Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mwbbuilder on October 29, 2007, 07:02:30 PM
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Not a Pro
Not Denniis James
Not Marcus Ruhl
Not McFarland
He is none other than......
John DiLauro of Xtreme Labs.
Check out the unmistakable writing similairy:
Writing style (jumbled, bunched, with run on sentneces)
Extensive knowledge of anabloics and other chemisry (own supplement company so he has to know this stuff)
Frustrated former natural bodybuilder who went on the juice and stiill failed misably
Irregular and very odd use of punctuation
Look at this thread he posted some time back and tell me what you think:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82922.msg1272702#msg1272702
Search for more threads with John Dilauro and GetItOnNY
No IFBB pro with be this obsessed about what natural bodybuilders do or don't do
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i would say probably someone who's natural growth stoped at 65kg ,5'7 guy
sad really
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not a chance.
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gh15 = ron
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I don't think so. Nice try, though...seriously.
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Sorry try again.
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nice try but
gh15=
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gh15 is definetly NOT american... and not because of the punctuation, spelling and syntax errors which very well could be intentional....
he is far to worldy and knowledgeable about other countries/world politics to be an ignorant porn-surfing football watching american male. nuff said.
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I had always thought gh15 would be someone who tried his hand at natural bodybuilding and simply failed miserably then took steroids and has doubted anyone who claimed to be natural.
the writing styles are very similar though...
all i know is that he is absolutely obsessed with people who claim they are natural.
and also he is no pro.
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Look at the debate with himself here. See the similarities.Especially the terminolgyand the very odd lack of spacing between words and sentences. They are the only tow people who do that on this board.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82693.0
Mc farland, you want the drama to continue. :)
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gh15 is definetly NOT american... and not because of the punctuation, spelling and syntax errors which very well could be intentional....
he is far to worldy and knowledgeable about other countries/world politics to be an ignorant porn-surfing football watching american male. nuff said.
Agreed
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gh15 hates LIARS not naturals. big difference.
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gh15 is definetly NOT american... and not because of the punctuation, spelling and syntax errors which very well could be intentional....
he is far to worldy and knowledgeable about other countries/world politics to be an ignorant porn-surfing football watching american male. nuff said.
DiLauro knows his stuff. He has a supplement company and he uses. Read his posts.
You have to agree he is just as knowlegable as gh15 (no wonder).
Read the posts!
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gh15 hates LIARS not naturals. big difference.
not really he refuses to believe someone is natural when they say they are, if they look good.
his problem is with the subject they are lying about not necessarily the fact that they lying.
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Look at the debate with himself here. See the similarities.Especially the terminolgyand the very odd lack of spacing between words and sentences. They are the only tow people who do that on this board.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82693.0
Mc farland, you want the drama to continue. :)
Yeah, I like him alot.
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Agreed
So what's DiLauro's excuse for having the same erratic irregular puncuation as gh15?
Who knows more about drugs than those "two"?
Read the posts.
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nice try but
gh15=
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7066/ballfl2.gif)
gh15 is an orange frog?
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So what's DiLauro's excuse for having the same erratic irregular puncuation as gh15?
Who knows more about drugs than those "two"?
Read the posts.
i just bumped his old thread.
they are near identical, dude.
And I remember when john ny got owned horribly here. His pics came out. he was mortified with all the heat he got. Then gh15 was born afterwards. hmmmmmmmmmmm
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gh15 hates LIARS not naturals. big difference.
That's all irrelevant
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DiLauro knows his stuff. He has a supplement company and he uses. Read his posts.
You have to agree he is just as knowlegable as gh15 (no wonder).
Read the posts!
not saying dilauro doesn't know his stuff (not gonna read it though wiht all that methoxy BS and whatnot)... but so do many many many so called "experts"
layne norton can come on here and draw you a graph of protein metabolism vs. time post workout and explain how the curve's steepness deccelarates as you move farther away from the origin point... blah blah blah blah..
gh15's knowledge is NOT book knowledge... you can tell this guy has knowedgle that only comes from years and years of experience with different hormones, drugs, etc... even if not a pro his knowledge is screams personal real-world experiance and not college textbook knowledge.
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How would you explain all the international subject matter in gh15's post? And he references his being foreign WAY too much for him not to be.
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Also, why would a guy in Europe be so obsessed about what's going on in the USA steroid world? Why would he care?
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How would you explain all the international subject matter in gh15's post? And he references his being foreign WAY too much for him not to be.
Supplement/nutritional science, cutting edge information, supplement suppliers overseas that ship to US for OTC supplements (like German creatine and Whatever from China).
US supplement companies get their ingredients overseas.
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Also, why would a guy in Europe be so obsessed about what's going on in the USA steroid world? Why would he care?
The whole world "cares" about what goes on in America, when we don't care jack shit about what they're doing. And Nasser explained in his interview that the US is the only place you can make any money or market yourself in bodybuilding. If you're good (world class) in any other country you come to America.
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gh15:
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i believe gh15 lives in the USA (at least part of the year)...
he is way to fond of walmart and their pappettis egg whites product ;D brother needs to get out some.
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Supplement/nutritional science, cutting edge information, supplement suppliers overseas that ship to US for OTC supplements (like German creatine and Whatever from China).
US supplement companies get their ingredients overseas.
Nah, he is very keen on cultural differences.
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The whole world "cares" about what goes on in America, when we don't care jack shit about what they're doing. And Nasser explained in his interview that the US is the only place you can make any money or market yourself in bodybuilding. If you're good (world class) in any other country you come to America.
Point taken. But I'm talking about his obsession with "criminal" steroid dealers in the US and those who ABUSE steroids. A guy in Europe wouldn't care.
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gh15 is adonis
there i said it...
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Point taken. But I'm talking about his obsession with "criminal" steroid dealers in the US and those who ABUSE steroids. A guy in Europe wouldn't care.
Well now he's trying to backtrack and show the authorities mad respect because that operation Raw Deal thing shook him just a bit I think. It's why he's stopped gloating about dealing, too.
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Nah, he is very keen on cultural differences.
You are ASSUMING what he says about different cultures is accurate. This is an ENGLISH written board.
His main argrumentr are always the same:
1. (by far) bodybuilders who claim they are natural He is obsessed with them.
2. drug sales and distribution (criminal aspects and ripoffs)
3. the bad stuff circulatiing and abuse in the US
He rarely talk about anything else.
What does he say about different cultures besides what country sells what?
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Well now he's trying to backtrack and show the authorities mad respect because that operation Raw Deal thing shook him just a bit I think. It's why he's stopped gloating about dealing, too.
why is gh15 so supportive of LE and raw deal??
easy. back when he used to talk openly about his dealings he made it clear he was a european supplier of human grade gear. american UGLs go down... what happens? a gigantic chunk of his competitors in the steroid market goes down. more of the market share for him. more money for him to be made. thats why.
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DiLauro knows his stuff. He has a supplement company and he uses. Read his posts.
You have to agree he is just as knowlegable as gh15 (no wonder).
Read the posts!
I don't know if DiLaro actually knew his stuff, all I know is that his posts were full of bullshit. If he was serious with what he was saying he was a complete moron.
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Check out this thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82922.0
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I don't know if DiLaro actually knew his stuff, all I know is that his posts were full of bullshit. If he was serious with what he was saying he was a complete moron.
Uhhhh...and what is different about gh15 exactly? :)
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Man I've gotten to the point where I'm afraid it'll fuck me up if I'm TOO wrong on who I think this guy is. Anybody else feel that way? That's called cognitive dissonance. It leads us to try to maintain our current beliefs, hence all the bias you see people having towards their viewpoints in light of sometimes HUGE reason to the contrary. I told gh15 it's why he met so much flack when he tried to tell people Steve Reeves used drugs, and I'm telling you guys that it's why gh15 is so hesitant to believe that even guys like jrod are drug free. IMO, he has a set viewpoint about everyone being on drugs and how drugs are the number one cause of success in bodybuilding that prevents him from feeling guilt from not doing more than he did as a pro. It's my opinion that gh15 likely could have trained or dieted harder and done better than what he actually did during his career. This is where his "there are no naturals" bias originates.
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Uhhhh...and what is different about gh15 exactly? :)
The difference is that DiLauro claimed Gamma Oryzanol and Tribulus worked great while gh15 says steroids work great. One of these is a true statement.
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why is gh15 so supportive of LE and raw deal??
easy. back when he used to talk openly about his dealings he made it clear he was a european supplier of human grade gear. american UGLs go down... what happens? a gigantic chunk of his competitors in the steroid market goes down. more of the market share for him. more money for him to be made. thats why.
Nah they could get his ass if he made their shit list.
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Interesting that you should post "for definite" when it seems anything but the case. I say interesting because GH15 in general somehow manages to enthuse this type of declaration on a weekly basis.
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Man I've gotten to the point where I'm afraid it'll fuck me up if I'm TOO wrong on who I think this guy is. Anybody else feel that way? That's called cognitive dissonance. It leads us to try to maintain our current beliefs, hence all the bias you see people having towards their viewpoints in light of sometimes HUGE reason to the contrary. I told gh15 it's why he met so much flack when he tried to tell people Steve Reeves used drugs, and I'm telling you guys that it's why gh15 is so hesitant to believe that even guys like jrod are drug free. IMO, he has a set viewpoint that prevents him from feeling guilt from not doing more than he did as a pro. It's my opinion that gh15 likely could have trained or dieted harder and done better than what he actually did during his career. This is where his "there are no naturals" bias originates.
I know what you are saying.
the trouble is you can't step into the mind of a dissociative personality unless you are one.
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Interesting that you should post "for definite" when it seems anything but the case. I say interesting because GH15 in general somehow manages to enthuse this type of declaration on a weekly basis.
"anything but the case"?
Now THAT'S a "for definite" statement.
How so? I presented an argument.
Why don't you present yours rather than stating "anything but the case"?
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I know what you are saying.
the trouble is you can't step into the mind of a dissociative personality unless you are one.
How do you mean "dissociative personality?"
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"anything but the case"?
Now THAT'S a "for definite" statement.
How so? I presented an argument.
Why don't you present yours rather than stating "anything but the case"?
You say something's "for definite" when you want opposing viewpoints presented...because subconsciously you still know you're wrong. ;D
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see i see getbig as 2 groups of people one group is the shofildkid,,mattc,,vanb,,coach,,mcfarland,,dante,,arnold j number of other guys,,that if i crushed on a lost island with this group we would be out of there in a matter of days,,why? because they got big big big brains smart people that wouldnt sit on the ass and wait for miricle but gettheir own ass and everyone elses out of that place working together
then there is mmw,,suckmuscle,,few other people that if i crushed with them on lost island,,id be fuckin dead because by the time they think about a way out they would be starved to death,,they think too much and are all over the place,,living off the book and not out of real experience,,we would be dead all of us if my life dependent on them,,thank god its not ;D
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see i see getbig as 2 groups of people one group is the shofildkid,,mattc,,vanb,,coach,,mcfarland,,dante,,arnold j number of other guys,,that if i crushed on a lost island with this group we would be out of there in a matter of days,,why? because they got big big big brains smart people that wouldnt sit on the ass and wait for miricle but gettheir own ass and everyone elses out of that place working together
then there is mmw,,suckmuscle,,few other people that if i crushed with them on lost island,,id be fuckin dead because by the time they think about a way out they would be starved to death,,they think too much and are all over the place,,living off the book and not out of real experience,,we would be dead all of us if my life dependent on them,,thank god its not ;D
And your point is what in the context of this argument?
We aren't arguing any of your points. I'm just saying you and John are the same person.
Actually, your views and John's views are exactly the same.
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), as defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV-TR), is a mental condition whereby a single individual evidences two or more distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. The diagnosis requires that at least two personalities routinely take control of the individual's behavior and that there is associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness, often referred to as losing time or acute Dissociative Amnesia[1]. The symptoms of DID must not be the direct result of substance abuse or a more general medical condition in order to be diagnosed. DID was originally named Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), and, as referenced above, that name remains in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems.
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gh15 demonstrating masterful usage of the english langauge at 1:30
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see i see getbig as 2 groups of people one group is the shofildkid,,mattc,,vanb,,coach,,mcfarland,,dante,,arnold j number of other guys,,that if i crushed on a lost island with this group we would be out of there in a matter of days,,why? because they got big big big brains smart people that wouldnt sit on the ass and wait for miricle but gettheir own ass and everyone elses out of that place working together
then there is mmw,,suckmuscle,,few other people that if i crushed with them on lost island,,id be fuckin dead because by the time they think about a way out they would be starved to death,,they think too much and are all over the place,,living off the book and not out of real experience,,we would be dead all of us if my life dependent on them,,thank god its not ;D
A classic case of DESTROY the messenger without addressing the point.
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And your point is what in the context of this argument?
We aren't arguing any of your points. I'm just saying you and John are the same person.
Actually, you and John's views are exactly the same.
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), as defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV-TR), is a mental condition whereby a single individual evidences two or more distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. The diagnosis requires that at least two personalities routinely take control of the individual's behavior and that there is associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness, often referred to as losing time or acute Dissociative Amnesia[1]. The symptoms of DID must not be the direct result of substance abuse or a more general medical condition in order to be diagnosed. DID was originally named Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), and, as referenced above, that name remains in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems.
Everything in my schema leading me to identify gh15 as who I think he is agrees with everything that gh15 has ever said, and I don't need to classify him as insane to make it all add up. You do, so I'd say keep working on it. It really was a nice try, though. Creative. Out-of-the-box. ;D
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And your point is what in the context of this argument?
We aren't arguing any of your points. I'm just saying you and John are the same person.
Actually, your views and John's views are exactly the same.
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), as defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV-TR), is a mental condition whereby a single individual evidences two or more distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. The diagnosis requires that at least two personalities routinely take control of the individual's behavior and that there is associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness, often referred to as losing time or acute Dissociative Amnesia[1]. The symptoms of DID must not be the direct result of substance abuse or a more general medical condition in order to be diagnosed. DID was originally named Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), and, as referenced above, that name remains in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems.
my friend relax,,im not john from xtreme like you think,,he and i hated eachother at the begginign when we started talking on getbig,,we used to fight all the time,,but after i read him for a while i thought he meant good and was nice person but im no john and i dont own a supplement company i only do one and only one single thing and it is professional bodybuilding
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Everything in my schema agrees with everything that gh15 has ever said, and I don't need to classify him as insane to make it all add up. You do.
That point is well taken.
I'm don't mean to say he's insane. He could very well be just screwing with everyone and getting his point across without revealing his identity.
I refered to a term and you asked me what it was. I pulled that off Wikapedia.
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my friend relax,,im not john from xtreme like you think,,he and i hated eachother at the begginign when we started talking on getbig,,we used to fight all the time,,but after i read him for a while i thought he meant good and was nice person but im no john and i dont own a supplement company i only do one and only one single thing and it is professional bodybuilding
interesting
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interesting
See? ;D
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Convinced it's not John now?
No. Look at the writing patterns, style, puncuation, and most of all THE OBSESSIVE SUBJECT MATTER.
It's all the same.
The fighting with each other brought me back to an earlier thought I had.
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A classic case of DESTROY the messenger without addressing the point.
na my friend,,i just write on gossip and opinion because that is what it is gossip and opinion ,,the reason it makes so much noise is because everything i write is true because i have been there as a professional bodybuilder,,pay attention to the have as in present perfect or present tense in american language
i always treat everyone with respect but some are just seriously off their head or med,,take a look for exmple at that shofild kid fella,,from the first coupel times i read what he says i decided that he is a smart fella and know his shit upside down and then some,,same for vanb and even coach,,you cant fake knowledge and information ,,the guys i think know what their talking about always get full respect from me even the ones who hate me and cant stand me and there are many who cant stand me ;)
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That point is well taken.
I'm don't mean to say he's insane. He could very well be just screwing with everyone and getting his point across without revealing his identity.
I refered to a term and you asked me what it was. I pulled that off Wikapedia.
Yeah I don't guess having dissociative personality traits necessarily would qualify you as insane, because it also says here on Wikipedia that "in the normal population mild dissociative experiences are highly prevalent, with 60% to 65% of the respondents indicating that they have had dissociative experiences at least some of the time." So maybe I was being a little extreme in saying that.
But to explain John being gh15, it really would require him to pretty much have what you could essentially call multiple personality disorder, which I guess is the other end of dissociation, if holding views that make you mildly cognitive dissonant is the other. In both cases, your consciousness has to "turn away" from the truth at some point.
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na my friend,,i just write on gossip and opinion because that is what it is gossip and opinion ,,the reason it makes so much noise is because everything i write is true because i have been there as a professional bodybuilder,,pay attention to the have as in present perfect or present tense in american language
i always treat everyone with respect but some are just seriously off their head or med,,take a look for exmple at that shofild kid fella,,from the first coupel times i read what he says i decided that he is a smart fella and know his shit upside down and then some,,same for vanb and even coach,,you cant fake knowledge and information ,,the guys i think know what their talking about always get full respect from me even the ones who hate me and cant stand me and there are many who cant stand me ;)
I'm not questioning anything you say....IN THIS THREAD.
I'm saying you're John.
That's all. how respected you are or are not is NOT the point.
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He's trying to save you face bro. Calm down for a minute and consider that you might still be wrong. Dude, isn't there an easier explanation? I don't really even think he means for it to be such a huge mystery anymore.
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He's trying to save you face bro. Calm down for a minute and consider that you might still be wrong. Dude, isn't there an easier explanation?
Why would he have to save me face?
The only debate here is:
Yes, I am John DiLauro
or
No, I am not John DiLauro
Everything else he is bringing up is irrelevant and a distraction.
Check out this thread, McFarland. Out of the thousands of different writing styles, do you really think the two are that different? Show me two that are even close to being that unique and similar.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82693.0
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john is not a pro or is he? i dont even know,,dont know the fella only from getbig and i know he has company for supplements and he offered me to test them free and give feedback which i as alwaays with other 100s of offers decline respecfully ,,well as much as i can be respectful in my barbaric way
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Why would he have to ave me face?
The only debate here is:
Yes, I am John DiLauro
or
No, I am not John DiLauro
Everything else he is bringing up is irrelevant and a distraction.
Check out this thread, McFarland. Out of the thousands of different writing styles, do you really think the two are that different? Show me two that are even close to being that unique and similar.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82693.0
He's feeling sorry for you when you realize you were wrong after having been so insistent on it. And the cadence is different in their postings, if you ask me, which is way more telling that punctuation or spelling.
Now, I'll give you this much. My "schema" also allows for him to have lied a couple of times when giving us the clues as to his identity. That's sorta like what you've had to do to get GetItOnNY to fit. But gh15 has indicated that he believes in white lies too, though, so I don't think I'm bending my bracket too much in doing what I've done to make the pieces fit.
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na my friend,,i just write on gossip and opinion because that is what it is gossip and opinion ,,the reason it makes so much noise is because everything i write is true because i have been there as a professional bodybuilder,,pay attention to the have as in present perfect or present tense in american language
i always treat everyone with respect but some are just seriously off their head or med,,take a look for exmple at that shofild kid fella,,from the first coupel times i read what he says i decided that he is a smart fella and know his shit upside down and then some,,same for vanb and even coach,,you cant fake knowledge and information ,,the guys i think know what their talking about always get full respect from me even the ones who hate me and cant stand me and there are many who cant stand me ;)
thanks gh15!
to be honest i joined getbig mainly so i could ask you questions. because you are the authority on hormones/bodybuilding in my book. its not to say i think you know more than any other pro, but you are the only pro (as you say) that allows himself to speak on the matter. plus you are a supporter of israel which makes you smart smart man regardless of what you know about hormones.
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Someone already saw this last year:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82922.msg2496660#msg2496660
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gh15
Is this you? http://gh15.on.nimp.org (http://gh15.on.nimp.org)
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He's feeling sorry for you when you realize you were wrong after having been so insistent on it. And the cadence is different in their postings, if you ask me, which is way more telling that punctuation or spelling.
Now, I'll give you this much. My "schema" also allows for him to have lied a couple of times when giving us the clues as to his identity. That's sorta like what you've had to do to get GetItOnNY to fit. But gh15 has indicated that he believes in white lies too, though, so I don't think I'm bending my bracket too much in doing what I've done to make the pieces fit.
That's funny. So you were lying to seem like someone else. That's really funny.
It's interesting how you go in and out of referring to yourself in the third person.
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Someone already saw this last year:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82922.msg2496660#msg2496660
You're suggesting that gh15 has a multiple personality in which one believes in nutrition and the other in drugs. Ha ha ha.
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thanks gh15!
to be honest i joined getbig mainly so i could ask you questions. because you are the authority on hormones/bodybuilding in my book. its not to say i think you know more than any other pro, but you are the only pro (as you say) that allows himself to speak on the matter. plus you are a supporter of israel which makes you smart smart man regardless of what you know about hormones.
Nice logic.
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That's funny. So you were lying to seem like someone else. That's really funny.
It's interesting how you go in and out of referring to yourself in the third person.
;)
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You're suggesting that gh15 has a multiple personality in which one believes in nutrition and the other in drugs. Ha ha ha.
There's only one or the other? What would John and Gh15 have to debate about unless they took opposing views?
:)
What? Should they agreee with each? That wouldn't be interesting banter.
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So which is it, is gh15 me, or GetItOnNY? ;D
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So which is it, is gh15 me, or GetItOnNY? ;D
Wasn't that a Jim Carrey movie? :)
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the best indicator is punctutation. gh15's punctuation is very consistent and it's not anything we see from "getitonNY". it's sort of like watching d's and t's with handwriting, that's the kind of thing you have to be extremely conscious of in order to avoid slipping up and isn't something most people would even notice when they write.
na my friend,,i just write on gossip and opinion because that is what it is gossip and opinion ,,the reason it makes so much noise is because everything i write is true because i have been there as a professional bodybuilder,,pay attention to the have as in present perfect or present tense in american language
i always treat everyone with respect but some are just seriously off their head or med,,take a look for exmple at that shofild kid fella,,from the first coupel times i read what he says i decided that he is a smart fella and know his shit upside down and then some,,same for vanb and even coach,,you cant fake knowledge and information ,,the guys i think know what their talking about always get full respect from me even the ones who hate me and cant stand me and there are many who cant stand me ;)
I got a PM asking me how well does Milk Thistle work.Mailk Thistle doesnt work bad after a cycle, but it does nothing to lower liver enzymes, which are raised by steroid use, especially oral steroids.I advice to take a lemon cut it in half, put one of the halves in the blender.Then add a 1/4 cup of pineapple juice, a half cup of Olive oil ,then add 1 cup of water.To add a little of flavor use a tablespoon of splenda.Now take all of those ingredients and put them all in a blender, and blend it until its all liquid.Now pour in a cup and drink it, do this for 7 to 10 days .This will clean out your ststem and lower you liver enzymes drastically.You can also use Milk Thistle if you want. to help cleqan out your system but it is not neccesry
notice how gh15 almost always, almost 100% of the time uses double commas while john doesn't. both of them typo like fucking crazy, so if he was swift enough to make a change like that in his typing style and do with complete and utter consistency, he'd also probably do things like "spell correctly" and "not make typos".
if you're normal posting is that prone to mistakes, then the odds of you being able to make a minor punctuation alteration like that and never slip up while never fixing your other typos are long indeed. it would have been a lot faster to simply fix the mistakes he made and capitalize words.
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"anything but the case"?
Now THAT'S a "for definite" statement.
How so? I presented an argument.
Why don't you present yours rather than stating "anything but the case"?
I don't have any argument against your argument. I am saying, you claim to have implicitly proven who he is. That is as usual on this board, complete and utter tripe. It doesn't matter what the truth is, you claim you've finally revealed him before you've actually proven it. Another misleading title.
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I don't have any argument against your argument. I am saying, you claim to have implicitly proven who he is. That is as usual on this board, complete and utter tripe. It doesn't matter what the truth is, you claim you've finally revealed him before you've actually proven it. Another misleading title.
As sure as I am of who he is, I'd never say it was "definitely" him. Probably not unless like he told me himself things that would be uniquely identifying. I think you can be too sure of certain things.
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the best indicator is punctutation. gh15's punctuation is very consistent and it's not anything we see from "getitonNY". it's sort of like watching d's and t's with handwriting, that's the kind of thing you have to be extremely conscious of in order to avoid slipping up and isn't something most people would even notice when they write.
notice how gh15 almost always, almost 100% of the time uses double commas while john doesn't. both of them typo like fucking crazy, so if he was swift enough to make a change like that in his typing style and do with complete and utter consistency, he'd also probably do things like "spell correctly" and "not make typos".
if you're normal posting is that prone to mistakes, then the odds of you being able to make a minor punctuation alteration like that and never slip up while never fixing your other typos are long indeed. it would have been a lot faster to simply fix the mistakes he made and capitalize words.
So you're saying he is him or isn't him?
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both of them typo like fucking crazy,
:D :D :D i cant stop laughing,,good one
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Damn, I just spent 5 minutes reading this worthless horseshit.....nice thread ::)
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So you're saying he is him or isn't him?
not a chance. if gh15 was meticulous enough to get that comma situation, he'd have completely overhauled his typing to remove any similarities and avoided the comparisons in the first place. it'd be like if a criminal tried to hide from the police by talking with an irish accent all the time.
both of them typo like fucking crazy,
:D :D :D i cant stop laughing,,good one
your difficulty with your keyboard may be the one thing that saves you from false identifications, my friend. 8)
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I don't have any argument against your argument. I am saying, you claim to have implicitly proven who he is. That is as usual on this board, complete and utter tripe. It doesn't matter what the truth is, you claim you've finally revealed him before you've actually proven it. Another misleading title.
Okay. I understand what you are saying. I'm using hyperbole.
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I noticed the thing about the commas too. That's just one factor. They both do weird and unique things with the commas that you won't see Anywhere else.
Would you agree that there are many, many other unique random similarities?
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Random sampling of John, a random fan of gh15, and gh15
Getitonny
First of all acid hydrolisis is a scientific test that mimicks human digestion period!!!It is a tank that shows, and measures human digestion, there is no guess work or hypothesis , its just a fact.Whey digest faster then casenate, but caseinate digests slower, thus making is a sustained release protein .Van I have read your past posts, and your very knowledgeable, but on this particular subject trust me what I stated is actually facts.I have atleast a couple of thousand hours, formulating, studying, and research protein and iits digestion in the huamn body
Till_I-Collapse
Of course I don't know the guy, but he has been more creditable than many PROs that post here (already some of them has a track record of synthol!!). gh15 looks like he knows what he is talking about. I just doubt he will have time to respond because he must have been busy with his last minitue prep for the Olympia (provided he is a top PRO as he claims)!!
Gh15
no one accept lie detector machines,,not courts,,not no one,,police do it as first thing just for their own investigation because most people are dumb enough to take the product that will slow your heart rate and keep you calm like valium
passing lie detector is easy if you reduce heart rate and there are plenty meds that will do it for you,,lance armstrong plenty of times passed lie detector and the american peterson wouldnt be in prison if it was up to lie detector,,lie detector only works in x% of cases only problem is you cant figure out which so it may once work and one not work depending on how good the liar is and how much prep he had,,i can assure you bodybuilders are the BEST LIARS IN PLANET EARTH,,equivelent to sociopaths and im not kidding
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Nobody ever said it was a bad guess, and gh15 even dignified it with a denial so no need to feel foolish.
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Random sampling of John, a random fan of gh15, and gh15
Getitonny
Till_I-Collapse
Gh15
Read gh15's comments on lying there. 8)
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I noticed the thing about the commas too. That's just one factor. They both do weird and unique things with the commas that you won't see Anywhere else.
Would you agree that there are many, many other unique random similarities?
yes, but that's sort of like a brit and an aussie are the same person because they have an odd lilt to the way they say their long I's. sure they have similarities in that they make odd but systematic typos, but anyone hiding isn't going to simply change the way they fuck up with a new way they fuck up. they're going to either do it the same way or change it entirely.
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really huh
my endorsments will be finito,,no contracts anymore after that,,ifbb judges everytime they see me on stage will mark me and forget about placing well,,milos will have a contract on my life and send serbians after me,,and all that for getbig crowd to be happy,,,ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dont think so but thanks for asking :)
Some of that might happen but most of it is delusions of grandeur :)
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john doesnt have time to type and stay on the computer like gh15, and besides someone claimed john was a burnout bber who couldnt make it, well to let you know the reason he never made it is because all the bullcrap politics, he could easily place top 5 at the usa in his class, his highest placing in the usa was 7th, you guys are crazy, just like you use to think I was king-noli, when actually it was a trainer of mr. olympia............keep guessing, you guys will never figure it out.
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really huh
my endorsments will be finito,,no contracts anymore after that,,ifbb judges everytime they see me on stage will mark me and forget about placing well,,milos will have a contract on my life and send serbians after me,,and all that for getbig crowd to be happy,,,ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dont think so but thanks for asking :)
Reading the Milos part i think its either NAsser or Mustaffa
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gh 15 was a top amateur in the late 90s who moved to America and not from Europe, he never got his card but got close, he got right into the inner circle though and still lives in LA.
Most of his views are extreme and probably only represnt about 20% of pros , most pros do only take moderate dosages gram of test 600 deca off season along with insulin and hgh if you cant get big enough on that amount you havent got the genetics, just like he didnt. Hes a good guy but cant get past the point that his genetics werent good enough and all his views are based on what he did to be competitive, hes not on his own there are a lot of pros out there who are overcoming geneitcs to a point with mgs, but its a short life span.
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gh 15 was a top amateur in the late 90s who moved to America and not from Europe, he never got his card but got close, he got right into the inner circle though and still lives in LA.
Most of his views are extreme and probably only represnt about 20% of pros , most pros do only take moderate dosages gram of test 600 deca off season along with insulin and hgh if you cant get big enough on that amount you havent got the genetics, just like he didnt. Hes a good guy but cant get past the point that his genetics werent good enough and all his views are based on what he did to be competitive, hes not on his own there are a lot of pros out there who are overcoming geneitcs to a point with mgs, but its a short life span.
600 is not moderate that is way to much, deca is over rated.
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getitonny lies and bullshits occasionally..plus his knowledge is nothing to speak home to moommy about. Gh15 is a different animal....read his posts...again, again,,and again. ;)
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gh15 is definetly NOT american... and not because of the punctuation, spelling and syntax errors which very well could be intentional....
he is far to worldy and knowledgeable about other countries/world politics to be an ignorant porn-surfing football watching american male. nuff said.
Agreed. Add in the soccer facet. If he is a former pro, it can only be one. And no, it is not Roland C.
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Agreed. Add in the soccer facet. If he is a former pro, it can only be one. And no, it is not Roland C.
aww..just shut up..u talk like u know but ya do not.
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aww..just shut up..u talk like u know but ya do not.
Just using some Sherlock Holmes deductive reasoning, my angry second-world friend -ie. if you eliminate all other factors, the one that remains (however unlikely) must be the truth.
/you really are such a miserable, little fellow aren't you? :'(
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does nasser still compete on stage ?
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i would say probably someone who's natural growth stoped at 65kg ,5'7 guy
sad really
what's wrong with being 5'7ish.... :-X
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I am not GH 15.I am John DiLauro, owner of Extreme Labs. GH15 at were time bitter rivals, we hated each other for like a 2 month period.Then on one of our posts we kind of made a truce.
As far as my grammar, and typos, I could care less, this is get big for gods sake, not a biz presentation.Who takes get big seriously except maybe a handful of people.Plus I rarely ever type, I have a secretary who does all my typing, letters etc, .Thats why I suck at typing.
No, I am not a Pro Bodybuilder, I was a natural pro, with the PNBB and Musclemania, ,but I retired my Pro Natural cards, when I decided not to be natural any more.Unlike alot of so-called naturals.
As far as Gamma -Orazanol, and Tribulus. This is my theory. Gammao O if it is real has shown to raise testosterone in numerous clinical studies. But its not very strong., its actually very weak There are alot better natural ways to raise testosterone like Andro, Superdrol, as well as 50 other Androstene substrates.
Now when it comes Tribulus,if it is real Tribulus is just a leutenzing hormone. Meaning it helps regulate, and keep your own testosterone elevated.Tribulus by itself doesn't do much, but when it is "stacked " with Androstene, Superdrol its works 10 times more effective. Androsten acts as a turbo charger for Androstene .But if you just take Tribulus by itself, it wont do much, if anything at all.
I know I haven't posted here in awhile. The reason for this is people on this board will ask you a question, then they will challenge your answer, or even bash you. So my theory is if you know so much, why are you asking me?
My research, and knowledge if backed by 6200 hours of lab time, and tons and tons of research .not some internet B.S.I have my credentials, I have been both successful in business aswell as bodybuilding. So I have nothing to prove to anybody.
When I come on this board all I see is negative ,bitter , frustrated, and insecure guys, who feel the need to talk down to a person to make themselves feel better about themselves. I am not a negative person, there for I avoid negative things, and negative people.
I am not GH15,the guy knows alot more about anabolics then I Will probably ever know. I on the other hand am a chemist and I formulate supplements.So when it comes to supplements I know more then he Will probably ever know. We each have our own forte's.
GH 15 tells it like it is and keeps it real, when it comes to anabolics, and so-called natural bodybuilders. So he is a good person to have on this board. I am very surprised he still posts here, will all the negative people on here.He must have a very high tolerance or be very patient.
So there you have it I am not GH15, and I do not know who he is. god bless........John
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is extreme labs a front for steroid sales like so many of the other "supplement companies"?
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both of them typo like fucking crazy,
:D :D :D i cant stop laughing,,good one
This is gh15: http://steverubel.typepad.com/steverubelhi.jpg
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I am not GH 15.I am John DiLauro, owner of Extreme Labs. GH15 at were time bitter rivals, we hated each other for like a 2 month period.Then on one of our posts we kind of made a truce.
As far as my grammar, and typos, I could care less, this is get big for gods sake, not a biz presentation.Who takes get big seriously except maybe a handful of people.Plus I rarely ever type, I have a secretary who does all my typing, letters etc, .Thats why I suck at typing.
No, I am not a Pro Bodybuilder, I was a natural pro, with the PNBB and Musclemania, ,but I retired my Pro Natural cards, when I decided not to be natural any more.Unlike alot of so-called naturals.
As far as Gamma -Orazanol, and Tribulus. This is my theory. Gammao O if it is real has shown to raise testosterone in numerous clinical studies. But its not very strong., its actually very weak There are alot better natural ways to raise testosterone like Andro, Superdrol, as well as 50 other Androstene substrates.
Now when it comes Tribulus,if it is real Tribulus is just a leutenzing hormone. Meaning it helps regulate, and keep your own testosterone elevated.Tribulus by itself doesn't do much, but when it is "stacked " with Androstene, Superdrol its works 10 times more effective. Androsten acts as a turbo charger for Androstene .But if you just take Tribulus by itself, it wont do much, if anything at all.
I know I haven't posted here in awhile. The reason for this is people on this board will ask you a question, then they will challenge your answer, or even bash you. So my theory is if you know so much, why are you asking me?
My research, and knowledge if backed by 6200 hours of lab time, and tons and tons of research .not some internet B.S.I have my credentials, I have been both successful in business aswell as bodybuilding. So I have nothing to prove to anybody.
When I come on this board all I see is negative ,bitter , frustrated, and insecure guys, who feel the need to talk down to a person to make themselves feel better about themselves. I am not a negative person, there for I avoid negative things, and negative people.
I am not GH15,the guy knows alot more about anabolics then I Will probably ever know. I on the other hand am a chemist and I formulate supplements.So when it comes to supplements I know more then he Will probably ever know. We each have our own forte's.
GH 15 tells it like it is and keeps it real, when it comes to anabolics, and so-called natural bodybuilders. So he is a good person to have on this board. I am very surprised he still posts here, will all the negative people on here.He must have a very high tolerance or be very patient.
So there you have it I am not GH15, and I do not know who he is. god bless........John
Good to have you back John!!!
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then there is suckmuscle
STFU, drug dealer. You claim to be a pro bodybuilder and steroid expert, and yet you have provided no evidence whatosoever for your assertion. Now, I can't tell for sure whether you are a pro bodybuilder or not - although I'm 90% sure that you're a drug dealer -, but I do no for sure that you don't know shit about steroids. The fact that you claim that you have no technical knowledge and that all your knowledge is from experimenting explains some of the incredibly stupid things you say, like that insulin makes you lean - when it's the opposite -, and that testosterone was already in use medically in the 1930s. Your "knowledge" is the kind that could be given by any nobody gym rat who has done steroids for years, and it is worthless. The only reason why people even pay attention to what you say is because they believe that you're a pro, otherwise you'd receive the same attention that any steroid using gym rat receives when he tells about his drug experiences. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Are you currently competing or Have you,?
i only do one and only one single thing and it is professional bodybuilding
because everything i write is true because i have been there as a professional bodybuilder
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CSwole, thank you for the kind words.how is your training? keep on kickin ass
EL Guapo thank you aswell for your kind words. How is your training going? I hope life and training is going well.It is good to see there are some people on Getbig with some class........god bless .......John
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STFU, drug dealer. You claim to be a pro bodybuilder and steroid expert, and yet you have provided no evidence whatosoever for your assertion. Now, I can't tell for sure whether you are a pro bodybuilder or not - although I'm 90% sure that you're a drug dealer -, but I do no for sure that you don't know shit about steroids. The fact that you claim that you have no technical knowledge and that all your knowledge is from experimenting explains some of the incredibly stupid things you say, like that insulin makes you lean - when it's the opposite -, and that testosterone was already in use medically in the 1930s. Your "knowledge" is the kind that could be given by any nobody gym rat who has done steroids for years, and it is worthless. The only reason why people even pay attention to what you say is because they believe that you're a pro, otherwise you'd receive the same attention that any steroid using gym rat receives when he tells about his drug experiences. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
not even one proof you can give to me being professional or soap dealer or goverment agent that get you all one by one by entering into your community..
you have proof for nothing,,only thing you have serious proof for is your anger issues that makes you in need of good psycologist
every respnd to you its like respondig to 8 year old angry kid in elementry school that pick out boogers from his nose,,you remind me of that kid from simpsons ralf? ralfy? something like that
if you only knew what goes behind closed doors of the bodybuilding world,,competetive one,,your eyes would turn black blue red and purple,,in us you are completely out of your mind because around the world we keep it in order but in us you are simply as of 2007 drugs addicts ,,every athlete us athlete in particular as of 2007 is on drugs ,,you got no records that are done naturally and bodybuilders in usa are hormonized from their gym rat days
a gym rat in usa = a competetive bodybuilder and that is what you do not get!
no need to argue with you as i said youre wacked in the head
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youre wacked in the head
Lol.
That made my day.
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about 250lb too much bodyfat,,arms will be good after you lose weight,,rest of the body cant tell need to see more pictures
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Noted... "5 pounds hair." :D
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gh15 is definetly NOT american... and not because of the punctuation, spelling and syntax errors which very well could be intentional....
he is far to worldy and knowledgeable about other countries/world politics to be an ignorant porn-surfing football watching american male. nuff said.
Agreed. Add in the soccer facet. If he is a former pro, it can only be one. And no, it is not Roland C.
really huh
my endorsments will be finito,,no contracts anymore after that,,ifbb judges everytime they see me on stage will mark me and forget about placing well,,milos will have a contract on my life and send serbians after me,,and all that for getbig crowd to be happy,,,um dont think so but thanks for asking :)
Some of that might happen but most of it is delusions of grandeur :)
In light of all this I'll retract my earlier accusation.
gh15 is not George Best. He is Klaus Doering.
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STFU, drug dealer. You claim to be a pro bodybuilder and steroid expert, and yet you have provided no evidence whatosoever for your assertion. Now, I can't tell for sure whether you are a pro bodybuilder or not - although I'm 90% sure that you're a drug dealer -, but I do no for sure that you don't know shit about steroids. The fact that you claim that you have no technical knowledge and that all your knowledge is from experimenting explains some of the incredibly stupid things you say, like that insulin makes you lean - when it's the opposite -, and that testosterone was already in use medically in the 1930s. Your "knowledge" is the kind that could be given by any nobody gym rat who has done steroids for years, and it is worthless. The only reason why people even pay attention to what you say is because they believe that you're a pro, otherwise you'd receive the same attention that any steroid using gym rat receives when he tells about his drug experiences. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
hahahahah meltdown number 1176. ;D
forgot to take your "anti anger" pills, boy?