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Gaspari posted this warning...
WARNING: VPX's NO-Shotgun & BSN's CellMass contain traces of Coumarin
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Have a read: http://www.tga.gov.au/recalls/2007/vpx.htm.
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Level: Consumer Class: I
Reference: RN-2007-0691 Date agreed: 22 October 2007
Product: VPX 'No Shotgun' & BSN 'Cell Mass' Body Building Powders
Batch number: All batches
Sponsor: Crestkey Pty Ltd
Phone: 02 6281 6999 Elite Physique
Reason: These products contain traces of the prescription drug coumarin
Letters are expected to be dispatched by the sponsor within two working days of the agreed date.
ADVICE TO CONSUMERS:
If you have a container of VPX: NO SHOTGUN or BSN: CELL MASS do not use it. Return it to the place of purchase for a refund or call Elite Physique on 02 6281 6999.
Recall notices are expected to appear in the Canberra Times on Monday 29 October 2007
Classification system:
Class I defects are potentially life-threatening or could cause a serious risk to health.
Class II defects could cause illness or mistreatment, but are not Class I.
Class III defects may not pose a significant hazard to health, but withdrawal may be initiated for other reasons.
Class I & II recalls are considered to be safety related recalls.
According to the FDA, Coumarin is "prohibited from use in human food":
Quote:
Title 21--Food and Drugs
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES (CONTINUED)
PART 189--SUBSTANCES PROHIBITED FROM USE IN HUMAN FOOD
TEXT PDF 189.1 Substances prohibited from use in human food.
TEXT PDF 189.5 Prohibited cattle materials.
TEXT PDF 189.110 Calamus and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.113 Cinnamyl anthranilate.
TEXT PDF 189.120 Cobaltous salts and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.130 Coumarin.
TEXT PDF 189.135 Cyclamate and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.140 Diethylpyrocarbonate (DEPC).
TEXT PDF 189.145 Dulcin.
TEXT PDF 189.155 Monochloroacetic acid.
TEXT PDF 189.165 Nordihydroguaiaretic acid (NDGA).
TEXT PDF 189.175 P-4000.
TEXT PDF 189.180 Safrole.
TEXT PDF 189.190 Thiourea.
TEXT PDF 189.191 Chlorofluorocarbon propellants.
TEXT PDF 189.220 Flectol H.
TEXT PDF 189.240 Lead solders.
TEXT PDF 189.250 Mercaptoimidazoline and 2-mercaptoimidazoline.
TEXT PDF 189.280 4,4,,-Methylenebis (2-chloro&chyph;analine).
TEXT PDF 189.300 Hydrogenated 4,4,,-isopropyl&chyph;idene-diphenol&chyph;phosphite ester resins.
TEXT PDF 189.301 Tin-coated lead foil capsules for wine bottles.
Further, off of the FDA's EAFUS, or "Everything Added to Food in the United States":
Quote:
BAN 1991 COUMARIN--PROHIBITED 000091-64-5 189.130
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He's still bitter about constantly losing to Haney.
It's a shame he lets it get to him so much. Trashing these companies is just him lashing out. Ignore it and consume your cattle-product laced creatine, kiddies.
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Goodbye BSN
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I don't know about anyone else, but when discussing supps many people have told me from first hand experience that they thought gaspari's products were by far the crappiest they have ever used... stomach ache, cramps, the shits etc.
I have never used any of them so I don't know... anyone else deal with that stuff?
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I don't know about anyone else, but when discussing supps many people have told me from first hand experience that they thought gaspari's products were by far the crappiest they have ever used... stomach ache, cramps, the shits etc.
I have never used any of them so I don't know... anyone else deal with that stuff?
I've used a few of Gaspari's products and have nothing but good things to say. (I've never tried the super pump stuff and that is where i hear the most complaints about stomach problems.)
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http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recall_detail.php?Recall_ID_Auto=15222 (http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recall_detail.php?Recall_ID_Auto=15222)
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http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recall_detail.php?Recall_ID_Auto=15222 (http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recall_detail.php?Recall_ID_Auto=15222)
Does Ronnie and Tony Freeman know about this? Those are the only supplements they use.
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Does Ronnie and Tony Freeman know about this? Those are the only supplements they use.
Not sure but it most likely was the only thing keeping Trey Brewer and Big Ron alive, since it's a anticoagulant precursor and helped thin their blood out a bit so their heart could pump
Bless BSN
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Coumarin is a flavouring which is found in higher concentrations in the types of cinnamon grouped together under the name “cassia cinnamon”. Relatively small amounts of coumarin can already damage the liver of particularly sensitive individuals. However, this is not permanent damage. Isolated coumarin may not be added to foods.
Spoke to BSN, they said it is naturally occuring, and will give something on this soon...
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I had cinnamon in my oatmeal this morning. Should I be worried Dr. Ron?
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Coumarin is a flavouring which is found in higher concentrations in the types of cinnamon grouped together under the name “cassia cinnamon”. Relatively small amounts of coumarin can already damage the liver of particularly sensitive individuals. However, this is not permanent damage. Isolated coumarin may not be added to foods.
Ron,
Was this a statement released by their company? I ask because the writing is misleading. Just the mere fact that they state: "Relatively small amounts of coumarin can already damage the liver of particularly sensitive individuals. However, this is not permanent damage" sounds funny to me. The liver regenerates I believe if even 20% of it or so is left viable, but I don't understand what damage that is not permanent necessarily means. Does it cause an inflammation of the liver?
Bump for clearance...
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I think this statement came from Wikipedia via an email. Nothing has come from their company yet.
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Ron,
Was this a statement released by their company? I ask because the writing is misleading. Just the mere fact that they state: "Relatively small amounts of coumarin can already damage the liver of particularly sensitive individuals. However, this is not permanent damage" sounds funny to me. The liver regenerates I believe if even 20% of it or so is left viable, but I don't understand what damage that is not permanent necessarily means. Does it cause an inflammation of the liver?
Bump for clearance...
Where did you get that 20% from???
Damage that is not permanent means that it's considered a reversible injury. It means the cell can make adaptations such as hypertrophy/ atrophy/ hyperplasia etc. Bottom line, if it's reversible then after the "Stress" is eliminated, the cells RETURN back to normal. Path 101
Inflammation would also be a protective response to cellular damage, and can be both acute/chronic, so you can't use that as a marker for permanent damage either.
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How is this an 'attack'?
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wow, this is pretty interesting stuff.
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How is this an 'attack'?
vpx and bsn's competition posted the information in an attempt to ATTACK their credibilty
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I don't know about anyone else, but when discussing supps many people have told me from first hand experience that they thought gaspari's products were by far the crappiest they have ever used... stomach ache, cramps, the shits etc.
I have never used any of them so I don't know... anyone else deal with that stuff?
SIZEON was without question the BEST supplement I have ever used:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsizeonreview.html
"SuperDump2Shitty" was without question the WORST supplement I have ever used:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsuperpump250review.html
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Gaspari posted this warning...
WARNING: VPX's NO-Shotgun & BSN's CellMass contain traces of Coumarin
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Have a read: http://www.tga.gov.au/recalls/2007/vpx.htm.
Quote:
Level: Consumer Class: I
Reference: RN-2007-0691 Date agreed: 22 October 2007
Product: VPX 'No Shotgun' & BSN 'Cell Mass' Body Building Powders
Batch number: All batches
Sponsor: Crestkey Pty Ltd
Phone: 02 6281 6999 Elite Physique
Reason: These products contain traces of the prescription drug coumarin
Letters are expected to be dispatched by the sponsor within two working days of the agreed date.
ADVICE TO CONSUMERS:
If you have a container of VPX: NO SHOTGUN or BSN: CELL MASS do not use it. Return it to the place of purchase for a refund or call Elite Physique on 02 6281 6999.
Recall notices are expected to appear in the Canberra Times on Monday 29 October 2007[b/]
Classification system:
Class I defects are potentially life-threatening or could cause a serious risk to health.
Class II defects could cause illness or mistreatment, but are not Class I.
Class III defects may not pose a significant hazard to health, but withdrawal may be initiated for other reasons.
Class I & II recalls are considered to be safety related recalls.
According to the FDA, Coumarin is "prohibited from use in human food":
Quote:
Title 21--Food and Drugs
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES (CONTINUED)
PART 189--SUBSTANCES PROHIBITED FROM USE IN HUMAN FOOD
TEXT PDF 189.1 Substances prohibited from use in human food.
TEXT PDF 189.5 Prohibited cattle materials.
TEXT PDF 189.110 Calamus and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.113 Cinnamyl anthranilate.
TEXT PDF 189.120 Cobaltous salts and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.130 Coumarin.
TEXT PDF 189.135 Cyclamate and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.140 Diethylpyrocarbonate (DEPC).
TEXT PDF 189.145 Dulcin.
TEXT PDF 189.155 Monochloroacetic acid.
TEXT PDF 189.165 Nordihydroguaiaretic acid (NDGA).
TEXT PDF 189.175 P-4000.
TEXT PDF 189.180 Safrole.
TEXT PDF 189.190 Thiourea.
TEXT PDF 189.191 Chlorofluorocarbon propellants.
TEXT PDF 189.220 Flectol H.
TEXT PDF 189.240 Lead solders.
TEXT PDF 189.250 Mercaptoimidazoline and 2-mercaptoimidazoline.
TEXT PDF 189.280 4,4,,-Methylenebis (2-chloro&chyph;analine).
TEXT PDF 189.300 Hydrogenated 4,4,,-isopropyl&chyph;idene-diphenol&chyph;phosphite ester resins.
TEXT PDF 189.301 Tin-coated lead foil capsules for wine bottles.
Further, off of the FDA's EAFUS, or "Everything Added to Food in the United States":
Quote:
BAN 1991 COUMARIN--PROHIBITED 000091-64-5 189.130
Canberra times is an Australian newspaper
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vpx and bsn's competition posted the information in an attempt to ATTACK their credibilty
Dude how is it a attack when the Australian FDA tested it? FDA, not a "independent lab" aka another supplement company.
This is a precursor to one of the most dangerous anticoagulant drugs on the market, so dangerous the company may be issuing wrist bands for elderly patients in case of a emergency. This drug is one of the top drugs that has the MOST deadliest side effects when mixed with other medications.
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Where did you get that 20% from???
Regeneration
The liver is among the few internal human organs capable of natural regeneration of lost tissue; as little as 25% of remaining liver can regenerate into a whole liver again.
This is predominantly due to the hepatocytes acting as unipotential stem cells (i.e. a single hepatocyte can divide into two hepatocyte daughter cells). There is also some evidence of bipotential stem cells, called ovalocyte(o´və-lo-sīt), which exist in the Canals of Hering. These cells can differentiate into either hepatocytes or cholangiocytes (cells that line the bile ducts).
Have a read at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver) also just Path 101.. ::)
Damage that is not permanent means that it's considered a reversible injury. It means the cell can make adaptations such as hypertrophy/atrophy/ hyperplasia etc. Bottom line, if it's reversible then after the "Stress" is eliminated, the cells RETURN back to normal. Path 101
I don't know about the hypertrophy or the atrophy serving as a good in this case, since the hypertrophy would just be cells expanding and atrophy, well you get the point, but the hyperplasia could definitely aid in recovery...
Compensatory liver hyperplasia - The liver undergoes cellular division after acute injury, resulting in new cells that restore liver function back to baseline. Approximately 75% of the liver can be acutely damaged or resected with seemingly full regeneration through hepatocyte division, ie hyperplasia. This is the basis for living-donor liver transplants. ~ Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperplasia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperplasia)
Inflammation would also be a protective response to cellular damage, and can be both acute/chronic, so you can't use that as a marker for permanent damage either.
I was in no way saying that inflammation would be a marker for permanent damage, instead I was gearing towards inflammation being the reversible mechanism that might be caused due to this ingredient as opposed to full blown out damage..
Path 101...lol..
Cool?
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Dude how is it a attack when the Australian FDA tested it? FDA, not a "independent lab" aka another supplement company.
This is a precursor to one of the most dangerous anticoagulant drugs on the market, so dangerous the company may be issuing wrist bands for elderly patients in case of a emergency. This drug is one of the top drugs that has the MOST deadliest side effects when mixed with other medications.
hi rich
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Canberra times is an Australian newspaper
would you say they have more of a liberal, or conservative slant?
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would you say they have more of a liberal, or conservative slant?
Hi joelocal AKA The Coach AKA Mr. Intenseone.
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This could trigger a man hunt on all supplements..should I say another
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hi rich
who's rich?
and im just telling you it's not a "natural" thing at all. This is the stuff you have to watch out for.
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who's rich?
Hi Mr. Richard Gaspari born on May, 16th 1963 in New Jersey.
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well...I have used Gaspari's SizeOn and SuperPump...they were both awesome and I felt really big and swollen while on them....SuperPump get me going and makes me want to work out even when I don't feel like it...and I have noticed some new vascularity in my muscles.....SizeOn makes we feel really powerful and confident...I love Gaspari's products.....they are awesome!!!
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Path 101...lol..
Cool?
Very cool ;)
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I heard Superpump contains traces of pepto bismal.
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I heard Superpump contains traces of pepto bismal is ACTUALLY ex-lax.
Fixed.
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I think this statement came from Wikipedia via an email. Nothing has come from their company yet.
NICE SOURCE MATE
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this is scary
i mean i had great results from shotgun but every time i took it for 3 weeks i got bloody noses blurred vision vomitting and high blood pressure and shortness of breath
ive called vpx but they wont take my call about it
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this is scary
i mean i had great results from shotgun but every time i took it for 3 weeks i got bloody noses blurred vision vomitting and high blood pressure and shortness of breath
ive called vpx but they wont take my call about it
HAHA WHY CALLING VPX? CALL THE FUNERARY INSTEAD
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this is scary
i mean i had great results from shotgun but every time i took it for 3 weeks i got bloody noses blurred vision vomitting and high blood pressure and shortness of breath
ive called vpx but they wont take my call about it
Hey you know...come to think of it... I have been getting nosebleeds also....has this come from working out heavy?...I know Ronnie Coleman gets nosebleeds also during his workouts...not trying to put myself up there with Coleman, but is this a usual phenomenon caused by working out heavy?...also I often wonder what these NO products are doing to our livers...since they are highly concentrated with caffeine and sugars and usually taken with only about 8 oz of water...can these products hurt the liver or cause/exacerbate diabetes?...anyone got any info on this?
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Amazing how many will rationalise using poision because the "Liver can regenerate..." ::)
Well, Fuck, a bullet wound will heal up too,
99% of Sups are money stealing SHIT. Eat real food and lift and recover and quit making vulchers
wealthy...
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Hey you know...come to think of it... I have been getting nosebleeds also....has this come from working out heavy?...I know Ronnie Coleman gets nosebleeds also during his workouts...not trying to put myself up there with Coleman, but is this a usual phenomenon caused by working out heavy?...also I often wonder what these NO products are doing to our livers...since they are highly concentrated with caffeine and sugars and usually taken with only about 8 oz of water...can these products hurt the liver or cause/exacerbate diabetes?...anyone got any info on this?
ya know i never got nose bleeds before and when i began taking shotgun i would get nose bleeds ALL the time
im really wary of these stimulants now
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The whole supplement industry is one big fucking scam
Ron, please stop posting information when you have to clue as to it's validity
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Shotgun does not contain coumarin. The Australian TGA (the equivalent of our FDA) has failed to provide proof of testing Shotgun for coumarin and claims they lost the the documentation and retain samples of the 2002 lot in question. San Rafael Chemical, the most respected supplement testing agency, tested Shotgun Lot 2002 and found ND (none detected) in reagard to coumarin. VPX also tested Shotgun in house quantitativly and qualitatively via HPLC and IR and found no detectable coumarin in Shotgun. The clean N.O. Shotgun test results where posted on bodybuilding.com
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Shotgun does not contain coumarin. The Australian TGA (the equivalent of our FDA) has failed to provide proof of testing Shotgun for coumarin and claims they lost the the documentation and retain samples of the 2002 lot in question. San Rafael Chemical, the most respected supplement testing agency, tested Shotgun Lot 2002 and found ND (none detected) in reagard to coumarin. VPX also tested Shotgun in house quantitativly and qualitatively via HPLC and IR and found no detectable coumarin in Shotgun. The clean N.O. Shotgun test results where posted on bodybuilding.com
Hi VPX rep.
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Shotgun does not contain coumarin. The Australian TGA (the equivalent of our FDA) has failed to provide proof of testing Shotgun for coumarin and claims they lost the the documentation and retain samples of the 2002 lot in question. San Rafael Chemical, the most respected supplement testing agency, tested Shotgun Lot 2002 and found ND (none detected) in reagard to coumarin. VPX also tested Shotgun in house quantitativly and qualitatively via HPLC and IR and found no detectable coumarin in Shotgun. The clean N.O. Shotgun test results where posted on bodybuilding.com
all the side effects u get from coumarin i had while taking shotgun
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If something had coumarin in it, wouldn't we want to go out and get it? I mean wouldn't that like make your blood less viscous so you could keep a "more positive nitrogen balance" or something?
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If something had coumarin in it, wouldn't we want to go out and get it? I mean wouldn't that like make your blood less viscous so you could keep a "more positive nitrogen balance" or something?
Hi Milos.
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where did "gaspari" post this....cause rich doesn;t go on boards or online
Gaspari posted this warning...
WARNING: VPX's NO-Shotgun & BSN's CellMass contain traces of Coumarin
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Have a read: http://www.tga.gov.au/recalls/2007/vpx.htm.
Quote:
Level: Consumer Class: I
Reference: RN-2007-0691 Date agreed: 22 October 2007
Product: VPX 'No Shotgun' & BSN 'Cell Mass' Body Building Powders
Batch number: All batches
Sponsor: Crestkey Pty Ltd
Phone: 02 6281 6999 Elite Physique
Reason: These products contain traces of the prescription drug coumarin
Letters are expected to be dispatched by the sponsor within two working days of the agreed date.
ADVICE TO CONSUMERS:
If you have a container of VPX: NO SHOTGUN or BSN: CELL MASS do not use it. Return it to the place of purchase for a refund or call Elite Physique on 02 6281 6999.
Recall notices are expected to appear in the Canberra Times on Monday 29 October 2007
Classification system:
Class I defects are potentially life-threatening or could cause a serious risk to health.
Class II defects could cause illness or mistreatment, but are not Class I.
Class III defects may not pose a significant hazard to health, but withdrawal may be initiated for other reasons.
Class I & II recalls are considered to be safety related recalls.
According to the FDA, Coumarin is "prohibited from use in human food":
Quote:
Title 21--Food and Drugs
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES (CONTINUED)
PART 189--SUBSTANCES PROHIBITED FROM USE IN HUMAN FOOD
TEXT PDF 189.1 Substances prohibited from use in human food.
TEXT PDF 189.5 Prohibited cattle materials.
TEXT PDF 189.110 Calamus and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.113 Cinnamyl anthranilate.
TEXT PDF 189.120 Cobaltous salts and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.130 Coumarin.
TEXT PDF 189.135 Cyclamate and its derivatives.
TEXT PDF 189.140 Diethylpyrocarbonate (DEPC).
TEXT PDF 189.145 Dulcin.
TEXT PDF 189.155 Monochloroacetic acid.
TEXT PDF 189.165 Nordihydroguaiaretic acid (NDGA).
TEXT PDF 189.175 P-4000.
TEXT PDF 189.180 Safrole.
TEXT PDF 189.190 Thiourea.
TEXT PDF 189.191 Chlorofluorocarbon propellants.
TEXT PDF 189.220 Flectol H.
TEXT PDF 189.240 Lead solders.
TEXT PDF 189.250 Mercaptoimidazoline and 2-mercaptoimidazoline.
TEXT PDF 189.280 4,4,,-Methylenebis (2-chloro&chyph;analine).
TEXT PDF 189.300 Hydrogenated 4,4,,-isopropyl&chyph;idene-diphenol&chyph;phosphite ester resins.
TEXT PDF 189.301 Tin-coated lead foil capsules for wine bottles.
Further, off of the FDA's EAFUS, or "Everything Added to Food in the United States":
Quote:
BAN 1991 COUMARIN--PROHIBITED 000091-64-5 189.130
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another desperate attempt by spicy sushi to bring attetion to himself....come say hi to me at the arnold
you post photos of yourself to show how massive you've getting hit by deer, jumped by ninja turtles and shooting your eye out.... ::) epic insecurity from dullboy...
you should ask your sponsors if they posted it online or not before sounding off like a clueless dickweed... gaspari nutrition posted it on a public bulletin... not your sugar daddy rich...
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well...I have used Gaspari's SizeOn and SuperPump...they were both awesome and I felt really big and swollen while on them....SuperPump get me going and makes me want to work out even when I don't feel like it...and I have noticed some new vascularity in my muscles.....SizeOn makes we feel really powerful and confident...I love Gaspari's products.....they are awesome!!!
Thanks Mrs. Gaspari
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well...I have used Gaspari's SizeOn and SuperPump...they were both awesome and I felt really big and swollen while on them....SuperPump get me going and makes me want to work out even when I don't feel like it...and I have noticed some new vascularity in my muscles.....SizeOn makes we feel really powerful and confident...I love Gaspari's products.....they are awesome!!!
Hi Mr. Gaspari.
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you post photos of yourself to show how massive you've getting hit by deer, jumped by ninja turtles and shooting your eye out.... ::) epic insecurity from dullboy...
you should ask your sponsors if they posted it online or not before sounding off like a clueless dickweed... gaspari nutrition posted it on a public bulletin... not your sugar daddy rich...
how does any of that show insecurity? you are massively delusional, why not show me who you are already still diodn;t answer my question bitch ....where was it posted? and i am not even doing the to defend gaspari i just fucking plain hate your pathetic ass you fucking closet lurking schmo
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spicy sushi is Nasser.
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vpx and bsn's competition posted the information in an attempt to ATTACK their credibilty
Its a recall issued by the FDA. How is that an attack by Gaspari? Is he in a conspiracy with the federal government to put BSN out of business? 240--speak on this conspiracy please.
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Hey you know...come to think of it... I have been getting nosebleeds also....has this come from working out heavy?...I know Ronnie Coleman gets nosebleeds also during his workouts...not trying to put myself up there with Coleman, but is this a usual phenomenon caused by working out heavy?...also I often wonder what these NO products are doing to our livers...since they are highly concentrated with caffeine and sugars and usually taken with only about 8 oz of water...can these products hurt the liver or cause/exacerbate diabetes?...anyone got any info on this?
nose bleeds are from the coke. hope this helps
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Hey you know...come to think of it... I have been getting nosebleeds also....has this come from working out heavy?...I know Ronnie Coleman gets nosebleeds also during his workouts...not trying to put myself up there with Coleman, but is this a usual phenomenon caused by working out heavy?...also I often wonder what these NO products are doing to our livers...since they are highly concentrated with caffeine and sugars and usually taken with only about 8 oz of water...can these products hurt the liver or cause/exacerbate diabetes?...anyone got any info on this?
It was kind of disturbing to see those training pictures where Ronnie's nose started to bleed. :-\
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nose bleeds are from the coke. hope this helps
AAS cause greater prothrombin time (look it up dumbass)
Try some 'drol on for size and see how you bleed ;)
The level of ignorance is astounding here.
All these sups are trash.
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AAS cause greater prothrombin time (look it up dumbass)
Try some 'drol on for size and see how you bleed ;)
The level of ignorance is astounding here.
All these sups are trash.
You really are retarded, aren't you son?
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You really are retarded, aren't you son?
Fuck you little boy jerk... Ive forgoten more about AAS than you will ever know.
Them nose bleeds are from massive load of red cells. Not some phony sup.
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Fuck you little boy jerk... Ive forgoten more about AAS than you will ever know.
Them nose bleeds are from massive load of red cells. Not some phony sup.
Damn, gotta be one of quickest meltdw.ns in all of getbig history. But seriously, are you developmentally disabled? Or maybe a brain injury? Which is it?
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how does any of that show insecurity? you are massively delusional, why not show me who you are already still diodn;t answer my question bitch ....where was it posted? and i am not even doing the to defend gaspari i just fucking plain hate your pathetic ass you fucking closet lurking schmo
posting photos of yourself looking for approval...dullboy insecurity...show you who i am so you can try to beat me up like your ex girlfriend? it was posted by some idiot from gaspari online...ask them they will tell you...posting information about your competitors on your own web pages...shitty business...
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.posting information about your competitors on your own web pages...shitty business...
Gaspari should read this and learn how the big boys play ball
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202439,00.html
something tells me karma will catch up with him sooner or later...
You just don't do that type of stuff...Its not like it wouldn't have gotten out anyway...
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posting photos of yourself looking for approval...dullboy insecurity...show you who i am so you can try to beat me up like your ex girlfriend? it was posted by some idiot from gaspari online...ask them they will tell you...posting information about your competitors on your own web pages...shitty business...
thats the companies forums whats posted ther eis not controlled by anyone....... post the link and i am sure this is what it will show
beat up my last girlfriend? wow youare way off base bro more bullshit you spout.... youare fucking joke. ask any girl i have ever banged if i hit them, hell there has got to be a few dozen walking around the expo lol they are easier to find then you i don;t need reassurance by anybody on this board i just pu tmy pictures up to back up what i say so i don"t talk shit like people.....well you lol
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posting photos of yourself looking for approval...dzulboy insecurity...show you who i am so you can try to beat me up like your ex girlfriend?
i banged dzulboy with my girlfriend and he didn't hit either one of us......
LMAO
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jon dilauro of extreme labs attacked gaspari at the olympia expo, he went up to gaspari and told him he would put $1,000.00 that his supplemets would test out legit and more powerful than gaspari.........gaspari couldnt defend his supplements or put his money on them. Extreme labs is the best stuff out there.
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jon dilauro of extreme labs attacked gaspari at the olympia expo, he went up to gaspari and told him he would put $1,000.00 that his supplemets would test out legit and more powerful than gaspari.........gaspari couldnt defend his supplements or put his money on them. Extreme labs is the best stuff out there.
ar eyou saying thats who spicy sushi is?
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i banged dzulboy with my girlfriend and he didn't hit either one of us......
LMAO
you have a bigger penoris than dzulboy?
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thats the companies forums whats posted ther eis not controlled by anyone....... post the link and i am sure this is what it will show
big stud posting on getbig on new years eve...here is your proof shotupboy...now go tell daddy gaspari that is was his own people like i said
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i banged dzulboy with my girlfriend and he didn't hit either one of us......
LMAO
worthless without pics ;D
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big stud posting on getbig on new years eve...here is your proof shotupboy...now go tell daddy gaspari that is was his own people like i said
that looks like a direct quote from a gov website shit stain and it doesn;t say who posted it