and go to work! ;D To all the brothers that have supported me in here thanks! But don't worry, I have tough skin and I have a tendency to laugh at people that want to flame, knowing that they wouldn't go where I go, and haven't seen what I see and probably would shit their little grape smugglers if they had to do what I do......To me, this board is entertaining with good and not so good info on the AAS experiences of each individual on their quest to better themselves ....Personally, I don't think gear should be outlawed....Let the HRT clinics have the freedom to prescribe and supervise their therapy with constant monitoring of levels , etc....Anyway....I might have had too much coffee this morning......
LMAO at "porch - tough guy" ;D
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Hahahahahah...well yet another internet tough guy......you wouldn't say those things to Vic Mackey.....now would you....???? It's like when you roll up on a call where some poor banger has been shot in a drive by with an assault rifle and his entire hip is blown off along with the femoral artery severed and people are screaming at you to help him, then, when it is time to get a description of the car or any information, they all of a sudden don't know nothin'......Then, they start threatening you from their porches like it's your fault the ambulance hasn't arrived at warp speed....They become "porch" tough guys.....Internet tough guys are the same way....they say things to you that they probably wouldn't say if they were up close and personal.....Ofcourse they will claim they will, but in all reality, most big dudes have been getting by on their size their whole lives.....To just come off with a comment attacking someones character when you don't even know them reminds me of the shitbags at work....and ultimately, they don't even exist in my world. I wasn't even going to respond again to the ridiculous comments calling me a hypocrite and no matter what the response, this is the last I'm saying about it.....So much for the rule of "no flaming" on the boards...Hey , if I want' to be abused, I can just wait and go to work! ;D To all the brothers that have supported me in here thanks! But don't worry, I have tough skin and I have a tendency to laugh at people that want to flame, knowing that they wouldn't go where I go, and haven't seen what I see and probably would shit their little grape smugglers if they had to do what I do......To me, this board is entertaining with good and not so good info on the AAS experiences of each individual on their quest to better themselves ....Personally, I don't think gear should be outlawed....Let the HRT clinics have the freedom to prescribe and supervise their therapy with constant monitoring of levels , etc....Anyway....I might have had too much coffee this morning......
So your police idols are tv characters? I don't get it. How am I being an internet tough guy? Am I being a tough guy because I challenged you intellectually and you aren't smart enough to be able to respond intelligently? Awwwww, did I hurt your feelings. I asked a simple question. So, officer hypocrite answer the question. Would you felony bust the guy you pulled over who has say a few thousand ius of growth sitting in PLAIN VIEW?
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About 10iu a day would be 3650iu in a year.
Thats 152 24iu vials.
Interesting question, food for thought.
If he was alone, he could choose not to see it and ignore it.
Cops have ignored way worse than that. part of it depends on how you act.
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Here's my problem with this police if he really is one (I have my doubts though-he uses jargon that sounds like he watches too much tv and that police themselves don't use). He's a guy that is sworn to enforce the laws. Yet he bends them when it suits him. Sure he supposedly got a script, but as we all know from the recent hrt clinic busts and the cops in NYC that got popped under the SAME CIRCUMSTANCES (they all had scripts too), just because you have a script doesn't mean you are protected. And there is nothing I dislike more than a hypcrite. So, if he says he busts the guy he pulls over for gh, then he's a hypocrite b/c he used himself under less than legal circumstances. If he lets the guy go, he is a hypocrite b/c he is sworn to uphold the law. This guy is just not man ehough to answer my question.
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If you've been given a script taht was offer'd, and contracted as from a US Lisc Dr
and it turns out you were defrauded, you are not guilty of a crime. The "Dr" and clinic are.
There were only a few that were fradulent, and wait for this to play out in court.
The issue they are making is not legal charges against athletes and others thet violated league or other "Policies". You cant be charged for a crime someone else perpetrated on you unknowingly.
THere are still MANY online Drs practicing medicine of various sorts LEGALY. Some scammers took advantage. No different that giving false credentials to get a Dr job.
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If you've been given a script taht was offer'd, and contracted as from a US Lisc Dr
and it turns out you were defrauded, you are not guilty of a crime. The "Dr" and clinic are.
There were only a few that were fradulent, and wait for this to play out in court.
The issue they are making is not legal charges against athletes and others thet violated league or other "Policies". You cant be charged for a crime someone else perpetrated on you unknowingly.
THere are still MANY online Drs practicing medicine of various sorts LEGALY. Some scammers took advantage. No different that giving false credentials to get a Dr job.
Actually you are wrong on the first part of your post. If you go to an hrt doc and he writes you a script for 500mgs/wk of test, 200 mgs of deca and also gives you some winstrol to stack somewhere in there, you can be held criminally liable. The standard is if you knew or reasonably should have known that the script was not hrt, then you are as guilty as the doc that wrote it. let's face it, this supposed police on here knew or should have known that the dosages that he was getting were not hrt.
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Actually you are wrong on the first part of your post. If you go to an hrt doc and he writes you a script for 500mgs/wk of test, 200 mgs of deca and also gives you some winstrol to stack somewhere in there, you can be held criminally liable. The standard is if you knew or reasonably should have known that the script was not hrt, then you are as guilty as the doc that wrote it. let's face it, this supposed police on here knew or should have known that the dosages that he was getting were not hrt.
Many of the clinics were dispensing a years worth of HGh & AAS at a time as standard.
Writing it for BBing is not ok, and the Dr and clinic will get in a jam.
Dr is free to write as see fit for off label use, and tailor dose to the individual. Many drugs are prescribed in doses that would kill or harm the general individual. SOme individuals need higher doses, thats up to the Drs discression.
Sorry, The patient WILL NOT get in trouble for using ANY med as directed by his Dr.
THere's guys driving Cement truck on large doses of methadone that would incapacitate you. ;)
THink about that the next time one is on your ass.
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So, go ahead and call me names. The fact remains that you are a hypocrite of the first order and should be ashamed to wear your badge.
He didn't call you any names. You called him one and he has been very respectful and polite about it.
I disagree about him being a hypocrite, but that's just my opinion. I don't think you can compare hormones to the types of drugs that cause people to commit crimes either while under the influence of them or to buy more of them.
When was the last time someone robbed a convienient store to get the money to buy some dianabol? When was the last time someone under the influence of deca ran a redlight and crashed into a car killing a 3 year old boy and his mother?
I'm not bashing you bro. I'm just saying (to me) the hypocrite thing is not that cut and dry. Just another perspective.
Personally, I think military personnel in a war zone, firefighters and police officers, ought to be provided steroids free of charge.
If they are coming to help me, I want them to be jacked to the gills.
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He didn't call you any names. You called him one and he has been very respectful and polite about it.
I disagree about him being a hypocrite, but that's just my opinion. I don't think you can compare hormones to the types of drugs that cause people to commit crimes either while under the influence of them or to buy more of them.
When was the last time someone robbed a convienient store to get the money to buy some dianabol? When was the last time someone under the influence of deca ran a redlight and crashed into a car killing a 3 year old boy and his mother?
I'm not bashing you bro. I'm just saying (to me) the hypocrite thing is not that cut and dry. Just another perspective.
Personally, I think military personnel in a war zone, firefighters and police officers, ought to be provided steroids free of charge.
If they are coming to help me, I want them to be jacked to the gills.
I think the hypocrite part would only come into play if he arrested ME for something. :)
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I think the hypocrite part would only come into play if he arrested ME for something. :)
Good point. I guess under those circumstances, we all would.
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Trab is right, if your MD prescribes you 10000 mg's of vicoden every 3 hours for a minor tooth ache and you have a 55 gallon drum of the stuff, you CANT get popped for it. Same with HRT
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Trab is right, if your MD prescribes you 10000 mg's of vicoden every 3 hours for a minor tooth ache and you have a 55 gallon drum of the stuff, you CANT get popped for it. Same with HRT
THey'd prescribe morphine or other SCH II, but your logic is sound. THe Dr is assumed the expert, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THEIR DOSING OR REPORT PROBLEM AS TO WHY NOT.
That would be say they prescribed 100mg of morphine and it didnt work or you had problems.
Peoples reaction to drugs is greatly varried. There is someone that needs a 2oomg dose of that painkiller. But It would kill many people if they took it.
Drs are given sort of God Like power in the USA.
There was a study in the New England Journal or med years back done with 600mg of TE ew for a stretch.
Google it. Testosterone research, muscle gains, NEJ of Medicine.
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I hope I'm not getting off-topic here: but i've endlessly researched Testo for about 3 months now. Looking at NEJM, IMJ and many other scholastic medical journals and Ive yet to find ANY negative article about moderate (under 750mg a week) of test. so WTF, why cant i get my insur to pay for it??
Because muscle building is not an approved use for prescription here in the US. HRT and some diseases that affect height in children are, so they can prescibe for those reasons. If it is not approved for a specific medicinal use in the US, a doctor could lose his license if he prescribed it for that use.
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Because muscle building is not an approved use for prescription here in the US. HRT and some diseases that affect height in children are, so they can prescibe for those reasons. If it is not approved for a specific medicinal use in the US, a doctor could lose his license if he prescribed it for that use.
The above hits is on the head, you need bitch about the symptoms of low test and have VERY LOW TEST for a Dr in the "Traditional Medical System'" to write.
Get a HRT clinic, they'll write. BUT NOT FOR BODYBUILDING.
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every time I see the title of this thread I laugh...