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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Natural Bodybuilding => Topic started by: Redwine on October 31, 2007, 10:22:13 AM
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can any1 tell me.. why peanut butter must be taken when you are on diets? many of em told me.. i should consume peanut butter tog wit my meals.. but i dont know why..
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probaly for extra fats, im assuming they are assuming your on a low carb diet and in change are increasing your healthy fats for the missing carb calories? possibility
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Tell ya what is actually good, mix 3/4 tsp peanut butter with a scoop of protein powder and add a touch of water to help mix. I ate that all the time if i needed a break from just a plain shake :), tastes great too ;D.
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It also helps to satisfy hunger while providing quality nutrients.
agreed bro it really helps satisfy hunger
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I have also heard it helps to slow digestion :)
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Stay away from wacky advice.
Peanut Butter is "allowed" in certain cases within reason, but definitely not "required".
If you're "dieting" and having more than one tablespoon of peanut butter a day, there's something seriously wrong.
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Stay away from wacky advice.
Peanut Butter is "allowed" in certain cases within reason, but definitely not "required".
If you're "dieting" and having more than one tablespoon of peanut butter a day, there's something seriously wrong.
Yeah very true, thats what i was saying here, as long as you are only having a touch i think its ok, just helps to kill the hunger pains in a fix ;).
mix 3/4 tsp peanut butter with a scoop of protein powder and add a touch of water to help mix.
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I use it to add some healthy fats, and it really helps quench cravings. Just dont take in too much of it......Tablespoon or two between meals.
I also use it to mix in with protien shakes and oatmeal, adds some much needed flavor.
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not to step on peoples toes here, because everyone is entitled to their opinions but
Peanut butter makes you fat! It really does. I dont see the need for it at all unless you are seriously eating low carbs, and are in great shape and way ahead of schedule.
i was eating a bit here and there to try to slow myself down, because i was way ahead of schedule. Or I eat it as a cheat. When you first start dieting and are trying to lose weight and get lean, avoid it! my opinion only guys, alex a
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neither of you guys are natural.
fats are completely useless for someone injecting testosterone into their bodies. for you guys...protein and carbs are all you should be intaking. and with any amount of significant carb intake, nobody should have high fat intake. BUT, fats are just a just as good source of energy calories as carbs are... and in a natural bodybuilder going high protein/high fat will be MUCH BETTER than going high protein/high carb. do you know why? because fats promote and are essential for TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION..., without fats in the diet...a natty bb'r wont have adequate levels of testpsterone... increasing fat intake will increase testosterone, which increases protein synthesis, decreases body fat, and the fat will decrease appetite.
but your right, eating fats means you cant eat carbs; and conversly..eating carbs means you cant eat fats...certain veggies like broccoli and cauliflower and green beans are okay for high fat diets, and certain fats like omega 3's and cla are okay for high carb... any release of insulin will cause the body to immidietly shut down fat utilization and thus start to store all of that ingested fat as adipose tissue untill the insulin levels go back down to NORMAL. so carbs and fats dont mix. but fats by themselves are much better than carbs by themselves. for a NATURAL, that is.
for a NATURAL bodybuilder... its best to eat a NATURAL diet for a NATURAL human being. (meat, eggs, veggies). for a SYNTHETIC bodybuilder...its best to to SYNTHETIC foods...because your a SYNTHETIC human being (fat free proteins and processed carbs like oatmeal and brown rice and wheat bread)
get it?
...go back to the juicing board where your knowledge is actually helpful. i have a question over there that no one is answering and id love for some competitors with knowledge on drugs to answer it.
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oh wow.. hah. Let's see your pics again..
There is no difference between a natural bodybuilder and a "SYNTHETIC human being" The body works the same..
Your brain needs carbs, maybe that's what's wrong with you.. I've been in the game a long time and I won't even get into how wrong you are. Not worth my time, so keep eating those fats and also keep posting those pics of yours..
the brain doesn't need carbs. thats ridiculous. go read a book, moron.and no the body doesnt work the same in somebody on the juice versus a natural body. in a natural...we need to optimize testosterone production through diet...in a juicing bodybuilder your body doesnt produce any testosterone no matter what you eat...your just injecting it straight in. eating fats will do nothing at all for your testosterone levels...so there would be absolutely no advantage to eating fats over carbs for a juicing bodybuilder.
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the brain doesn't need carbs. thats ridiculous. go read a book, moron.and no the body doesnt work the same in somebody on the juice versus a natural body. in a natural...we need to optimize testosterone production through diet...in a juicing bodybuilder your body doesnt produce any testosterone no matter what you eat...your just injecting it straight in. eating fats will do nothing at all for your testosterone levels...so there would be absolutely no advantage to eating fats over carbs for a juicing bodybuilder.
Wow, you really are not from this planet are you?
How would you know what a natural bodybuilder or a LOL, "syntentic person" needs anyway? Do you even know what Organic Chemistry is?? That is a subject you might want to look into.
Lots of guys have answered your post at the steroid board but you refuse to listen to anybody and just insult those that have tried to help you. You need to back off man, tone it down a bit or no one will help you again. Keep it simple man.
Synthetic person, wow... :-\
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the brain doesn't need carbs. thats ridiculous. go read a book, moron.and no the body doesnt work the same in somebody on the juice versus a natural body. in a natural...we need to optimize testosterone production through diet...in a juicing bodybuilder your body doesnt produce any testosterone no matter what you eat...your just injecting it straight in. eating fats will do nothing at all for your testosterone levels...so there would be absolutely no advantage to eating fats over carbs for a juicing bodybuilder.
Mr. Jizz Load, you are showing yourself to be one card short of a full deck. Seriously, I worry about you. Are you medicated? Do you really believe you know all the things you seem to claim you do? :o
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Mr. Jizz Load, you are showing yourself to be one card short of a full deck. Seriously, I worry about you. Are you medicated? Do you really believe you know all the things you seem to claim you do? :o
well in this case....yes...i do know all that i claim.
i simply am 100% correct on this point(in this thread).
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well in this case....yes...i do know all that i claim.
i simply am 100% correct on this point(in this thread).
I'm sure you've said you're a college student before, but I guess I must be low on fats or carbs or whatever so just remind me. What year of med school are you in again?
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for ur cns to function properly, u need no less than 60g carbs per day.
hope this helps.
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for ur cns to function properly, u need no less than 60g carbs per day.
hope this helps.
no thats incorrect. your a jackass.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMM ;D
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:)
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no thats incorrect. your a jackass.
And you are an illiterate, uneducated buffoon.
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And you are an illiterate, uneducated buffoon.
Are you referring to candi as this, Trap?
Buffoon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The term Buffoon is used to define someone who provides amusement through inappropriate appearance and/or behavior. Strictly, a buffoon describes a "ridiculous, but nevertheless amusing person." In the broad terms, a buffoon is a clownish, publicly amusing person, such as a court jester. In the more modern sense, the term is frequently used in a derogatory sense to describe someone considered a public fool, or someone whose inappropriately vulgar, bumbling, or ridiculous behavior is a source of general amusement.
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Are you referring to candi as this, Trap?
Buffoon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The term Buffoon is used to define someone who provides amusement through inappropriate appearance and/or behavior. Strictly, a buffoon describes a "ridiculous, but nevertheless amusing person." In the broad terms, a buffoon is a clownish, publicly amusing person, such as a court jester. In the more modern sense, the term is frequently used in a derogatory sense to describe someone considered a public fool, or someone whose inappropriately vulgar, bumbling, or ridiculous behavior is a source of general amusement.
Indeed I am, incorporating all the ambiguity of the word. Seriously, Canned Jizz Load claims to be a straight A college student, yet cannot string an English sentence together without brutally maiming the language. White Trash Supreme. ::)
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:)
Yes, you look much better but even at 3% bodyfat you would still be illiterate white trash of the highest caliber.
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you obviously know what your doing armz. can you give us a sample diet
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Keep thinking the way you do.. You'll look like shit as always..
PS... The brain needs carbs.. AND I've been clean for 3 years now.. Body still acts the same, you Flex magazine reading idiot..
the brain does not need carbs. YOU are the idiot. and flex magazine is for fags...
im an MD reader. :)
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hows this for a diet?
Meal 1: 3 whole eggs + 6 egg whites, 1/2 cup oats
Meal 2: 50g whey protein, 2 tbsp all natural peanut butter
Meal 3: 8 oz chicken, small sweet potato, 1/3 cup almonds
Meal 4: 50g whey protein, 2 tbsp all natural peanut butter
Meal 5: 8 oz salmon or lean beef, small sweet potato, and 2 cups green veggies with 1 tbsp xtra virgin olive oil.
Meal 6: 50g whey protein, 2 tbsp all natural peanut butter
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the brain does not need carbs. YOU are the idiot. and flex magazine is for fags...
im an MD reader. :)
The next time im interested in getting shredded for a show, i will look you up for some nutritional advise! sorry for giving my very polite explaination on why I think you dont need the added fats. Maybe I should start calling people names and talking tough!
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The next time im interested in getting shredded for a show, i will look you up for some nutritional advise! sorry for giving my very polite explaination on why I think you dont need the added fats. Maybe I should start calling people names and talking tough!
maybe you should....seems to me like you need to learn how to time your peak...you must have thought your last contest was three weeks earlier than it actually was? :D
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maybe you should....seems to me like you need to learn how to time your peak...you must have thought your last contest was three weeks earlier than it actually was? :D
Go ahead, post up your pics from your last show buddy and lets see if you hit your peak!
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Go ahead, post up your pics from your last show buddy and lets see if you hit your peak!
:D
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Thanks Squadfather! enough said.
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I'll try your fat diet next time..
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yes that is what i loooked like BEFORE using my diet..
...this is what i look like now=
BOOOOMMMM
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brutal 12 inch arms, acne scarred face and 7 dollar Great Clips haircut.
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great clips...hahaa
BOOOOMM
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BOOM What? are you impressive?
bro, i will leave it right here with you, but if anything , you owe me an apology...
Im nice as can fuckin be about my opinions and you talk shit.
Like I would go to you for advise? Like anyone would? Have you ever walked on stage? You have nerve to talk about me miss timing things, what a joke!
We can take this to the main board. I will post my shots and you can post yours and lets see who people go to for advise.
You can post some full body shots including, back, legs, hams, calves.
Like i said, its best if we leave it right here. Alex a P.S BOOM ! This !!!!
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no man...im not impressive at all compared to you. i never said that i was.
i would readily admit to anyone that they look better than me; if they truly do.
i know who i am and am not insecure about my body or delusional either. (like fatboy squadfather who thinks hes carrying 20-40 more lbs of muscle than he actually is).
i wont apologize for contradicting you, dude...my advice is right on..you definitely need fats for the production and maintanence of testosterone. in fact..i just learned the other day that even guys on steroids need SOME fats in order to have optimal t- levels.
but iw ill aplogize for issing you about your conditioning...hahaha..i t was a pretty far fetched insult since you had fucking amazing conditioning even though you did lose a little bit of definition from those 3 weeks out pics... my bad bro; you hadnt insulted me personally at all and i crossed the line. i know you work exceptionally hard at dieting and cardio and you must work out pretty hard to get that level of musculature.
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no man...im not impressive at all compared to you. i never said that i was.
i would readily admit to anyone that they look better than me; if they truly do.
i know who i am and am not insecure about my body or delusional either. (like fatboy squadfather who thinks hes carrying 20-40 more lbs of muscle than he actually is).
i wont apologize for contradicting you, dude...my advice is right on..you definitely need fats for the production and maintanence of testosterone. in fact..i just learned the other day that even guys on steroids need SOME fats in order to have optimal t- levels.
but iw ill aplogize for issing you about your conditioning...hahaha..i t was a pretty far fetched insult since you had fucking amazing conditioning even though you did lose a little bit of definition from those 3 weeks out pics... my bad bro; you hadnt insulted me personally at all and i crossed the line. i know you work exceptionally hard at dieting and cardio and you must work out pretty hard to get that level of musculature.
High level of maturity displayed right here. What am I to say. I wish you and the squadfather would mend things. Squad is actually a really good guy but you came off to him as arrogant, he snapped back and here we are. Squad has always stood up for me, so I have his back.
Im gonna say this.
Candizzle, you have squared up with me, all i wanted was an apology for you ragging on me for miss timing my prep. And you did that!
Shit happens, and i will be first to realize i did not hit it the day of my show. But I did have a great prep, got in kick ass shape and have nailed it on the mark( these are pics from my class win at the USA the year before).
Squad has been around the block a time or two and surely doesnt want to hear about your knowledge of diet etc. And you dont want to hear from him either, im sure. So lets just squash it at that. We all go our ways! peace to everyone!
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alex i was just wondering if you could give me a rundown of your diet or help me with mine. currently im doing the keto and haven't seen that much. its been almost 5 weeks and Ive lost weight but not alot of b/f. I'm open to try anything the only reason i was doing the keto is because of evan centopani gave me a good structured outline but I'm starting to think its more for guys on gear. heres a link to my bodyspace if u want to see what i look like. thanks
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/lilwoday/
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Personally I would shit can that diet! just my opinion, others feel different.
See my pics bro, im on four hundred grams of carbs each and every day. I dont rotate them or cut them out. This is on my contest prep. I blieve in high carbs low fat, i dont add fats to my diet at all. you get plenty from the meat in your foods, ie steak and even chick and fish.
My diet really works well for me as i have no problems getting in really ripped shape. Feel free to ask me any other questions.
I just dont konw how people do those low carb diets! they suck and are miserable, just my opinon though alex a
But they seem to work for many, the key is can you do it forever? i dont think so, but a moderate to high carb diet, you can.
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well i used to be a chunky kid. then i got into wrestling in like 7th grade and lost lots of weight. got real competitive and starved and did all the wrong things to make weight. i was real lean then. after a broken arm that ended my college Carrier i got into weights and went from 170-205 currently. i added allot of muscle but def not all. in my wrestling days i ate what ever i wanted sun-wed. then starved thur, fri, to make weight. after that ended i got into good nutrition no fast food, soda, any of that shit, lots of chicken, eggs, oats, sweet potatoes, spinach, tuna, etc. however its how to put them together i dont know how to do. i feel i have a slow metabolism and store fat in the waist while my legs etc remain lean. I'm wondering if you have a natural lean body cuz i dnt thnk we cld relate. thanks
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keto diets are misleading.. ketosis should be the by product of a good diet. not the goal of a diet. and alot of ketosis diets sky rocket your fat intake...this is completely unneccessary. yes you definitely NEED fats. but not 70 % of daily caloric intake like some of these diets say. the fact is that ketosis will develop with out any dietary fat intake at all. its a state that is influenced by the amount of available glucose in the blood stream, not the amoount of fatty acids. the reason you want to keep dietary fats a little bit elevated is to keep your rate of fat metabolism, and all of the coinciding metabolic enzymes and factors, very high. if you cut out fats...all of your fat utilizing enzymes and molecules will be downgraded...and your rate of fat turnover will be much lower. so by keeping a mild fat intake..or better yet, cycling your fats while keeping cvarbs to an aboslute minimum, you are keping a high rate of fat metabolism, a low amount of fatty acids present in the bloodstream, and a state of being where you have to operate on fatty acids(no glucose). so you burn a hell of alot of stored body fat!
dietary fat on a zero carb diet should be kept to a couple hundred calories about twice, or maybe three tiems a day. and keep protein sky-rocketed.
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Personally I would shit can that diet! just my opinion, others feel different.
See my pics bro, im on four hundred grams of carbs each and every day. I dont rotate them or cut them out. This is on my contest prep. I blieve in high carbs low fat, i dont add fats to my diet at all. you get plenty from the meat in your foods, ie steak and even chick and fish.
My diet really works well for me as i have no problems getting in really ripped shape. Feel free to ask me any other questions.
I just dont konw how people do those low carb diets! they suck and are miserable, just my opinon though alex a
But they seem to work for many, the key is can you do it forever? i dont think so, but a moderate to high carb diet, you can.
How much cardio do you do when prepping for a show? Lets say 12 weeks out. What kind of training split? How many meals a day? Thanks Double A.
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How much cardio do you do when prepping for a show? Lets say 12 weeks out. What kind of training split? How many meals a day? Thanks Double A.
Lets see, at 12 weeks out, im doing 30 minutes. I increas it by five minutes the next month when im 8 weeks out, and at four I increase it another 5 minutes. So Im doing 40 minutes, but this year, right at the end i added another 5 minutes.
At about 3 weeks out, i was in great shape and should have held the cardio right there, but I added another five minutes because I was still 7 lbs above the weight limit.
That was a mistake, because I was conditioned enough right there and should not have dropped down. So, 40 minutes is what I should have been doing right up to the show, but i was doing 45.
I train with weights 5 days a week off and during prep all the way to the show. I do cardio usually after the weights.
Im eating six meals per day. I could have and probably should have thrown in another protein meal right before bed, the last 2 weeks because my metabolism was going crazy. I felt really good, strong etc, but really hungry too. I should have fed myself more, but the weight class issue. Bodybuilding competition is a live and learn experience, very few nail it every single time.
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Lets see, at 12 weeks out, im doing 30 minutes. I increas it by five minutes the next month when im 8 weeks out, and at four I increase it another 5 minutes. So Im doing 40 minutes, but this year, right at the end i added another 5 minutes.
At about 3 weeks out, i was in great shape and should have held the cardio right there, but I added another five minutes because I was still 7 lbs above the weight limit.
That was a mistake, because I was conditioned enough right there and should not have dropped down. So, 40 minutes is what I should have been doing right up to the show, but i was doing 45.
I train with weights 5 days a week off and during prep all the way to the show. I do cardio usually after the weights.
Im eating six meals per day. I could have and probably should have thrown in another protein meal right before bed, the last 2 weeks because my metabolism was going crazy. I felt really good, strong etc, but really hungry too. I should have fed myself more, but the weight class issue. Bodybuilding competition is a live and learn experience, very few nail it every single time.
Sounds like it is time to go up a class! I saw you at the LA when you won the lightweight and you could easily be a middle bro or are you shooting for welter? Either way, you might be outgrowing your weight class. Yeah, it is always nice to be at the top of the class but go in where you fall, you have enough conditioning and size to hold your own bro even if you are out weighed by a few pounds.
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Sounds like it is time to go up a class! I saw you at the LA when you won the lightweight and you could easily be a middle bro or are you shooting for welter? Either way, you might be outgrowing your weight class. Yeah, it is always nice to be at the top of the class but go in where you fall, you have enough conditioning and size to hold your own bro even if you are out weighed by a few pounds.
Thanks bro, im going to be a welter for sure at the nationals. Thanks for your opinion, you are right. I have been holding back a while now. In 2006 i won the welter weight class at the LA one week before the USA and I weighed 158lbs. I had a good season and had to put on a few pounds. Came way down at the nationals. My best weight is around 163lbs puts me in the welter class and soon to be middles. Im very short so i dont have to be top of the class. I just want to be top conditioned. Keep in touch. alex a