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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Tom on November 19, 2007, 01:40:05 PM
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just wondering if one can keep in the refrigerator bottles of aas ( i know of the infamous cutler scene from one of his dvd's where showing his refrigerator and it's food content in plain sight are rows of bottled "supplements" )? if so, for how long before they "go bad" or do they?
thanks in advance for comments!
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Only mixed HGH and HCG need go in refrig.
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hey trab, but still wondering, then if you don't have to freeze/refrigerate any aas, how long will it keep out in the open? would freezing it keep it longer? can aas go bad after time?
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hey trab, but still wondering, then if you don't have to freeze/refrigerate any aas, how long will it keep out in the open? would freezing it keep it longer? can aas go bad after time?
This comes from my experiences with one of my former employers who put every drug in his hospital in the refrigerator and if the drugs were close to expiring he would freeze them because that "made them last longer". Personally I think he was full of shit and we argued about it quite a bit.
Freezing can actually cause crystalization of oil based drugs forcing whats in them out of suspension and crystalizing on the bottom of the bottle---sometimes so bad, it won't go back into suspension when the bottle is warmed up.
If you refrigerate an oil based drug, they will turn a milky white as a result of ultrafine air bubbles getting trapped in the oil. The only way to get the bubbles out is to warm the oil up to room temperature and wait.
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This comes from my experiences with one of my former employers who put every drug in his hospital in the refrigerator and if the drugs were close to expiring he would freeze them because that "made them last longer". Personally I think he was full of shit and we argued about it quite a bit.
Freezing can actually cause crystalization of oil based drugs forcing whats in them out of suspension and crystalizing on the bottom of the bottle---sometimes so bad, it won't go back into suspension when the bottle is warmed up.
If you refrigerate an oil based drug, they will turn a milky white as a result of ultrafine air bubbles getting trapped in the oil. The only way to get the bubbles out is to warm the oil up to room temperature and wait.
Vet,So its pointless to refrigerate it? Thats my feelings. Ive had the issues you describe just storing it in the cold.
It lasts a long time in the sealed unopened vial? (I've read up to 10years?)
How long its safe if opened and noncontaminated is a question I dont know.
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IMO - there's no point to freezing or refridgerating any AAS. If anything just keep them in a dark/cool place.
As for what vet said about the crystalization - I've seen it first hand.
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Vet,So its pointless to refrigerate it? Thats my feelings. Ive had the issues you describe just storing it in the cold.
It lasts a long time in the sealed unopened vial? (I've read up to 10years?)
How long its safe if opened and noncontaminated is a question I dont know.
Generally speaking all drugs should be stored at the temperature indicated by the manufacturer. That said, MOST oil based drugs are stored at room temperature and most water based are refrigerated.
The expiration date is the longest date from manufacture that the drug will have a known activity. After the expiration date, the drug begins to break down and there is no guarantee that they have the same degree of activity--meaning a higher dose may be needed if you are taking it past the expiration date or that there will be no effect from the drug. That said, most oil based drugs have a shelf life of 1-3 years, with certian hormones being shorter (depoprogesterone for example) and some being longer (depoestradiol). Most water based drugs have shelf lifes of 6 months to 4 years. Again this varies dramatically by individual drug. There is also no gaurantee on how long after expiration a drug is "effective". Realistically, if its only a month, maybe two months expired for an oil based drug, its doubtful that you will notice a significant decrease in effect. If its 6 months, there will probably be decreased activty, but the strength of the placebo effect will probably carry it through. No one that I'm aware of evaluates drugs past the expiration date, so its all an anecdotal guess.
As far home brewed, homemade drug concoctions, I have no idea what a reasonable shelf life would be. Realistically, its probably a year, maybe longer for oil based drugs if the drug is made in a reasonably stable environment and stored in a cool, dry place (ie a dark closet). If there are any signs of crystals, films, seperation, or discoloration, it stands to reason its either contaminated or its destabilized and isn't as effective (or safe to use).