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Title: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 04:35:53 AM
NPC competitor Jeff Long (not to be confused with the IFBB pro of the same name) has added a TON of size from last year's nationals. He's moved up from heavyweight to superheavyweight. Very impressive mass, and I think he's only about 5'6 and 24 years old.

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8918_RRRWXKLWWK.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8961_XBLLGIXYRM.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8911_BMTFIJZGGL.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8958_TOOOGQEJGB.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8910_RMYZDSUETC.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8962_ZRLQSVEDRP.jpg)

I don't know what's up with this last guy's face.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 16, 2007, 04:37:15 AM
Whoa, lay off the slin Marky Mark!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: MAXX on November 16, 2007, 04:38:54 AM
all slin
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 04:38:56 AM
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8919_MSQPBVXLFO.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8920_KXJYNAWPFL.jpg)

Look at these legs!!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 04:39:54 AM
NPC competitor Jeff Long (not to be confused with the IFBB pro of the same name) has added a TON of size from last year's nationals. He's moved up from heavyweight to superheavyweight. Very impressive mass, and I think he's only about 5'6 and 24 years old.

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8918_RRRWXKLWWK.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8961_XBLLGIXYRM.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8911_BMTFIJZGGL.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8958_TOOOGQEJGB.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8910_RMYZDSUETC.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8962_ZRLQSVEDRP.jpg)

I don't know what's up with this last guy's face.
ha, this American kid has a definite future!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Monster81 on November 16, 2007, 04:41:28 AM
is this his competition condition?,,hes too fat to compete,,,,
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 16, 2007, 04:41:56 AM
Who's going to be first to join his Funky bunch?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 04:41:58 AM
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8915_JIFXJEWJGL.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8916_UEIRSRJKSF.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8917_IEJLVRUHNR.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8912_MUELUIDPNX.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8913_SHELRMSKHJ.jpg)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on November 16, 2007, 04:42:23 AM
More stretch marks than a pregnant bitch with a 30 pound baby.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Mazda323 on November 16, 2007, 04:42:59 AM
Impressive!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: natural al on November 16, 2007, 04:46:24 AM
what in the fuck is that moron in the bottom pic of the 1st post wearing?  you wonder why people think BBers are idiots and then you see this fucking clown walking around......what the fuck is wrong with these idiots?

BTW-monster v-taper on the guy this thread is about.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 04:46:37 AM
More stretch marks than a pregnant bitch with a 30 pound baby.
meow    lol
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 04:48:43 AM
what in the fuck is that moron in the bottom pic of the 1st post wearing?  you wonder why people think BBers are idiots and then you see this fucking clown walking around......what the fuck is wrong with these idiots?

BTW-monster v-taper on the guy this thread is about.

um along with taking drugs they watch cartoons?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: natural al on November 16, 2007, 04:58:38 AM
um along with taking drugs they watch cartoons?

but what is that idiot wearing?  Did he actually paint his fucking head to look like that?  Really did he look at himself and nod his head up and down a few times and say "man.....I look like a warrior...I'm fucking hardcore" and walk out of his house thinking that?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 05:00:14 AM
Arms:

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8914_CRCGKPOVYT.jpg)

Creepy guy putting him to sleep:

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8960_DSUOINKNQC.jpg)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: affeman on November 16, 2007, 05:00:32 AM
Looks healthy! ;D
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 05:09:29 AM
but what is that idiot wearing?  Did he actually paint his fucking head to look like that?  Really did he look at himself and nod his head up and down a few times and say "man.....I look like a warrior...I'm fucking hardcore" and walk out of his house thinking that?
just another narcissistic bodybuilder?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Monster81 on November 16, 2007, 05:10:42 AM
Looks healthy! ;D
he looks like Randy
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: wes on November 16, 2007, 05:15:47 AM
Ruined his physique already!!


I predict no competitive future for the kid at all.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 05:18:18 AM
Ruined his physique already!!


I predict no competitive future for the kid at all.
i wasnt talking about competition.  i meant posing on video
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Meso_z on November 16, 2007, 05:22:30 AM
Great mass.....
as for conditioning.......hes actually still a couple of weeks out.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 06:03:00 AM
Ruined his physique already!!


I predict no competitive future for the kid at all.

How did he ruin? Why do you think that?

He looks awesome. Thick, dense mass all over. The only complaint I can imagine would have to do with conditioning.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: nder98 on November 16, 2007, 06:13:00 AM
Great mass.....
as for conditioning.......hes actually still a couple of weeks out.


Zero conditioning, looks plain fat to me..
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 16, 2007, 06:14:14 AM
lol.................how can you "dog" a physique like this!!(and at such a young age)

show me a weak bodypart?????...you can't!

when he dials it in...............watch out!(what a fucking freak!!!)

Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: donrhummy on November 16, 2007, 06:14:31 AM
Another gut monster. NOT what BB needs.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: nder98 on November 16, 2007, 06:26:05 AM
lol.................how can you "dog" a physique like this!!(and at such a young age)

show me a weak bodypart?????...you can't!

when he dials it in...............watch out!(what a fucking freak!!!)



If your gonna step on stage, do it right the first time and dial in show the total package the first time. Dont walk up looking like you just had a Big Mac eating contest.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: duncanlukas on November 16, 2007, 06:32:54 AM
i noticed this guy too...he looks awesome size-wise but he does look like hes 4 weeks out.  I do like his look tho, he should get his pro card next year if he can dial in the conditioning.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: onlyme on November 16, 2007, 06:36:58 AM
I have those same socks
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: FreedomFighter on November 16, 2007, 06:44:43 AM
big dude- waay too fat
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Monster_Everything on November 16, 2007, 06:46:01 AM
Am I the only one who sees the guy with his face covered in tatoo in one of those pics ?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 16, 2007, 06:48:17 AM
Am I the only one who sees the guy with his face covered in tatoo in one of those pics ?

just pretend you don't see it......................(i did)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Tazziedevil on November 16, 2007, 06:54:53 AM
This guy is looking the goods, dialled in well.  Only a young bloke with a good future ahead, now lets see all the haters(keyboard junkies bag the shit out of him)  I get a great laugh out of this board, especially all the haters here!!!!!!  But most would be mere FAT pieces of shit that sit in front of their keyboards and type because they will always look like shit.  Am i now OWNED, OR a FAG????? cause thats  the only thing that gets posted here.  Anyhow this young bloke has good potential.  Now Im probably a poof cause i wrote this.............  8)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: sgt. d on November 16, 2007, 06:58:29 AM
Thats not Jeff "Box" Long. Why are you posting that name.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: wisconsinBB on November 16, 2007, 06:59:16 AM
Very impressive muscularity on that guy, but his jump from heavies to supers may not have been a wise choice, as he definately needs to be more conditioned.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Mars on November 16, 2007, 06:59:59 AM
(http://www.geocities.com/lamotte123/fletcher1.jpg)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Lift Studios on November 16, 2007, 07:04:31 AM
He's definitely a TANK. He has a ton of muscle but his conditioning was not very crisp at check-in.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: NubianMuscle on November 16, 2007, 07:05:13 AM
The NPC Freak Show ;D

Slin Freak meets Tattoo Freak ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: dr.chimps on November 16, 2007, 07:06:38 AM
Very impressive muscularity on that guy, but his jump from heavies to supers may not have been a wise choice, as he definately needs to be more conditioned.
Agreed. After the last few weeks of seeing Alex A's conditioning progress, this guy, in comparison, while huge, looks like he just decided to compete today.  :-\
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: davidpaul on November 16, 2007, 07:06:54 AM
kids munzered
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Brutal_1 on November 16, 2007, 07:31:04 AM
lol.................how can you "dog" a physique like this!!(and at such a young age)

show me a weak bodypart?????...you can't!




I can show you a strong bodypart......his HUGE gut!! 

That should be illegal at 24 y/o!  He can stand next to Fux with that gut  ;D

He ruined his body too soon, and based on history (including King) he'll never get a tight waist  ;)

But his forearms...Damn!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Tazziedevil on November 16, 2007, 07:33:57 AM
So, how do you go standing on stage BRUTAL?????  :o
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Brutal_1 on November 16, 2007, 07:35:10 AM
So, how do you go standing on stage BRUTAL?????  :o

Without a 12 gallon gut, thank you very much  :-*
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: aleksandr1974 on November 16, 2007, 07:35:39 AM
may be its not obvious from these pictures,but this guy injected a LOT of some stuff in his biceps.
i watched his arm training (at MD in the trenches) some months ago - it was pretty obvious.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BayGBM on November 16, 2007, 07:45:31 AM
If your gonna step on stage, do it right the first time and dial in show the total package the first time. Dont walk up looking like you just had a Big Mac eating contest.

That’s a bit unfair don’t you think?  Have you ever competed?  Do you routinely do things flawlessly in the begining?  I don’t.  This is bodybuilding isn't it?  The kid has put on a lot of muscle; give him credit.  So, he needs to work on his conditioning... don’t we all?  With the right tutelage, he will get better at dialing it in.

Those posing trunks are too small though.  :-[
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Miss Demeanor on November 16, 2007, 07:52:09 AM
but what is that idiot wearing?  Did he actually paint his fucking head to look like that?  Really did he look at himself and nod his head up and down a few times and say "man.....I look like a warrior...I'm fucking hardcore" and walk out of his house thinking that?

LOL.

He looks like he is wearing Magneto's helmet from X-Men.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 07:55:56 AM
Here he is in the 2006 nationals, as a heavyweight. Compare!

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q1701.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_4369.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_4373.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q1710.jpg)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Special Ed on November 16, 2007, 09:52:16 AM
Dude is a freak with some great bodyparts and good symmetry. hook him up with a conditioning specialist and he'll be a pro fer sure.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 10:22:52 AM
Here he is in the 2006 nationals, as a heavyweight. Compare!

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q1701.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_4369.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_4373.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q1710.jpg)
he'd be good bald too
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: local hero on November 16, 2007, 10:24:06 AM
he's actualy got a good stocky shape, nice big chunky arms and calves too... obvious he's been bangining in excess amounts of slin tho, im sure he'l nail his conditioning eventualy, got loads of time at 24 to figure it out.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BuffD on November 16, 2007, 10:26:23 AM
I judged Jeff in a few NJ shows and told him numerous times he needs to learn to diet right. His dad was there and he kept disagreeing saying he needs to carb up more and get "as big as a fuckin house!"  Those were his dads exact words.  Jeff's other issue is his nutritionist John Oreagon.  John has his guys take a TON OF SHIT!  They come in full and huge but rarely conditioned enough.  The only guy he ever had success with was Capriese Murray.  Jeff could do very well but he has to get ALOT leaner and get his midsection under control.  At least his arms are pretty much back to normal from all the Synthol he used.  There are a few training vids of him on MD and his arms are all shot up with that crap.  They look huge now though.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: natural al on November 16, 2007, 10:29:48 AM
LOL.

He looks like he is wearing Magneto's helmet from X-Men.
someone up above said it was a tatoo.....lord, I hope that guy isn't serious, he could be the biggest tool I've ever seen.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 10:30:54 AM
I judged Jeff in a few NJ shows and told him numerous times he needs to learn to diet right. His dad was there and he kept disagreeing saying he needs to carb up more and get "as big as a fuckin house!"  Those were his dads exact words.  Jeff's other issue is his nutritionist John Oreagon.  John has his guys take a TON OF SHIT!  They come in full and huge but rarely conditioned enough.  The only guy he ever had success with was Capriese Murray.  Jeff could do very well but he has to get ALOT leaner and get his midsection under control.  At least his arms are pretty much back to normal from all the Synthol he used.  There are a few training vids of him on MD and his arms are all shot up with that crap.  They look huge now though.

I didn't notice any signs of synthol, granted I'm no expert.

As for the midsection, there's much worse out there.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Overload on November 16, 2007, 10:33:09 AM
Dead pool candidate?

8)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: The Coach on November 16, 2007, 10:37:58 AM
Guess he doesn't believe in diet or conditioning.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 16, 2007, 11:55:22 AM
there are pics of this kid over at MD in pretty good condidtion.............. ..ill see if i can dig em up
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 16, 2007, 12:08:41 PM
I can't find the pics of a conditioned Jeff Long (they are around somewhere!)

here is a video of him tho



Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 01:12:55 PM
Thanks for posting the video, Mike. It was a series of vids of him and his training partner on MD's "In the Trenches"..

I remember seeing it and simply not believing how thick the guy is, especially when he stands sideways.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: wes on November 16, 2007, 01:55:45 PM
If he keeps heading in the direction he`s heading in,he`ll just be another huge mass monster with a big gut.

If he can get shrinkwrapped and keep the gut in check he`ll do OK.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Noel Fuller on November 16, 2007, 02:10:21 PM
He wont get anywhere showing up in six weeks out condition
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: MattT on November 16, 2007, 02:31:54 PM
wow gh gut already?? he looks offseason still, he has very thick skin, reminds me of Jay Cutlers skin type, but atleast he has some vascularity that shows through his skin.  Id say his waist is 38"

gh15 whats your opinion of this guy?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: swoody on November 16, 2007, 03:15:21 PM
Too bad about the kid's slin/igf gut  :-\  thick skin, lack of conditioning... maybe a white Dennis James in the making?  ;D ... his "dad" and his nutritionist sound like a couple grade-A dumbasses... if he's smart he'd find someone else to prep him... one of the biggest 24 year olds I've EVER seen though... that most muscular shot is INSANE.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: fakeblood on November 16, 2007, 03:27:03 PM
looks offseason, looked great in the other pics.
needs to watch the growth gut. to young to have one
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Old-Skool on November 16, 2007, 04:13:31 PM
Great off season pics. WOW.  ::).
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BuffD on November 16, 2007, 04:52:36 PM
I didn't notice any signs of synthol, granted I'm no expert.

As for the midsection, there's much worse out there.

No you can't see it there but on MD's site there are training vids of him and you can clearly see it.  The thing with Synthol is to use it in the offseason to stretch the fascia so the body part grows. Then be sure to stop using it far enough out from a contest so the muscle looks normal. 
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 16, 2007, 05:35:54 PM
bump
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 05:41:27 PM
No you can't see it there but on MD's site there are training vids of him and you can clearly see it.  The thing with Synthol is to use it in the offseason to stretch the fascia so the body part grows. Then be sure to stop using it far enough out from a contest so the muscle looks normal. 

Thanks. I didn't know that.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: nder98 on November 16, 2007, 06:09:17 PM
That’s a bit unfair don’t you think?  Have you ever competed?  Do you routinely do things flawlessly in the begining?  I don’t.  This is bodybuilding isn't it?  The kid has put on a lot of muscle; give him credit.  So, he needs to work on his conditioning... don’t we all?  With the right tutelage, he will get better at dialing it in.

Those posing trunks are too small though.  :-[

Im not saying Im perfect and yes I have competed. Im not saying the kid looks terrible, hes got a TON of mass. Just needs more conditioning and he'll do damage.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: YoungBlood on November 16, 2007, 06:16:30 PM

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_8962_ZRLQSVEDRP.jpg)

I don't know what's up with this last guy's face.

http://www.chadnicholls.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51088

That thread tells a little about the guys face- which is a tattooed helmet of ancient times- or something like that. :P

I don't care for Mr. Longs look. Too big of a waist, stretch marks (without the tanning lotion) are really distracting, and when he raises his arms for a FDB pose, his upper chest disappears. Arnold described this as having weak upper pecs.
Impressive, but the waistline in these photos are hindering his look more than the added size helping his look. :-\
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: GroinkTropin on November 16, 2007, 06:17:16 PM
Am I the only one feeling a little weird looking at this dude wearing what looks like a womans thong in a hotel lobby? And talking to what magneto no less, talk about a schmoe the whole thing is kinda odd....
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: nder98 on November 16, 2007, 06:20:37 PM
Am I the only one feeling a little weird looking at this dude wearing what looks like a womans thong in a hotel lobby? And talking to what magneto no less, talk about a schmoe the whole thing is kinda odd....

That magneto guy is at all the shows, hes pretty cool guy.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 16, 2007, 06:20:59 PM
What a waste not to come in in shape. He wasn't in shape the year before either. Once is excusable if you're young and dumb but how stupid do you have to be to come in 25lbs overweight? The judges won't care about his potential, only what he presents that day, which is a fat body.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2007, 06:59:08 PM
What a waste not to come in in shape. He wasn't in shape the year before either. Once is excusable if you're young and dumb but how stupid do you have to be to come in 25lbs overweight? The judges won't care about his potential, only what he presents that day, which is a fat body.
has potential,and mass is in spades,shape isn't too bad either,'id say 10 to 15 lbs would be ideal,but todays standard for conditioning is extreme even for the supers.if he's done this 2 yrs in a row then he's just afraid to commit to all out diet for conditioning and probably the stigma "i'll look small if i get too lean'dude this is the nationals not the best body in a night club contest.a big dude nonetheless...he would be a great bouncer.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 07:05:09 PM
i'd like to see his companys website
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 16, 2007, 07:13:22 PM
He's only 24 condition can take time with some people. It's still pretty good, to be honest he does have enough mass he shouldn't stress about dropping 10 more pounds to compete. Probably look bigger.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Camel Jockey on November 16, 2007, 07:20:36 PM
Is the Magneto guy bigboobs?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: swoody on November 16, 2007, 07:35:26 PM
has potential,and mass is in spades,shape isn't too bad either,'id say 10 to 15 lbs would be ideal,but todays standard for conditioning is extreme even for the supers.if he's done this 2 yrs in a row then he's just afraid to commit to all out diet for conditioning and probably the stigma "i'll look small if i get too lean'dude this is the nationals not the best body in a night club contest.a big dude nonetheless...he would be a great bouncer.

I think that today's standards for conditioning have actually dropped from 10 years ago... too much igf-1 and slin abuse makes these dudes conditioning look like crap... Compare thise years Olympia (and all the other shows from this year) to the Olympia and all other shows 10 years ago... HUGE step in the wrong direction with the conditioning in my opinion.  The judges know how rampant the igf-1/gh/slin combos are, and have lowered their standards cause everyone does it... :-\
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 07:44:58 PM
has potential,and mass is in spades,shape isn't too bad either,'id say 10 to 15 lbs would be ideal,but todays standard for conditioning is extreme even for the supers.if he's done this 2 yrs in a row then he's just afraid to commit to all out diet for conditioning and probably the stigma "i'll look small if i get too lean'dude this is the nationals not the best body in a night club contest.a big dude nonetheless...he would be a great bouncer.

A great bouncer? He's 5'6. You need to take that into account.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Old-Skool on November 16, 2007, 07:54:19 PM
Potential? I'm with Overload.....dead pool candidate...sorry
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Matt C on November 16, 2007, 08:05:10 PM
A great bouncer? He's 5'6. You need to take that into account.

At his size, I'm not sure if it would be a big deal.

Are you saying that the 6'1 and 1/2 Gunter would make a better bouncer?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 16, 2007, 08:10:29 PM
At his size, I'm not sure if it would be a big deal.

Are you saying that the 6'1 and 1/2 Gunter would make a better bouncer?

Maybe... I have no idea how much Jeff weighs in the offseason, or in contest..
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 16, 2007, 08:16:09 PM
At his size, I'm not sure if it would be a big deal.

Are you saying that the 6'1 and 1/2 Gunter would make a better bouncer?
who hires midgets for bouncers ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: aussiepro on November 16, 2007, 08:22:49 PM
he's 1 big fucker, yeah totally agree he needed a couple of more weeks then he'd look that much better, huge gut to needs to keep that in check
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 16, 2007, 08:29:24 PM
I judged Jeff in a few NJ shows and told him numerous times he needs to learn to diet right. His dad was there and he kept disagreeing saying he needs to carb up more and get "as big as a fuckin house!"  Those were his dads exact words.  Jeff's other issue is his nutritionist John Oreagon.  John has his guys take a TON OF SHIT!  They come in full and huge but rarely conditioned enough.  The only guy he ever had success with was Capriese Murray.  Jeff could do very well but he has to get ALOT leaner and get his midsection under control.  At least his arms are pretty much back to normal from all the Synthol he used.  There are a few training vids of him on MD and his arms are all shot up with that crap.  They look huge now though.

i like you you are smart
this is my observation of this fella: gh insulin aas ,,whats going on in that house of his is a pharmacy on a chub irish kid with good respond to hormones ,,take the hormones away and you will find him with same size gut yet half the size at 190lb in your local ymca,,
his main problem is that his muscles look puffed even when cut and ripped ,,they look fake ,,like a blow up doll ,,ummm how do i say it nicely,,umm,,bad vesriuon of grunt? diff is grant muscle is solid and that kid is far far far from solid anything but calves which is common in american kids to have big calves even with out training due to obesity and overweight,,
only impressive when it comes to sheer size but sheer size as you can see here is defenitely not everything
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2007, 08:29:57 PM
A great bouncer? He's 5'6. You need to take that into account.
thats a really big dude then,if he's over 240 or 250 then thats stacked.he's plenty tall enough with that mass.i still think to be on this stage he needs to be in better overall condition.how wide must he be in person at that height.if putnam is light heavy at same height this guy is 2 weight classes up.putnam is in better condition of course,but from a size differential sheesh....
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: arce377 on November 16, 2007, 08:38:17 PM
belly, pale and acne
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: TooPowerful4u on November 16, 2007, 09:11:20 PM
i like you you are smart
this is my observation of this fella: gh insulin aas ,,whats going on in that house of his is a pharmacy on a chub irish kid with good respond to hormones ,,take the hormones away and you will find him with same size gut yet half the size at 190lb in your local ymca,,
his main problem is that his muscles look puffed even when cut and ripped ,,they look fake ,,like a blow up doll ,,ummm how do i say it nicely,,umm,,bad vesriuon of grunt? diff is grant muscle is solid and that kid is far far far from solid anything but calves which is common in american kids to have big calves even with out training due to obesity and overweight,,
only impressive when it comes to sheer size but sheer size as you can see here is defenitely not everything

Well for once... i KNOW your wrong.  See.. i know him personally... and your observation is off.... so the great GH15 is not ALWAYS right.  I wont say what, because it is not my place... but i know 100% that 75% of that post above is way off....
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 16, 2007, 09:21:54 PM
This kid Jeff is a freak period!

there is nothing except conditioning (which will come with time/age maturity) to gripe about

has a great future in the sport
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 16, 2007, 09:43:15 PM
Well for once... i KNOW your wrong.  See.. i know him personally... and your observation is off.... so the great GH15 is not ALWAYS right.  I wont say what, because it is not my place... but i know 100% that 75% of that post above is way off....

i am rarely wrong and when i am i admit it but! when it comes to bodybuilding and hormones i am never wrong not even one out of million cases,,why? because i know the routine i been HAVE been there,,pay attention to the present tense that i put in capital,,

no bodybuilder know what other bodybuilder does unless if he is that exact bodybuilder and even then the lies are dependent on speciific situation since in the usa you are all scared pussy because hormones there are controlled,,
youll never hear from a bodybuilder under his real name with real pictures the real truth about what he takes nor will you be standing in his bathroom ,,his parents will not know either,,,

it all comes out when the bodybuilder get heart attack or heart stop or lose kidny when part ,,part!,,of the truth comes out and the bodybuilder quits with shame due to health problems and other factors

this guy is puffed from hormones and his muscle is far FAR from imprssive ,,big yes huge yes impressive? not in the life time,,he also look weak! big diff between him and big eastern europian in that size,,huge diff! if the muscle = the size you will always ALWAYS LOOK STRONG,,ALWAYS,,what you see in those picturs is a heavy reliance on drugs to achieve a physiqe that is blown up and would get back to its 180-190lb within year off use

this is not a freak orinigally,,it is a guy with feaky respond to hormones which if fooloowed by serious training could do damge but i see lots of blow up doll and little of solidied muscle

ium never wrong,,but again in todays bodybuilding world everything goes,,they want size so there you have
5'6 at 240lb at 105 is hormonized to the 20th degree,,infact that kid live and swim in hormones
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: TooPowerful4u on November 16, 2007, 09:47:50 PM
i am rarely wrong and when i am i admit it but! when it comes to bodybuilding and hormones i am never wrong not even one out of million cases,,why? because i know the routine i been HAVE been there,,pay attention to the present tense that i put in capital,,

no bodybuilder know what other bodybuilder does unless if he is that exact bodybuilder and even then the lies are dependent on speciific situation since in the usa you are all scared pussy because hormones there are controlled,,
youll never hear from a bodybuilder under his real name with real pictures the real truth about what he takes nor will you be standing in his bathroom ,,his parents will not know either,,,

it all comes out when the bodybuilder get heart attack or heart stop or lose kidny when part ,,part!,,of the truth comes out and the bodybuilder quits with shame due to health problems and other factors

this guy is puffed from hormones and his muscle is far FAR from imprssive ,,big yes huge yes impressive? not in the life time,,he also look weak! big diff between him and big eastern europian in that size,,huge diff! if the muscle = the size you will always ALWAYS LOOK STRONG,,ALWAYS,,what you see in those picturs is a heavy reliance on drugs to achieve a physiqe that is blown up and would get back to its 180-190lb within year off use

this is not a freak orinigally,,it is a guy with feaky respond to hormones which if fooloowed by serious training could do damge but i see lots of blow up doll and little of solidied muscle

ium never wrong,,but again in todays bodybuilding world everything goes,,they want size so there you have
5'6 at 240lb at 105 is hormonized to the 20th degree,,infact that kid live and swim in hormones

He was a muscular 230 before he used, so there goes that theory. And you are right.. hes probably weak.. 500 for reps on squats deep is pretty weak...  Thats all il say for now...
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 16, 2007, 09:56:55 PM
5'6 230lb unles its a fat slob at 20% is on hormones period,,500 for reps in the squat rep at 240lb ,,5-6 plates each side of bar squat is quite strong but if you have on you 240lb at 10% 5'6 you better do 8 plates each side for max reps,,you never met too many eastern europe i invite you to germany and russia,,you wont be able to finish yoru session ,,youll practically have an excuse or just puke and ask to slow down and lower weight,,so yes for a blow up 240lb doing 6 reps with 500lb is quite good in american terms but that aint no strong for the SIZE YOU ARE GIVING ME HERE,,last week a 195lb lifter 8% was working infront of me with 4 plates each side of squat for reps 10 full reps,,a month ago a 200lb 50 year old that had nothing to do with bodybuilding and looked nothing like bodybuilder did 5 plates each side of bar squat to the floor infront of me while i played with 2 each side,,yet im 3 times his muscle size....

in any casse 5'6 is a small little man.,,they dont see the number 200lb at saingle digit unless on hormones period! in this guy case he swim in hormones its a promise
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Lift Studios on November 16, 2007, 11:13:18 PM
This guy is a tank but he needs to change some thing around if he plans to have a future in bodybuilding. His conditioning was way off and his physique is a look that isn't one of quality, mature muscle yet.

Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: The Freakshow on November 17, 2007, 12:03:43 AM
NPC competitor Jeff Long (not to be confused with the IFBB pro of the same name) has added a TON of size from last year's nationals. He's moved up from heavyweight to superheavyweight. Very impressive mass, and I think he's only about 5'6 and 24 years old.


MASS is the key word here! Definitely needs to work on conditioning. What is someone like that thinking showing up in that kind of condition ???

I can understand if its a small local show. But this guy is a high caliber amatuer with a lot of potential. He needs to get in shape!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Hypo on November 17, 2007, 02:36:54 AM
The dude's quads and hams are crap in those competition pics. There is NO definition in his hams and his quads are shallow and lacking the conditioning that his upper body has. He needs to work on those for a start.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: MAXX on November 17, 2007, 02:43:21 AM
he looks like another blow up insulin doll. huge gut to go with it like allways. and gut will get bigger.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: musclecenter on November 17, 2007, 03:10:06 AM
 ::) ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 17, 2007, 04:38:33 AM
Anyone know what his weight in competition is this year? That info always seems to be lacking.

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(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q4990_WBINDPRLWH.jpg)

What does it take for this guy to smile on stage??!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 17, 2007, 05:23:29 AM
Anyone know what his weight in competition is this year? That info always seems to be lacking.

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(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q5006_AVAGCTYSQX.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q4990_WBINDPRLWH.jpg)

What does it take for this guy to smile on stage??!!
  he smiles when he poses privately
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: musclecenter on November 17, 2007, 05:35:19 AM
Anyone know what his weight in competition is this year? That info always seems to be lacking.


Super-Heavyweight over 225-1/ 4 lbs .
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: dr_para24 on November 17, 2007, 05:52:14 AM
Very massive and impressive, but he is not ripped enough :-[
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: SquatsRule on November 17, 2007, 05:54:56 AM
alot of gurus on here. It's amazing how from a couple of photos of a guy standing relaxed the getbig gurus can pinpoint exactly what drugs this kid is taking.  ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: musclecenter on November 17, 2007, 06:00:26 AM
alot of gurus on here. It's amazing how from a couple of photos of a guy standing relaxed the getbig gurus can pinpoint exactly what drugs this kid is taking.  ::)
Ha ha...
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: muscleforlife on November 17, 2007, 06:57:53 AM
someone up above said it was a tatoo.....lord, I hope that guy isn't serious, he could be the biggest tool I've ever seen.
I saw the tattooed guy in the show in NJ and then two weeks later at the Easterns in NYC.
yup that is a tattoo, others include his forearms, calves, nipples are in the center of the star tattoo....it just goes on and on...

Sandra
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 17, 2007, 07:52:11 AM
I feel bad because he is already fucked up and I think he could look sooo much betah.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 17, 2007, 07:52:40 AM
Ironman photos:

(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/783/Men/783mp1556.jpg)

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(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/783/Men/783mp1554.jpg)

All this talk about his "gut" is getting too exaggerated IMO.

And how many 24 y/o's can you guys name who have forearms, arms, shoulders, and even a back like his??????
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Relentless on November 17, 2007, 07:57:09 AM
I honestly feel very sorry for this kid.  He's huge - but it's obviously at the expense of his health.  His muscles look inflated and have very little separation.  He's rushing to put on as much muscle as possible, hence the huge belly and lack of cuts.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 17, 2007, 08:00:17 AM
I feel bad because he is already fucked up and I think he could look sooo much betah.

Yeah totally... maybe, just maybe, one day he can aspire to look almost as good as you, SevenCocksToTease...
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 17, 2007, 08:04:59 AM
Yeah totally... maybe, just maybe, one day he can aspire to look almost as good as you, SevenCocksToTease...
and u are...
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BayGBM on November 17, 2007, 08:08:32 AM
JEFF'S physique is reminiscent of Phil Hernon..............

Not even!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: affy on November 17, 2007, 08:11:18 AM
He was a muscular 230 before he used, so there goes that theory. And you are right.. hes probably weak.. 500 for reps on squats deep is pretty weak...  Thats all il say for now...
rofl 5'6 230 before he used

hahahhaaha you're a joke...stop defending your friend...the guys a walking pharmacy who looks 6 weeks out
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: aleksandr1974 on November 17, 2007, 09:50:37 AM
offseason.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 17, 2007, 10:03:10 AM
offseason.
why do guys put oil in their arms ? It looks like 2 huge infections...
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 17, 2007, 11:12:16 AM
not even a tall as the breaker box  ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Pete Nice on November 17, 2007, 11:19:43 AM
not even a tall as the breaker box  ::)

yes, most bber's are midgets
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: duncanlukas on November 17, 2007, 11:28:11 AM
dude looks massive...he actually looked better at the golds classic in jersey which was a few weeks ago, but i like his look, just needs to take dieting more serious next time.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 17, 2007, 12:33:01 PM
offseason.

YOWZA!!! That is freaky!!!

But why is his left arm bigger and redder than his right?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 17, 2007, 12:40:34 PM
this is the defintiion of drug addict that put less in the gym and more in his body to get disired result that dont come,,this physiqe if turns proffessional will finish bodybuilding once and for all it is bad version of chris cook and it is guy who 100% didnt start doing it for the right reasons,,he has oil he can pull it because he is a chubb chubb to begin with but oil is there,,, he got no average everything and he should have been 180lb on stage ,,this is a bad bad version of a kuclo blow out ,,see kuclo his muscle look like it has developmenteven though blown up and kuclo does have what it takes to turn proffessional,,same for warrior cage fighter? chris cook,,this guy on the other hand is a complte mess COMPLETE MESS,,this is irish scotish no eyeliner version of young palumbo,,should alwyas stay amatuer with this physiqe or reducr about 50lb but guess what...he cant because he is already fucked it up forever so now no matter what he does he will be stuck at a bad version of kamali with out professional card for ever ,,maybe the girls will like it though! i doubt it
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: tweeter on November 17, 2007, 12:43:32 PM
Gut too big, posing trunks too small
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: davidpaul on November 17, 2007, 12:45:26 PM
this is the defintiion of drug addict that put less in the gym and more in his body to get disired result that dont come,,this physiqe if turns proffessional will finish bodybuilding once and for all it is bad version of chris cook and it is guy who 100% didnt start doing it for the right reasons,,he has oil he can pull it because he is a chubb chubb to begin with but oil is there,,, he got no average everything and he should have been 180lb on stage ,,this is a bad bad version of a kuclo blow out ,,see kuclo his muscle look like it has developmenteven though blown up and kuclo does have what it takes to turn proffessional,,same for warrior cage fighter? chris cook,,this guy on the other hand is a complte mess COMPLETE MESS,,this is irish scotish no eyeliner version of young palumbo,,should alwyas stay amatuer with this physiqe or reducr about 50lb but guess what...he cant because he is already fucked it up forever so now no matter what he does he will be stuck at a bad version of kamali with out professional card for ever ,,maybe the girls will like it though! i doubt it

 ;D
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 17, 2007, 01:05:17 PM
this is the defintiion of drug addict that put less in the gym and more in his body to get disired result that dont come,,this physiqe if turns proffessional will finish bodybuilding once and for all it is bad version of chris cook and it is guy who 100% didnt start doing it for the right reasons,,he has oil he can pull it because he is a chubb chubb to begin with but oil is there,,, he got no average everything and he should have been 180lb on stage ,,this is a bad bad version of a kuclo blow out ,,see kuclo his muscle look like it has developmenteven though blown up and kuclo does have what it takes to turn proffessional,,same for warrior cage fighter? chris cook,,this guy on the other hand is a complte mess COMPLETE MESS,,this is irish scotish no eyeliner version of young palumbo,,should alwyas stay amatuer with this physiqe or reducr about 50lb but guess what...he cant because he is already fucked it up forever so now no matter what he does he will be stuck at a bad version of kamali with out professional card for ever ,,maybe the girls will like it though! i doubt it
chubb chubb with oil?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 17, 2007, 01:31:39 PM
chubb chubb with oil?

yes oil spot injects with oil and aas + bodyfat% that cover it well and hide it to a degree but it all come out at single digit 6% dont you worry,,

second to compare him to phil ,,you guys are nuts,,hernon was good bodybuilder sliced and big ,,he wasnt some fat kid who chased to be big no matyter what,,size came with quality even after he used some il it came with QUALIUTY!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 17, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
GH15, tell us what you really think :)

How is Jeff any more of a "drug addict" than other NPC top competitors and pros?

He did what he had to do to get his mass at his age...
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Noel Fuller on November 17, 2007, 03:32:20 PM
guys your all overreacting he not unhealthy hes just 6 weeks away..he has no concept of a competition diet. thats it hes just fat.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 17, 2007, 03:41:12 PM
GH15, tell us what you really think :)

How is Jeff any more of a "drug addict" than other NPC top competitors and pros?

He did what he had to do to get his mass at his age...
yeah GH and no Liza this time  ;)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: McFarland on November 17, 2007, 04:38:35 PM
Well for once... i KNOW your wrong.  See.. i know him personally... and your observation is off.... so the great GH15 is not ALWAYS right.  I wont say what, because it is not my place... but i know 100% that 75% of that post above is way off....

He's actually been wrong a few times now that I've counted.   :)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 17, 2007, 04:51:57 PM
show me him or anyone else to that matter at age 17-18 and i will show you the money,,the drug atmosphere in united states is beyond catastrophic and you know it well and this guy is no different but! his muscle quality is simliar to marshmelo man even when on stage and to compare him to hernon is wacky to the 10th degree
and tell liza who ever she is that i said so,,your getbig language is beyond me on that one
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 17, 2007, 04:53:56 PM
I only wish I had that kind of "marshmelo" muscle, gh15!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 17, 2007, 05:01:01 PM
I only wish I had that kind of "marshmelo" muscle, gh15!!

russian dianabol,,british dispensary anabaol,,naposim,, at 50-100mg a day
testovis schering,,omnadren,,sustanons,,norma testosterone at 1000-2000mg a week
nandrolone norma or nandrolone pharma 600-1200mg a week
gh and slin whenever you like  because what the heck why not i want to be big profesional like gh15
fat burners and stimulants with some anti estrogen so i can lose some fat so it make me look even bigger

above written put into a year to 2 years in gym and you too my dear freidn will look like that,,yes you too,,it will be your body style with a lot more height and a better frame most likley because i dont think too many people are 5'6 so you only will look better

you kids need to understand I AM A VERY HIGH LEVEL PROFFESIONAL BODYBUILDER TOP 10 0 A LOT MORE THAN ONCE ,,you cant sell me bullcrap and what i state here is written in stone wether you like it or not
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 17, 2007, 05:02:07 PM
ofcourse nutrition and training should be consistant otherwize noi drug in the world will help you ,,you dont train you dont eat enough whatever it is you eat ...you dont grow
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 17, 2007, 05:08:21 PM
Thanks, gh15! I'll give it a "shot" and get back to you :)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: McFarland on November 17, 2007, 06:29:38 PM
You can tell by the look in this kid's eyes that he's a beast through and through.  gh15 you know that sooner or later this kid's gonna harden up and do some shit. 
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 17, 2007, 11:11:18 PM
Still, homeboy is about as dry as gelatto.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: omg on November 18, 2007, 04:12:32 AM
You can tell by the look in this kid's eyes that he's a beast through and through.  gh15 you know that sooner or later this kid's gonna harden up and do some shit. 

haha i have been reading a lot of replies calling him a 'kid' . i wonder how 'manly' you guys are  :-*
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BuffD on November 18, 2007, 06:50:25 AM
i like you you are smart
this is my observation of this fella: gh insulin aas ,,whats going on in that house of his is a pharmacy on a chub irish kid with good respond to hormones ,,take the hormones away and you will find him with same size gut yet half the size at 190lb in your local ymca,,
his main problem is that his muscles look puffed even when cut and ripped ,,they look fake ,,like a blow up doll ,,ummm how do i say it nicely,,umm,,bad vesriuon of grunt? diff is grant muscle is solid and that kid is far far far from solid anything but calves which is common in american kids to have big calves even with out training due to obesity and overweight,,
only impressive when it comes to sheer size but sheer size as you can see here is defenitely not everything

Man I really wish you could have a chat with his dad.  Seriously this guy is living right through Jeff.  I gurantee he pays for EVERYTHING the kid takes and more than likely shoots him up and shoves food down his throat.  He is a mess.  He may have looked ok if instead of being a 237lb Super he dieted to a 198lb Light Heavy or at most a 210lb heavy.  The kid is dumb as hell too.  He can hardly speak for himself.  It's amazing what parents will do to try to make their kids a success.  He was a good looking kid the first time I saw him compete.  He just fell apart after that.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 18, 2007, 07:25:45 AM
Man I really wish you could have a chat with his dad.  Seriously this guy is living right through Jeff.  I gurantee he pays for EVERYTHING the kid takes and more than likely shoots him up and shoves food down his throat.  He is a mess.  He may have looked ok if instead of being a 237lb Super he dieted to a 198lb Light Heavy or at most a 210lb heavy.  The kid is dumb as hell too.  He can hardly speak for himself.  It's amazing what parents will do to try to make their kids a success.  He was a good looking kid the first time I saw him compete.  He just fell apart after that.

Dude, that is SAD...

and more than a bit creepy!  :-\
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 18, 2007, 07:31:07 AM
Dude, that is SAD...

and more than a bit creepy!  :-\

actually this is quite common, show business is filled with stage mothers and dads who attempt to capture lost opportunities through their children.  some children embrace it while others rebel
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 18, 2007, 08:35:39 AM
actually this is quite common, show business is filled with stage mothers and dads who attempt to capture lost opportunities through their children.  some children embrace it while others rebel

But a dad buying steroids, slin and gh for his son???
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 18, 2007, 08:44:28 AM
But a dad buying steroids, slin and gh for his son???
lots of weirdo shit happens in life and even bodybuilding :D
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 18, 2007, 08:53:56 AM
lol... my conscience won't even let me ask my parents for tuition or rent money.. I wouldn't DREAM of having them pay for steroids!!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Noel Fuller on November 18, 2007, 12:00:21 PM
fuck that..I wish anybody would buy my gear for me..I hate paying for it.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BuffD on November 18, 2007, 01:33:21 PM
I'm not even so sure Jeff is all that passionate about bodybuilding.  He is pretty monotone all the time.  At least he was the few times I've met him.  He pretty much just does as he's told by his trainer and his dad.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Noel Fuller on November 18, 2007, 03:07:31 PM
how does he feel about his placing?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BuffD on November 18, 2007, 04:10:02 PM
how does he feel about his placing?

No clue.  I know when he was just doing state level shows he never complained.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 18, 2007, 07:33:29 PM
Two videos:

Jeff at last year's nationals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgR6mMYCv_Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgR6mMYCv_Y)

Jeff offseason arms training (this is one video from the series, the rest can be found on youtube):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogx6Yyy7U44 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogx6Yyy7U44)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: duncanlukas on November 18, 2007, 07:41:07 PM
he was pretty big at last years nationals too...just not peeled enouhg
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: tommywishbone on November 18, 2007, 07:47:20 PM
"Chub-Chub with oil"

 ;D
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Shockwave on November 18, 2007, 08:19:07 PM
Conditioning of 14 years ago.
Contrast that with todays pros.
Sad.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/3846-13/1993-mr-olympia-28.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=aa98a348fcae1d340fa67443a1cb06b1)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/3786-15/1993-mr-olympia-12.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=aa98a348fcae1d340fa67443a1cb06b1)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: The Coach on November 18, 2007, 08:23:19 PM
Conditioning of 14 years ago.
Contrast that with todays pros.
Sad.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/3846-13/1993-mr-olympia-28.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=aa98a348fcae1d340fa67443a1cb06b1)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/3786-15/1993-mr-olympia-12.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=aa98a348fcae1d340fa67443a1cb06b1)

Thats because they keep screwing the insulin/GH combo........today, these guys wouldn't know true conditioning if it slaped them up side the head.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 19, 2007, 05:40:55 PM
Could be a "future star"
great bodybuilding potential


(maybe should hire a "good" nutritionist/trainer,get him ripped for his next show)

Dave Pullcinella or Alex A both great choices!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 19, 2007, 05:45:58 PM
I agree with you, Mike. I just can't imagine being that advanced at 24. He's obviously dedicated to it. Hope he can get it right next year!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 19, 2007, 05:48:09 PM
I agree with you, Mike. I just can't imagine being that advanced at 24. He's obviously dedicated to it. Hope he can get it right next year!

With the right trainer/nutritionist i think he can...................

24 years old.................that is crazy!!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 19, 2007, 05:58:07 PM
UMMMM Mike I already posted that video a few posts above :)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 19, 2007, 06:01:59 PM
UMMMM Mike I already posted that video a few posts above :)

What video??!?!?!?!?


                                                             ;D
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 19, 2007, 06:06:23 PM
Damn you are a sneaky one :)

In that video from last year's nationals, Jeff basically had the same problems he had this year: conditioning.

What he did in the interim year was slap on a lot of muscle and move up a weight class. It's pretty impressive for a 5'6 guy to compete as a superheavyweight.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on November 19, 2007, 06:14:03 PM
(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6655.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6656.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6657.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6658.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6659.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6660.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6661.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6662.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6663.jpg)

(http://www.flexonline.com/07contests/07nationals/superheavy/images/IMG_6664.jpg)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2007, 07:55:45 PM
actually if he hardened up and had grainy type condition u would have a branch warren type..that being said he has to achieve that condition.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 08:04:00 PM
actually if he hardened up and had grainy type condition u would have a branch warren type..that being said he has to achieve that condition.

I think that's it...

Branch is the same size but harder.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: temper35 on November 19, 2007, 08:27:13 PM
Could be a "future star"
great bodybuilding potential


(maybe should hire a "good" nutritionist/trainer,get him ripped for his next show)

Dave Pullcinella or Alex A both great choices!

Dave Pulcinella?  haha.  Why not hire someone like Palumbo. 
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 24, 2008, 04:56:29 AM
Dave Pulcinella?  haha.  Why not hire someone like Palumbo. 

What can Palumbo do for you that Dave can't? ???
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: kyomu on January 24, 2008, 05:33:46 AM
Whoa, lay off the slin Marky Mark!
godamn true! resembleee!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 25, 2008, 12:30:30 PM
I was just at the grocery store, and was looking through their bbing mags. This guy was in a MHP ad on the back cover of the Ironman December issue.

He looked just beastly. Says he's 5'6 at 280 lbs (thanks to MHP products, of course ::))... Funny part was where it said that three years ago, he'd walk into the gym and not get noticed. Here we are blaming high dosages of GH and slin for rapid massive growth, when in reality it was those damn MHP products all along!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Matt C on January 25, 2008, 01:29:55 PM
I was just at the grocery store, and was looking through their bbing mags. This guy was in a MHP ad on the back cover of the Ironman December issue.

He looked just beastly. Says he's 5'6 at 280 lbs (thanks to MHP products, of course ::))... Funny part was where it said that three years ago, he'd walk into the gym and not get noticed. Here we are blaming high dosages of GH and slin for rapid massive growth, when in reality it was those damn MHP products all along!

And Gaspari products helped Flex Lewis win the British Nationals.  ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 25, 2008, 01:31:58 PM
And Gaspari products helped Flex Lewis win the British Nationals.  ::)

Not to mention Jay winning the Olympia thanks to Muscletech products, and Ronnie thanks to BSN products...

If Trey Brewer bombs at the USA's, you think BSN stock will drop? :)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on January 25, 2008, 01:33:04 PM
Not to mention Jay winning the Olympia thanks to Muscletech products, and Ronnie thanks to BSN products...

If Trey Brewer bombs at the USA's, you think BSN stock will drop? :)
no it will be because he dropped his 700 pound for reps barbell incline on himself. ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 25, 2008, 01:42:54 PM
no it will be because he dropped his 700 pound for reps barbell incline on himself. ::)

Hey man, don't knock the Barely Legal Freak. 8)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: TooPowerful4u on January 25, 2008, 02:16:29 PM
no it will be because he dropped his 700 pound for reps barbell incline on himself. ::)

I heard it was 750
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 26, 2008, 12:09:55 PM
From Palumbo's site:

(http://www.davepalumbo.com/2008%20Photos/StokelyJan19/images/DSCN0277.jpg)

(http://www.davepalumbo.com/2008%20Photos/StokelyJan19/images/DSCN0273.jpg)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 26, 2008, 12:12:04 PM
Does he really have one arm that much bigger than the other?!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: watchagot on January 26, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
A big bloated blob. That ooks healthy ? Just the look that bodybuilding should be going for ? Another illustrated photo of why competitive bodybuilding has gone way beyond even looking good aesthetically & health wise.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 26, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
A big bloated blob. That ooks healthy ? Just the look that bodybuilding should be going for ? Another illustrated photo of why competitive bodybuilding has gone way beyond even looking good aesthetically & health wise.

Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think 8)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: GHGut on January 26, 2008, 01:21:07 PM
I was just at the grocery store, and was looking through their bbing mags. This guy was in a MHP ad on the back cover of the Ironman December issue.

He looked just beastly. Says he's 5'6 at 280 lbs (thanks to MHP products, of course ::))... Funny part was where it said that three years ago, he'd walk into the gym and not get noticed. Here we are blaming high dosages of GH and slin for rapid massive growth, when in reality it was those damn MHP products all along!

I took those pics of Jeff for the MHP ad. I didn't ask him to step on a scale but I'd say he was definitely in the 275-280 range and confirmed he was. Brah is HUGE. There's a pic of him in my MuscleMag column this month too looking monstrous.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 26, 2008, 01:23:31 PM
I took those pics of Jeff for the MHP ad. I didn't ask him to step on a scale but I'd say he was definitely in the 275-280 range and confirmed he was. Brah is HUGE. There's a pic of him in my MuscleMag column this month too looking monstrous.

You mean the January musclemag? And who exactly are you? (Or is it called "GHGut's Column"?)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: GHGut on January 26, 2008, 03:08:41 PM
You mean the January musclemag? And who exactly are you? (Or is it called "GHGut's Column"?)

My name is Tony (Monchinski). The column used to be called Hardcore East. They renamed it East Coast Review some time back. Its issue 310 with Mike O'Hearn on the cover.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 26, 2008, 03:14:07 PM
Hi, Tony :)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: GHGut on January 26, 2008, 03:34:36 PM
Hi, Tony :)
Hello! Gotta go give my kid a bath. Peace all.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Hedgehog on January 27, 2008, 01:42:09 AM
NPC competitor Jeff Long (not to be confused with the IFBB pro of the same name) has added a TON of size from last year's nationals. He's moved up from heavyweight to superheavyweight. Very impressive mass, and I think he's only about 5'6 and 24 years old.

I don't know what's up with this last guy's face.

I'd say he's worthy of the moniker "Box" as well.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Parker on January 27, 2008, 06:11:08 AM
I'd say he's worthy of the moniker "Box" as well.

I was thinking the same, if it were a competition between him and a Volvo for best in "boxy-ness", it would be a toss up.
 If if ever wins his pro card, you know to be ashame to ever admit you'd follow bodybuilding. 
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 27, 2008, 06:45:36 AM
I was thinking the same, if it were a competition between him and a Volvo for best in "boxy-ness", it would be a toss up.
 If if ever wins his pro card, you know to be ashame to ever admit you'd follow bodybuilding. 

We can't all have your classical aesthetic physique, "Parker" ::)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: kiwiol on January 27, 2008, 07:40:22 AM
LOL @ some of the beasts here smirking at the guy's physique ::) - great arms (esp forearms) and legs
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 27, 2008, 07:44:13 AM
LOL @ some of the beasts here smirking at the guy's physique ::) - great arms (esp forearms) and legs

Kiwiol, are you saying that "Parker" isn't a 280 pound beast with 5% bodyfat, 24 inch arms, and 60 inch quads???????

Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BayGBM on January 27, 2008, 07:47:47 AM
Lots of muscle, but why such tiny posing trunks?  Does he even have a penis?  :-[
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 27, 2008, 07:57:57 AM
Lots of muscle, but why such tiny posing trunks?  Does he even have a penis?  :-[

Must it always be about the penis bro ???

The most noticeable thing in the last two pics is how he has one arm significantly larger (and redder?!) than the other.

If it is synthol, why would he shoot up one arm and not the other?! ??? If it isn't what happened there?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Colossus_1986 on January 27, 2008, 08:14:04 AM
Must it always be about the penis bro ???

The most noticeable thing in the last two pics is how he has one arm significantly larger (and redder?!) than the other.

If it is synthol, why would he shoot up one arm and not the other?! ??? If it isn't what happened there?

maybe swelling / water retention from a bad injection... redness would be the biggest factor pointing to that scenario... as for one being smaller, well if synthol is involved... i wouldn't know...but that shit has a tendency to mess up everything, so it might have dissipated in one arm, but pooled in the other? i think thats a possibility.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Parker on January 27, 2008, 08:21:26 AM
We can't all have your classical aesthetic physique, "Parker" ::)

No, you can't.... ;).

But, seriously, you guys think this dude is the end all be all. Shit, I ain't nowhere near that weight, nor do I aspire to. John Sherman or Darian Bond is more like it.
 Dude is 260 at 5'6, and a waist wider than both his legs put together. Hell, I'm 5'5 and I could imagine how my life would be at 260. Especially after I re-read Flex's book.


LOL @ some of the beasts here smirking at the guy's physique ::) - great arms (esp forearms) and legs
That's all you saw, cause that is all I saw as well.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 27, 2008, 08:28:41 AM
No, you can't.... ;).

But, seriously, you guys think this dude is the end all be all. Shit, I ain't nowhere near that weight, nor do I aspire to. John Sherman or Darian Bond is more like it.
 Dude is 260 at 5'6, and a waist wider than both his legs put together. Hell, I'm 5'5 and I could imagine how my life would be at 260. Especially after I re-read Flex's book.

 That's all you saw, cause that is all I saw as well.

More like 280 at 5'6.. beast!!!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Benny B on January 27, 2008, 08:38:48 AM
This guy looks terrible.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: kiwiol on January 27, 2008, 10:02:45 AM
Kiwiol, are you saying that "Parker" isn't a 280 pound beast with 5% bodyfat, 24 inch arms, and 60 inch quads???????

The numbers seem right, but I think they've been mismatched - from what Parker says, it looks like he's 24% bodyfat with 5 inch arms, 60 inch waist and weighs 280 lbs if you also take his husband's weight into consideration ;D
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on May 28, 2008, 06:21:29 PM
Now under Dave Palumbo's mentoring, Jeff is going to compete as a heavyweight in the Junior Nats in Chicago.

Will Palumbo bring him in well-conditioned? He already has the size, he needs to refine it.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: donthate1 on May 29, 2008, 05:29:51 AM
Now under Dave Palumbo's mentoring, Jeff is going to compete as a heavyweight in the Junior Nats in Chicago.

Will Palumbo bring him in well-conditioned? He already has the size, he needs to refine it.

Do you mean he will compete as a superheavy at Jr. Nats?

This kid could be the complete package if he comes in around 3% bf for the show.  I look forward to seeing pics of the show!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on May 29, 2008, 05:42:07 AM
Do you mean he will compete as a superheavy at Jr. Nats?

This kid could be the complete package if he comes in around 3% bf for the show.  I look forward to seeing pics of the show!

Don't quote me on the weight class bud...

He's massive and short, 5'6... midsection could be an issue but Palumbo may be able to work on that.

Are you going to see Trey compete? :) BTW, if Jeff is a superheavy, you think he is a threat to Trey?
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: The Master on May 29, 2008, 05:43:27 AM
BTW, if Jeff is a superheavy, you think he is a threat to Trey?

He can be if he uses Arnold tactics. All he needs is to bring a lunchTrey with donuts along with him, and Trey = teh fucced.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: donthate1 on May 29, 2008, 06:16:40 AM
Don't quote me on the weight class bud...

He's massive and short, 5'6... midsection could be an issue but Palumbo may be able to work on that.

Are you going to see Trey compete? :) BTW, if Jeff is a superheavy, you think he is a threat to Trey?

I will not be at the Jr. Nats to see Trey compete, I have prior arrangements.  However, I will more than likely be at the USA's.

This kid looks to be pretty tough, and I am sure as he leans out he will be even more impressive.  If he's 5'6" and competing at superheavy, that's huge.  It's tough to compare someone that is 5'6" to 6' on stage.  I look forward to the side by side pics of Jeff and Trey. 

Not to take anything away from Jeff, but I am still sticking with Trey!
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Fortress on May 29, 2008, 08:22:02 AM
Huge with full muscle bellies. BUT ... he looks very unwell. His gains in mass have been too fast (with little attributable to actual hard training) and he's heading for trouble.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: BayGBM on May 29, 2008, 08:32:38 AM
A clip of Jeff (requires QuickTime).  Scroll down and hit the blue "High Definition720" indicator.

http://www.usamuscle.com/vidclips/detail.asp?VidClipID=9810&Size=hd720&pok=1
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Ex Coelis on May 29, 2008, 08:37:06 AM
looks more balanced than Trey
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: TrueGrit on May 29, 2008, 10:31:50 AM
Lots of muscle, but why such tiny posing trunks?  Does he even have a penis?  :-[

Lol. Bring back the big, thick trunks that covered the whole ass (and don't let them roll them up into their crack)
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Steelrabbitt on May 29, 2008, 11:11:50 AM
Looks gigantic 2 me for his age, some muscle maturity would help if he lives that long.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Jeffro on May 29, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
not the prettiest physique but big dude
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: Matt C on May 29, 2008, 11:45:53 AM
A clip of Jeff (requires QuickTime).  Scroll down and hit the blue "High Definition720" indicator.

http://www.usamuscle.com/vidclips/detail.asp?VidClipID=9810&Size=hd720&pok=1

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=181263.0;attach=254828;image)

Smooth, but nothing that more dieting couldn't fix.  Absolutely huge.
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: THEBOSS on May 29, 2008, 01:10:52 PM
 8) 2008 version of TIM BELKNAP !
Title: Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
Post by: columbusdude82 on May 29, 2008, 03:59:07 PM
Am I the only one who noticed the holes in his arms in that video?