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Title: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2007, 10:01:33 AM
PC run amuck again.  ::)

Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Thursday, November 15, 2007

By Janet Fyfe-Yeomans and Amanda Grant

SYDNEY, Australia —  He is an unlikely revolutionary, but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.

He is having the last laugh on political correctness — and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney, Australia, are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favor of "ha, ha, ha."

Recruitment firm Westaff — which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country — has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.

Two Santa hopefuls reportedly quit the course because of the hullabaloo of the ho, ho, ho.

One would-be Santa has told The Daily Telegraph he was taught not to use "ho, ho, ho" because it was too close to the American slang for prostitute. He also quit.

"Gimme a break," said Julie Gale, who runs a campaign against sexualizing children called Kids Free 2B Kids. "We are talking about little kids who do not understand that 'ho, ho, ho' has any other connotation, and nor should they."

"Leave Santa alone," she added.

Australian Childhood Foundation chief executive officer Dr. Joe Tucci said it was the latest example of political correctness gone mad.

"There is no stronger tradition for children than Santa's ho, ho, ho," Tucci said.

On Wednesday, Australian department-store chains David Jones and Myer as well as the Westfield shopping center chain moved to reassure children, and their parents, that Santa and his customary greeting was part of Christmas's present as well as Christmas's past.

A David Jones spokeswoman said they had discussed the situation with Westaff and that their Santas would not be silenced.

"Senior management have assured us that Santas provided to David Jones have not been censored in any way," the spokeswoman said.

At Myer, where Westaff also train the fat men in red suits, Santa could not stop laughing about the suggestion.

"Myer has not directed our Santas to refrain from using 'ho, ho, ho' and believe the expression is an important Christmas tradition," a spokesman for Myer said.

Westfield's Santas are recruited and trained by RegProm Marketing and they will be "ho, ho, ho-ing," a Westfield spokeswoman said.

"Westfield Santas are known for their friendly and welcoming nature and know how to deliver a real festive 'ho, ho, ho.'"

Sydney mother Maybel Lopez said she wanted her daughter Andria, 5, to grow up hearing Santa's "ho, ho, ho" just as she had, and she did not realize the phrase had other connotations.

"It's what Santa has been saying his whole life — my whole life. It is just a normal thing, really, for him to say 'ho, ho, ho,'" said Lopez.

Westaff's national Santa co-ordinator Sari Hegarty wrote to stores explaining the company's position.

"Westaff has been a provider of quality caring Santas for over 40 years," Hegarty wrote in an e-mail.

"Part of our advice to our Santas is that they should be mindful of children having their first Santa experience," she added. "We ask our Santas to try techniques such as lowering their tone of voice and using 'ha, ha, ha' to encourage the children to come forward and meet Santa. We wish you and your family a very merry Christmas."

Westaff national operations manager Greg Jansz said it was "misleading" to say the company had banned Santa's traditional greeting and it was being left up to the discretion of Santa himself.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311797,00.html
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: Colossus_500 on November 15, 2007, 10:55:18 AM
PC run amuck again.  ::)

Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Thursday, November 15, 2007

By Janet Fyfe-Yeomans and Amanda Grant

SYDNEY, Australia —  He is an unlikely revolutionary, but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.

He is having the last laugh on political correctness — and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney, Australia, are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favor of "ha, ha, ha."

Recruitment firm Westaff — which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country — has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.

Two Santa hopefuls reportedly quit the course because of the hullabaloo of the ho, ho, ho.

One would-be Santa has told The Daily Telegraph he was taught not to use "ho, ho, ho" because it was too close to the American slang for prostitute. He also quit.

"Gimme a break," said Julie Gale, who runs a campaign against sexualizing children called Kids Free 2B Kids. "We are talking about little kids who do not understand that 'ho, ho, ho' has any other connotation, and nor should they."

"Leave Santa alone," she added.

Australian Childhood Foundation chief executive officer Dr. Joe Tucci said it was the latest example of political correctness gone mad.

"There is no stronger tradition for children than Santa's ho, ho, ho," Tucci said.

On Wednesday, Australian department-store chains David Jones and Myer as well as the Westfield shopping center chain moved to reassure children, and their parents, that Santa and his customary greeting was part of Christmas's present as well as Christmas's past.

A David Jones spokeswoman said they had discussed the situation with Westaff and that their Santas would not be silenced.

"Senior management have assured us that Santas provided to David Jones have not been censored in any way," the spokeswoman said.

At Myer, where Westaff also train the fat men in red suits, Santa could not stop laughing about the suggestion.

"Myer has not directed our Santas to refrain from using 'ho, ho, ho' and believe the expression is an important Christmas tradition," a spokesman for Myer said.

Westfield's Santas are recruited and trained by RegProm Marketing and they will be "ho, ho, ho-ing," a Westfield spokeswoman said.

"Westfield Santas are known for their friendly and welcoming nature and know how to deliver a real festive 'ho, ho, ho.'"

Sydney mother Maybel Lopez said she wanted her daughter Andria, 5, to grow up hearing Santa's "ho, ho, ho" just as she had, and she did not realize the phrase had other connotations.

"It's what Santa has been saying his whole life — my whole life. It is just a normal thing, really, for him to say 'ho, ho, ho,'" said Lopez.

Westaff's national Santa co-ordinator Sari Hegarty wrote to stores explaining the company's position.

"Westaff has been a provider of quality caring Santas for over 40 years," Hegarty wrote in an e-mail.

"Part of our advice to our Santas is that they should be mindful of children having their first Santa experience," she added. "We ask our Santas to try techniques such as lowering their tone of voice and using 'ha, ha, ha' to encourage the children to come forward and meet Santa. We wish you and your family a very merry Christmas."

Westaff national operations manager Greg Jansz said it was "misleading" to say the company had banned Santa's traditional greeting and it was being left up to the discretion of Santa himself.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311797,00.html
I saw this earlier this morning.  Good grief. So, they're assuming that 5-6 yr-olds know what a "HO" is?   ::)

This is what we've come to, bro.  And I betcha this thread will get more hits and replies than the thread about the politician who called one of her helpers "Buckwheat". 
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: Camel Jockey on November 15, 2007, 02:33:56 PM
Australia is gay.
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: gcb on November 15, 2007, 04:45:15 PM
No one really uses the word 'Ho' here to refer to women. If we stop importing US TV and music Santa doesn't have to change.
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: kh300 on November 15, 2007, 05:42:17 PM
i guess construction workers shouldnt be allowed to use back hoes either. 

it has nothing to do with 'ho'.. its just another way to fade out christmas. im surprised the aclu didnt think of this first
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: Cap on November 15, 2007, 05:55:20 PM
No one really uses the word 'Ho' here to refer to women. If we stop importing US TV and music Santa doesn't have to change.
Not sure where you live or where you've been but men do use that term often.  Then again probably pretty dull in the Ozarks.
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2007, 06:34:21 PM
I know a woman with the last name Ho (really).  Her friend sometimes greets her by saying "Hey Ho."  I think my tummy started to hurt I was laughing so hard the first time I heard it.  I have to fight the urge to say it whenever I see her.   :)
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: gcb on November 15, 2007, 07:20:35 PM
i guess construction workers shouldnt be allowed to use back hoes either. 

it has nothing to do with 'ho'.. its just another way to fade out christmas. im surprised the aclu didnt think of this first

No ACLU in Australia - that's probably why.
Title: Re: Australian Santas Asked Not to 'Ho Ho Ho'
Post by: webcake on November 16, 2007, 02:49:35 AM
Yeah i was actually really surprised when i heard about this. I mean for the most part, Aus. is pretty relaxed when it comes to being PC, but hey, i guess times are changing. Shame really.