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I have heard several opinions on this and now looking for your. I have run a couple cycles and have never had this problem but a friend of mine told me he once pinned himself and hit a vein. He said he felt like he was dying, had trouble breathing, lots of coughing and so on. He told me this lasted almost an hour before he felt normal again. Now everyone should know to asperate when injecting but obviously my friend was not so intelligent. For an update he now does!!! MY question is has anyone else done this and how did you feel when it happened? My buddy still says its possible to get alittle blood and not be in a vein. How do you tell the difference? I always shoot in my delts but would like to try my ass although I find it hard to turn that far, so I am now afraid to hit a vein being that I wont be able to asperate and see as well as i do in my delt.
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what size needle was you or your buddy using.
its happens but I think its only happen to me once
never have a problem in my delts or glute
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He was shooting in his delt with a 1in 23g
P.S. Honestly it wasnt me but I do admit it kinda scares me. lol
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well they say u should aspirate, but ive yet to aspirate and not draw blood so i guess its mostly a chance thing
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Always aspirate!! Dont want to swell a vein, no no....
I have drawn blood once, pulled out, reinjected and voila.
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i dont aspirate with glute shots,, bein doing them for years and know my body and what feels right and what doesnt,,, i have clipped vessels before elsewhere and you know as soon as u do it.. no big deal, squirt the blood out and start again on a fresh site
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Pull back. Blood will flow in very freely if in a vein. You seen them drawl blood, right? Well it fills nicely if in
a vessle.
Its also possible to clip one and pull blood, Thats why I pull back S L O W, and stop before it mixes in the barrle with the oil ;)
Change out a pin, hit a new spot.
His friend was likly feelling adrenaline from fear more than anything else.
But Oil aint meant to go IV.
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i had a very scary inject a few months ago in my delt. everything was fine, pin went in smooth, no blood when i pulled back, etc. so i was injecting 3cc of tren and test, when i got almost to the end with just under a cc left to go i felt an intense burning sensation up my arm and neck, i honestly felt like i was on fire. i pulled the needle out and almost passed out when i stood up, my entire body was weak and i thought i was about to die, my arm and neck was blood red from some kind of reaction. my arm and neck was burning so badly i was putting water all over it just because i was freaking out that badly. after about 5 minutes it went away and i felt weak as shit and disoriented for about 1 hour. the redness on my arm and neck lasted 30 minutes.
i have no idea what happen but my doc told me i injected into a vein. scary shit, i've been injecting in that area for over 5 years and never had this happen.
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Ive done delts lots, never a problem except once I pulled out and the blood litterly squirted.
I didnt freak and even managed not to make much mess.
I was calm because I allways pull back and knew I didnt have anything to fear.
Simply busted a vein on the way in.
Ive had pressure type build up fire off nerves on 3cc shots a couple times. It feels electric. Press slow is the trick I think.
I think fear is what gets most guys, not a actual IV inject. Unknown Fear can freeze you up worse than actual threat, and put you down harder than a punch.
Ive seen guys drop at the sight of a little of their own blood, chicks are often tougher in that regard.
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I have heard several opinions on this and now looking for your. I have run a couple cycles and have never had this problem but a friend of mine told me he once pinned himself and hit a vein. He said he felt like he was dying, had trouble breathing, lots of coughing and so on. He told me this lasted almost an hour before he felt normal again. Now everyone should know to asperate when injecting but obviously my friend was not so intelligent. For an update he now does!!! MY question is has anyone else done this and how did you feel when it happened? My buddy still says its possible to get alittle blood and not be in a vein. How do you tell the difference? I always shoot in my delts but would like to try my ass although I find it hard to turn that far, so I am now afraid to hit a vein being that I wont be able to asperate and see as well as i do in my delt.
What was he injecting, I know when I inject Tren i have trouble breathing after my shot, and to be honest it doesn't matter where I inject.
If you cannot reach the glutes, have you tried the quads? Many swear by it, to be honest I have never done it though. Delts and glutes is as far as I go. To be honest a little freaked out about the quad thing.
Does anyone still have that link for proper injection spots on each body part. I know someone posted it awhile back.
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Quads are my favorite by far!!
No pain, ease in and out, can see what you are doing ;) thumbs up!
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i feel like its impossible to aspirate if your shootinf your delt or ass because you need two hands. i just shot my right shoulder and once i got the pin in i used the wall to push on my left elbow so i could reach across better and push the plunger i dont know why i never thought of it before but now ill do it everytime..just thought id share
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i feel like its impossible to aspirate if your shootinf your delt or ass because you need two hands. i just shot my right shoulder and once i got the pin in i used the wall to push on my left elbow so i could reach across better and push the plunger i dont know why i never thought of it before but now ill do it everytime..just thought id share
Thought I was the only freak who did this....nice to know I'm not alone
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haha guess not works pretty good i dont kno why i didnt think of it before
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Ive done that wall trick too with 25ga.
Its hard for me to pull back on delt shots, but I can.
I like to shoot sideways in hip (Glute Medius, ventrogluteal) best, very easy shot to see and aspirate.
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I have heard several opinions on this and now looking for your. I have run a couple cycles and have never had this problem but a friend of mine told me he once pinned himself and hit a vein. He said he felt like he was dying, had trouble breathing, lots of coughing and so on. He told me this lasted almost an hour before he felt normal again. Now everyone should know to asperate when injecting but obviously my friend was not so intelligent. For an update he now does!!! MY question is has anyone else done this and how did you feel when it happened? My buddy still says its possible to get alittle blood and not be in a vein. How do you tell the difference? I always shoot in my delts but would like to try my ass although I find it hard to turn that far, so I am now afraid to hit a vein being that I wont be able to asperate and see as well as i do in my delt.
Pinning the delts only is a poor idea. The glutes are your best choice and very east to hit, your actually hitting more your hip anyhow. The reason the glutes are a good choice is also because it is a large muscle and can handle the bolus dose of oil well and allow it to be absorbed properly. Quads and lats would also be good choices, never tried lats though. Quads too often for me leads to knots and swelling, and forget putting something like prop or Winny in there IME.
Assperate, it is the smart thing to do. You can do it with one hand all you need is a very slight pull back because like others have said if in a vein it will fill VERY easy. Once you have the pin in and asperate hold it steady, do not let it move in and out, this motion could allow the pin to move back into a vein you may have passed through on the way in.
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http://www.siteinjections.com/
Here is the link for injection areas
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i feel like its impossible to aspirate if your shootinf your delt or ass because you need two hands. i just shot my right shoulder and once i got the pin in i used the wall to push on my left elbow so i could reach across better and push the plunger i dont know why i never thought of it before but now ill do it everytime..just thought id share
I've never had a problem with delts but i have very large hands.
i can aspirate and inject with one hand.
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i love these quad shots dont hurt guys,,, ive tried a few times and ive been in agony for 4 or 5 days, like youve been stabbed in the leg.
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i love these quad shots dont hurt guys,,, ive tried a few times and ive been in agony for 4 or 5 days, like youve been stabbed in the leg.
LOL yeah same here, sometimes they go fine but all too often they go bad. I have had them swell so bad I had a hard time walking. I will risk it once in a while and never in my left leg cause for some reason that thing always gets f'd up when I shoot it.
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I read on here once shooting in you eyeball was nice. lol j/k ;D
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i want to try this side of the glute deal cause when reaching behind sometimes ill cramp up even if i stretch before and everything
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i love these quad shots dont hurt guys,,, ive tried a few times and ive been in agony for 4 or 5 days, like youve been stabbed in the leg.
Dont know what to tell you bro...it does hurt sometimes, depends on the compound. T400 tore me up no matter where I shot. I have had the knot sometimes but it works for me better than any other bodypart!
Quads, ass, delts is my rotation....someday will do the Rim Pec Shot!!
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i want to try this side of the glute deal cause when reaching behind sometimes ill cramp up even if i stretch before and everything
I go in dead sideways, in the hip.
Check out a nursing text for illustrations. Ventrogluteal.
Big meaty site.
Way easier that reach around back of ass.
I raise one leg off floor,
Stand like gonna drawl a handgun from hip holster, turn hand so thumb points to hip, poke around and find the middle of the biggest meaty part there, I go in slow. NEVER a blood or nerve issue. Little pain.
Even a small guy can take 3-4cc there.
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i had a very scary inject a few months ago in my delt. everything was fine, pin went in smooth, no blood when i pulled back, etc. so i was injecting 3cc of tren and test, when i got almost to the end with just under a cc left to go i felt an intense burning sensation up my arm and neck, i honestly felt like i was on fire. i pulled the needle out and almost passed out when i stood up, my entire body was weak and i thought i was about to die, my arm and neck was blood red from some kind of reaction. my arm and neck was burning so badly i was putting water all over it just because i was freaking out that badly. after about 5 minutes it went away and i felt weak as shit and disoriented for about 1 hour. the redness on my arm and neck lasted 30 minutes.
i have no idea what happen but my doc told me i injected into a vein. scary shit, i've been injecting in that area for over 5 years and never had this happen.
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You hit a nerve.
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http://www.nursingandmidwifery.soton.ac.uk/practice/LessonPlans/year2/VentroglutealSite.pdf
How to give a ventrogluteal IM injection
Never heard of this either but i'm gonna give it a shot or two to try it out.
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Best and biggest shot in the book.
Hit a 1/2 price used book store or resale type outlet and find: Nursing texts, Physicians desk Reference, a Medical dictionary,
Merck Manual. All full of great info guys are asking about here allways.
Just go in sideway instead of in back. Flex your ass and watch the big side part, thats it.
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I always shoot in my delts but would like to try my ass although I find it hard to turn that far, so I am now afraid to hit a vein being that I wont be able to asperate and see as well as i do in my delt.
Try the ventrogluteal site. It's MUCH easier and very safe. You can bury a 1 1/2 inch needle and never touch anything but muscle and it will take up to 5cc's if needed.
Let me see if I can explain where it is. If you are wearing a pair of jeans and follow the line of the front pocket to where it touches the seam that runs down the side of the leg, it is directly underneath there.
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Ive done delts lots, never a problem except once I pulled out and the blood litterly squirted.
I didnt freak and even managed not to make much mess.
I was calm because I allways pull back and knew I didnt have anything to fear.
Simply busted a vein on the way in.
Or out. I've done the same thing. Knicked a vein pulling out and blood squirted a good 6 feet.
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i love these quad shots dont hurt guys,,, ive tried a few times and ive been in agony for 4 or 5 days, like youve been stabbed in the leg.
I have the same problem. I can't inject in the quads without walking with a limp for the next week.
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I frequently shoot in my jaw muscles. You can't miss. I also use an 18gauge needle mounted on a 25cc plunger with no regrets...
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I frequently shoot in my jaw muscles. You can't miss. I also use an 18gauge needle mounted on a 25cc plunger with no regrets...
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I thought so, how much Prop & Stan should I mix inthe pump & poser to look like Brando ???
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I thought so, how much Prop & Stan should I mix inthe pump & poser to look like Brando ???
Brutal desire to alter your body...
do you really hate yourself that much? ;D
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Brutal desire to alter your body...
do you really hate yourself that much? ;D
Beauty and Freedom are in the mind of the beholder.
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Beauty and Freedom are in the mind of the beholder.
Beauty yes. Freedom not. It's in your heart.
Especially if you're American ;D.
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I go in dead sideways, in the hip.
Check out a nursing text for illustrations. Ventrogluteal.
Big meaty site.
Way easier that reach around back of ass.
I raise one leg off floor,
Stand like gonna drawl a handgun from hip holster, turn hand so thumb points to hip, poke around and find the middle of the biggest meaty part there, I go in slow. NEVER a blood or nerve issue. Little pain.
Even a small guy can take 3-4cc there.
I agree greaet place to shoot. Shot a ton of tren there, but then one day shot seom t400 there and fuck it got hard to walk.
I dunno how anyone is bashing quad shots. peronally i hate shoulder shots, they hurt me, but i can take a ton in my quads, plus they're right in front of you so they're easy as fuck.
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i think the hip shots are the easiest. i did the same thing trab did, lift one leg up on my coffee table and inject dead sideways. 3cc is nothing for this area.
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http://www.siteinjections.com/
Here is the link for injection areas
Thanks bro, lost it, had it along time ago.
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i think the hip shots are the easiest. i did the same thing trab did, lift one leg up on my coffee table and inject dead sideways. 3cc is nothing for this area.
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Hey man, how do you avoid bones and such in that area? The Vetri Glute you are talking about, right?
I saw a nurse reference write up on where to shoot but looked as if you had to be head on to hit the right area?? I was too chicken shit to try but sounds perfect!
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Hey man, how do you avoid bones and such in that area? The Vetri Glute you are talking about, right?
I saw a nurse reference write up on where to shoot but looked as if you had to be head on to hit the right area?? I was too chicken shit to try but sounds perfect!
Naw, its a giant spot, even on small dude.
Stand sideway to the miror and do a up on the toes quad flex pose. Flex and relax ass several times and watch where the biggest meaty part heaps up. Its part of the medius. The muscle that when developed looks SO lovely on a chick bent over Doggey. It sticks out on the sides. God put them there as grab rails I think.
It, and right below that area is a pocket like dimple when relaxed.
That be it.
The above link to the PDF medical link is perfect. But THe hand/finger gauge trick dont work for do it your self shots.
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Hey man, how do you avoid bones and such in that area? The Vetri Glute you are talking about, right?
I saw a nurse reference write up on where to shoot but looked as if you had to be head on to hit the right area?? I was too chicken shit to try but sounds perfect!
Try the ventrogluteal site. It's MUCH easier and very safe. You can bury a 1 1/2 inch needle and never touch anything but muscle and it will take up to 5cc's if needed.
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Hey man, how do you avoid bones and such in that area? The Vetri Glute you are talking about, right?
I saw a nurse reference write up on where to shoot but looked as if you had to be head on to hit the right area?? I was too chicken shit to try but sounds perfect!
You might be thinking to high. the area i shoot is in line with the hip joint. i've stuck a 1.5 inch needle deep in there with no problems. i can see the area very easily due to low bodyfat %.
when you lift your leg you should see the muscle move like a small lump, it's not small by any means.
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Its below and attached to the medius. Then when your relaxed its almost a circular dish area, flex and it
contracts up to form that little muscle higher on the hip.
Right where a handgun holster would ride is my best description.
Put yur hand just like ya were gonna drawl, but move it towards your rear a bit.
I dont think I'd hit bone with a 2" needle there.
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Its below and attached to the medius. Then when your relaxed its almost a circular dish area, flex and it
contracts up to form that little muscle higher on the hip.
Right where a handgun holster would ride is my best description.
Put yur hand just like ya were gonna drawl, but move it towards your rear a bit.
I dont think I'd hit bone with a 2" needle there.
That gives me a better picture. Because on the nurse sites, it looks as if you can only hit it from the side. Will try next cycle as everything I have read and from all of your guys' experience, is a great site!
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That gives me a better picture. Because on the nurse sites, it looks as if you can only hit it from the side. Will try next cycle as everything I have read and from all of your guys' experience, is a great site!
You are going in sideways. Its a deep spot, and Ive NEVER hit a nerve, pulled blood etc. And it just goes in like butter compared to around back. SO much easier to see and reach. The Most Painless site Ive used.
No walking problems really.
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wow....never even heardof that injection site....could be I've found a new home....I have to see it done though....Also, I have never aspirated a needle in 6 years and don't think I have ever hit a vein.....Hey, you learn something new everyday.....thanks bro's....
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wow....never even heardof that injection site....could be I've found a new home....I have to see it done though....Also, I have never aspirated a needle in 6 years and don't think I have ever hit a vein.....Hey, you learn something new everyday.....thanks bro's....
Pull back on that plunger, I pull slow so I can stop before any blood might mix with the oil.
I can stop it with blood just in the needle hub.
Ive only pulled back blood about 4 or 5 times, and it was prolly not in a vein.
Easy than to just change on a new needle and hit a new spot.
I allways wash up a couple spots with hot soap and water prior to a shot, just in case I start a bad shot and need change spots.
Washing with Hot water and soap first go a long way to prevent infections.
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lol ffs someone who does this just take a picture of your self doing it and post its much easier lol
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lol ffs someone who does this just take a picture of your self doing it and post its much easier lol
What, You dont want me to post Pixs of my ass ???
I cant bear to think of SquadMofo jacking off looking at them.... ;D