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Title: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Sentenza on December 07, 2007, 03:17:58 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5854831


"In all fairness...

there's a lot going on that you have no clue about leading up to that interview.

Peter was being interviewed right when he came from backstage and he was still caught up in the aftermath of the decision. His emotions were running high. Charles was actually standing in Peter's view waiting to be interviewed next.

Peter has a lot of respect for Charles and they are friends... you haven't seen footage of Peter reaching out for Charles prior to the announcement and congratulating him on stage following the decision.

You aren't going to see the footage of Charles doing a slash gesture in reference to Peter while Peter had his back to Charles exiting stage at pre-judging. That could be misconstrued as well.

The point here... they battled and things become heated(they were being pitted against each other), but at the end of the day they walked off stage as friends.

Charles did win, but MANY people had Peter winning and stuck by it even after the show. People such as Lonnie Teper of Ironman, Ron Avidan of Getbig, Isaac Hinds of LiftStudios, Bob Chic, and even Dave Palumbo to name a few. But bottom line, Charles took home the win and I know Peter is fine with it now. Everything is about timing and it was Charle's night, he looked great and was deserving. The reality is it could have gone either way.

I know Peter has spoken to Charles via a few messages, etc.. since the Nationals. Even following the USAs Peter phoned Charles to let him know he was going to be competing in the Nationals. What you witnessed was a good rivalry amongst two fierce competitors. Things can become heated but they still remain friends.

BTW... Flexonline's pics offer a better perspective."

These are the pics that offer a better perspective ::)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1010591&d=1196614734)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1010641&d=1196615863)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1010651&d=1196616309)
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Special Ed on December 07, 2007, 03:21:26 PM
I would certainly hope that his wife says he deserved to win. If she said otherwise, I suspect Peter would "Peterson" her.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Blockhead on December 07, 2007, 03:25:38 PM

     ...as in Bolingbrook, IL cop Drew PETERSON or Modesto, CA playboy SCOTT? Both, I'd reckon.


  I'm suprised that ON 'powers that be' didn't terminate Jessica's contract for  conflict of interest for rooting for a METRX athlete. I hear those malicious bastards over there are like that.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: gh15 on December 07, 2007, 03:27:33 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5854831


"In all fairness...

there's a lot going on that you have no clue about leading up to that interview.

Peter was being interviewed right when he came from backstage and he was still caught up in the aftermath of the decision. His emotions were running high. Charles was actually standing in Peter's view waiting to be interviewed next.

Peter has a lot of respect for Charles and they are friends... you haven't seen footage of Peter reaching out for Charles prior to the announcement and congratulating him on stage following the decision.

You aren't going to see the footage of Charles doing a slash gesture in reference to Peter while Peter had his back to Charles exiting stage at pre-judging. That could be misconstrued as well.

The point here... they battled and things become heated(they were being pitted against each other), but at the end of the day they walked off stage as friends.

Charles did win, but MANY people had Peter winning and stuck by it even after the show. People such as Lonnie Teper of Ironman, Ron Avidan of Getbig, Isaac Hinds of LiftStudios, Bob Chic, and even Dave Palumbo to name a few. But bottom line, Charles took home the win and I know Peter is fine with it now. Everything is about timing and it was Charle's night, he looked great and was deserving. The reality is it could have gone either way.

I know Peter has spoken to Charles via a few messages, etc.. since the Nationals. Even following the USAs Peter phoned Charles to let him know he was going to be competing in the Nationals. What you witnessed was a good rivalry amongst two fierce competitors. Things can become heated but they still remain friends.

BTW... Flexonline's pics offer a better perspective."

These are the pics that offer a better perspective ::)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1010591&d=1196614734)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1010641&d=1196615863)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1010651&d=1196616309)

jessica baby,,let me explain you something about bodybuilding on us grounds ok hun? listen carefuly since you seem to show interest,,ill keep it fast so you dont have to think much

peter deserved to win his pro cards,,
but he wont win it
until
you
take
your
sorry ass face and ofcourse his,,
off the elite fitness steroid board

now read it couple times ,,digest it,,,and next year make sure your face and his are covered or not there to begin with,,in this industry you have to kiss ass and NEVER EVER TALK ABOUT NOT DOING STEROIDS WHILE YOUR FSACE AND HIS COVER ONE OF THE BIGGEST STEROID BOARDS ON THE INTERNET TO DATE

now you know why he didnt win though deserved
learn and apply
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: dr.chimps on December 07, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
Hey, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no idea how I was going to fall asleep tonight, what with all the worrying I do over Putnam and his pro card.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: affeman on December 07, 2007, 03:53:54 PM
jessica baby,,let me explain you something about bodybuilding on us grounds ok hun? listen carefuly since you seem to show interest,,ill keep it fast so you dont have to think much

peter deserved to win his pro cards,,
but he wont win it
until
you
take
your
sorry ass face and ofcourse his,,
off the elite fitness steroid board

now read it couple times ,,digest it,,,and next year make sure your face and his are covered or not there to begin with,,in this industry you have to kiss ass and NEVER EVER TALK ABOUT NOT DOING STEROIDS WHILE YOUR FSACE AND HIS COVER ONE OF THE BIGGEST STEROID BOARDS ON THE INTERNET TO DATE

now you know why he didnt win though deserved
learn and apply

Have you ever posted one message in your life not related to steroids??
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Mad Nickels on December 07, 2007, 03:56:01 PM
spot on.

getbig posters get their pro cards.

you spent your time on that juice board, everyone sees it jessica.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: affy on December 07, 2007, 03:59:53 PM
jessica baby,,let me explain you something about bodybuilding on us grounds ok hun? listen carefuly since you seem to show interest,,ill keep it fast so you dont have to think much

peter deserved to win his pro cards,,
but he wont win it
until
you
take
your
sorry ass face and ofcourse his,,
off the elite fitness steroid board

now read it couple times ,,digest it,,,and next year make sure your face and his are covered or not there to begin with,,in this industry you have to kiss ass and NEVER EVER TALK ABOUT NOT DOING STEROIDS WHILE YOUR FSACE AND HIS COVER ONE OF THE BIGGEST STEROID BOARDS ON THE INTERNET TO DATE

now you know why he didnt win though deserved
learn and apply
if you had a choice to boink jessica or dina..who would you choose?

Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Blockhead on December 07, 2007, 04:00:57 PM

 Denise Masino!

 Otherwise...Dina by a country MILE!
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: The Squadfather on December 07, 2007, 04:14:35 PM
Jessica is hot beyond belief and Pete is a very good bb'er but..................... ..................she's dead wrong, Dixon destroyed him.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: 20inch calves on December 07, 2007, 05:26:35 PM
i think putman will get a pro card. hes just got to pay his dues. the guy has a good physique though
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Tre on December 07, 2007, 05:45:44 PM
Charles did win, but MANY people had Peter winning and stuck by it even after the show. People such as ... Ron Avidan of Getbig, Isaac Hinds of LiftStudios...

That's not what they said later on. 



Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: McFarland on December 07, 2007, 05:47:28 PM
Listen, it's Jess's JOB to think that, ok?  I wouldn't think anything of her if she thought otherwise.   ;D
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: dearth on December 07, 2007, 07:01:32 PM
Jay cutler said Peter's back sucks.

http://boards.flexonline.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=10d310fc80d1f24588e67ffad73bf799;act=ST;f=1;t=12471;st=30
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Mad Nickels on December 07, 2007, 07:04:12 PM
Jay cutler said Peter's back sucks.

http://boards.flexonline.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=10d310fc80d1f24588e67ffad73bf799;act=ST;f=1;t=12471;st=30

Cutler took a piss on Peter Putnam's parade.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: musclecenter on December 07, 2007, 07:10:19 PM
I heard Dennis Wolf's wife says Dennis should won the Olympia  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: McFarland on December 07, 2007, 07:19:50 PM
I heard Dennis Wolf's wife says Dennis should won the Olympia  ;D ;D

That's right, and that's the way it damn sure SHOULD be, huh Musclecenter?   ;D
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 07, 2007, 07:22:50 PM
How come today's NPC competition sucks so much?

Compared with the 90's...
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: The Freakshow on December 07, 2007, 07:29:20 PM
Way to go Jessica. Stand behind your man!!! :)
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Peter Putnam on December 07, 2007, 07:50:12 PM
Charles is the man and was a deserving winner.  He's a really good guy and I wish him all the best.  Can't wait to see him compete on the pro stage at the 202lbs Class at the NY Pro as I will be rooting for him!

Happy Holiday guys!
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on December 07, 2007, 07:53:10 PM
I would certainly hope that his wife says he deserved to win. If she said otherwise, I suspect Peter would "Peterson" her.
Teeheee that was orignal ed. Did you think of that one on your own or did you have your dipshit crew of writers help you with that one?
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: LATS on December 07, 2007, 09:05:19 PM
 peter is a great guy.. and yes, charles was the deserving winner that day.. another day might be a different story.. such  is the eb and flow of bodybuilding..
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: gh15 on December 07, 2007, 09:07:59 PM
if you had a choice to boink jessica or dina..who would you choose?



dina due to personality,,but never a fitness girl for long term NEVERR,,jessica is what i call fuck me and throw me type of thing,,it can never go for long term as in she is artifical to a point that when peter get back to his 160lb weight she is out of there,,very hard to be with those kind of girls,,they are very into self satisfection and usually insecure and in most cases been abused in childhood/teenage years  in some form

see dina i can go into discussions with that will make me wanna do her even if im not attracted much to her look

with the other one it is all fake from hair to boobs to anything on her,,maybe eyes are real,,so....it would be good for a quicky in restroom no feelings attached while in reality a relashionship would have to be alwayas i give i give i give,,,she take she take she take,,it can never survive long term marrige ,,with anyone and that includes mr peter


so to your specific question: dina,,with diff hair color and little more weight
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Grundle on December 07, 2007, 10:24:14 PM
dina due to personality,,but never a fitness girl for long term NEVERR,,jessica is what i call fuck me and throw me type of thing,,it can never go for long term as in she is artifical to a point that when peter get back to his 160lb weight she is out of there,,very hard to be with those kind of girls,,they are very into self satisfection and usually insecure and in most cases been abused in childhood/teenage years  in some form

see dina i can go into discussions with that will make me wanna do her even if im not attracted much to her look

with the other one it is all fake from hair to boobs to anything on her,,maybe eyes are real,,so....it would be good for a quicky in restroom no feelings attached while in reality a relashionship would have to be alwayas i give i give i give,,,she take she take she take,,it can never survive long term marrige ,,with anyone and that includes mr peter


so to your specific question: dina,,with diff hair color and little more weight


Gh15,

Are you a virgin, I mean with women?
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Ron on December 08, 2007, 12:42:49 AM
Quote
Charles is the man and was a deserving winner.  He's a really good guy and I wish him all the best.  Can't wait to see him compete on the pro stage at the 202lbs Class at the NY Pro as I will be rooting for him!

Well... we were at Dallas, a lot of us, and Peter looked the best I have seen him, much better than the USA's earlier this year, and this was Peter's show to win. Unfortunately, Charles was just as good. And it could of gone either way and everyone would of been ok with it.

After prejudging, a lot of us talked about these two, and it was hard to decide on how will win. This was the toughest class because both of them looked great. I did have Peter winning, because of his overall physique, but Charles was thicker.

Talking to various people and judges later on, it became that is was mixed. Some had Peter winning, some had Charles winning, but all agreed it was close.

Peter and Jessica - Muscle & Fitness cover, great showing this year, just signed Weider contracts, publicity - so many people would love to get kind of stuff in a year. It isn't easy.

As for Dina vs. Jessica, each had their own special attributes, and are both two of the coolest people. 
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: aussiepro on December 08, 2007, 03:38:29 AM
i know peter is 5'6 how short must charles be, about 5'3 or so he looks like a midget
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Sentenza on December 08, 2007, 07:07:30 AM
Well... we were at Dallas, a lot of us, and Peter looked the best I have seen him, much better than the USA's earlier this year, and this was Peter's show to win. Unfortunately, Charles was just as good. And it could of gone either way and everyone would of been ok with it.

After prejudging, a lot of us talked about these two, and it was hard to decide on how will win. This was the toughest class because both of them looked great. I did have Peter winning, because of his overall physique, but Charles was thicker.

Talking to various people and judges later on, it became that is was mixed. Some had Peter winning, some had Charles winning, but all agreed it was close.

Peter and Jessica - Muscle & Fitness cover, great showing this year, just signed Weider contracts, publicity - so many people would love to get kind of stuff in a year. It isn't easy.

As for Dina vs. Jessica, each had their own special attributes, and are both two of the coolest people. 


Unfortunately ?
Well we're all sorry your pal didn't win .
Stop kissing ass for once in your life and say what's really on your mind... Who do you think you're fooling acting like you're the athletes friend? Stop being nice to them, they only talk to you because getbig is the most popular board in the industry.They're not your friends, they couldn't care less about you... You're no bodybuilding expert either, you're just a good business man.
Putnam could have won? Yeah right  ::)
And Cutler deserved to win too  ::)
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: emn1964 on December 08, 2007, 07:30:00 AM
Personally I think Jessica is a good woman.  She stands by her man and will defend him against everyone.  What else would you expect her to say?
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Pete Nice on December 08, 2007, 11:30:23 AM
dina due to personality,,but never a fitness girl for long term NEVERR,,jessica is what i call fuck me and throw me type of thing,,it can never go for long term as in she is artifical to a point that when peter get back to his 160lb weight she is out of there,,very hard to be with those kind of girls,,they are very into self satisfection and usually insecure and in most cases been abused in childhood/teenage years  in some form

see dina i can go into discussions with that will make me wanna do her even if im not attracted much to her look

with the other one it is all fake from hair to boobs to anything on her,,maybe eyes are real,,so....it would be good for a quicky in restroom no feelings attached while in reality a relashionship would have to be alwayas i give i give i give,,,she take she take she take,,it can never survive long term marrige ,,with anyone and that includes mr peter


so to your specific question: dina,,with diff hair color and little more weight


hahaha...good stuff gh15
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Tre on December 08, 2007, 12:54:04 PM
Unfortunately ?
Well we're all sorry your pal didn't win .
Stop kissing ass for once in your life and say what's really on your mind... Who do you think you're fooling acting like you're the athletes friend? Stop being nice to them, they only talk to you because getbig is the most popular board in the industry.They're not your friends, they couldn't care less about you... You're no bodybuilding expert either, you're just a good business man.
Putnam could have won? Yeah right  ::)
And Cutler deserved to win too  ::)

Are you suggesting that Ron used to be a huge Yankees fan? 
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: gh15 on December 08, 2007, 08:12:06 PM
Gh15,

Are you a virgin, I mean with women?

 if i took all the offers i had thru the years from married women and girlfriends of people i knew to fuck their brains out ,,,id be burning in hell when i pass on,,,the most cheaters were the american girls ,,amazing how east they were to get in bed if just wanted to,,i had many close calls but i held myself well usualy by embaressing the girl and make her feel like the whore she was/is,,it always happen in america for some reason and in europe it happen to me very few times

in any case to your answer: im loyal to my chosen woman and my hand these days,,you learn that at the end a pussy is just a spussy and boobs are just boobs and they all feel and look the same after 2 months,,all girls after 2 months become submissive to the guy since they fall inlove ,,and most guys take advantage of it and stay,,the ones who cant be submissive to the guy ending up alone and loose or in short time marriges and very unhappy

in short life is good for a male ,,,as long as you know how to handle a hot chic and treat her same as you treat a 220 lb woman ,,,never ever be too nice to a girl because they will very fast demand more and more and more to a point  you get boring to them,,girls need challenge and the more insecure about themselves you make them feel ,,the more they will try to satusfy you and love you to death

it is kind of abusive but it is more of a mental thing,,every girl is being abused mentaly by the guy she loves in some way,,the problem is some guys dont know the diff between mental and physical,,and those are the guy that i suggest be sitting in prison for good 10 years each time they raise their hand on a woman
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 08:14:05 PM
if i took all the offers i had thru the years from married women and girlfriends of people i knew to fuck their brains out ,,,id be burning in hell when i pass on,,,the most cheaters were the american girls ,,amazing how east they were to get in bed if just wanted to,,i had many close calls but i held myself well usualy by embaressing the girl and make her feel like the whore she was/is,,it always happen in america for some reason and in europe it happen to me very few times

in any case to your answer: im loyal to my chosen woman and my hand these days,,you learn that at the end a pussy is just a spussy and boobs are just boobs and they all feel and look the same after 2 months,,all girls after 2 months become submissive to the guy since they fall inlove ,,and most guys take advantage of it and stay,,the ones who cant be submissive to the guy ending up alone and loose or in short time marriges and very unhappy

in short life is good for a male ,,,as long as you know how to handle a hot chic and treat her same as you treat a 220 lb woman ,,,never ever be too nice to a girl because they will very fast demand more and more and more to a point  you get boring to them,,girls need challenge and the more insecure about themselves you make them feel ,,the more they will try to satusfy you and love you to death

it is kind of abusive but it is more of a mental thing,,every girl is being abused mentaly by the guy she loves in some way,,the problem is some guys dont know the diff between mental and physical,,and those are the guy that i suggest be sitting in prison for good 10 years each time they raise their hand on a woman
truest post i've ever heard on this subject.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: McFarland on December 08, 2007, 08:19:55 PM
truest post i've ever heard on this subject.

I always pay very close attention to these in particular. 
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: gh15 on December 08, 2007, 08:23:05 PM
Personally I think Jessica is a good woman.  She stands by her man and will defend him against everyone.  What else would you expect her to say?

i have yet to see a fitness girl that was good woman in the true sense of the word,,see any woman that was a stripper or a waitress of hooter or gogo dancer or whatever other thing she needed her body for to get money from,,,any type of woman like that uses guys right and left because they are never happy ,,never happy about themselves,,about their body ,,about their man,,about their family ,,about their anything,,those women are always insecure and it starts from teenage ears during the homecoming years because her best friend was chosen to be home quieen or she wanted to look best in cheerleading highschool and her friend look better,,or her mom pushed her to do pagons when she wanted to play with her friends outside,,

those women that do fitness and figure particularly figure,,many of them are lacking what it takes to be good woman in true sense of the word good-woman,,

i never considerd firtness or figure or strippers or hooter waitress a good woman ,,they were always easy fuck and just girls you knew that you could get because you had big muscles and nice smile ,,also dropped them fast because they didnt stimulate me past the third fuck,,there was no body hoime as you say it in american
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: The Squadfather on December 08, 2007, 08:24:14 PM
i have yet to see a fitness girl that was good woman in the true sense of the word,,see any woman that was a stripper or a waitress of hooter or gogo dancer or whatever other thing she needed her body for to get money from,,,any type of woman like that uses guys right and left because they are never happy ,,never happy about themselves,,about their body ,,about their man,,about their family ,,about their anything,,those women are always insecure and it starts from teenage ears during the homecoming years because her best friend was chosen to be home quieen or she wanted to look best in cheerleading highschool and her friend look better,,or her mom pushed her to do pagons when she wanted to play with her friends outside,,

those women that do fitness and figure particularly figure,,many of them are lacking what it takes to be good woman in true sense of the word good-woman,,

i never considerd firtness or figure or strippers or hooter waitress a good woman ,,they were always easy fuck and just girls you knew that you could get because you had big muscles and nice smile ,,also dropped them fast because they didnt stimulate me past the third fuck,,there was no body hoime as you say it in american
strippers ABSOLUTELY HATE MEN, it comes with the territory, they are all into money first and foremost.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: gh15 on December 08, 2007, 08:25:25 PM
i take it back some of what i said,,i do know a number of them (figure fitness) that are good women,,but they are nothing like todays girls,,today girls in most cases do it for the wrong reasons
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Hedgehog on December 08, 2007, 08:45:26 PM
How the hell did she make that assessment?




...is she cross-eyed or somethin'? ;)
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Stavios on December 08, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
GH15, I have to say that you really seem to know your shit about the bitches

those last few posts were right on !

Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: Lift Studios on December 08, 2007, 10:16:13 PM
That's not what they said later on. 
You were too busy posing down with JC to know what was said after the show.

I did have Peter winning the class based on his conditioning, however Dixon packs a ton of muscle and I had no problem with the judges decision. Dixon, at present time, has a more complete physique than Peter. I'm sure Peter will be working on bringing up his back in the off-season. He along with Brandon Curry and Brandon Rey have to be considered the top NPC competitors going into 2009.
Title: Re: Jessica Putnam says Peter should have won the Lightheavies
Post by: affy on December 09, 2007, 08:46:27 AM
if i took all the offers i had thru the years from married women and girlfriends of people i knew to fuck their brains out ,,,id be burning in hell when i pass on,,,the most cheaters were the american girls ,,amazing how east they were to get in bed if just wanted to,,i had many close calls but i held myself well usualy by embaressing the girl and make her feel like the whore she was/is,,it always happen in america for some reason and in europe it happen to me very few times

in any case to your answer: im loyal to my chosen woman and my hand these days,,you learn that at the end a pussy is just a spussy and boobs are just boobs and they all feel and look the same after 2 months,,all girls after 2 months become submissive to the guy since they fall inlove ,,and most guys take advantage of it and stay,,the ones who cant be submissive to the guy ending up alone and loose or in short time marriges and very unhappy

in short life is good for a male ,,,as long as you know how to handle a hot chic and treat her same as you treat a 220 lb woman ,,,never ever be too nice to a girl because they will very fast demand more and more and more to a point  you get boring to them,,girls need challenge and the more insecure about themselves you make them feel ,,the more they will try to satusfy you and love you to death

it is kind of abusive but it is more of a mental thing,,every girl is being abused mentaly by the guy she loves in some way,,the problem is some guys dont know the diff between mental and physical,,and those are the guy that i suggest be sitting in prison for good 10 years each time they raise their hand on a woman

that was perhaps the best post I've ever read by you

haha gh knows his shit about woman