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So ending my long cycle of 600 test 700 tren and no probs AT ALL throughout cycle. Gained a good 35-40lb and super happy with results.
I had an operation a day before my last tren/test shot and was under general anesthetic. Doc perscribed a pain med (toridol) and an antibiotic (Cephalex). Other than gaining some more weight (from eating like I always have and not working/exercising) nothing else has changed. Still finnishing the same vial of test E.
3 days after the operation my nipples got sensitive. It's been a few days now and I just finnished my last antibiotic today and they're still sensitive to push on. I'm gonna hit the nolva today but I was wondering what might have caused this. My last shot of test was on Tuesday.
Any thoughs?
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I think it just took a while for gyno to come on, with the accumulation of the gear. kind of strange that it took so long. You need to get on some either adex or letro. I prefer adex. Knock out the estrogen and dont play around with nolva, You should save that for PCT! Pain killers and antibiotics will not cause gyno.
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It's possible... but test E has a half life at 21days (3 weeks) so by week 12, the original week that WAS 600mg is now about 37.5mg and the process starts all over. By 12 weeks I should have as much test in my system as I ever will if I keep the dose consistent.
There are just too many changes in the last week for me to write this off as late onset. Next run will be 1200mg EW so atleast I know what gyno feels like.
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If it were me, and all I had wass Nolva, I;d be throwing that at it (60,40,20..).
Id also be express shiping some Adex or Letro.
It dont matter waht cause it. Any combo can. Knock it down hard & fast is what counts.
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It's possible... but test E has a half life at 21days (3 weeks) so by week 12, the original week that WAS 600mg is now about 37.5mg and the process starts all over. By 12 weeks I should have as much test in my system as I ever will if I keep the dose consistent.
There are just too many changes in the last week for me to write this off as late onset. Next run will be 1200mg EW so atleast I know what gyno feels like.
Pain killers and antibiotics dont cause gyno. I have never had any symptoms of gyno until this last cycle I ran, and it was a pretty light cycle for me. My left nipple got pretty sore and adex knocked it right out. My last cycle was just 750mg test and a kicker of dbol after two weeks. I ran it for 20 weeks and just got the symptoms after week 10 or 11(Ill need to look at my log to be exactly accurate). I was off the dbol when the symptoms occured, and Ive used dbol before with no problems. Good luck brotha! Adex all the way.
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Narcotic painkillers do lower testo, my endocrinologist notes it. This is prolly not going to be a issue for short term user.
Any number of combinations or diet or other body reactions could cause gyno on an identical cycle tahts
never been a problem in the past....
Thats why its smart to have a selection of Nolva, Adex, letro etc.
Adex + Nolva was a real favorite when Adex 1st hit the market, and it was God awefull expensive.
Before that there was only Nolva, and before that NOTHING.
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Running Adex, my guy had it in stock and it was same price as nolva. $100 for 100 tabs @ .5mg
Just finished day 1 and I already feel better.
running a MG /day for 3 days divided into 4 doses.
Thanks.
And thanks Trab for the good info
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Running Adex, my guy had it in stock and it was same price as nolva. $100 for 100 tabs @ .5mg
Just finished day 1 and I already feel better.
running a MG /day for 3 days divided into 4 doses.
Thanks.
And thanks Trab for the good info
No need to divide the dose. 1mg ed adex should do the trick, unless your body converts estrogen at a higher rate than normal. Take the dose every day and dont skip days. If you forget a dose take it as soon as possible, but dont double up on doses on the same day.
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So ending my long cycle of 600 test 700 tren and no probs AT ALL throughout cycle. Gained a good 35-40lb and super happy with results.
I had an operation a day before my last tren/test shot and was under general anesthetic. Doc perscribed a pain med (toridol) and an antibiotic (Cephalex). Other than gaining some more weight (from eating like I always have and not working/exercising) nothing else has changed. Still finnishing the same vial of test E.
3 days after the operation my nipples got sensitive. It's been a few days now and I just finnished my last antibiotic today and they're still sensitive to push on. I'm gonna hit the nolva today but I was wondering what might have caused this. My last shot of test was on Tuesday.
Any thoughs?
35-40 lbs!! Man thats good! How much of it would you say is muscle?
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35-40 lbs!! Man thats good! How much of it would you say is muscle?
Come on Luv, is this a necessary question? After all, no one on getbig ever gains any fat, lol!!!
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Come on Luv, is this a necessary question? After all, no one on getbig ever gains any fat, lol!!!
;D
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Come on Luv, is this a necessary question? After all, no one on getbig ever gains any fat, lol!!!
I am pretty sure I gained some fat yesterday! And love every pound of it!
All those calories means leg day tomorrow will be fun. :D
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I am pretty sure I gained some fat yesterday! And love every pound of it!
All those calories means leg day tomorrow will be fun. :D
I actually didn't eat any thanksgiving dinner yesterday. I had planned on it, but when it came time to eat it, I just wasn't in the mood at all.
You know, if I'm not dieting, I have very few cravings for any thing that would be considered "cheat" food. So it's kind of gotten to the point that if I'm not really in the mood for it, I just don't eat it.
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Since we've turned this thread into a discussion about food I guess I'll chime in. I ate a good portion of traditional thanksgiving food yesterday (wasn't the best because I was at work) & then about a pound or so of deep fried turkey. Anyway, when I got home I ended drinking a bottle of wine (by accident) while watching a couple movies. Anyway, after all that I ended up weighing 1 pound less then the day before. Very interesting.
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35-40 lbs would be pretty clean and lean. I started out at about 232lbs and 17% BF giving me a total Lean mass of 190lbs. Ended cycle at 250 even (majority of the cycle was spent at 250 but body composition changed DRASTICALLY) and about 12% BF =220lb
So 30lbs of solid gain. The operation really threw me for a loop and the week before the operation we had a big even at work that I ended up skipping an entire week of training for because of my commitment and then came the operation so I had to take a week off for that too. Gained 12lb of fat this past week to tip the scales at 262 (YIKES).
I kept track of most of my stats.
Arms up 2 inches (cold)
Bench up nearly 100lbs
squat up just over 100lbs
overall I looked damn good. Can't wait till round 2 when I run a real bulk cycle/diet
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Narcotic painkillers do lower testo, my endocrinologist notes it. This is prolly not going to be a issue for short term user.
Yeah, but Toradol is an NSAID, not a narcotic. Neither of those drugs (toradol or Cephalexin) should have caused the symptoms seen.
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I still have no idea what it was... It's important to note that I gained 12lb of fat/fluids after surgery and I went from HIGHLY active (10 hours a day on my feet + DC training) to nadda. Was quite a shock on my body!