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Title: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 11:39:40 AM
friend of mine that passed away a few months back.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Option D on December 11, 2007, 11:40:53 AM
foooooking A...he is a beast.
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Post by: Sir William Idol on December 11, 2007, 11:43:43 AM
looks like a scanned pic from a disposable camera
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 11:44:46 AM
looks like a scanned pic from a disposable camera
yes that is what i took the pic with about 2005 or early 2006. 
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Sir William Idol on December 11, 2007, 11:52:53 AM
what was his cause of death
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Post by: Jizzacked on December 11, 2007, 11:56:09 AM
sorry to hear he passed, wouldn't an actual picture instead of a distant mirror reflection be a bit more of a memorial to your friend?
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 12:00:23 PM
i didnt get many pics..... this next one was previous to the first one, 257 lbs.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Mars on December 11, 2007, 12:01:34 PM
P.I.P
Pose in Peace.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Victor VonDoom on December 11, 2007, 12:02:47 PM
How much attention do you want?  You got 199 views and 4 replies when you posted this same thread last month.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=183346.0  Bah!

Doom is sorry for your loss but disapproves of repeat threads.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: bebop396 on December 11, 2007, 12:05:02 PM
Your friend looks familiar, sorry for your loss....
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 12:11:12 PM
How much attention do you want?  You got 199 views and 4 replies when you posted this same thread last month.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=183346.0  Bah!

Doom is sorry for your loss but disapproves of repeat threads.
fuck off. the first time i posted it was for respect to him, i just found out he passed away. now im putting it on the g & o just to show the size of the guy. 5-8 and anything over 250 is damn big. when i saw him last year and he was 280 i was like "holy shit"!
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2007, 12:11:32 PM
From musclememory:

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=Rick+Rosello&g=M

From repetrope:

http://www.repetrope.com/men/competitors/detail.asp?CompetitorID=2810
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 12:13:44 PM
Your friend looks familiar, sorry for your loss....
he did nats and usa a coupe years back.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 12:15:37 PM
thanks matt.
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Post by: Livewire on December 11, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
how old, and what was cause of death?
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2007, 12:19:23 PM
how old, and what was cause of death?

Born in either 1966 or 1967...and I would also like to know.  :-\
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 12:39:49 PM
i heard he was complaining of chest pains. went to sleep one night and that was it.

saw him at about 250 and then about 6 months later i saw him and he was 280. "what are you doing different" i asked. "gh", was the answer.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: nder98 on December 11, 2007, 12:42:59 PM
i heard he was complaining of chest pains. went to sleep one night and that was it.

saw him at about 250 and then about 6 months later i saw him and he was 280. "what are you doing different" i asked. "gh", was the answer.

Wow, thats a shame to hear. Did he have anything like high blood pressure or any other obvious health issues that may have came up in a check up?
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Rearden Metal on December 11, 2007, 12:45:17 PM
Sorry to hear it.

I think I'm gonna go for the health look.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 12:52:57 PM
RIP but i'm calling bullshit on the weight claims, looks 250-255 in the first pic and 230 in the second, still a big thick dude though.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 12:56:47 PM
i saw him step on the scale, no i dont have pics. talked to other local bb'ers that knew him and they all expressed how massive he was getting and that he looked like he was going to pop. former natl competitor segio pacheco can back up the claims.
it all doesnt really matter now he is not with us anymore. cool guy, never talked shit.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 12:58:50 PM
i saw him step on the scale, no i dont have pics. talked to other local bb'ers that knew him and they all expressed how massive he was getting and that he looked like he was going to pop. former natl competitor segio pacheco can back up the claims.
it all doesnt really matter now he is not with us anymore. cool guy, never talked shit.
sorry man, like i said he's a big dude but NOWHERE NEAR 283 pounds at 5'8", that's Cutler's size.
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Post by: tom joad on December 11, 2007, 12:59:31 PM
he looked like he was going to pop

did that turn out to be the cause of death?
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 01:03:35 PM
sorry man, like i said he's a big dude but NOWHERE NEAR 283 pounds at 5'8", that's Cutler's size.
whatever man, you dont know, i do. hope you have a good Christmas.

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 01:04:37 PM
whatever man, you dont know, i do. hope you have a good Christmas.


Merry Christmas to you as well...........but i'm still calling bullshit.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 01:05:19 PM
did that turn out to be the cause of death?
i think the heart popped.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Master on December 11, 2007, 01:09:58 PM
No offence, but he made a choice and paid the consequences.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 01:12:25 PM
5'8" 250 pounds , big dude, RIP.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: muscularny on December 11, 2007, 01:12:50 PM
you are full of fucking shit

a) he no 280 or 230

b) if you are curious about GH ask dont start shit to get answers and NO GH will not add 20pounds in 6 months and not even 1 pound in 6 months

fucking idiots here
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The True Adonis on December 11, 2007, 01:14:13 PM
A TRUE friend would have intervened to halt his rampant steroid abuse.  This would have surely saved his life.  Mr. Rosella could then have furthered a better legacy than dual threads on a comical bodybuilding message board.  A shame what he was reduced to.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 01:14:43 PM
A TRUE friend would have intervened to halt his rampant steroid abuse.  This would have surely saved his life.  Mr. Rosella could then have furthered a better legacy than dual threads on a comical bodybuilding message board.  A shame what he was reduced to.
agreed.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: BayGBM on December 11, 2007, 01:17:51 PM
A TRUE friend would have intervened to halt his rampant steroid abuse.  This would have surely saved his life.  Mr. Rosella could then have furthered a better legacy than dual threads on a comical bodybuilding message board.  A shame what he was reduced to.
:-[ :'(

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 01:22:30 PM
you are full of fucking shit

a) he no 280 or 230

b) if you are curious about GH ask dont start shit to get answers and NO GH will not add 20pounds in 6 months and not even 1 pound in 6 months

fucking idiots here
go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 01:23:46 PM
you are full of fucking shit

a) he no 280 or 230

b) if you are curious about GH ask dont start shit to get answers and NO GH will not add 20pounds in 6 months and not even 1 pound in 6 months

fucking idiots here
it says he was 280 on repetrope and i saw the scale, hope this helps.

he was on alot of shit and ate well.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: duncanlukas on December 11, 2007, 01:25:11 PM
i believe that he was 280..he looks 280..ya cutler is 280, with fucking 4 percent bf..this guy looks at least 10 percent but hes still fucking huge...
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
i believe that he was 280..he looks 280..ya cutler is 280, with fucking 4 percent bf..this guy looks at least 10 percent but hes still fucking huge...
no way on earth, 245-250 TOPS.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2007, 01:31:41 PM
A TRUE friend would have intervened to halt his rampant steroid abuse.  This would have surely saved his life.  Mr. Rosella could then have furthered a better legacy than dual threads on a comical bodybuilding message board.  A shame what he was reduced to.

Perhaps, but if all he did was a lot of steroids and GH, he probably would have died young anyway.  Bodybuilding bulking drugs don't cause sudden deaths (excluding insulin).
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: disco_stu on December 11, 2007, 01:52:58 PM
phuk you're a tool SF. hes nowhere as lean as cutler..

man you must have never topped 200 coz everything is BS in your book.

i dont train anymore- got sick of eating and being hungry all the time which interfered with my day job so one day i thought i would just give it up and concentrate on soemthing else..like work, family, hobbies.

i made it to 120kg at 10% bf at 6'1" and soon after was 130kg at 18% BF..i spent years at 110kg at 7% bfat...which means lean muscle mass was around 102-108kg...thats nearly 240 with zero BFat and i was no pro..

there's gotta be half a dozen guys in our state of 1 million at least this size and dozens of them..probably 100s in australia's 20 million population...and these are just bikers, weight trainers and guys who just train for fun..not counting the competitive guys who've got another 20-40lbs on that...

whats more- none of us- well only a VERY small % (less than 1% use GH)..

so the way i see it its very possible to attain 300lb at medium BF levels and around 6' tall without GH and without being good enough- or wanting to compete.

so why couldnt a national level competitior- from a population 15 times that of ours here be 285lb and 5'8''- using GH and lord knows what?

he looks over 10% BFat to me- probably 12% or so...so at 285lb thats 251lb lean tissue (ignoring water which could be 10lb or more)

251 lean tissue at 68 inches height is 3.7lb/inch height.

as i said- even humble old moi achieved 3.25lb/inch and i never touched GH and didnt use gear in huge amounts like plenty of others.

heck ive even got lifetime natty mates who refuse to use weighing in at 220lb at 10%BF and are under 6' tall...one is 5'10''- hes been 100-103kg for the past 5 years and lean..thats 220-226 NEVER USED-EVER.  that's nearly 3 lb/inch muscle tissue..and he's probably carrying nowhere near the water all the users are carrying.

and another thing- some people just weigh more than you think they should. When i started- i was always alot heavier than i looked..i was a very skinny 70kg (154lb) but spent from ages 6 through 18 running track so my pins were lean  and dense..most of my Bweight was stacked densely in my legs.

when going to the gym with friends of similar build- i always weighed as much as 20lb more than them...without any real noticable size difference.

we had a genetic freak also at our gym that people swore he just needed to visit (not train) the gym in order to grow...a mix of dutch/asian  which gave him some pretty darn good qualities for BB..almost no naturally growing bodyhair- clear, clean skin, dense muscle and a classic frame.

he often trained 3 months per year just for a show- and then not at all the rest..walked away with title after title. he was 5'9'' or 10'' and stepped onstage at over 220 without trying- apparently he used a splash of deca during his 3 month traiing cycle to "get lean"...lol

i dont ned to say how jealous everyone was of him..and he didnt even talk it up or make a deal of it.

to this day we all wonder what couldve been if he was half serious, ate right, etc...he was known for consuming entire containers of icecream even when preparing for a show and was seen regularly munching on a bag of chips, saying yes to an offered donut, and having a casual cigarette.

so what's so unbelievable about a 5'8'' guy with over 10% BF on gear, GH and training seriously?

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 01:54:58 PM
phuk you're a tool SF. hes nowhere as lean as cutler..

man you must have never topped 200 coz everything is BS in your book.

i dont train anymore- got sick of eating and being hungry all the time which interfered with my day job so one day i thought i would just give it up and concentrate on soemthing else..like work, family, hobbies.

i made it to 120kg at 10% bf at 6'1" and soon after was 130kg at 18% BF..i spent years at 110kg at 7% bfat...which means lean muscle mass was around 102-108kg...thats nearly 240 with zero BFat and i was no pro..

there's gotta be half a dozen guys in our state of 1 million at least this size and dozens of them..probably 100s in australia's 20 million population...and these are just bikers, weight trainers and guys who just train for fun..not counting the competitive guys who've got another 20-40lbs on that...

whats more- none of us- well only a VERY small % (less than 1% use GH)..

so the way i see it its very possible to attain 300lb at medium BF levels and around 6' tall without GH and without being good enough- or wanting to compete.

so why couldnt a national level competitior- from a population 15 times that of ours here be 285lb and 5'8''- using GH and lord knows what?

he looks over 10% BFat to me- probably 12% or so...so at 285lb thats 251lb lean tissue (ignoring water which could be 10lb or more)

251 lean tissue at 68 inches height is 3.7lb/inch height.

as i said- even humble old moi achieved 3.25lb/inch and i never touched GH and didnt use gear in huge amounts like plenty of others.

heck ive even got lifetime natty mates who refuse to use weighing in at 220lb at 10%BF and are under 6' tall...one is 5'10''- hes been 100-103kg for the past 5 years and lean..thats 220-226 NEVER USED-EVER.  that's nearly 3 lb/inch muscle tissue..and he's probably carrying nowhere near the water all the users are carrying.

and another thing- some people just weigh more than you think they should. When i started- i was always alot heavier than i looked..i was a very skinny 70kg (154lb) but spent from ages 6 through 18 running track so my pins were lean  and dense..most of my Bweight was stacked densely in my legs.

when going to the gym with friends of similar build- i always weighed as much as 20lb more than them...without any real noticable size difference.

we had a genetic freak also at our gym that people swore he just needed to visit (not train) the gym in order to grow...a mix of dutch/asian  which gave him some pretty darn good qualities for BB..almost no naturally growing bodyhair- clear, clean skin, dense muscle and a classic frame.

he often trained 3 months per year just for a show- and then not at all the rest..walked away with title after title. he was 5'9'' or 10'' and stepped onstage at over 220 without trying- apparently he used a splash of deca during his 3 month traiing cycle to "get lean"...lol

i dont ned to say how jealous everyone was of him..and he didnt even talk it up or make a deal of it.

to this day we all wonder what couldve been if he was half serious, ate right, etc...he was known for consuming entire containers of icecream even when preparing for a show and was seen regularly munching on a bag of chips, saying yes to an offered donut, and having a casual cigarette.

so what's so unbelievable about a 5'8'' guy with over 10% BF on gear, GH and training seriously?


let's see a picture "big guy".
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: disco_stu on December 11, 2007, 01:58:01 PM
you are full of fucking shit

a) he no 280 or 230

b) if you are curious about GH ask dont start shit to get answers and NO GH will not add 20pounds in 6 months and not even 1 pound in 6 months

fucking idiots here

another fool. i cant count how many guys ive seen put 40lbs- let alone 20 lbs on in a matter of weeks- not months after starting GH.

where are you people coming from?!!!...honestly you dont havea  clue. if i used GH and didnt put on 20lb in the first 4 weeks i would just give it up and forget it..it aint going to do it for me.

heck i put on 35lb in my first 6 weeks of ever touching AS...the gains after that slowed for sure..but i never went backward.

one summer i left university at 82kg- a full 12 kg gain after 10 months of natural weight training seriously..and came back the following summer after starting gear at 106kg. thats 24kg in 4 months..or about 3.5lb per week ignoring water. i probably had 6-8kg of water still, so my lean mass was still under 95kg...

stories like mine are not unusual..which is why i cant believe what i am reading here when some guys call BS.

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 01:58:37 PM
he told me about slin usage too.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Master on December 11, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
Perhaps, but if all he did was a lot of steroids and GH, he probably would have died young anyway.  Bodybuilding bulking drugs don't cause sudden deaths (excluding insulin).

Wrong. They can influence the heart, and heart attack = sudden death.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 01:59:36 PM
another fool. i cant count how many guys ive seen put 40lbs- let alone 20 lbs on in a matter of weeks- not months after starting GH.

where are you people coming from?!!!...honestly you dont havea  clue. if i used GH and didnt put on 20lb in the first 4 weeks i would just give it up and forget it..it aint going to do it for me.

heck i put on 35lb in my first 6 weeks of ever touching AS...the gains after that slowed for sure..but i never went backward.

one summer i left university at 82kg- a full 12 kg gain after 10 months of natural weight training seriously..and came back the following summer after starting gear at 106kg. thats 24kg in 4 months..or about 3.5lb per week ignoring water. i probably had 6-8kg of water still, so my lean mass was still under 95kg...

stories like mine are not unusual..which is why i cant believe what i am reading here when some guys call BS.


you sound like a genetic freak man, 35 pounds of muscle on your first cycle and 265 pounds at sub 10 percent BF at 6'1", post a picture , you must be a beast.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: disco_stu on December 11, 2007, 02:02:50 PM
i believe that he was 280..he looks 280..ya cutler is 280, with fucking 4 percent bf..this guy looks at least 10 percent but hes still fucking huge...

exactly...couldnt agree more. when jay is 285 he has no water and is about 4% bfat. thats 274lb lean tissue.

this guy probably has 20lb of water and is at least 10% bfat.. which means he is carrying 237lb lean tissue. When jay steps onstage he sacrifices alot of muscle going low in BFat and water- so he probably carries 290lb of lean tissue during offseason-maybe more.

so again 290lb at 6' is 4lb/inch.

and this guy is claiming 237lb at 5'-8'' which is 3.5lb/inch.

very very believable indeed.

another example..flex wheeler at 230lb and 5-11" at 3% bfat onstage... that's "only 3.15lb/inch yet how massive did he look mid season whilst working out?- illusions also have alot to do with it.

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Master on December 11, 2007, 02:05:01 PM
he told me about slin usage too.


Why did you post these pictures of him?

1: You knew you and him = gonna be flamed, yet you react with aggression and hurt. Why do you purposely want to hurt yourself and your friends rep?

2: You are telling the world about his drug history.

3: This is not to "honor him" unless you have some twisted ideas about honoring teh dead.


He was a big fellow, and he paid the price for his choices. THat's it.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: disco_stu on December 11, 2007, 02:05:26 PM
you sound like a genetic freak man, 35 pounds of muscle on your first cycle and 265 pounds at sub 10 percent BF at 6'1", post a picture , you must be a beast.

actually no- like i said... maybe you are just unable to build muscle so when someone does you go all green and call BS because you have some ego and psychological problem related to narcissism and social phobia.

like i said..i can walk into the local hells angels, the finks, the rebels, the gypsy jokers and find a dozen guys standing between 5'8 and 6'2'' all sporting 19-21 inch arms and all weighing 250+...

im sure its no different everywhere else.

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: disco_stu on December 11, 2007, 02:11:38 PM
you sound like a genetic freak man, 35 pounds of muscle on your first cycle and 265 pounds at sub 10 percent BF at 6'1", post a picture , you must be a beast.

i have pics of course..but ive never felt any need to prove a point to fools..rather accept them for just that- being fools. my traiing days are done..this thread is making a point that this claim is no way unbelieveable and i offer more than several anecdotes to back it up.

how about this then?- do you believe this?- at my gym we had the number 4 ranked powerlifter in the world training there for the 70kg class... he didnt look like a weight trainer, wasnt massive- or even very muscular at all..yet he came in and banged out 100s of kg in the 3 disciplines ever time he trained.. guys twice his weight werent lifting as much- not even close... is this BS too?

and yet another guy who came in every once ina  while..weighing 175 or so regularly repped out at 250+ benches, went over 300 for reps and finished with 3 sets of 12 dumb bell presses using the 120lb bells- as a finishing exercise....i suppose that's BS too?

i know this is all true coz ive seen it with my own eyes many times..

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 02:24:28 PM

Why did you post these pictures of him?

1: You knew you and him = gonna be flamed, yet you react with aggression and hurt. Why do you purposely want to hurt yourself and your friends rep?

2: You are telling the world about his drug history.

3: This is not to "honor him" unless you have some twisted ideas about honoring teh dead.


He was a big fellow, and he paid the price for his choices. THat's it.
im not hurt, some of you are fools that is all. who cares about reps? im not honoring him here, that is not what this is about. that was another thread.

im not telling his drug history, everyone can see he used aas, and more than likely gh and slin. this is a bb board. hope this helps.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: BigSexy50 on December 11, 2007, 03:17:52 PM
you are full of fucking shit

a) he no 280 or 230

b) if you are curious about GH ask dont start shit to get answers and NO GH will not add 20pounds in 6 months and not even 1 pound in 6 months

fucking idiots here

You must have been using some lousy GH to not gain 1 pound in 6 months.  8 ius brown tops from China and I put on 6 pounds in 3 days.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Bast000 on December 11, 2007, 03:24:17 PM
from repetrope:

5-7 196


Delta is claiming he was 87lbs over his contest weight in that picture.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Master on December 11, 2007, 03:25:33 PM
im not hurt, some of you are fools that is all. who cares about reps? im not honoring him here, that is not what this is about. that was another thread.

im not telling his drug history, everyone can see he used aas, and more than likely gh and slin. this is a bb board. hope this helps.


YOu need DEbussey and Gary Busey. It is very clear. You are lost. You need him.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: LATS on December 11, 2007, 04:01:12 PM
 well.. it really does not matter what he weighed.. he was very big and pretty lean.. he suffered from very high blood pressure.. even before he started lifting the blood pressure was a concern.. the high bodyweight and gear did not help the issue either.. add in straining on a daily basis and you have a recipe for disaster.. he was told that the blood pressure must be kept under control.. he , like many of us, thought he was going to be fine. such was not the case.. also, as for the gh question.. anyone who knows anything about gh knows that it will not put on 30 pounds of muscle on a individual in a short period of time.. aint happening.. now, slin, used correctly is a different story.. gh will make many hold water and that could be some of the weight gain issues associated with gh.. a few pounds at most in the initial few weeks.. (not a slam meant for delta since he was just repeating what he heard )..
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 04:01:36 PM
from repetrope:

5-7 196


Delta is claiming he was 87lbs over his contest weight in that picture.
stupid ass that is his stage weight
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 04:02:05 PM
stupid ass that is his stage weight
so he was 90 pounds over his contest weight? ::)
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 11, 2007, 04:14:47 PM
CONTEST HISTORY

2004

National Bodybuilding, Fitness & Figure Championships
   Men: Light Heavyweight (16th)

2002

USA Bodybuilding Championships - NPC
   Men: Light Heavyweight Class (9th)
   Competition Photos

Height: 5'8"
Weight: 280
DOB: 4/2
Residence: Miami, Florida
Occupation: Personal Trainer

from MD online. you know the armature's go to extremes. he dieted down to the top of the light heavies.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 04:18:40 PM
CONTEST HISTORY

2004

National Bodybuilding, Fitness & Figure Championships
   Men: Light Heavyweight (16th)

2002

USA Bodybuilding Championships - NPC
   Men: Light Heavyweight Class (9th)
   Competition Photos

Height: 5'8"
Weight: 280
DOB: 4/2
Residence: Miami, Florida
Occupation: Personal Trainer

from MD online. you know the armature's go to extremes. he dieted down to the top of the light heavies.

and we're supposed to believe it just because that's what they have him listed at?
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: dov on December 11, 2007, 04:23:58 PM
pics are pretty shitty, but...1st pic 250 ish...2nd pic 230
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 11, 2007, 04:25:31 PM
pics are pretty shitty, but...1st pic 250 ish...2nd pic 230
exactly.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Bast000 on December 11, 2007, 06:29:36 PM
so 87lbs over his contest weight, he would be what body fat?  35% at least   He doesn't look that fat in that pic to me.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 11, 2007, 06:36:25 PM
I love how when a guy dies, the thread quickly evolves into how much he weighed.  :-\
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Bast000 on December 11, 2007, 06:58:45 PM
I love how when a guy dies, the thread quickly evolves into how much he weighed.  :-\

shit happens
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: affy on December 11, 2007, 07:02:32 PM
i didnt get many pics..... this next one was previous to the first one, 257 lbs.
RIP and all..but this guy must be a world record holder for the biggest head on the planet
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: War-Horse on December 11, 2007, 07:10:34 PM
Disco-stu makes alot of sense.  Ive seen recreational lifters with insane genetics and not the slightest interest in "Taking it to the max" training.

Like he said Flex wheelers 3lbs per inch of height looked better than some guys 4lbs.........Your either born dense and heaviar or lighter with great lines.

Some Horses are clydsdales, some are racers.........makes the world interesting.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Bast000 on December 11, 2007, 07:14:41 PM
Disco-stu makes alot of sense.  Ive seen recreational lifters with insane genetics and not the slightest interest in "Taking it to the max" training.

Like he said Flex wheelers 3lbs per inch of height looked better than some guys 4lbs.........Your either born dense and heaviar or lighter with great lines.

Some Horses are clydsdales, some are racers.........makes the world interesting.

I think to an extent, any stimulation is enough stimulation.  You don't have to have a 2 hour drawn out workout to stimulate the muscles.

Kind of like being with a girl, 45 seconds, you can get the job done.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: SGT BARNES on December 12, 2007, 01:25:44 AM
tens of thousands of humans die every day on this planet. some of them children from starvation and preventable disease.

so some gym rat who decides to pop his heart from use of hormones and whatever else is not deserving of sympathy.

Fuck him and fuck you for doing nothing while it was happening and then coming here to try to drum up sympathy and attention.

He chose his death. stop wrapping yourself around him and trying to make him a martyr for your personal needs.

....and aint no way he was 280lbs in your strange pic.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: DK II on December 12, 2007, 01:39:19 AM
tens of thousands of humans die every day on this planet. some of them children from starvation and preventable didease.

so some gym rat who decides to pop his heart from use of hormones and whatever else is not deserving of sympathy.

Fuck him and fuck you for doing nothing while it was happening and then coming here to try to drum up sympathy and attention.

He chose his death. stop wrapping yourself around him and trying to make him a martyr for your personal needs.

....and aint no way he was 280lbs in your strange pic.

I agree.

He committed suicide because he wanted to be a beast. Congratulations on that.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 12, 2007, 06:33:35 AM
tens of thousands of humans die every day on this planet. some of them children from starvation and preventable disease.

so some gym rat who decides to pop his heart from use of hormones and whatever else is not deserving of sympathy.

Fuck him and fuck you for doing nothing while it was happening and then coming here to try to drum up sympathy and attention.

He chose his death. stop wrapping yourself around him and trying to make him a martyr for your personal needs.

....and aint no way he was 280lbs in your strange pic.
you point of view is way out there. what do you mean doing nothing. i didnt see the guy for 4-5 months since i last saw him. you people dont understand, you dont tell someone to stop. should i tell the pros that are in the gym i train at to stop using and "save their life"? yeah right. im not looking for sympathy either. far from it. im not really surprised that this could happen, he was deffo on alot of stuff.

i feel anger in your words, get some help. all i was doing was posting pics of a huge mofo and some of you go off. kinda funny on your parts.

Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: CalvinH on December 12, 2007, 07:46:38 AM
Nuthin like arguing over a dead guy.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Rearden Metal on December 12, 2007, 07:53:36 AM
Guys whether you use gear or not, you can have health problems and die young. All the more reason that if you decide to use, get your blood checked semi-annually and keep on top of things.

Nothing is worth being dead at 40.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: delta9mda on December 12, 2007, 09:27:42 AM
Nuthin like arguing over a dead guy.
agreed.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Master on December 12, 2007, 05:13:46 PM
Guys whether you use gear or not, you can have health problems and die young. All the more reason that if you decide to use, get your blood checked semi-annually and keep on top of things.

Nothing is worth being dead at 40.

You = wrong. Dying at 40, after being an blown up roid monkey iron warrior your entire life is the best and most honorable way to die. Look at this guy. He is an insipiration to us all. We should be greatful for Delta9tetraHydroCannabin ol being willing to share this inspirational and high quality humans destiny with us all.

Delta 9 is the messenger from god.
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Anabolic Outlaw on December 12, 2007, 09:26:28 PM
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: - Hebrews 9:27 (KJV)
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on December 12, 2007, 09:27:56 PM
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: - Hebrews 9:27 (KJV)

Without this contribution, this thread would be meaningless ::)
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: disco_stu on December 13, 2007, 01:28:01 PM
You must have been using some lousy GH to not gain 1 pound in 6 months.  8 ius brown tops from China and I put on 6 pounds in 3 days.

bingo..
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: The Squadfather on December 13, 2007, 01:30:01 PM
You must have been using some lousy GH to not gain 1 pound in 6 months.  8 ius brown tops from China and I put on 6 pounds in 3 days.
hahahaha, "6 pounds in 3 days", all muscle too, right? ::)
Title: Re: 5'-8" 283LBS
Post by: Stavios on December 13, 2007, 05:41:16 PM
6 lbs in 3 days, that's only water retention