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Title: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: body88 on November 26, 2007, 07:36:59 AM
MIAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was in critical condition after he was shot at his Florida home Monday, police said.



 
Taylor

Miami-Dade County police officers were dispatched to Taylor's home at about 1:45 a.m. and found him shot. He was then airlifted to Jackson Memorial Hospital, police Detective Alvaro Zabaleta said. He didn't know where on Taylor's body he was shot.

The Miami Herald reported paramedics found Taylor with a gunshot wound to the groin. A family friend who did not want to be identified told ABC-TV 10 in Miami that Taylor was shot twice.

A brief statement from the Redskins said Taylor was undergoing treatment at the Miami hospital and that police were investigating. His family has asked that no information about his condition be released at this point, said hospital spokeswoman Lorraine Nelson.

Taylor has a home in the Miami suburb of Palmetto Bay that he bought for $900,000 two years ago.

Taylor, 24, is in his fourth season with the Redskins after playing at the University of Miami, where he was an All-American in 2003. He leads the team with five interceptions but has missed the last two games with a knee injury.

In 2005, Taylor was accused of brandishing a gun at a man and repeatedly hitting him during a fight that broke out after Taylor and some friends went looking for the people who had allegedly stolen his all-terrain vehicles.

Taylor reached a deal with prosecutors last year after they agreed to drop felony charges against him. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors in the assault case and was sentenced to 18 months probation.

The man, Ryan Hill, also sued, seeking at least $15,000 in damages. Hill suffered bruising to his body, incurred medical expenses and lost wages because of the fight, the lawsuit said.

Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: mass 04 on November 26, 2007, 08:10:59 AM
I read on ESPN he was shot in the groin. I hope he is ok, IF this was a robbery attempt this is probably becoming a new trend. It has happened to a few NBA players.
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on November 26, 2007, 09:04:55 AM
Fucking guy had all the talent in the world to be one of the best ever but he can't stay away from trouble in any capacity.

Nevertheless, my prayers go out to him and his family.
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: body88 on November 26, 2007, 09:06:06 AM
Fucking guy had all the talent in the world to be one of the best ever but he can't stay away from trouble in any capacity.

Nevertheless, my prayers go out to him and his family.



MIAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was in critical condition after he was shot at his Florida home Monday, police said.



 
Taylor

Miami-Dade County police officers were dispatched to Taylor's home at about 1:45 a.m. and found him shot. He was then airlifted to Jackson Memorial Hospital, police Detective Alvaro Zabaleta said. He didn't know where on Taylor's body he was shot.

The Miami Herald reported paramedics found Taylor with a gunshot wound to the groin. A family friend who did not want to be identified told ABC-TV 10 in Miami that Taylor was shot twice.

A brief statement from the Redskins said Taylor was undergoing treatment at the Miami hospital and that police were investigating. His family has asked that no information about his condition be released at this point, said hospital spokeswoman Lorraine Nelson.

Taylor has a home in the Miami suburb of Palmetto Bay that he bought for $900,000 two years ago.

Taylor, 24, is in his fourth season with the Redskins after playing at the University of Miami, where he was an All-American in 2003. He leads the team with five interceptions but has missed the last two games with a knee injury.

In 2005, Taylor was accused of brandishing a gun at a man and repeatedly hitting him during a fight that broke out after Taylor and some friends went looking for the people who had allegedly stolen his all-terrain vehicles.

Taylor reached a deal with prosecutors last year after they agreed to drop felony charges against him. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors in the assault case and was sentenced to 18 months probation.

The man, Ryan Hill, also sued, seeking at least $15,000 in damages. Hill suffered bruising to his body, incurred medical expenses and lost wages because of the fight, the lawsuit said.

Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: Option D on November 26, 2007, 09:32:43 AM
Fighting for his life.  He was shot in Florida. My prayers go out to him. Lets hope he pulls through.Terrible.

MIAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was in critical condition after he was shot at his Florida home Monday, police said.



 
Taylor

Miami-Dade County police officers were dispatched to Taylor's home at about 1:45 a.m. and found him shot. He was then airlifted to Jackson Memorial Hospital, police Detective Alvaro Zabaleta said. He didn't know where on Taylor's body he was shot.

The Miami Herald reported paramedics found Taylor with a gunshot wound to the groin. A family friend who did not want to be identified told ABC-TV 10 in Miami that Taylor was shot twice.

A brief statement from the Redskins said Taylor was undergoing treatment at the Miami hospital and that police were investigating. His family has asked that no information about his condition be released at this point, said hospital spokeswoman Lorraine Nelson.

Taylor has a home in the Miami suburb of Palmetto Bay that he bought for $900,000 two years ago.

Taylor, 24, is in his fourth season with the Redskins after playing at the University of Miami, where he was an All-American in 2003. He leads the team with five interceptions but has missed the last two games with a knee injury.

In 2005, Taylor was accused of brandishing a gun at a man and repeatedly hitting him during a fight that broke out after Taylor and some friends went looking for the people who had allegedly stolen his all-terrain vehicles.

Taylor reached a deal with prosecutors last year after they agreed to drop felony charges against him. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors in the assault case and was sentenced to 18 months probation.

The man, Ryan Hill, also sued, seeking at least $15,000 in damages. Hill suffered bruising to his body, incurred medical expenses and lost wages because of the fight, the lawsuit said.




Nothing having to deal with him getting shot last night.
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 26, 2007, 09:48:01 AM
Sounds like a scorned woman, shooting him in the dick.

Fuck that must be agony
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 26, 2007, 10:35:05 AM
I hope Sean is good and comes back but Miami players are getting into trouble. I always try to avoid Miami at all costs. I believe some of the players last year pulled out guns at the house they were staying at.  Sean is a great player and with his work ethic and skill he will be back.
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on November 26, 2007, 11:07:48 AM
This doesn't like a situation that will allow him to resume his playing career. Reports state that the femoral artery in his leg was severed due to the gunshot wound.(reports also state he was shot twice in the groin region.) That's the leg's biggest artery and the one that carries the most blood from the heart to the lower extremities.

That's major. He's listed in critical condition due to the amount of blood loss, no doubt.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we'll see Taylor back on the field if the reports are confirmed.

All the reports are preliminary so far so I REALLY hope I'm wrong. I enjoyed watching him play.
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 26, 2007, 11:16:53 AM
Sounds like a scorned woman, shooting him in the dick.

Fuck that must be agony

That is what i am hearing. It may be over a ex g/f but i still hope that he will come back and play.
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: Butterbean on November 26, 2007, 01:29:44 PM


"It was clearly a burglary, an armed burglary," Sharpstein said, adding nothing appeared to have been stolen.

 ???
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: blinky on November 26, 2007, 03:27:56 PM
Sounds like a scorned woman, shooting him in the dick.

Fuck that must be agony

yup. man gets shot in the twig n berries......obviously a scorned woman
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: Geo on November 26, 2007, 04:01:21 PM

Nothing having to deal with him getting shot last night.

actually it does have something to do with him gettin shot,you wanna run around like a "thug lowlife" chances are you're running around WITH other "thug low lifes"

you lay down with dogs and you're gonna get fleas !
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: Option D on November 26, 2007, 04:34:05 PM
actually it does have something to do with him gettin shot,you wanna run around like a "thug lowlife" chances are you're running around WITH other "thug low lifes"

you lay down with dogs and you're gonna get fleas !

how do you know that was related....antone walker was robbed in his house and he has never been in any off or on court trouble, darrent williams, shot and killed but he wasnt a thug. That last part was unneeded and thats why he dosent talk to the media
Title: Re: Redkins Sean Taylor Shot
Post by: pumpster on November 26, 2007, 05:20:28 PM
Silly assumptions; could've been someone trying to make it look like it was a scorned woman-he'd had a break in a week earlier, anything could've been up.


Redskins' Taylor Responsive After Surgery for Gunshot Wound

MIAMI, Nov. 27 -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was responsive and squeezed the hand of a doctor tonight, after seven hours of surgery for a gunshot wound suffered at his home early Monday.

"He was responsive to the doctor's requests to squeeze his hands and showed facial expressions. The doctors were very happy about that," Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins vice president of football operations, said in a telephone interview shortly after 7 p.m. "Two doctors came and told us they were excited about that."

Taylor had been described as "non-responsive and unconscious," and doctors were "worried about a possible brain injury" caused by the loss of oxygen to the brain, according to Richard Sharpstein, who has represented Taylor in legal matters in the past. Taylor had flat-lined twice during surgery, a team source said.

Taylor was hospitalized after police received a 1:45 a.m. call from a woman inside Taylor's residence saying that a man had been shot in the affluent suburb of Palmetto Bay, Miami-Dade police officials said. Ambulance crews found the 24-year-old defensive star struck in the lower extremities, Lt. Nancy Perez said.

Taylor was flown to the Ryder Trauma Center of Jackson Memorial Hospital, where he underwent surgery. Perez said police had not yet been able to speak with him to confirm how the shooting occurred.

"It could have been a possible burglary, it could have been a possible robbery. It has not been confirmed as yet," Perez told The Washington Post. She said she could not say how many shots had been fired or whether there were signs of forced entry.

Sharpstein said Taylor's responses Monday night provided "a great ray of sunshine, but we're not out of the woods yet. The doctors are still guarded about the diagnosis. Until he comes to and speaks and recognizes people, they are going to be guarded, but this was obviously a very positive sign and a recognition of a command."

Taylor is in intensive care, Sharpstein said.

Taylor's condition had improved dramatically from earlier in the day. "Right now, he's clinging to life and we're all praying he makes it," Sharpstein had said shortly after 3 p.m.

According to Sharpstein, Taylor was sleeping when he heard a noise in the living room. Taylor reached for some large knife such as a machete that he keeps nearby in case of emergency, and when he encountered the intruder two shots were fired, with one striking his leg.

Police on Monday were interviewing Taylor's fiancee and several other relatives who were in the house to try to determine what precipitated the shooting. It was not immediately clear whether the people were relatives of Taylor or of his girlfriend.

The Associated Press reported that another invasion was reported at Taylor's home eight days ago. According to police records, someone pried open a front window, rifled through his drawers and left a kitchen knife on a bed.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: body88 on November 27, 2007, 04:35:14 AM
Taylor passed away today at 5 am. What a terrible tragedy. RIP Sean. Prayers go out to his family and friends.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 27, 2007, 05:00:56 AM
Damn. I just shead a tear and i still cannot believe this. I thought we would see Taylor back on the field. My prayers go out to his family and friends.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: K-1 on November 27, 2007, 05:57:57 AM
wow.....very, very sad.

RIP sean.

Condolences to the family.

Sad thing is, they prob won't even find the killer. Still haven't found Pata DL from Miami U killer down here either.

just sad to walk into anyones home (or anywhere) and have it go down like that.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Quickerblade on November 27, 2007, 06:03:40 AM
Miami P.D better get on this quick, they have to narrow it down to black people, cause its a fact it was a black person that did this...
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: K-1 on November 27, 2007, 06:10:55 AM
Miami P.D better get on this quick, they have to narrow it down to black people, cause its a fact it was a black person that did this...

his dad is like a police captain I believe. From what I've heard his home was just broken into and stuff ravaged through, door kicked in and they left a damn knife on the guys bed like 8 days ago.

still early but that's some crazy stuff. I don't think I would have went back. fk that. He probably couldn't carry a gun because of his past issues...i'm sure they knew that also.

crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Butterbean on November 27, 2007, 06:33:29 AM
very sad  :(

From what I've heard his home was just broken into and stuff ravaged through, door kicked in and they left a damn knife on the guys bed like 8 days ago.

still early but that's some crazy stuff. I don't think I would have went back. fk that. He probably couldn't carry a gun because of his past issues...i'm sure they knew that also.

crazy stuff.

If this is true seems like he would have turned on his alarm system or installed one if he didn't have one.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: K-1 on November 27, 2007, 07:11:17 AM
very sad  :(

If this is true seems like he would have turned on his alarm system or installed one if he didn't have one.

I know where is the home alarm installation asap. Plus his dad was in law enforcement so i'm sure advice was given. They also cut the guys phone lines. His fiancee couldn't even call the cops because of that.

wow
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2007, 07:22:50 AM
Fuck, He was my favorite Safety by far, I loved his attitude, play on the field the whole 9.

RIP Sean Taylor one of the best.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on November 27, 2007, 08:24:26 AM
That kid was one hell of a player. What a devastating loss for his family, teammates, and friends.  :'(

Makes you wonder why he wasn't with his teammates after they left Tampa Bay on Sunday. I read coach Gibbs allowed him to stay behind because of the burglary of his house week prior.

Plus, his dad was a police chief in Florida. Why wouldn't have tried to discourage his son from staying at a house that was burglarized a week ago?? Plus, shouldn't there have been police surveillance since the house was previously broken into? I mean, Taylor was a high profile athlete and is dad works as a police chief in the surrounding area.

Something isn't right with that whole situation.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: body88 on November 27, 2007, 08:29:28 AM
That kid was one hell of a player. What a devastating loss for his family, teammates, and friends.  :'(

Makes you wonder why he wasn't with his teammates after they left Tampa Bay on Sunday. I read coach Gibbs allowed him to stay behind because of the burglary of his house week prior.

Plus, his dad was a police chief in Florida. Why wouldn't have tried to discourage his son from staying at a house that was burglarized a week ago?? Plus, shouldn't there have been police surveillance since the house was previously broken into? I mean, Taylor was a high profile athlete and is dad works as a police chief in the surrounding area.

Something isn't right with that whole situation.


He was in Miami getting a second opinion on his knee at the time of the trajedy.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: mass 04 on November 27, 2007, 08:58:50 AM
RIP, what a senseless crime. Terrible
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on November 27, 2007, 09:01:09 AM

He was in Miami getting a second opinion on his knee at the time of the trajedy.

That doesn't seem plausible. A second opinion on his knee? Since when do pro football players go outside of their team doctors and physicians? He was just resting the injury and was scheduled to return to the team in a couple of weeks. (I'm not that far from DC so I get all the team's localized news reports just like the Ravens.)

I read the reason he was down there was to look after his house after it was burglarized a week ago. He asked coach Gibbs for permission to do so and it was granted. That's why he wasn't on the team flight back to DC.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2007, 09:03:45 AM
That doesn't seem plausible. A second opinion on his knee? Since when do pro football players go outside of their team doctors and physicians? He was just resting the injury and was scheduled to return to the team in a couple of weeks. (I'm not that far from DC so I get all the team's localized news reports just like the Ravens.)

I read the reason he was down there was to look after his house after it was burglarized a week ago. He asked coach Gibbs for permission to do so and it was granted. That's why he wasn't on the team flight back to DC.

Shittin me right...They go outside of team doctors all the time...there is an ACL guy that is in Alabama that they damn near ALL go to. Spikes was the last guy to go there...There are MDs who are like the best in this area or that area. They get second opinions all the time
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on November 27, 2007, 09:10:41 AM
Shittin me right...They go outside of team doctors all the time...there is an ACL guy that is in Alabama that they damn near ALL go to. Spikes was the last guy to go there...There are MDs who are like the best in this area or that area. They get second opinions all the time


Oh, I agree with you. I just meant for non-season ending type injuries(minor). He was only supposed to miss a few games and the last I heard he was just resting the injury. I wasn't disagreeing with the players seeking second opinions. I just meant to say that the injury wasn't serious enough for him to miss extended time so why would he be seeking a second opinion.

Sorry, I should have clarified myself.

His knee injury was diagnosed as a sprain initially. He was originally due back on the field in a week according to team reports and the local news.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2007, 09:12:57 AM
Oh, I agree with you. I just meant for non-season ending type injuries. He was only supposed to miss a few games and the last I heard he was just resting the injury.

Sorry, I should have clarified myself.

His knee injury was diagnosed as a sprain initially. He was due back on the field in a couple of weeks according to team reports and the local news.

oh i gotcha...yeah for season ending shit/rehab they go to the specialist guy, but for youre right, they go to the team ortho for sprains and shit.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on November 27, 2007, 09:23:08 AM
It sucks but the show must go on as they say.

It's going to be an extremely emotional day on Sunday for the Redskins home game against the Bills. I get the Redskins games locally so I'll be tuning in. No question, I'll be shedding a tear. Going to be hard not to.

Holy shit, is that going to be tough for the fans and players. A tribute, moment of silence, the whole nine yards.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2007, 09:31:30 AM
It sucks but the show must go on as they say.

It's going to be an extremely emotional day on Sunday for the Redskins home game against the Bills. I get the Redskins games locally so I'll be tuning in. No question, I'll be shedding a tear. Going to be hard not to.

Holy shit, is that going to be tough for the fans and players. A tribute, moment of silence, the whole nine yards.


yeah man, he was very likeable and way to young...
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: rockyfortune on November 27, 2007, 09:41:10 AM
this whole situation seems odd..the multiple break ins---the person breaking into his bedroom...one thinks that if someone is trying to rob a house they'd do it when no one is around and the last place they are going to go into is the bedroom where the owner is sleeping...no sensible thief would even risk getting his ass shot off...and what thief goes in strapped---i'm thinking there is a whole lot more to this whole story than we are hearing.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: body88 on November 27, 2007, 10:22:56 AM
That doesn't seem plausible. A second opinion on his knee? Since when do pro football players go outside of their team doctors and physicians? He was just resting the injury and was scheduled to return to the team in a couple of weeks. (I'm not that far from DC so I get all the team's localized news reports just like the Ravens.)

I read the reason he was down there was to look after his house after it was burglarized a week ago. He asked coach Gibbs for permission to do so and it was granted. That's why he wasn't on the team flight back to DC.

No idea bro. Thats one of the things I had heard. Could be 100 percent wrong.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Earl1972 on November 27, 2007, 10:24:36 AM
greatest college safety I ever saw, he cost larry fitzgerald the heisman

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Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on November 27, 2007, 10:32:12 AM
this whole situation seems odd..the multiple break ins---the person breaking into his bedroom...one thinks that if someone is trying to rob a house they'd do it when no one is around and the last place they are going to go into is the bedroom where the owner is sleeping...no sensible thief would even risk getting his ass shot off...and what thief goes in strapped---i'm thinking there is a whole lot more to this whole story than we are hearing.

All of the details will unfold soon enough, I'm sure. We'll all probably know twice as much info tomorrow as we did today.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2007, 10:34:34 AM
greatest college safety I ever saw, he cost larry fitzgerald the heisman

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between him and reed...but i think i liked Taylor better

Size
Speed
Range (could close on anything any where)
run support
Ball hawk
Bring the Wood...

this dude had it all..
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Earl1972 on November 27, 2007, 10:47:22 AM
between him and reed...but i think i liked Taylor better

Size
Speed
Range (could close on anything any where)
run support
Ball hawk
Bring the Wood...

this dude had it all..

kiper said he was the best safety prospect in over 20 years, safeties never get picked top 5

he made the pro bowl last year and was starting to show his potential

E
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: rockyfortune on November 27, 2007, 10:55:01 AM
kiper said he was the best safety prospect in over 20 years, safeties never get picked top 5

he made the pro bowl last year and was starting to show his potential

E


eric turner was the last to be picked that high..sadly, he's dead too...lesson to be learned: don't pick a safety in the top 5 picks..chances are he'll die.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Geo on November 27, 2007, 10:56:01 AM
They also cut the guys phone lines. His fiancee couldn't even call the cops because of that.


they're called cell phones and there's no wires attached to them
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Quickerblade on November 27, 2007, 11:46:59 AM
they're called cell phones and there's no wires attached to them
Good call Geo..
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2007, 12:39:52 PM

eric turner was the last to be picked that high..sadly, he's dead too...lesson to be learned: don't pick a safety in the top 5 picks..chances are he'll die.


Ok seriously ill give you some of the scoop on Eric Turner. Dude is from Venrura county but really Oxnard...he is related to my Mothers good friend. The story is that while still in high school (Ventura) that he was getting gear from his coach in high amounts....and he used them through his tenure at ucla and into the browns/ravens....But nonetheless  he was a hell of a ball player though...pride of ventura, him and Randall Cunningham
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: K-1 on November 27, 2007, 01:39:50 PM
they're called cell phones and there's no wires attached to them

ok smart a$$ LOL glad to see out of all the post you go looking to be a wise a$$.  ;D

The report mentioned the dudes phone lines were cut. At least that is what I heard down here in south florida 100X's.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: pumpster on November 27, 2007, 06:04:12 PM
they're called cell phones and there's no wires attached to them

Stating the obvious, since she did in fact use a cell though it took longer as a result.

Apparently Gibbs didn't know that he was down there at some point, plus he didn't have any security or gun despite the break in earlier; something's up.

If the intent was to kill he'd have been shot 5-6 times; it was likely just payback and not intended to be fatal.

The wife and kid are extremely lucky to have gotten thru it unharmed, they were defenseless.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: CARTEL on November 27, 2007, 06:53:17 PM
Ok seriously ill give you some of the scoop on Eric Turner. Dude is from Venrura county but really Oxnard...he is related to my Mothers good friend. The story is that while still in high school (Ventura) that he was getting gear from his coach in high amounts....and he used them through his tenure at ucla and into the browns/ravens....But nonetheless  he was a hell of a ball player though...pride of ventura, him and Randall Cunningham

Randall is from Santa Barbara.

Holla!
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Geo on November 27, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
she did in fact use a cell



ya think ?
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: pumpster on November 27, 2007, 10:55:36 PM
ya think ?

Um ya we got to the cell phone AND the part you didn't know and left out, that she used one only after trying a landline, all of which delayed medical help.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: rockyfortune on November 28, 2007, 05:11:30 AM
Ok seriously ill give you some of the scoop on Eric Turner. Dude is from Venrura county but really Oxnard...he is related to my Mothers good friend. The story is that while still in high school (Ventura) that he was getting gear from his coach in high amounts....and he used them through his tenure at ucla and into the browns/ravens....But nonetheless  he was a hell of a ball player though...pride of ventura, him and Randall Cunningham



could the gear usage have caused his death...he had some form of stomach cancer did he not?
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 28, 2007, 06:44:34 AM
Randall is from Santa Barbara.

Holla!

thats still ventua county
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 28, 2007, 06:45:13 AM


could the gear usage have caused his death...he had some form of stomach cancer did he not?



see im not sure but his family sure sees to think so.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Tre on November 28, 2007, 08:51:52 AM
Ok seriously ill give you some of the scoop on Eric Turner. Dude is from Venrura county but really Oxnard...he is related to my Mothers good friend. The story is that while still in high school (Ventura) that he was getting gear from his coach in high amounts....and he used them through his tenure at ucla and into the browns/ravens....But nonetheless  he was a hell of a ball player though...pride of ventura, him and Randall Cunningham

I used to live in Camarillo.

Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Tre on November 28, 2007, 08:56:41 AM

You're a multi-millionaire - how is your home not secure?

Don't people watch TV? 

This is so, so tragic, especially given the fact that he had a little girl and hearing what people are saying about how her arrival in this world had led him to change his life for the better.



Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: body88 on November 28, 2007, 09:30:10 AM
You're a multi-millionaire - how is your home not secure?

Don't people watch TV? 

This is so, so tragic, especially given the fact that he had a little girl and hearing what people are saying about how her arrival in this world had led him to change his life for the better.





Nothing worse then wasted life and talent. It's a shame it had to happen. This is why athletes owning firearms is not always a bad idea. Legally of course.

Maybe the NFL could take a minuscule cut of there billions and provide security for its athletes if there was a reason to believe they where in danger.

Fat chance. The NFL needs to start taking better care of its players. They also need to make contracts on par with the amount of cash they are pulling in.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2007, 09:32:21 AM
This does not pass the smell test.  I suspect it was personal.  Maybe involved a woman? 
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Tre on November 28, 2007, 09:39:04 AM
This does not pass the smell test.  I suspect it was personal.  Maybe involved a woman? 

Doesn't smell good, but they say he'd been with the same girl for 6-7 years.  I'm sure he had a few on the side, but even still, I can't figure out how people were able to break into his home twice in 8 days.  Shouldn't once have been more than enough?
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 28, 2007, 09:40:02 AM
This does not pass the smell test.  I suspect it was personal.  Maybe involved a woman? 

yeah i think the same....i heard something about a knife on the pillow the week before (maybe....dont quote me)....only a broad does shit like that....
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2007, 09:42:46 AM
Doesn't smell good, but they say he'd been with the same girl for 6-7 years.  I'm sure he had a few on the side, but even still, I can't figure out how people were able to break into his home twice in 8 days.  Shouldn't once have been more than enough?

Should have been.  And I don't think burglars usually shoot people.  Must have been a very loud burglar to wake him up in the middle of the night. 
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2007, 09:44:03 AM
yeah i think the same....i heard something about a knife on the pillow the week before (maybe....dont quote me)....only a broad does shit like that....

I heard he had a machete under his bed and the girlfriend saw the shooter?  Why didn't she get shot? 
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: OneBigMan on November 28, 2007, 02:46:43 PM
This is a very serious tragedy for something like this to happen right in the middle of a NFL team's season. There is no way that the NFL shouldn't consider postponing the Washington Redskins game this Sunday. I hope the team's website will say if they are going to postpone the game.

The question I have is why would the team easily allow him to go back and forth from the teams training facility where he was receiving treatment for his injured knee. At the very least they should have told him to rejoin the team no later than Sunday since they were playing in Tampa, Florida. Another question is about the initial break in because there should have been enough of a police investigation to determine whether of not the house could be made more secure than it previously was. I don't understand why would any NFL player would feel comfortable going back to his home for any extended period after having his own property vandalised. As I read in a previous post, there have been other players who have been victims of a home invasion. The last I can easily recall is a NBA player for the Bulls if I'm correct.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: CARTEL on November 28, 2007, 05:11:32 PM
thats still ventua county

Nope. Santa Barbara is in Santa Barbara County.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: pumpster on November 28, 2007, 07:29:41 PM
This does not pass the smell test.  I suspect it was personal.  Maybe involved a woman? 

Um, everyone has known this since the news first came out.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: pumpster on November 28, 2007, 07:32:31 PM
The question I have is why would the team easily allow him to go back and forth from the teams training facility where he was receiving treatment for his injured knee. At the very least they should have told him to rejoin the team no later than Sunday since they were playing in Tampa, Florida.

Apparently Gibbs was unaware of some of his last travels.

It would be better to cancel or postpone the game, but that may not be possible as they're under tight constraints.

This will have the unforseen benny of temporarily allowing the skins season to be more easily forgotten/excused.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2007, 08:33:28 PM
Um, everyone has known this since the news first came out.

Everyone knew that Sean Taylor slept with a woman he probably shouldn't have and this resulted in his death?  Okay.   ::)
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Quickerblade on November 29, 2007, 02:37:43 AM
where did he get shot?
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 29, 2007, 08:39:40 AM
where did he get shot?
Balls
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2007, 10:22:04 AM
Balls

That's part of the reason why I think a woman, or a dispute over a woman, is somehow at the heart of this.   
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Option D on November 29, 2007, 10:23:24 AM
That's part of the reason why I think a woman, or a dispute over a woman, is somehow at the heart of this.   
love Triangle....
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: TrapsMcLats on December 01, 2007, 02:38:13 PM
Nothing worse then wasted life and talent. It's a shame it had to happen. This is why athletes owning firearms is not always a bad idea. Legally of course.

Maybe the NFL could take a minuscule cut of there billions and provide security for its athletes if there was a reason to believe they where in danger.

Fat chance. The NFL needs to start taking better care of its players. They also need to make contracts on par with the amount of cash they are pulling in.

Everything you are about to read is a rampant violation of civil rights and i only parly agree with even though i wrote it.  I do believe though, that it would be a step in the right direction:

what they need is to sit down every young black athlete they draft and explain to them how the real world works, that their upbringing was shit, to stay away from their old acquaintances, friends and 99% of their families and they need to become as white as  possible.  They should not be allowed to watch BET, MTV, VH1 or anything else that encourages or glorifies the hip hop lifestyle.  They should be forced to wear suits, have respectable haircuts and work on grammar, speech and etiquette.  They should have bed checks and live in large houses/ dormitories where the other young 1st, 2nd and 3rd year players on their team, both white and black, live.  When they are not doing football related activities they should be involved in community service or charity work like the YMCA, the boys and girls club, the spca, the humane society etc.  they should have daily meetings with team veterans who can explain to them how to lead their lives and should have weekly tests where they are tested on the knowledge they have hopefuly learned.  they should then be fined (with the money going to charity) for every answer that gets them less than an 80 percent.  If they don't want to abide by these rules then they can go work for the cfl or nfl europe
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Quickerblade on December 01, 2007, 04:32:36 PM
Everything you are about to read is a rampant violation of civil rights and i only parly agree with even though i wrote it.  I do believe though, that it would be a step in the right direction:

what they need is to sit down every young black athlete they draft and explain to them how the real world works, that their upbringing was shit, to stay away from their old acquaintances, friends and 99% of their families and they need to become as white as  possible.  They should not be allowed to watch BET, MTV, VH1 or anything else that encourages or glorifies the hip hop lifestyle.  They should be forced to wear suits, have respectable haircuts and work on grammar, speech and etiquette.  They should have bed checks and live in large houses/ dormitories where the other young 1st, 2nd and 3rd year players on their team, both white and black, live.  When they are not doing football related activities they should be involved in community service or charity work like the YMCA, the boys and girls club, the spca, the humane society etc.  they should have daily meetings with team veterans who can explain to them how to lead their lives and should have weekly tests where they are tested on the knowledge they have hopefuly learned.  they should then be fined (with the money going to charity) for every answer that gets them less than an 80 percent.  If they don't want to abide by these rules then they can go work for the cfl or nfl europe
that will never happen, Nba tried that and the players union balked...u cant change what people are..But i think your right, i love hip  hop but that lifestyle of bragging is bad karma
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Geo on December 01, 2007, 05:37:47 PM
Everything you are about to read is a rampant violation of civil rights and i only parly agree with even though i wrote it.  I do believe though, that it would be a step in the right direction:

what they need is to sit down every young black athlete they draft and explain to them how the real world works, that their upbringing was shit, to stay away from their old acquaintances, friends and 99% of their families and they need to become as white as  possible.  They should not be allowed to watch BET, MTV, VH1 or anything else that encourages or glorifies the hip hop lifestyle.  They should be forced to wear suits, have respectable haircuts and work on grammar, speech and etiquette.  They should have bed checks and live in large houses/ dormitories where the other young 1st, 2nd and 3rd year players on their team, both white and black, live.  When they are not doing football related activities they should be involved in community service or charity work like the YMCA, the boys and girls club, the spca, the humane society etc.  they should have daily meetings with team veterans who can explain to them how to lead their lives and should have weekly tests where they are tested on the knowledge they have hopefuly learned.  they should then be fined (with the money going to charity) for every answer that gets them less than an 80 percent.  If they don't want to abide by these rules then they can go work for the cfl or nfl europe

you'd think they'd learn how to live ADULT lives in college !
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: TrapsMcLats on December 01, 2007, 06:23:46 PM
i  doubt many actually ever went to a college class while they were there.  they were probably smoking pot, trying to have sex and listening to hip hop, whilst saying things like "thats right, thats disrespectful," and the all time classic," fo sho."
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 01, 2007, 06:41:56 PM
i  doubt many actually ever went to a college class while they were there.  they were probably smoking pot, trying to have sex and listening to hip hop, whilst saying things like "thats right, thats disrespectful," and the all time classic," fo sho."

My buddy had Classes with Cato June, Victor Hobson and B.J. Askew and said they were always in class but did cut up. The majority of colleges have people that watch the players and make sure they attend their classes. Most college athletes do get good treatment though.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Faust on December 02, 2007, 05:41:16 AM
If they don't want to abide by these rules then they can go work for the cfl or nfl europe
;D

Haha, actually our basketball competitions have a lot of americans as well. And usually they are really talented but with a bad attitude. I know somebody that plays in first division and usually the americans "flock togheter", barely talk with the euro-players. Go out a lot, eat fast-food, try to hit on every woman that passes by, etc... But they can sure play ball!
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: OneBigMan on December 04, 2007, 03:23:13 PM
Apparently Gibbs was unaware of some of his last travels.

It would be better to cancel or postpone the game, but that may not be possible as they're under tight constraints.

This will have the unforseen benny of temporarily allowing the skins season to be more easily forgotten/excused.

It doesn't seem plausible that the head coach Joe Gibbs was not aware that he went back and forth from the teams training facilities. At the very least the team's GM should have been constantly aware of the whereabouts of one of their injured starting players. It was mentioned on TV that Taylor went up to Virginia just before Thanksgiving after he had already went down to Florida to check on his home after it had been burglarized the first time. Obviously he went back home a second time because Taylor was in South Florida at the time that Washington played in Tampa the Sunday after Thanksgiving. His agent Drew Rosenhaus was on ESPNEWS an hour ago and said Taylor was supposed to catch a flight back to the DC area the morning of the home invasion robbery.

I have to say that part of this tragedy has to with the team inexplicably allowing a valuable player who was one of their starters to fly back and forth all the way from Virginia to Florida and vice versa. After he went home to check on his burglarized house, they should have gave him a timetable to rejoin the team after that. Since they didn't do that, then the simple thing for them to do was to tell him to report to the team the same day they played the Buccanears in Tampa so he could head back up to Washington after the game since he initially went back home in the Miami area for some undetermined amount of time.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: body88 on December 06, 2007, 09:01:54 AM
Gibbs didn't even know you could not call two timeouts in a row to ice a kicker, losing the bills game for the skins last week. In the least giving the Bill's kicker prime field position to make the kick.

I don't think that guy knows much of anything these days.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Gym dude on December 12, 2007, 01:12:20 AM
My condlances go out to Sean taylor family and parents.I think the NFl should have some sort secerty rule to help the players conserding the millions of dollars that they make.
Title: Re: Rip Sean taylor
Post by: Quickerblade on December 12, 2007, 02:34:51 AM
My condlances go out to Sean taylor family and parents.I think the NFl should have some sort secerty rule to help the players conserding the millions of dollars that they make.
they do..NBA,NFL and MLB have security staff like Ex CIA that have meetings with teams and players, you cant avoid all bad things unfortunately