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He handles the weight well, but I guarantee you, if he actually locked out instead of doing this lame 6" ROM, he wouldn't be getting 29 reps....
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Justin is a great guy (strong as hell too!)
Not sure what the block of wood is for tho?
(never saw it at the powerlifting meets i went to)
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Since today's bench shirts are double-ply steel-belted armour (!), the block is used to train the lockout of the bench press. It's the only part of the movement that shirt benchers are doing unassisted.
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Justin = powerlifter and a great bb
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Since today's bench shirts are double-ply steel-belted armour (!), the block is used to train the lockout of the bench press. It's the only part of the movement that shirt benchers are doing unassisted.
Thanks man!.............
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that little girl in the dora shirt is clearly outmassed and therefore pwned by bodybuilding standards.
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So, what would happen if he'd take the bench shirt off?
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So, what would happen if he'd take the bench shirt off?
He would still be strong as an ox.
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So, what would happen if he'd take the bench shirt off?
Well, he wouldn't get te lift, for one! He might be able to control the negative, but many people would just tear something if they attempted to bench raw, what they can bench shirted!
that said, lockouts or not, he handled the 315 for reps like it was nothing. That's one strong dude!
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He would still be strong as an ox.
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This is true, and I'm not denying that. I know they are pushing for max weight etc. but I just don't understand using the bench shirts etc. Everyone trains differently and has different goals, I just don't see why they don't bench raw.
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Justin = powerlifter and a great bb
Justin can't touch this:
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875 lb squat!
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Hmm, strong dude for sure but his form leaves something to be desired.
Wonder what he could do on bench if he didn't wear the shirt and performed full lock-out reps?
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Justin can't touch this:
nasser benched 225 at an recent olympia expo bench competition for a whopping 15 reps
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i would expect a heart attack sometime soon from this guy
think jesse marunde pressing an ungodly amount of weight over his his head with one arm 130 for 25 reps and a one rep push press with 500. you get this kinda of strength with ALOT of roids and then you die of a heart attack. He will keep trying for more and more and get frustrated and take more and push more weight. Its never ending for these guys they can be satisfied, they all die very young. The human body was not made to lift this kind of weight by natural means
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i would expect a heart attack sometime soon from this guy
think jesse marunde pressing an ungodly amount of weight over his his head with one arm 130 for 25 reps and a one rep push press with 500. you get this kinda of strength with ALOT of roids and then you die of a heart attack. He will keep trying for more and more and get frustrated and take more and push more weight. Its never ending for these guys they can be satisfied, they all die very young. The human body was not made to lift this kind of weight by natural means
A truer word has never been spoken. 8)
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that little girl in the dora shirt is clearly outmassed and therefore pwned by bodybuilding standards.
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i would expect a heart attack sometime soon from this guy
think jesse marunde pressing an ungodly amount of weight over his his head with one arm 130 for 25 reps and a one rep push press with 500. you get this kinda of strength with ALOT of roids and then you die of a heart attack. He will keep trying for more and more and get frustrated and take more and push more weight. Its never ending for these guys they can be satisfied, they all die very young. The human body was not made to lift this kind of weight by natural means
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Hmm, strong dude for sure but his form leaves something to be desired.
Wonder what he could do on bench if he didn't wear the shirt and performed full lock-out reps?
I recently ground out a set of 7 with 185lbs on bench. Each rep was locked out though.
No video of course.
I spent four years studying anatomy and physiology.
I've had human anatomy, physiology, exercise physiology, biomechanics I, biomechanics II, molecular aspects of muscle physiology, Human dissection, and practical labs for each of those classes.
I once wrote an 11 page paper describing the biomechanics of a free-bar squat, including a special emphasis on how femur length in relation to tibia length can alter forces at the patella.
I had to solve a formula for the change in pressure at each vertebrae as a given weight moved at set intervals away from a fulcrum point of the anterior aspect of the vertebral body.
I had to explain how size and shape of the superior articulating facet and size and shape of the inferior articulating facet can create a predisposition to ruptured disks.
There's very little about 'form' that I wasn't forced to learn. You could write books about it (and people have), but in the end, there are too many processes and fulcrum points in the human body to create a generalized "good form" on an exercise.
In the squat, you would have to consider femur length in relation to tibia length, also including food length, ankle size, thickness of the meniscus in the knee, hip size and shape, as well as the specific ratio of kyphosis or lordosis of each vertebrae in the spine (also taking into consideration the size of each vertebrae).
This was the longest, most pointless post ever written.
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yeah keep rolling your eyes
steroids are for farm animals not for humans you fool
these guys are doing 2 times what a normal human can do. you think the heart can simply double its cardiac output?
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Justin is one of the strongest bb'ers in the world absolutely no doubt about it, i love all these "he's not locking the weight out" clowns, hahahahahaha, gimme a fucckin' break. ::)
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yeah keep rolling your eyes
steroids are for farm animals not for humans you fool
these guys are doing 2 times what a normal human can do. you think the heart can simply double its cardiac output?
how is your hiv treatment coming along?
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look at this freak of nature bouncing up and down with 600 pounds on his back like it's the empty bar.
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Justin is one of the strongest bb'ers in the world absolutely no doubt about it, i love all these "he's not locking the weight out" clowns, hahahahahaha, gimme a fucckin' break. ::)
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yeah keep rolling your eyes
steroids are for farm animals not for humans you fool
these guys are doing 2 times what a normal human can do. you think the heart can simply double its cardiac output?
The average cardiac output at rest is 5 liters per minute
The human heart is capable of hitting 40 liters per minute at peak.
So, yes.....the heart can simply double its cardiac output (and triple, quadruple, etc., etc. ). ;)
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how is your hiv treatment coming along?
im treating you to common sense
people die of heart attacks becuase there body is holding too much cholesterol and a combination of being over weight
these guys that do steroids when they are pushing huge amounts of weight is equivalent to and obese guy trying to run up stairs. both will die of a heart attack soon
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The average cardiac output at rest is 5 liters per minute
The human heart is capable of hitting 40 liters per minute at peak.
So, yes.....the heart can simply double its cardiac output (and triple, quadruple, etc., etc. ). ;)
lol you are are going to see how much cardiac output you have while on juice? the demand is much higher while you have all those steroids flowing through you. do you think you use less blood on steroids? no the demand is more! i see a stroke coming if you keep this up or heart attack. blow that heart up baby keep trying to push the limits hell next week try to improve why dont you get more weight or reps see what you can handle
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In the squat, you would have to consider femur length in relation to tibia length, also including food length, ankle size, thickness of the meniscus in the knee, hip size and shape, as well as the specific ratio of kyphosis or lordosis of each vertebrae in the spine (also taking into consideration the size of each vertebrae).
I'm sure there's a justification in there, somewhere, for my tall ass not being able to squat with a shit!
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lol you are are going to see how much cardiac output you have while on juice? the demand is much higher while you have all those steroids flowing through you. do you think you use less blood on steroids? no the demand is more! i see a stroke coming if you keep this up or heart attack. blow that heart up baby keep trying to push the limits hell next week try to improve why dont you get more weight or reps see what you can handle
Either way, you have to admit it was funny that you were so off on the cardiac output.
I'll accept your claim of a stroke or heart attack if you can give me a bit more specifics.
Would you say I'm currently experiencing ischemia? And, if that is the case, am I at risk for an occlusive vascular event?
Or, by heart attack, are you claiming risk of cardiac arrest? If that is the case, would it be from dilated cardiomyopathy? If so, that would certainly change my risk for stroke. At that point, I would say that any cerebral vascular events would be most likely from an embolic source secondary to the reduced ejection fraction from the cardiomyopathy, right?
Unless of course, you're suggesting that I have a patent foramen ovale and the stroke you're predicting is actually more of a transient ischemic attack.
Of course, the patent foramen ovale would have been present since my "in utero" days and would have no corresponding relevance to elevated androgen levels, right?
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Either way, you have to admit it was funny that you were so off on the cardiac output.
I'll accept your claim of a stroke or heart attack if you can give me a bit more specifics.
Would you say I'm currently experiencing ischemia? And, if that is the case, am I at risk for an occlusive vascular event?
Or, by heart attack, are you claiming risk of cardiac arrest? If that is the case, would it be from dilated cardiomyopathy? If so, that would certainly change my risk for stroke. At that point, I would say that any cerebral vascular events would be most likely from an embolic source secondary to the reduced ejection fraction from the cardiomyopathy, right?
Unless of course, you're suggesting that I have a patent foramen ovale and the stroke you're predicting is actually more of a transient ischemic attack.
Of course, the patent foramen ovale would have been present since my "in utero" days and would have no corresponding relevance to elevated androgen levels, right?
dont even try to sound intelligent..
your addiction to getting bigger numbers in the gym and proving it to the world on teh juice are worse than me being a narcissist while dabbling in weed occasionally
you keep trying to expand your over inflated heart beyond normal cababilities and watch it explode.
im telling you this as a friend
why? because i personally knew of Johny Perry in NC and fucked his stripper girl friend and she basically gave me the low down on how he died and had a massive explosion heart attack .
dont be stupid and think you can justify lifting nearly 2 times of you normally do if clean
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dont even try to sound intelligent..
your addiction to getting bigger numbers in the gym and proving it to the world on teh juice are worse than me being a narcissist while dabbling in weed occasionally
you keep trying to expand your over inflated heart beyond normal cababilities and watch it explode.
im telling you this as a friend
why? because i personally knew of Johny Perry in NC and fucked his stripper girl friend and she basically gave me the low down on how he died and had a massive explosion heart attack .
dont be stupid and think you can justify lifting nearly 2 times of you normally do if clean
hahahahhaa, dude i know people who knew Johnny Perry personally and steroids were the least of what he "dabbled' in.
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dont even try to sound intelligent..
your addiction to getting bigger numbers in the gym and proving it to the world on teh juice are worse than me being a narcissist while dabbling in weed occasionally
you keep trying to expand your over inflated heart beyond normal cababilities and watch it explode.
im telling you this as a friend
why? because i personally knew of Johny Perry in NC and fucked his stripper girl friend and she basically gave me the low down on how he died and had a massive explosion heart attack .
dont be stupid and think you can justify lifting nearly 2 times of you normally do if clean
I'm improving myself every day.
I learn a new word out of the dictionary..mendatious, perjorative, empathetical, commensurate.
Which two city states fought in the punic war? I think it was Detroit and Buffalo
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Either way, you have to admit it was funny that you were so off on the cardiac output.
I'll accept your claim of a stroke or heart attack if you can give me a bit more specifics.
Would you say I'm currently experiencing ischemia? And, if that is the case, am I at risk for an occlusive vascular event?
Or, by heart attack, are you claiming risk of cardiac arrest? If that is the case, would it be from dilated cardiomyopathy? If so, that would certainly change my risk for stroke. At that point, I would say that any cerebral vascular events would be most likely from an embolic source secondary to the reduced ejection fraction from the cardiomyopathy, right?
Unless of course, you're suggesting that I have a patent foramen ovale and the stroke you're predicting is actually more of a transient ischemic attack.
Of course, the patent foramen ovale would have been present since my "in utero" days and would have no corresponding relevance to elevated androgen levels, right?
Roughly 20% of the population has a patent foramen ovale. It poses no health risks that we know of.
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Hey Troponin,
which artery in the heart is known as the "widowmaker"?
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Roughly 20% of the population has a patent foramen ovale. It poses no health risks that we know of.
Tell that to someone that just had a TIA and a positive bubble study!
Better yet, tell that to the doc that is telling her she needs a PFO closure!
Better yet, tell that to the PFO closure device manufacturer that is going to make a mint off that pointless sugery!
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hahahahhaa, dude i know people who knew Johnny Perry personally and steroids were the least of what he "dabbled' in.
yeah of course bro. im trying to make a point that i think even you would understand..
think when these guys tear a tricep or pec its simply a warning sign. because they can easily JUST as easily tear a heart
yet these guys are so stupid and think they are invincible. Even the dumbest ones who have torn most of there bodyparts from lifting too much, its kinda like 'gods' way of giving these fools a second chance by ripping there quad muscle from 600 pound squats instead of bursting there heart.
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Hey Troponin,
which artery in the heart is known as the "widowmaker"?
The left anterior decending.
It will show a corresponding hypokinesia, and potentially akinesia in the anterior myocardium.
You can also often see some apical hyopkinesia/akinesia depending on the proximity of the occlusion.
Be careful of 3 vessel disease in any myocardial perfusion imaging.....
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Justin............what is the circumference of the moon?
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Justin............what is the circumference of the moon?
If the man on the moon is on teh juice, I would suspect the facial bloating would increase the circumfrence by approximately 10-15%. Beyond that, I don't know
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The left anterior decending.
It will show a corresponding hypokinesia, and potentially akinesia in the anterior myocardium.
You can also often see some apical hyopkinesia/akinesia depending on the proximity of the occlusion.
Be careful of 3 vessel disease in any myocardial perfusion imaging.....
Sweet..just testing ya :-*
Where did you go to school? Grad student?
I really enjoyed anatomy.....OK, cleaning feces out of the rectum wasn't fun, but I learned a lot.
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yeah of course bro. im trying to make a point that i think even you would understand..
think when these guys tear a tricep or pec its simply a warning sign. because they can easily JUST as easily tear a heart
yet these guys are so stupid and think they are invincible. Even the dumbest ones who have torn most of there bodyparts from lifting too much, its kinda like 'gods' way of giving these fools a second chance by ripping there quad muscle from 600 pound squats instead of bursting there heart.
these fools will never get these golden points i make day in and day out
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If the man on the moon is on teh juice, I would suspect the facial bloating would increase the circumfrence by approximately 10-15%. Beyond that, I don't know
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Sweet..just testing ya :-*
Where did you go to school? Grad student?
I really enjoyed anatomy.....OK, cleaning feces out of the rectum wasn't fun, but I learned a lot.
Did you have a human dissection class?
By far the coolest thing I ever did in a college lab.
I ran an experiment once on the effect of high dose ephedrine and caffeine on rating of percevied exertion and time to exhaustion utilizing the bruce protocol.
We had a soccer player do the Bruce to failure as a baseline, and then the next day he came back after 50mg of ephedrine and 400mg of caffeine.
The results were pretty cool. Of course his rate pressure product was a certifiable stroke risk, but he lasted longer on the protocol and rated his exertion considerably lower at each stage of the Bruce.
I don't think that would fly as an experimental procedure today. lol
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Did you have a human dissection class?
By far the coolest thing I ever did in a college lab.
I ran an experiment once on the effect of high dose ephedrine and caffeine on rating of percevied exertion and time to exhaustion utilizing the bruce protocol.
We had a soccer player do the Bruce to failure as a baseline, and then the next day he came back after 50mg of ephedrine and 400mg of caffeine.
The results were pretty cool. Of course his rate pressure product was a certifiable stroke risk, but he lasted longer on the protocol and rated his exertion considerably lower at each stage of the Bruce.
I don't think that would fly as an experimental procedure today. lol
Yep. Dissection every day for 10 weeks.
And just so everyone knows, it's pronounced dis-section NOT di-section.
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I recently ground out a set of 7 with 185lbs on bench. Each rep was locked out though.
No video of course.
I spent four years studying anatomy and physiology.
I've had human anatomy, physiology, exercise physiology, biomechanics I, biomechanics II, molecular aspects of muscle physiology, Human dissection, and practical labs for each of those classes.
I once wrote an 11 page paper describing the biomechanics of a free-bar squat, including a special emphasis on how femur length in relation to tibia length can alter forces at the patella.
I had to solve a formula for the change in pressure at each vertebrae as a given weight moved at set intervals away from a fulcrum point of the anterior aspect of the vertebral body.
I had to explain how size and shape of the superior articulating facet and size and shape of the inferior articulating facet can create a predisposition to ruptured disks.
There's very little about 'form' that I wasn't forced to learn. You could write books about it (and people have), but in the end, there are too many processes and fulcrum points in the human body to create a generalized "good form" on an exercise.
In the squat, you would have to consider femur length in relation to tibia length, also including food length, ankle size, thickness of the meniscus in the knee, hip size and shape, as well as the specific ratio of kyphosis or lordosis of each vertebrae in the spine (also taking into consideration the size of each vertebrae).
This was the longest, most pointless post ever written.
Did you study abroad? The fact remains, however, that I have no interest in what is published in North America.
Allow me to share why:
With few exceptions in the areas of programming and organization, it's all been done before. The unfortunate fact for most westerners is that they are uninterested in developing their understanding to the point in which the translated literature (be it from Russian, Germany, Bulgaria, Poland, etc) no longer challenges them so greatly to make sense of it.
While the western masses were all jogging and practicing aerobics in the 80s- the former USSR and Eastern Bloc was pioneering sport science to a degree that has yet to even be approached here in the west.
As far as the vid, with full ROM I would expect you to hit b/t 18 and 21 reps.
It doesnt really matter though as you dont compete in PL meets.
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hey troponin if you ever tear a tricep just be glad you didnt explode youre heart. they are both muscles . so have at it , you are a waste of human life if you continue this
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hey troponin if you ever tear a tricep just be glad you didnt explode youre heart. they are both muscles . so have at it , you are a waste of human life if you continue this
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Did you study abroad? The fact remains, however, that I have no interest in what is published in North America.
Allow me to share why:
With few exceptions in the areas of programming and organization, it's all been done before. The unfortunate fact for most westerners is that they are uninterested in developing their understanding to the point in which the translated literature (be it from Russian, Germany, Bulgaria, Poland, etc) no longer challenges them so greatly to make sense of it.
While the western masses were all jogging and practicing aerobics in the 80s- the former USSR and Eastern Bloc was pioneering sport science to a degree that has yet to even be approached here in the west.
As far as the vid, with full ROM I would expect you to hit b/t 18 and 21 reps.
It doesnt really matter though as you dont compete in PL meets.
full ROM is only qualitative anyway. I could just widen my grip, pinch my shoulder blades and keep my elbows tucked to shorten my lockout by a few inches.
That lift was just for fun.
I spent a month in Poland studying the Holocaust.
I visited Oswiecim (Auschwitz), Birkenau, and Monawitz.
I helped clean up a Jewish Cemetary in the town of Wroclaw. We had to "find" the graves, as it was so over-grown.
Most of the area hadn't been cleaned or kept in any manner in 60 years.
I spent a week in Berlin, seeing the Berlin wall, Checkpoint Charlie, the Brandenburg Gate, and other places.
I spent a weekend in Prague during that trip too.
Published information should be viewed on merit not location.
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hey troponin if you ever tear a tricep just be glad you didnt explode youre heart. they are both muscles . so have at it , you are a waste of human life if you continue this
I'll bite one last time, okay?
One is striated muscle, one is cardiac muscle.
One is controlled by the autonomic nervous system (and subsequent sympathetic and parasympathetic responses), one is controled by the somatic nervous system (which is controlled by the penis in men).
As for a muscular contraction:
When the muscle cell is stimulated to contract, mechanisms cause the concentration of calcium in the sarcoplasm to rise. Some of this calcium attaches to troponin, causing a conformational change that moves troponin and tropomyosin out of the way so that the cross bridges can attach to actin and produce muscle contraction. Without troponin, there can be no muscular contraction.
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Sympathetic and parasympathetic seems to elementary to me. I prefer to call them the thoracolumbar and craniosacral, respectively :)
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I'll bite one last time, okay?
One is striated muscle, one is cardiac muscle.
One is controlled by the autonomic nervous system (and subsequent sympathetic and parasympathetic responses), one is controled by the somatic nervous system (which is controlled by the penis in men).
As for a muscular contraction:
When the muscle cell is stimulated to contract, mechanisms cause the concentration of calcium in the sarcoplasm to rise. Some of this calcium attaches to troponin, causing a conformational change that moves troponin and tropomyosin out of the way so that the cross bridges can attach to actin and produce muscle contraction. Without troponin, there can be no muscular contraction.
yeah you do a set of 500 pound squats for reps in wich your steroid muscles are performing at great capacity then as you complete your set the heart rate still increases and eventually dissapates, you get the full effect of near heart attack conditions right after you complete the set with your enhanced muscles. somethings got to give and lucky for many its there muscle that tears first
also you are walking around with more retention of fluids day in and day out then even obese people, you are walking with a CONSTANT BEYOND normal stress upon your heart even while sleeping. When you are natural and in shape you dont have to worry about the CONSTANT stress on the heart. I could only imagine the stress your heart undergoes when you really work it or even do cardio for a juicer
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Sympathetic and parasympathetic seems to elementary to me. I prefer to call them the thoracolumbar and craniosacral, respectively :)
Yeah, well thanks to my un-closed PFO, a small clot caused an occlusion proximal to Wernicke's area in my brain....so cut me some slack. ;)
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Crazy numbers Justin! What are your current numbers at right now? Any meets coming up?
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Yeah, well thanks to my un-closed PFO, a small clot caused an occlusion proximal to Wernicke's area in my brain....so cut me some slack. ;)
Your knowledge is quite good, better so than mine. But that's mostly because I forgot a lot of the details I learned. A quick glance back at my notes though and it's no problem. Learning the entire human body in 10 weeks is the most demanding thing I've ever done educationally, but I enjoyed it. Unfortunately we have to move onto other things such as pharmacology, physiology, metabolism, etc.
It's very refreshing to see a BB so well education as yourself though Troponin.
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that was fucking impressive. i remember being really impressed with siders' 315x30, but for a guy who weighs half as much with no stomach to use to his advantage, that's just insane.
the 225x60 is almost more impressive, just because that kind of endurance is ridiculous.
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Crazy numbers Justin! What are your current numbers at right now? Any meets coming up?
I have no idea. I'm hoping to hit a few meets in the spring and summer.
I just partnered with TrueProtein's parent company on some projects, and I want to devote the time needed to those first.
I totaled 2149lbs last march, and I will be very disapointed if I don't beat those at the next meet I do.
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I have no idea. I'm hoping to hit a few meets in the spring and summer.
I just partnered with TrueProtein's parent company on some projects, and I want to devote the time needed to those first.
I totaled 2149lbs last march, and I will be very disapointed if I don't beat those at the next meet I do.
Good luck on the new business adventures you got going on... Surprised you have any time to eat let alone train with all the shit you you do :)
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Just read this thread. A small gem. Guy (troponin: apt/witty moniker) posts with intelligence, wit and (my absolute favourite) irony. If I wasn't spoken for, I would start one of those Bluto gay threads.
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hey troponin if you ever tear a tricep just be glad you didnt explode youre heart. they are both muscles . so have at it , you are a waste of human life if you continue this
You are fucking nuts ;D
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You are fucking nuts ;D
I think he is moving in a reasonable direction though. Although he is incorrect regarding similarities between skeletal and cardiac muscle, I would bet everything I own that if exogenous, anabolic steroids are being used, there is rampant, higher than regular cell signaling rates which can lead to cancer as well as other problematic conditions. The amounts of chemicals some people use will take all these pretty little "predictions" some people have on this board and flush them down the proverbial toilet.
It is all fine and dandy to quote physiology and pretend like you know all there is to know, however, one thing advanced biochemistry should teach you is that we know so very little regarding the big picture in cell signaling and caution should be exercised when coming to definitive conclusions because chances are, pathways are different within different tissues and any conclusions one attempts to make tend to be very context specific.
That being said. Strong dude. Lockouts would change things I think, but, he isn't competing so if he wants to say he did 29 reps, who gives a shit?
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He handles the weight well, but I guarantee you, if he actually locked out instead of doing this lame 6" ROM, he wouldn't be getting 29 reps....
Stop being a moron! Your guarantee is worthless because you are DEAD wrong.
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I think he is moving in a reasonable direction though. Although he is incorrect regarding similarities between skeletal and cardiac muscle, I would bet everything I own that if exogenous, anabolic steroids are being used, there is rampant, higher than regular cell signaling rates which can lead to cancer as well as other problematic conditions. The amounts of chemicals some people use will take all these pretty little "predictions" some people have on this board and flush them down the proverbial toilet.
It is all fine and dandy to quote physiology and pretend like you know all there is to know, however, one thing advanced biochemistry should teach you is that we know so very little regarding the big picture in cell signaling and caution should be exercised when coming to definitive conclusions because chances are, pathways are different within different tissues and any conclusions one attempts to make tend to be very context specific.
That being said. Strong dude. Lockouts would change things I think, but, he isn't competing so if he wants to say he did 29 reps, who gives a shit?
good post
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Stop being a moron! Your guarantee is worthless because you are DEAD wrong.
well, no. he's not. if he went to full lockout that would add, my guess, an extra 5" in each direction (which isn't a whole lot considering he's going flat back), 10" per rep, 290" or ~24 feet total extra distance the bar would have to travel.
chances are he wouldn't have the endurance to go all that distance. i'd say he'd still top 20 reps and get a few above that, but to think he'd still get 29 is just crazy.
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well, no. he's not. if he went to full lockout that would add, my guess, an extra 5" in each direction (which isn't a whole lot considering he's going flat back), 10" per rep, 290" or ~24 feet total extra distance the bar would have to travel.
chances are he wouldn't have the endurance to go all that distance. i'd say he'd still top 20 reps and get a few above that, but to think he'd still get 29 is just crazy.
You are oversimplifying matters... First, if he were to press to lockout, by definition, there would be a point in the ROM where the weight would be supported primarily by his skeleton. That would mean less tension on the involved musculature. Next, changing the ROM would change the stress on the nervous system and also the percentage involvement of the varying muscles involved in the movement. These factors and more are involved so to say that he would get fewer reps etc. is just fucking stupid.
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full ROM is only qualitative anyway. I could just widen my grip, pinch my shoulder blades and keep my elbows tucked to shorten my lockout by a few inches.
That lift was just for fun.
I spent a month in Poland studying the Holocaust.
I visited Oswiecim (Auschwitz), Birkenau, and Monawitz.
I helped clean up a Jewish Cemetary in the town of Wroclaw. We had to "find" the graves, as it was so over-grown.
Most of the area hadn't been cleaned or kept in any manner in 60 years.
I spent a week in Berlin, seeing the Berlin wall, Checkpoint Charlie, the Brandenburg Gate, and other places.
I spent a weekend in Prague during that trip too.
Published information should be viewed on merit not location.
LOL I will let you tell the judge at your next PL meet that ROM is only qualitative You can shorten your ROM by arching back, wide grip but You cant "shorten a lockout" either you fully extend the elbow or you dont.
Seriously , what does cleaning a Jewish cemetary have to do with understanding USSR Eastern Bloc sports science?
You have an undergrad in Exercise science from an American University yet you act as if you are an M.D. with 3 PhD's and that your privy to all this "top secret" training/diet/ medical info lol.
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LOL I will let you tell the judge at your next PL meet that ROM is only qualitative You can shorten your ROM by arching back, wide grip but You cant "shorten a lockout" either you fully extend the elbow or you dont.
Seriously , what does cleaning a Jewish cemetary have to do with understanding USSR Eastern Bloc sports science?
You have an undergrad in Exercise science from an American University yet you act as if you are an M.D. with 3 PhD's and that your privy to all this "top secret" training/diet/ medical info lol.
Lol, he is bigger and stronger than you will ever be, and he has a brain. Now what do you have to say?
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You are oversimplifying matters... First, if he were to press to lockout, by definition, there would be a point in the ROM where the weight would be supported primarily by his skeleton. That would mean less tension on the involved musculature. Next, changing the ROM would change the stress on the nervous system and also the percentage involvement of the varying muscles involved in the movement. These factors and more are involved so to say that he would get fewer reps etc. is just fucking stupid.
I have seen some of your lifts and been very impressed. That being said I am not sure why you aren't agreeing with Magoo. He is right. There is never really a point in a bench press in which the joints support all of it. If there was it would be possible to wait at the top of a press for 2 minutes and then press the weight again. My guess is the triceps would give out and I would probably be right.
The guy is strong and he has been to school, but he isn't perfect and neither are his lifts. If he locked out the reps would drop. By how much nobody will know until the guy tries it.
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I have seen some of your lifts and been very impressed. That being said I am not sure why you aren't agreeing with Magoo. He is right. There is never really a point in a bench press in which the joints support all of it. If there was it would be possible to wait at the top of a press for 2 minutes and then press the weight again. My guess is the triceps would give out and I would probably be right.
The guy is strong and he has been to school, but he isn't perfect and neither are his lifts. If he locked out the reps would drop. By how much nobody will know until the guy tries it.
Do a self-experiment. Train one day like he does and get as many reps as possible with a given load. Then return 4-5 days later and do whatever you think should be done in terms of a lockout and see how many reps you get. Get back with us with your results.
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LOL I will let you tell the judge at your next PL meet that ROM is only qualitative You can shorten your ROM by arching back, wide grip but You cant "shorten a lockout" either you fully extend the elbow or you dont.
Seriously , what does cleaning a Jewish cemetary have to do with understanding USSR Eastern Bloc sports science?
You have an undergrad in Exercise science from an American University yet you act as if you are an M.D. with 3 PhD's and that your privy to all this "top secret" training/diet/ medical info lol.
You asked if I ever studied over-seas.
I told you what I studied there.
There's no act. I've never acted as if I was privy to any secret information. I have availability to the majority of the information everyone else is.
As far as where I received my education, the information is available. Whether you learn yourself, a teacher tells you to learn it, or a German teacher tells you "Verstehen das." It's up to you to understand and comprehend the information.
And the only russian word I know is the word for Syphilis. "Ratchakakov"
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If I remember right I said on here at sometime Kaz did 405 for 50. Someone said no way so I called him. He told me it was 315 for 50 and 405 for 29.
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no human being on earth can do 50 reps with 405 bench press.
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But if he could, then im sure onlyme would know him ::)
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Do a self-experiment. Train one day like he does and get as many reps as possible with a given load. Then return 4-5 days later and do whatever you think should be done in terms of a lockout and see how many reps you get. Get back with us with your results.
Your logic would suggest that the 850lb rack pull you did awhile ago and had a video equates to you doing an 850lb deadlift from the floor. That is nonsense.
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875 lb squat!
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I love how he puts a t-shirt on in order to make it look like he's not wearing a lifting suit.
Yeah "Justin", we think you can partial squat almost 900 lbs, without a belt, no suit, and only some "measly" wraps.
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Yeah, uhm, I put the tshirt on... because.. uhm..
Sponsor obligation?
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1050 Bench by Kennelly:
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I love how he puts a t-shirt on in order to make it look like he's not wearing a lifting suit.
Yeah "Justin", we think you can partial squat almost 900 lbs, without a belt, no suit, and only some "measly" wraps.
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Yeah, uhm, I put the tshirt on... because.. uhm..
Sponsor obligation?
I'll go shirtless for you next time.
Just because I'm a bodybuilder doesn't mean I have any desire to lift shirtless. It says in the title of the clip that I'm trying my new ace briefs out.
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I love how he puts a t-shirt on in order to make it look like he's not wearing a lifting suit.
Yeah "Justin", we think you can partial squat almost 900 lbs, without a belt, no suit, and only some "measly" wraps.
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Yeah, uhm, I put the tshirt on... because.. uhm..
Sponsor obligation?
he's wearing BRIEFS, dingbat. the shirt isn't going "over" anything because briefs don't go any higher than the belt. ::)
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I'll go shirtless for you next time.
Just because I'm a bodybuilder doesn't mean I have any desire to lift shirtless. It says in the title of the clip that I'm trying my new ace briefs out.
Sorry sport. :-[ ;D
Then it's one helluva lift, no if's, but's or what's.
Partial squatting close to 900, at that weight, incredibly strong.
And leave the shirt on. >:(
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Sorry sport. :-[ ;D
Then it's one helluva lift, no if's, but's or what's.
Partial squatting close to 900, at that weight, incredibly strong.
And leave the shirt on. >:(
hedge=pwned
Now get to work moving threads before ron take away your mod powers
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Nasser.
(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1111418669_765.jpg)
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Your logic would suggest that the 850lb rack pull you did awhile ago and had a video equates to you doing an 850lb deadlift from the floor. That is nonsense.
No it doesn't... Lol, you have no idea what you are talking about. There is a HUGE difference. The physics of the movements are VERY different.
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Sorry sport. :-[ ;D
Then it's one helluva lift, no if's, but's or what's.
Partial squatting close to 900, at that weight, incredibly strong.
And leave the shirt on. >:(
owned like the idiot you are, keep the cock in its holster next time...your mouth
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Justin is one of the strongest bb'ers in the world absolutely no doubt about it, i love all these "he's not locking the weight out" clowns, hahahahahaha, gimme a fucckin' break. ::)
I don't have a problem with the way he's repping these weights neither. A rep is a fcuking rep, and 29 of them with 315lbs is fcking sweet
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lol juice, no juice, lock out, no lock out...whatever that dudes still a haas and you should give him props instead of hate...and enough with the nasser pics lol
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No it doesn't... Lol, you have no idea what you are talking about. There is a HUGE difference. The physics of the movements are VERY different.
I really think you should rethink this. I have been in the gym for too long and have too much school to agree with you. Sorry.
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hahahahhaa, dude i know people who knew Johnny Perry personally and steroids were the least of what he "dabbled' in.
your claim is backed up by JP's autopsy.
coke, x, ghb, and some other shit were present.
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Its strong as hell but he's not even close to doing a range where "there's not much point going further".
That being said, generally the bullshitters do the other half of the rep so I doubt it would affect him hugely. Lose a few reps, even 20 would be mighty impressive.