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He is a stronger traditional/constitutional republican than anyone on the stage tonight.
He is the only man onstage who didn't mirror Bush on 95% of positions.
He is the only anti-war republican running.
He got a lot of applause tonight. I haven't seen polling yet.
I'm absolutely convinced he'll be prez or VP on an independent ticket. He has less dirt on his hands than any other man/woman running, and he's the model of consistency in a field full of underperforming flipfloppers.
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I hope to hell you're right
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He is a stronger traditional/constitutional republican than anyone on the stage tonight.
He is the only man onstage who didn't mirror Bush on 95% of positions.
He is the only anti-war republican running.
He got a lot of applause tonight. I haven't seen polling yet.
I'm absolutely convinced he'll be prez or VP on an independent ticket. He has less dirt on his hands than any other man/woman running, and he's the model of consistency in a field full of underperforming flipfloppers.
How would you vote?
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How would you vote?
dunno
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He said he won't and I believe him. He will go back to Congress.
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He said he won't and I believe him. He will go back to Congress.
do you have a quote? I believe last night it was "i intend to win the repub nomination, i have no intention of doing anything else'.
I have never heard him say "No way will I run as an independent".
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do you have a quote? I believe last night it was "i intend to win the repub nomination, i have no intention of doing anything else'.
I have never heard him say "No way will I run as an independent".
Why must I dig up this...
Mate, it's been said a million times...
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do you have a quote? I believe last night it was "i intend to win the repub nomination, i have no intention of doing anything else'.
I have never heard him say "No way will I run as an independent".
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"I have no plans to do that" is not a promise to not run Independent. Last night's debate was not a promise either. All this answer brings is that at this time he does not have plans to do that. There's a big difference. with what he's said, he could run independent and not be going against what he said earlier. Just a matter of going from not having plans to having plans... If he loses bad in the first primary, there's the reason for making plans.
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If Ron Paul doesn't get the Republican nom, they will have lost their final shot at getting a Republican elected President. (They'll have to resort to manipulaion of the voting machines yet again) imo.
There's a man that can get not only the Republican vote, but also the Libertarian, and Democratic voters.
In just about every US presidential election I remember, I've always favoured the Democratic candidate.
This is the one election where if I had a vote, I'd have a hard time not giving it to the Republican, and for me to ever consider the idea that a republican from Texas could make an excellent President, ...takes a helluvalot! A man like Ron Paul is what the USA needs in office right now. He's the right man at the right time on so many levels.
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If Ron Paul doesn't get the Republican nom, they will have lost their final shot at getting a Republican elected President. (They'll have to resort to manipulaion of the voting machines yet again) imo.
There's a man that can get not only the Republican vote, but also the Libertarian, and Democratic voters.
In just about every US presidential election I remember, I've always favoured the Democratic candidate.
This is the one election where if I had a vote, I'd have a hard time not giving it to the Republican, and for me to ever consider the idea that a republican from Texas could make an excellent President, ...takes a helluvalot! A man like Ron Paul is what the USA needs in office right now. He's the right man at the right time on so many levels.
Good to hear it but I thought you were Canadian?! ???
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Good to hear it but I thought you were Canadian?! ???
I am Canadian, ...but I have my opinions about various US politicians, and who best can steer that country back on track according to the US Constitution, and the intents of the founding fathers. In addition, his voting record has been very consistent throughout the years.
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Going to take more exposure, and quick.
So many people still don't know his name.
The majority of voters vote as they're "told" to vote. Few people form their own opinions.
Leading the "internet" revolution isn't going to do anything yet. You can't expect a high voter turn out from internet slackers. I would even go as far as to say a large amount of people that have "Ron Paul" in their avatars, signatures, or other similar things won't even be at the polls to vote for him.
Much like Paris Hilton sporting a "vote or die" shirt.....it don't mean much what people believe unless they're going to go to the polls.
I don't see him getting the republican nomination. I just feel that too many Republicans would find it worse than kissing their sister to vote for someone with his position on Iraq.
Having Democrats willing to vote repub for him isn't going to do much to help him win the republican nomination.
And democrats are too busy getting stoned to go to the polls come '08 anyway.
If he runs independant, he loses all the people that don't vote for a candidate, but vote for a "winner." Independants don't win.....the same people that let people tell them who to vote for aren't going to be told to vote for an independant.
At that point, he's going to take a large portion of democratic votes over to his independant ticket, and potentially be the cog that allows a republican to win what should be an almost unwinnable election.
For the record, I would love to see Ron Paul win both the Republican nomination and the Election.
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doesnt matter if the genpop doesnt know him.
most folks couldn't tell a dean from a kerry in 2003 until the first primaries were over and it was already decided. High probability that NH, Iowa, and Mich will determine everything... and very strong that we'll know by So Carolina for sure.
If enough primary voters choose him, he could get the nod. If general voters have to choose betwen "Paul something" and Hilary, most will pick Paul lol...
Hilary isn'tpopular. And in the debates, he'll look like an actual saint next to her. His history is spotless, his ideas make sense for the most part. They're polar opposites.
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doesnt matter if the genpop doesnt know him.
most folks couldn't tell a dean from a kerry in 2003 until the first primaries were over and it was already decided. High probability that NH, Iowa, and Mich will determine everything... and very strong that we'll know by So Carolina for sure.
If enough primary voters choose him, he could get the nod. If general voters have to choose betwen "Paul something" and Hilary, most will pick Paul lol...
Hilary isn'tpopular. And in the debates, he'll look like an actual saint next to her. His history is spotless, his ideas make sense for the most part. They're polar opposites.
Oh, I agree on him being a great choice. As it stands, he is my candidate.
I know plenty of 30-49yr olds who have no idea who Ron Paul is.
They know Rudy, McCain, Obama, and Hillary.....
You're informed. You stay informed. Most people don't.
I think he is the best candidate, but unless he can get those that only very passively follows politics to pay attention soon, I don't see him getting the nod.
A good friend of mine is a hardline Libertarian, seems to be fairly educated in politics...a few months ago I mentioned Paul, and he had to look him up.
If I walked into a mall and asked people what they thought about him, they wouldn't know what to say.
If I said Gulliani, they would say something they heard on MSNBC.
A few 19 year olds might say "Dude, that's that guy on the internet! He's bad ass."
He's not getting the press either.
At the youtube debate the other night, when he and McCain had the "the troops told me to win this thing." followed by "I'm leading in troop donations."
What was shown on the new stations? McCain was shown. Paul's great rebuttal wasn't.
More people are going to form their oppinions from the debate coverage than they are from the debate....for the simple reason that most people won't sit through an entire debate. And, those that will sit through the debate have, by and large, already formed their opinions on the candidates and are now 'rooting' for their man.
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One must admire Paul for his integrity; he seems to be the only candidate willing to speak his mind. Unfortunately, he is an ideologue and his campaign platform of unwavering libertarianism is unrealistic.
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One must admire Paul for his integrity; he seems to be the only candidate willing to speak his mind. Unfortunately, he is an ideologue and his campaign platform of unwavering libertarianism is unrealistic.
Perhaps, but better an honest ideologue than a wholly unprincipled, power hungry Billary....
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He isn't the only honest guy running. Huckabee and McCain are straight shooters.
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I would even go as far as to say a large amount of people that have "Ron Paul" in their avatars, signatures, or other similar things won't even be at the polls to vote for him.
I will, haven't missed an election yet.