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GH15, you have proclaimed that your words are the “gold standard.” Well, let’s see the level of your knowledge.
I’ve seen you answer numerous questions and make several general claims, i.e. UG gear is junk, pro’s stay on year round, you have to use gh and slin to be pro size, etc.
OK, fine, then for all the inquiring minds, answer and give your thoughts to some relatively basic questions…questions that anyone with sound gear knowledge should have some sort of sain opinion about.
For these questions, we’ll assume that they are to be answered to someone who is already an advanced bodybuilder….not pro but well versed.
1. Long estered testosterone does not have to be injected as frequently as shorter estered testosterones to receive testosterone benefits. Let’s say you want to inject 1200mg/test-enanthate per wk, how would you advise spacing this out? 2xwk or eod or even ed protocol?
2. GH, what is the minimal dose for muscle gains and how would you space it out daily?
3. Peptide fragments, your thoughts.
4. HCG, time frame, i.e. when if at all.
5. AI’s yes or no, how often?
6. Oral AAS, a waste or not? If not, which ones and why?
7. Stacking things like eq, tren and deca in the same stack.
8. The use of thyroid meds for other reasons beyond fat lass.
9. Even if it is a long estered, slow acting testosterone you’re taking, assuming it’s quality test, you should feel it within the first wk….true or false?
10. Roid rage is real. True or false?
OK, that’s it for now. I think these are very, very basic questions that anyone with supposed knowledge on the subject should be able to answer without rambling but with concise to the point answers.
Last off, I’m not looking to own you or any bullshit like that…if I was after that, I would have asked in-depth questions, but I’ll save that for next time…depending on how you answer here.
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The answer will be: GH15 CANT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO EASY AND I DONT WANT TO EXPOSE MY REAL IDENTITY BECAUSE I AM A REAL IFBB PRO AND MY WORD IS GOLD IN THE BODYBUILDING FITNESS INDUSTRY.
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gh15
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gh15.... Arnold Jr is kind of a douche, in case you haven't figured it out. He once "banned" me from the steroids board, despite the fact that I've never made a post on the steroid board to begin with! ::)
However, that said....
... AT LEAST HE DOESN'T BELIEVE LITTLE GREEN MEN FROM MARS BUILT THE PYRAMIDS! :D
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GH15, you have proclaimed that your words are the “gold standard.” Well, let’s see the level of your knowledge.
I’ve seen you answer numerous questions and make several general claims, i.e. UG gear is junk, pro’s stay on year round, you have to use gh and slin to be pro size, etc.
OK, fine, then for all the inquiring minds, answer and give your thoughts to some relatively basic questions…questions that anyone with sound gear knowledge should have some sort of sain opinion about.
For these questions, we’ll assume that they are to be answered to someone who is already an advanced bodybuilder….not pro but well versed.
1. Long estered testosterone does not have to be injected as frequently as shorter estered testosterones to receive testosterone benefits. Let’s say you want to inject 1200mg/test-enanthate per wk, how would you advise spacing this out? 2xwk or eod or even ed protocol?
2. GH, what is the minimal dose for muscle gains and how would you space it out daily?
3. Peptide fragments, your thoughts.
4. HCG, time frame, i.e. when if at all.
5. AI’s yes or no, how often?
6. Oral AAS, a waste or not? If not, which ones and why?
7. Stacking things like eq, tren and deca in the same stack.
8. The use of thyroid meds for other reasons beyond fat lass.
9. Even if it is a long estered, slow acting testosterone you’re taking, assuming it’s quality test, you should feel it within the first wk….true or false?
10. Roid rage is real. True or false?
OK, that’s it for now. I think these are very, very basic questions that anyone with supposed knowledge on the subject should be able to answer without rambling but with concise to the point answers.
Last off, I’m not looking to own you or any bullshit like that…if I was after that, I would have asked in-depth questions, but I’ll save that for next time…depending on how you answer here.
Read through hes post arnold jr GH15 has answered all these questions some in real detail.
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Read through hes post arnold jr GH15 has answered all these questions some in real detail.
haha another gh15 groupie..let the clown answer
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gh15.... Arnold Jr is kind of a douche, in case you haven't figured it out. He once "banned" me from the steroids board, despite the fact that I've never made a post on the steroid board to begin with! ::)
However, that said....
... AT LEAST HE DOESN'T BELIEVE LITTLE GREEN MEN FROM MARS BUILT THE PYRAMIDS! :D
Only kind of a douche? Come on, you're breaking my heart. I banned you from the steroid board because I'm a full blown douche, not kind of a douche, lol!
...and you're right, I don't believe little green men from mars built the pyramids...it was little blue celestial beings from Venus.
Read through hes post arnold jr GH15 has answered all these questions some in real detail.
Then he should have no trouble answering in detail here.
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Is gh15 really VinceG ???
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Is gh15 really VinceG ???
I DOUBT IT
VINCEGAY DOESNT CLAIM USA IS A CONTINENT
NICE KNOWLEDGE GH15 IFBB FAILURE
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i only answer this because im nice not for any credit,,my credits are from here to the ausralia via icleand and back,,
i answer all these questions before too but ill do it for the 1001 time so the newer bodybuilders dont need to go through the mess of reading posts and looking for right answers
1. i would inject the testovis or equivelent an amp a day and take saturday and sunday off ,,i wouldnt go this route if not national level competitor or at the least top reginoial competitor,,you can get to do state levels or equivelent show in yrou respective countries by 2-3 amps a week of testovirons,,omnas,,norma test,,elmutestex basically legit hormones out there,, the amount of drug you will need depend on your years being on it and your lean muscle mass to begin with inaddition,,most lifters who put inthem 5-7 amps a week of test been in this sport for competetive reaons and are not sitting at 180lb,,they continue progressing
2. gh = good but is not at the level of importance as aas,,aas is a basic must to develop a bodybuilder physiqe ,,gh comes after and only at the end you bring igf if needed otherwize you will end like mr kamali and greg k,,you got to bring in the gh when you are ready and not before inorder to not develop abnomalities with out the actual muscle maturity needed for growth related to growth hormone,,rest of the peptides are garbage i wouldnt give them to a mouce since they are not stable and in most cases underground made and practically garbage left over hcg sold as some new forumla to bodybuilders who dream of winning local shows
3. i dont need no hcg,,you just dont go off as a pro you just manipulate doses to fit the need and the times,,you need hcg when you go off completely and wanna be able to have your balls so you can fuck the local whore you meet in the local club you go to with your frinds if you are 20,,then you need some hcg if you go off for 6+ months,,btu in general hcg i recomend to take if you wanna knock your girl into pregnancy and cant and doc will give it to you,,i also recomend hcg if you are young guy who wanna get his dick back after a very long time on aas and need yuor dick at its best beause you wanna find a girlfriend since you are still single and wanna be able to perform well in bed,,older guys it wont matter the girl understand and will learbn to live with low sex drive for a month here and there,, in general hcg is optional and dependent on self body ability to rebound,,if i use hcg its for 2 weeks at shots of 500 mcg a day 5 days a week or 1250-5000mcg injected twice a week for 2 weeks,,hcg is bloat and make you smooth so be careful with it
4. ai ae all that good stuff is a must WHEN CUTTING,,i would also syggest it to very sensetive individuals when bulking and adding mass,,some need it otherwize they look like a plump female with muscle mass ,,and some dont need it because they started so low bodyfat% that the addition of estrogen only took their bodyfat% during bulking to 8-9% insted of the 6% they used to be,,,thats why i always recomend to be on bulking cycles when you are single digit bodyfat or maximum of true 10-12% at absolute max ,,no matter how big you get on roids you wont see the results you wish for if your bodyfat is too high,,you may be looking like a beast ....but it will be big muscular and also fat kind of beast and that is not something you wanna show in public becausepeople dont understand this ,,its only people who involved in bodybuilding who know to see the diff,,the girls you guys wanting to llok at you will think you are fat if not using some type of ai or ae on the doses mentioned
5. oral aas are FAT FROM WASTE,,they are very important especially in competetive bodybuilding because of shot half lifes,,they are must in any natural competition and very very good even better than injects in many times,,dianabol is to date the BEST DRUG CREATED MUSCLE..legit dianabol that is such as naposim and anabol snake and arrow pinkies,,those 2 can seriously add on you by thelselves about 30lb of muscle and water in amatter of 2 months if legit and respond well to aas,,best orals besie dianabol are dependent on what you want to achieve and for what reason taken
6. this is individual dependent,,deca and eq are ok to combine ,,it depends on hw you body respond to either and both,,its individual but they dont take the place of eachother and work well together,,trenbolone i find unessesary you can achieve the same results of nandrolone with other hormones,,many use it how ever,,trenbolone poweder is garbage and i dont like home made pellets crap because this brings troubles and make you a distributer,,and as i said before you can get same little results you get out of fina from other drugs such as halotestin but to the 10 degree because they were meant for consumption as human grade and your body says yumyum to them unlike many stories that are untrue to how bad it makes the liver etc etc its not,,some people are on halos for 3 months straight ,,the key is to keep the dose at moderate and not take it too high
7. tyroid shoudl use to fasten the metabolism and lose bodyfat% ,,or for real tyroid problems if they take out your gland,,tyroid should not be abused by the average bodybuilder and should be treated with respect,,it is doing its job even if you dont feel like it is,,it will l put you in the best shape of your life if you know what youre doing,,high does of hgh and slin must go together with tyroid otherwize the word s fat marshmelo man will be heard a lot when you show up around your bodybuuilding friends
8.yes true testosterone real legit test ,,will make you feel it within couple hours after you inject it,,it wil start working ,,your body dont wait for shit it attacks it on spot ,,and start releasing it slowly ,,but you will at one week wanna fuck your girlfriend like a mad man and be jackin off to computer whores all night ,,you will start looking at every girl in your local walmart as piece of meat,,suddenly fat girls will look attractive,,and hot girls will be looked at only one term which is called : tits ass and legs
9. no its not true,,the stress and rages you see in some people is resulted of personalityand problems had before the use of hormones,,they were abusive before the ue of hormones and they were to begin with going into fights no matter what since age 10 in elementry school,,it is personality and brain problem not steroid problem,,most bodybuilders and powerlifters are gentle souls and are exteremly sensetive
about the gh does ,,it depends you casn see the number next to my name ,,this is what i recomend for a begginer professional,,but it can go many ways depending on the gh ,,,with china crap triple and quadrouple the doses,,with american made you casn go lower,,it all depends what you work with both products and genetic frame and respond in addition to how serious you are in gym and how serious you are with nutrition as in calories rather than clean clean food none stop ,,,clean food none stop = always stuck same place
hope this helps you hunnys ;)
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GH15, you have proclaimed that your words are the “gold standard.” Well, let’s see the level of your knowledge.
I’ve seen you answer numerous questions and make several general claims, i.e. UG gear is junk, pro’s stay on year round, you have to use gh and slin to be pro size, etc.
OK, fine, then for all the inquiring minds, answer and give your thoughts to some relatively basic questions…questions that anyone with sound gear knowledge should have some sort of sain opinion about.
For these questions, we’ll assume that they are to be answered to someone who is already an advanced bodybuilder….not pro but well versed.
1. Long estered testosterone does not have to be injected as frequently as shorter estered testosterones to receive testosterone benefits. Let’s say you want to inject 1200mg/test-enanthate per wk, how would you advise spacing this out? 2xwk or eod or even ed protocol?
2. GH, what is the minimal dose for muscle gains and how would you space it out daily?
3. Peptide fragments, your thoughts.
4. HCG, time frame, i.e. when if at all.
5. AI’s yes or no, how often?
6. Oral AAS, a waste or not? If not, which ones and why?
7. Stacking things like eq, tren and deca in the same stack.
8. The use of thyroid meds for other reasons beyond fat lass.
9. Even if it is a long estered, slow acting testosterone you’re taking, assuming it’s quality test, you should feel it within the first wk….true or false?
10. Roid rage is real. True or false?
OK, that’s it for now. I think these are very, very basic questions that anyone with supposed knowledge on the subject should be able to answer without rambling but with concise to the point answers.
Last off, I’m not looking to own you or any bullshit like that…if I was after that, I would have asked in-depth questions, but I’ll save that for next time…depending on how you answer here.
Internet pissing matches are always fun to watch, though I have the feeling "arnold jr" might be taking things just a wee bit too seriously
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actually no hes not,,i gave you there information you will never get from other professional not behind screen and defenitely not to yoru face,,betetr cut and paste it so you remember it,,this is the way to pro card if you got the genetic response and enough time and serious about training
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Another GOLD post from gh15, but the haters will continue to peck away instead of just saying THANK YOU.
The only reason people bash gh15 is because he's anonymous and they just can't stand not knowing who he is.
Too bad they miss the point. If he gives up his anonymity, he gives up his ability to inform the masses.
gh15, please stick to gear. You nearly lost some of us with the Aliens + Pyramid stuff!
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Another GOLD post from gh15, but the haters will continue to peck away instead of just saying THANK YOU.
The only reason people bash gh15 is because he's anonymous and they just can't stand not knowing who he is.
Too bad they miss the point. If he gives up his anonymity, he gives up his ability to inform the masses.
gh15, please stick to gear. You nearly lost some of us with the Aliens + Pyramid stuff!
I don't get why people hate him.
Gh15 is a cool guy and I appreciate his opinion about pretty much every aspect of bodybuilding
I don't think he is a gimmick
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haha another gh15 groupie..let the clown answer
Another gh15 hater, enjoy never breaking the 180lb mark. "Benzy"
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This is just a attention cry from ArnoldJunior, he's got a huge ego, he thinks he knows his stuff about aas, and then someone like gh15 with inferior knowledge comes by, and he feels stupid. Way to own yourself Junior. Now leave :D
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I don't get why people hate him.
Gh15 is a cool guy and I appreciate his opinion about pretty much every aspect of bodybuilding
I don't think he is a gimmick
Agree , and GH15s answer/s post should satisfy Arnoldjr
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I don't get why people hate him.
Gh15 is a cool guy and I appreciate his opinion about pretty much every aspect of bodybuilding
I don't think he is a gimmick
why do people hate the guy who won the lottery and bought the Lambo? Pure jealously my friend...Many on here are totally jealous of the screen name we know as gh15...
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This is just a attention cry from ArnoldJunior, he's got a huge ego, he thinks he knows his stuff about aas, and then someone like gh15 with inferior knowledge comes by, and he feels stupid. Way to own yourself Junior. Now leave :D
OK "El Mariachi" ::)
Like you are the expert.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Nice build ::)
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I realized that arnold junior is in way over his head and is overcomplicating things the moment I read what gh15 had to say. Simple, logic and to the point. I suggest Arnie, that u sticky all his posts for everyone to read and stop giving advices. If u give advice on the roid board but u doubt what gh15 says u clearly are not in a position to advise anyone.
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By the way arnold jr : I dunot believe you were calling gh15 out ..I believe these were issues u weren't clear on so u went fishing for free advice.
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By the way arnold jr : I dunot believe you were calling gh15 out ..I believe these were issues u weren't clear on so u went fishing for free advice.
Who cares?
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solid info....
and nice self ownage... :P
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Awesome please continue to blind people and to push your sick Drug agenda on the Gossip board ::)
Jason you are missing entirely the point why gh15 is getting some stiff resistance here.
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Another GOLD post from gh15, but the haters will continue to peck away instead of just saying THANK YOU.
The only reason people bash gh15 is because he's anonymous and they just can't stand not knowing who he is.
Too bad they miss the point. If he gives up his anonymity, he gives up his ability to inform the masses.
gh15, please stick to gear. You nearly lost some of us with the Aliens + Pyramid stuff!
NO!!! that thread was some of the best stuff he has ever posted! :o
Also, not that many ppl will benefit from his drug advice seeing as most ppl on here are not looking to inject theselves with everything possible in quest for becoming a pro.
How about some advice that everyone can put to use. Like diet, bulking and cutting?
does gh15 put peanut butter on his sammiches? :-*
Milos recommends 1.5-2g protein per lb of bodyweight, is that necessary without drugs?...
etc etc...
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NO!!! that thread was some of the best stuff he has ever posted! :o
Also, not that many ppl will benefit from his drug advice seeing as most ppl on here are not looking to inject theselves with everything possible in quest for becoming a pro.
How about some advice that everyone can put to use. Like diet, bulking and cutting?
does gh15 put peanut butter on his sammiches? :-*
Milos recommends 1.5-2g protein per lb of bodyweight, is that necessary without drugs?...
etc etc...
look my friend i can give u advise about peanut butter all day long but if your not on hormones it will make no different. bulking, cutting, everything EVERYTHING involves hormones my friend. go look at a natural contest, not ifbb or npc but anbf or other small natural show and you will see that there is VERY BIG different between natural and hormonized competition. natural can get to size of a mattc or TA and no further maybe 5'9 ot 5'10 and 170 at 8%bf at best which is very very good for natural. without hormones you can eat 10 meals and 500g protein and still will not be bigger than a hormonized man eating two #1s at mcdonalds. without hormones you can diet all year long and still wont have ripped glutes. you can go natural and eat your peanut butter but will never look anything like a pro. to answer your question no i dont eat peanut butter.
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look my friend i can give u advise about peanut butter all day long but if your not on hormones it will make no different. bulking, cutting, everything EVERYTHING involves hormones my friend. go look at a natural contest, not ifbb or npc but anbf or other small natural show and you will see that there is VERY BIG different between natural and hormonized competition. natural can get to size of a mattc or TA and no further maybe 5'9 ot 5'10 and 170 at 8%bf at best which is very very good for natural. without hormones you can eat 10 meals and 500g protein and still will not be bigger than a hormonized man eating two #1s at mcdonalds. without hormones you can diet all year long and still wont have ripped glutes. you can go natural and eat your peanut butter but will never look anything like a pro. to answer your question no i dont eat peanut butter.
Legendarry
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Looks like "arnold jr" just got bitch slapped in the worst way. No wonder he hasn't replied to this thread again. :-\
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gh15,
once again you prove why you are the mutherfucking king of the hormone world as it pertains to bodybuilding. God bless you.
gh15, you rarely talk about shit that mere mortal 180-200 low bodyfat bodybuilders should do to achieve that fitness model look, because as we all know, most american males lift for one thing and one thing only, warm tight wet vag.
so please gh15, how do you get that sagi kalev look? can it be done with only 2-3 amps of testoviron a week vs. 1 a day as you say. is 200-300g protein sufficent for a 180-200lbs 6% guy?
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Looks like "arnold jr" just got bitch slapped in the worst way. No wonder he hasn't replied to this thread again. :-\
could be busy ???
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Any juiced up guy could have answered those questions, gh15 proves nothing.
gh15 is fake
gh15 doesnt bring you the truth
gh15 is nothing but a loser
gh15 is a fed, be aware
F-UCK GH15
GH15 SUX
GH15 IS DYING
GH15 IS DEAD TO ME
GH15 HIT WTC
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i only answer this because im nice not for any credit,,my credits are from here to the ausralia via icleand and back,,
i answer all these questions before too but ill do it for the 1001 time so the newer bodybuilders dont need to go through the mess of reading posts and looking for right answers
1. i would inject the testovis or equivelent an amp a day and take saturday and sunday off ,,i wouldnt go this route if not national level competitor or at the least top reginoial competitor,,you can get to do state levels or equivelent show in yrou respective countries by 2-3 amps a week of testovirons,,omnas,,norma test,,elmutestex basically legit hormones out there,, the amount of drug you will need depend on your years being on it and your lean muscle mass to begin with inaddition,,most lifters who put inthem 5-7 amps a week of test been in this sport for competetive reaons and are not sitting at 180lb,,they continue progressing
2. gh = good but is not at the level of importance as aas,,aas is a basic must to develop a bodybuilder physiqe ,,gh comes after and only at the end you bring igf if needed otherwize you will end like mr kamali and greg k,,you got to bring in the gh when you are ready and not before inorder to not develop abnomalities with out the actual muscle maturity needed for growth related to growth hormone,,rest of the peptides are garbage i wouldnt give them to a mouce since they are not stable and in most cases underground made and practically garbage left over hcg sold as some new forumla to bodybuilders who dream of winning local shows
3. i dont need no hcg,,you just dont go off as a pro you just manipulate doses to fit the need and the times,,you need hcg when you go off completely and wanna be able to have your balls so you can fuck the local whore you meet in the local club you go to with your frinds if you are 20,,then you need some hcg if you go off for 6+ months,,btu in general hcg i recomend to take if you wanna knock your girl into pregnancy and cant and doc will give it to you,,i also recomend hcg if you are young guy who wanna get his dick back after a very long time on aas and need yuor dick at its best beause you wanna find a girlfriend since you are still single and wanna be able to perform well in bed,,older guys it wont matter the girl understand and will learbn to live with low sex drive for a month here and there,, in general hcg is optional and dependent on self body ability to rebound,,if i use hcg its for 2 weeks at shots of 500 mcg a day 5 days a week or 1250-5000mcg injected twice a week for 2 weeks,,hcg is bloat and make you smooth so be careful with it
4. ai ae all that good stuff is a must WHEN CUTTING,,i would also syggest it to very sensetive individuals when bulking and adding mass,,some need it otherwize they look like a plump female with muscle mass ,,and some dont need it because they started so low bodyfat% that the addition of estrogen only took their bodyfat% during bulking to 8-9% insted of the 6% they used to be,,,thats why i always recomend to be on bulking cycles when you are single digit bodyfat or maximum of true 10-12% at absolute max ,,no matter how big you get on roids you wont see the results you wish for if your bodyfat is too high,,you may be looking like a beast ....but it will be big muscular and also fat kind of beast and that is not something you wanna show in public becausepeople dont understand this ,,its only people who involved in bodybuilding who know to see the diff,,the girls you guys wanting to llok at you will think you are fat if not using some type of ai or ae on the doses mentioned
5. oral aas are FAT FROM WASTE,,they are very important especially in competetive bodybuilding because of shot half lifes,,they are must in any natural competition and very very good even better than injects in many times,,dianabol is to date the BEST DRUG CREATED MUSCLE..legit dianabol that is such as naposim and anabol snake and arrow pinkies,,those 2 can seriously add on you by thelselves about 30lb of muscle and water in amatter of 2 months if legit and respond well to aas,,best orals besie dianabol are dependent on what you want to achieve and for what reason taken
6. this is individual dependent,,deca and eq are ok to combine ,,it depends on hw you body respond to either and both,,its individual but they dont take the place of eachother and work well together,,trenbolone i find unessesary you can achieve the same results of nandrolone with other hormones,,many use it how ever,,trenbolone poweder is garbage and i dont like home made pellets crap because this brings troubles and make you a distributer,,and as i said before you can get same little results you get out of fina from other drugs such as halotestin but to the 10 degree because they were meant for consumption as human grade and your body says yumyum to them unlike many stories that are untrue to how bad it makes the liver etc etc its not,,some people are on halos for 3 months straight ,,the key is to keep the dose at moderate and not take it too high
7. tyroid shoudl use to fasten the metabolism and lose bodyfat% ,,or for real tyroid problems if they take out your gland,,tyroid should not be abused by the average bodybuilder and should be treated with respect,,it is doing its job even if you dont feel like it is,,it will l put you in the best shape of your life if you know what youre doing,,high does of hgh and slin must go together with tyroid otherwize the word s fat marshmelo man will be heard a lot when you show up around your bodybuuilding friends
8.yes true testosterone real legit test ,,will make you feel it within couple hours after you inject it,,it wil start working ,,your body dont wait for shit it attacks it on spot ,,and start releasing it slowly ,,but you will at one week wanna fuck your girlfriend like a mad man and be jackin off to computer whores all night ,,you will start looking at every girl in your local walmart as piece of meat,,suddenly fat girls will look attractive,,and hot girls will be looked at only one term which is called : tits ass and legs
9. no its not true,,the stress and rages you see in some people is resulted of personalityand problems had before the use of hormones,,they were abusive before the ue of hormones and they were to begin with going into fights no matter what since age 10 in elementry school,,it is personality and brain problem not steroid problem,,most bodybuilders and powerlifters are gentle souls and are exteremly sensetive
about the gh does ,,it depends you casn see the number next to my name ,,this is what i recomend for a begginer professional,,but it can go many ways depending on the gh ,,,with china crap triple and quadrouple the doses,,with american made you casn go lower,,it all depends what you work with both products and genetic frame and respond in addition to how serious you are in gym and how serious you are with nutrition as in calories rather than clean clean food none stop ,,,clean food none stop = always stuck same place
hope this helps you hunnys ;)
Arnold Jr. = PWNED!
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i only answer this because im nice not for any credit,,my credits are from here to the ausralia via icleand and back,,
i answer all these questions before too but ill do it for the 1001 time so the newer bodybuilders dont need to go through the mess of reading posts and looking for right answers
1. i would inject the testovis or equivelent an amp a day and take saturday and sunday off ,,i wouldnt go this route if not national level competitor or at the least top reginoial competitor,,you can get to do state levels or equivelent show in yrou respective countries by 2-3 amps a week of testovirons,,omnas,,norma test,,elmutestex basically legit hormones out there,, the amount of drug you will need depend on your years being on it and your lean muscle mass to begin with inaddition,,most lifters who put inthem 5-7 amps a week of test been in this sport for competetive reaons and are not sitting at 180lb,,they continue progressing
Although I understand what you’re saying, and for the most part I agree with what you said, you did not really answer my question at all for this one…that was the whole point of this…making claims is fine, but being able to make claims with sound proof and understanding is far more valuable.
2. gh = good but is not at the level of importance as aas,,aas is a basic must to develop a bodybuilder physiqe ,,gh comes after and only at the end you bring igf if needed otherwize you will end like mr kamali and greg k,,you got to bring in the gh when you are ready and not before inorder to not develop abnomalities with out the actual muscle maturity needed for growth related to growth hormone,,rest of the peptides are garbage i wouldnt give them to a mouce since they are not stable and in most cases underground made and practically garbage left over hcg sold as some new forumla to bodybuilders who dream of winning local shows
Agreed on the peptide garbage, disagree on the GH though…to an extent. Sure, AAS is far more important, but a solid and smart run of GH on a contest diet would do any competitor, no matter the level, some good.
3. i dont need no hcg,,you just dont go off as a pro you just manipulate doses to fit the need and the times,,you need hcg when you go off completely and wanna be able to have your balls so you can fuck the local whore you meet in the local club you go to with your frinds if you are 20,,then you need some hcg if you go off for 6+ months,,btu in general hcg i recomend to take if you wanna knock your girl into pregnancy and cant and doc will give it to you,,i also recomend hcg if you are young guy who wanna get his dick back after a very long time on aas and need yuor dick at its best beause you wanna find a girlfriend since you are still single and wanna be able to perform well in bed,,older guys it wont matter the girl understand and will learbn to live with low sex drive for a month here and there,, in general hcg is optional and dependent on self body ability to rebound,,if i use hcg its for 2 weeks at shots of 500 mcg a day 5 days a week or 1250-5000mcg injected twice a week for 2 weeks,,hcg is bloat and make you smooth so be careful with it
Good answer…the right answer.
4. ai ae all that good stuff is a must WHEN CUTTING,,i would also syggest it to very sensetive individuals when bulking and adding mass,,some need it otherwize they look like a plump female with muscle mass ,,and some dont need it because they started so low bodyfat% that the addition of estrogen only took their bodyfat% during bulking to 8-9% insted of the 6% they used to be,,,thats why i always recomend to be on bulking cycles when you are single digit bodyfat or maximum of true 10-12% at absolute max ,,no matter how big you get on roids you wont see the results you wish for if your bodyfat is too high,,you may be looking like a beast ....but it will be big muscular and also fat kind of beast and that is not something you wanna show in public becausepeople dont understand this ,,its only people who involved in bodybuilding who know to see the diff,,the girls you guys wanting to llok at you will think you are fat if not using some type of ai or ae on the doses mentioned
Good answer
5. oral aas are FAT FROM WASTE,,they are very important especially in competetive bodybuilding because of shot half lifes,,they are must in any natural competition and very very good even better than injects in many times,,dianabol is to date the BEST DRUG CREATED MUSCLE..legit dianabol that is such as naposim and anabol snake and arrow pinkies,,those 2 can seriously add on you by thelselves about 30lb of muscle and water in amatter of 2 months if legit and respond well to aas,,best orals besie dianabol are dependent on what you want to achieve and for what reason taken
Wait, are you saying dbol is the best AAS period or best oral? Surely you’re not saying best over all AAS? Anyway, I do like an oral here and there, but one of the most important parts of the puzzle, no way…you can get the exact same job done you speak of without them…yes they help, and yes I use them, but they are not by any means 100% necessary.
6. this is individual dependent,,deca and eq are ok to combine ,,it depends on hw you body respond to either and both,,its individual but they dont take the place of eachother and work well together,,trenbolone i find unessesary you can achieve the same results of nandrolone with other hormones,,many use it how ever,,trenbolone poweder is garbage and i dont like home made pellets crap because this brings troubles and make you a distributer,,and as i said before you can get same little results you get out of fina from other drugs such as halotestin but to the 10 degree because they were meant for consumption as human grade and your body says yumyum to them unlike many stories that are untrue to how bad it makes the liver etc etc its not,,some people are on halos for 3 months straight ,,the key is to keep the dose at moderate and not take it too high
You can still get real fina pellets, I would imagine you would know this. So that would mean you can get it from better quality powder…agreed though that a lot of it out there is crap. Also agree about the long use of orals claim…people put way to much worry into the whole liver scare in regards to AAS…there are many far more dangerous things for the liver and people don’t give those things a 2nd thought.
7. tyroid shoudl use to fasten the metabolism and lose bodyfat% ,,or for real tyroid problems if they take out your gland,,tyroid should not be abused by the average bodybuilder and should be treated with respect,,it is doing its job even if you dont feel like it is,,it will l put you in the best shape of your life if you know what youre doing,,high does of hgh and slin must go together with tyroid otherwize the word s fat marshmelo man will be heard a lot when you show up around your bodybuuilding friends
This doesn’t really answer the question I asked…I wasn’t asking about fat loss.
Even so, as with orals AAS, I believe the scare from thyroid meds is more outragouse then the other…just like the liver, just like the rest of the body, the thyroid will normalize itself.
8.yes true testosterone real legit test ,,will make you feel it within couple hours after you inject it,,it wil start working ,,your body dont wait for shit it attacks it on spot ,,and start releasing it slowly ,,but you will at one week wanna fuck your girlfriend like a mad man and be jackin off to computer whores all night ,,you will start looking at every girl in your local walmart as piece of meat,,suddenly fat girls will look attractive,,and hot girls will be looked at only one term which is called : tits ass and legs
Couple hrs? That might be a stretch, but I agree with what you said.
9. no its not true,,the stress and rages you see in some people is resulted of personalityand problems had before the use of hormones,,they were abusive before the ue of hormones and they were to begin with going into fights no matter what since age 10 in elementry school,,it is personality and brain problem not steroid problem,,most bodybuilders and powerlifters are gentle souls and are exteremly sensetive
about the gh does ,,it depends you casn see the number next to my name ,,this is what i recomend for a begginer professional,,but it can go many ways depending on the gh ,,,with china crap triple and quadrouple the doses,,with american made you casn go lower,,it all depends what you work with both products and genetic frame and respond in addition to how serious you are in gym and how serious you are with nutrition as in calories rather than clean clean food none stop ,,,clean food none stop = always stuck same place
hope this helps you hunnys ;)
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i only answer this because im nice not for any credit,,my credits are from here to the ausralia via icleand and back,,
i answer all these questions before too but ill do it for the 1001 time so the newer bodybuilders dont need to go through the mess of reading posts and looking for right answers
1. i would inject the testovis or equivelent an amp a day and take saturday and sunday off ,,i wouldnt go this route if not national level competitor or at the least top reginoial competitor,,you can get to do state levels or equivelent show in yrou respective countries by 2-3 amps a week of testovirons,,omnas,,norma test,,elmutestex basically legit hormones out there,, the amount of drug you will need depend on your years being on it and your lean muscle mass to begin with inaddition,,most lifters who put inthem 5-7 amps a week of test been in this sport for competetive reaons and are not sitting at 180lb,,they continue progressing
2. gh = good but is not at the level of importance as aas,,aas is a basic must to develop a bodybuilder physiqe ,,gh comes after and only at the end you bring igf if needed otherwize you will end like mr kamali and greg k,,you got to bring in the gh when you are ready and not before inorder to not develop abnomalities with out the actual muscle maturity needed for growth related to growth hormone,,rest of the peptides are garbage i wouldnt give them to a mouce since they are not stable and in most cases underground made and practically garbage left over hcg sold as some new forumla to bodybuilders who dream of winning local shows
3. i dont need no hcg,,you just dont go off as a pro you just manipulate doses to fit the need and the times,,you need hcg when you go off completely and wanna be able to have your balls so you can fuck the local whore you meet in the local club you go to with your frinds if you are 20,,then you need some hcg if you go off for 6+ months,,btu in general hcg i recomend to take if you wanna knock your girl into pregnancy and cant and doc will give it to you,,i also recomend hcg if you are young guy who wanna get his dick back after a very long time on aas and need yuor dick at its best beause you wanna find a girlfriend since you are still single and wanna be able to perform well in bed,,older guys it wont matter the girl understand and will learbn to live with low sex drive for a month here and there,, in general hcg is optional and dependent on self body ability to rebound,,if i use hcg its for 2 weeks at shots of 500 mcg a day 5 days a week or 1250-5000mcg injected twice a week for 2 weeks,,hcg is bloat and make you smooth so be careful with it
4. ai ae all that good stuff is a must WHEN CUTTING,,i would also syggest it to very sensetive individuals when bulking and adding mass,,some need it otherwize they look like a plump female with muscle mass ,,and some dont need it because they started so low bodyfat% that the addition of estrogen only took their bodyfat% during bulking to 8-9% insted of the 6% they used to be,,,thats why i always recomend to be on bulking cycles when you are single digit bodyfat or maximum of true 10-12% at absolute max ,,no matter how big you get on roids you wont see the results you wish for if your bodyfat is too high,,you may be looking like a beast ....but it will be big muscular and also fat kind of beast and that is not something you wanna show in public becausepeople dont understand this ,,its only people who involved in bodybuilding who know to see the diff,,the girls you guys wanting to llok at you will think you are fat if not using some type of ai or ae on the doses mentioned
5. oral aas are FAT FROM WASTE,,they are very important especially in competetive bodybuilding because of shot half lifes,,they are must in any natural competition and very very good even better than injects in many times,,dianabol is to date the BEST DRUG CREATED MUSCLE..legit dianabol that is such as naposim and anabol snake and arrow pinkies,,those 2 can seriously add on you by thelselves about 30lb of muscle and water in amatter of 2 months if legit and respond well to aas,,best orals besie dianabol are dependent on what you want to achieve and for what reason taken
6. this is individual dependent,,deca and eq are ok to combine ,,it depends on hw you body respond to either and both,,its individual but they dont take the place of eachother and work well together,,trenbolone i find unessesary you can achieve the same results of nandrolone with other hormones,,many use it how ever,,trenbolone poweder is garbage and i dont like home made pellets crap because this brings troubles and make you a distributer,,and as i said before you can get same little results you get out of fina from other drugs such as halotestin but to the 10 degree because they were meant for consumption as human grade and your body says yumyum to them unlike many stories that are untrue to how bad it makes the liver etc etc its not,,some people are on halos for 3 months straight ,,the key is to keep the dose at moderate and not take it too high
7. tyroid shoudl use to fasten the metabolism and lose bodyfat% ,,or for real tyroid problems if they take out your gland,,tyroid should not be abused by the average bodybuilder and should be treated with respect,,it is doing its job even if you dont feel like it is,,it will l put you in the best shape of your life if you know what youre doing,,high does of hgh and slin must go together with tyroid otherwize the word s fat marshmelo man will be heard a lot when you show up around your bodybuuilding friends
8.yes true testosterone real legit test ,,will make you feel it within couple hours after you inject it,,it wil start working ,,your body dont wait for shit it attacks it on spot ,,and start releasing it slowly ,,but you will at one week wanna fuck your girlfriend like a mad man and be jackin off to computer whores all night ,,you will start looking at every girl in your local walmart as piece of meat,,suddenly fat girls will look attractive,,and hot girls will be looked at only one term which is called : tits ass and legs
9. no its not true,,the stress and rages you see in some people is resulted of personalityand problems had before the use of hormones,,they were abusive before the ue of hormones and they were to begin with going into fights no matter what since age 10 in elementry school,,it is personality and brain problem not steroid problem,,most bodybuilders and powerlifters are gentle souls and are exteremly sensetive
about the gh does ,,it depends you casn see the number next to my name ,,this is what i recomend for a begginer professional,,but it can go many ways depending on the gh ,,,with china crap triple and quadrouple the doses,,with american made you casn go lower,,it all depends what you work with both products and genetic frame and respond in addition to how serious you are in gym and how serious you are with nutrition as in calories rather than clean clean food none stop ,,,clean food none stop = always stuck same place
hope this helps you hunnys ;)
Seriously guys; this is the post of a child. Anyone could have learned these things, from one page of Dan Duchaines 1st book, 20 years ago. gh15 is the current anabolic guru? Comedy.
"Dianabol is good and thyroid is good for losing bodyfat." -gh15 Stop the presses! Somebody call CNN!
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so arnold do i get apology now or do i have to shut down your electricity and have cable company disconnect modem until you appreciate what gh15 does for u and the other 400 people who PM me begging me to stay on gb?
;D
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Although I understand what you’re saying, and for the most part I agree with what you said, you did not really answer my question at all for this one…that was the whole point of this…making claims is fine, but being able to make claims with sound proof and understanding is far more valuable.
Agreed on the peptide garbage, disagree on the GH though…to an extent. Sure, AAS is far more important, but a solid and smart run of ....
So basicly Arnold what you want to say is that he is a phony?
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Arnold Jr. = PWNED!
says MR I AM LIKE FRANK ZANE AND I ENDED IN PLACE #6TH OUT OF 5
haha
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Internet pissing matches are always fun to watch, though I have the feeling "arnold jr" might be taking things just a wee bit too seriously
No, not a pissing match, I’m just trying to get down to the bottom of GH15. A lot of the PM’s I get people ask, GH15 says this, what do you think? Well, I haven’t read all of GH15’s threads and post, so this helps me see what he’s thinking and if he does know anything or not.
This is just a attention cry from ArnoldJunior, he's got a huge ego, he thinks he knows his stuff about aas, and then someone like gh15 with inferior knowledge comes by, and he feels stupid. Way to own yourself Junior. Now leave :D
…and you are who?
I realized that arnold junior is in way over his head and is overcomplicating things the moment I read what gh15 had to say. Simple, logic and to the point. I suggest Arnie, that u sticky all his posts for everyone to read and stop giving advices. If u give advice on the roid board but u doubt what gh15 says u clearly are not in a position to advise anyone.
See that’s the thing, from the few of his post I have read, they are not simple and to the point…most of them say, take lots of drugs to be pro, test every day, lots of gh, etc…there is nothing solid…anyone can say that kind of stuff…it doesn’t make them knowledgeable.
By the way arnold jr : I dunot believe you were calling gh15 out ..I believe these were issues u weren't clear on so u went fishing for free advice.
OK 7/11 you and I both know you don’t believe that for a 2nd…you’ve been around long enough to know that, that’s one of the bigger bullshit claims you’ve ever made.
Looks like "arnold jr" just got bitch slapped in the worst way. No wonder he hasn't replied to this thread again. :-\
….hmmmmm…..maybe Arnold jr. hadn’t replied until now, because Arnold jr. hadn’t been on get big until now. Unfortunately, I am unable to sit in front of my PC 24hrs a day…I’ll do my best to remedy this problem so as to post non stop from here on out.
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so arnold do i get apology now or do i have to shut down your electricity and have cable company disconnect modem until you appreciate what gh15 does for u and the other 400 people who PM me begging me to stay on gb?
;D
Explain, why do I owe SpecialEd an apology? Help me out here, the testosterone has made me retarded, lol!
Seriously guys; this is the post of a child. Anyone could have learned these things, from one page of Dan Duchaines 1st book, 20 years ago. gh15 is the current anabolic guru? Comedy.
Thankyou, someone with a brain...this is my point...nothing he says is anything that has weight to it....it' just random spouting off saying drugs as many times as he can in a post...therefore making him a god on getbig.
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Arnold Jr owned ghgut15, fact.
Why dont you guys just accept you have been following all the stupid comments from ghgut15 until arnold opened your eyes? You guys really cant trust a "ifbb pro" that claims his word is "gold" in the bodybuilding industry while he think usa is a continent and 2 million roids user are the total population of usa (300 million)...
haha gh15 what a joke, someone kill him please
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Arnold Jr owned ghgut15, fact.
Why dont you guys just accept you have been following all the stupid comments from ghgut15 until arnold opened your eyes? You guys really cant trust a "ifbb pro" that claims his word is "gold" in the bodybuilding industry while he think usa is a continent and 2 million roids user are the total population of usa (300 million)...
haha gh15 what a joke, someone kill him please
Who has followed that guy anyways, half of the getbigger half not enough money for drugs in the first place.
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Who has followed that guy anyways, half of the getbigger half not enough money for drugs in the first place.
You'd be surprised who in this board uses. First off, AAS is pretty cheap, even human grade AAS...people spend and waste a lot more money on GNC miracle supplements then they do AAS.
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Who has followed that guy anyways, half of the getbigger half not enough money for drugs in the first place.
Some idiots around who think this guy is the new anabolics walking guru haha
by the way guys, gh15 is not answering yet, he's reading a bit more of ANABOLICS 2007 to impress you all :)
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Some idiots around who think this guy is the new anabolics walking guru haha
by the way guys, gh15 is not answering yet, he's reading a bit more of ANABOLICS 2007 to impress you all :)
hahah chances are his 2007 edition is still int he mail and he is guessing the answers from the 2006 one :D
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Seriously guys; this is the post of a child. Anyone could have learned these things, from one page of Dan Duchaines 1st book, 20 years ago. gh15 is the current anabolic guru? Comedy.
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Yep that or either picking up MM circa 1996, it was solid but nothing new
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GH15 AND HIS WORD MIGHT BE GOLD IN THE BODYBUILDING/FITNESS INDUSTRY....
BUT HERE AT GETBIG'S HOOD ITS NOTHING BUT A RESOURCE OF MEGA LOLS
haha ghgut15 you rule
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says MR I AM LIKE FRANK ZANE AND I ENDED IN PLACE #6TH OUT OF 5
haha
Another shittalker who can't count and for all intensive purposes have never or will never step on stage....TALK TALK TALK!
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says MR I AM LIKE FRANK ZANE AND I ENDED IN PLACE #6TH OUT OF 5
haha
ouch that was harsh :-X
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Another shittalker who can't count and for all intensive purposes have never or will never step on stage....TALK TALK TALK!
Im sorry but i dont want to get on any stage, nevar been my purpouse.
Did you get any trophy for that awesome 6TH PLACE HAHAHAHA
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Another shittalker who can't count and for all intensive purposes have never or will never step on stage....TALK TALK TALK!
STOP EMOCRYING PLEASE, WANNA CRY MORE, USE THE MESSAGE BUTTON AND CRY DIRECTLY TO RON, MR #6
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STOP EMOCRYING PLEASE, WANNA CRY MORE, USE THE MESSAGE BUTTON AND CRY DIRECTLY TO RON, MR #6
hahahaha....meltdown...w hat a homo..LMAO!!
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hahahaha....meltdown...what a homo..LMAO!!
HAHAHA MELTDOWN? I THINK PLACING 6 OUT OF 5 IS A CLASSIC LIVE MELTDOWN
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HAHAHA MELTDOWN? I THINK PLACING 6 OUT OF 5 IS A CLASSIC LIVE MELTDOWN
LOL....still can't count? I love these shittalking 16 year olds...hahahahahah!
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LOL....still can't count? I love these shittalking 16 year olds...hahahahahah!
Yeah sorry i cant count, i dont have the gift to look like fran zane and place 6th at a contest
hahaha loser, make up a new story next time u wanna emoquit getbig, here are some:
My grandma is sick
My dog is sick
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look my friend i can give u advise about peanut butter all day long but if your not on hormones it will make no different. bulking, cutting, everything EVERYTHING involves hormones my friend. go look at a natural contest, not ifbb or npc but anbf or other small natural show and you will see that there is VERY BIG different between natural and hormonized competition. natural can get to size of a mattc or TA and no further maybe 5'9 ot 5'10 and 170 at 8%bf at best which is very very good for natural. without hormones you can eat 10 meals and 500g protein and still will not be bigger than a hormonized man eating two #1s at mcdonalds. without hormones you can diet all year long and still wont have ripped glutes. you can go natural and eat your peanut butter but will never look anything like a pro. to answer your question no i dont eat peanut butter.
You forgot to switch account, now get back to the ufo thread.
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Another shittalker who can't count and for all intensive purposes have never or will never step on stage....TALK TALK TALK!
The phrase you're looking for is "for all intents and purposes". I don't want you looking like an idiot the next time you decide to use this phrase in real life.
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gh15,
once again you prove why you are the mutherfucking king of the hormone world as it pertains to bodybuilding. God bless you.
gh15, you rarely talk about shit that mere mortal 180-200 low bodyfat bodybuilders should do to achieve that fitness model look, because as we all know, most american males lift for one thing and one thing only, warm tight wet vag.
so please gh15, how do you get that sagi kalev look? can it be done with only 2-3 amps of testoviron a week vs. 1 a day as you say. is 200-300g protein sufficent for a 180-200lbs 6% guy?
DON'T FORGET TO SLOW JACK HIM WHILE YOU SUCK HIS NUTS. GEEZ. ::)
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DON'T FORGET TO SLOW JACK HIM WHILE YOU SUCK HIS NUTS. GEEZ. ::)
You know best don't you billy ::)
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Fucking great thread - for once I've actually learned things on Getbig.
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don't pay attention to these idiots GH. they wont be happy till you leave the board and they lose a valuable source of information. i think pretty much everyone here would rather see you here than any one of the clowns who repeatedly bust your balls.
so, in the interest of generating discussion, i have some questions about what you wrote...
1) when running 1000-1200 mg of test a week, why inject every day? what is the difference between shooting say 300mg/ml test at 2ml bi- weekly?
2) you like 15iu of GH. is that 15 EOD post training? do you find this better than running say 2 & 2- 5 days a week? which would be better for fat loss pre-contest or would you say it matters- is more better or is it a waste at this time as your not getting the calories to support growth?
3) what do you think about getropin?
4) lift heavy, or for the pump?
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don't pay attention to these idiots GH. they wont be happy till you leave the board and they lose a valuable source of information. i think pretty much everyone here would rather see you here than any one of the clowns who repeatedly bust your balls.
so, in the interest of generating discussion, i have some questions about what you wrote...
1) when running 1000-1200 mg of test a week, why inject every day? what is the difference between shooting say 300mg/ml test at 2ml bi- weekly?
2) you like 15iu of GH. is that 15 EOD post training? do you find this better than running say 2 & 2- 5 days a week? which would be better for fat loss pre-contest or would you say it matters- is more better or is it a waste at this time as your not getting the calories to support growth?
3) what do you think about getropin?
4) lift heavy, or for the pump?
hahahah priceless another Steroid lamb waiting for a Dialysis :D :D
Are you sure that is enough Roids for you "big Boy" ::)
You crack me up.
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hahahah priceless another Steroid lamb waiting for a Dialysis :D :D
Are you sure that is enough Roids for you "big Boy" ::)
You crack me up.
all this coming from a 170 natural.
isnt here a spin class you should be at?
go away.
grown men are talking here.
if you want to make yourself useful, go in the kitchen and make everyone some sandwiches.
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all this coming from a 170 natural.
isnt here a spin class you should be at?
go away.
grown men are talking here.
if you want to make yourself useful, go in the kitchen and make everyone some sandwiches.
hahaha brutal meltdown :D :D :D
Grown men are talking here ::) hahhaha can you not come back with something witty or at least half funny.
Edit: And to answer your question NO Steroids don't cut fat hahahahaha you need to go do some cardio for that lardass :D :D
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hahaha brutal meltdown :D :D :D
Grown men are talking here ::) hahhaha can you not come back with something witty or at least half funny.
Edit: And to answer your question NO Steroids don't cut fat hahahahaha you need to go do some cardio for that lardass :D :D
yes.
My best excersise has to be Shrugs lol:
You should see all my buddy meatheads when they see me do shrugs, they cannot believe that I can lift that much and that clean :p
PR was 8 plates on each side so around 240 kilos, now for some of you that may not bee good, but I'm not huge :)
wow. you must be a real MONSTER. lol.
btw, monster, steroids dont cut fat, and neither does cardio.
but GH and a calorie deficit will.
please stop posting.
your making yourself look more and more dense, which is taking away from my enjoyment of doing so.
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I copy and pasted gh15's post into microsoft word because i wanted to save it on my computer for later reference, and you wouldnt believe how many red and green lines there were on the page.
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I copy and pasted gh15's post into microsoft word because i wanted to save it on my computer for later reference, and you wouldnt believe how many red and green lines there were on the page.
yeah unfortunatly Gh15 doesn't understand the concept of a Spellchecker ::)
And that is the man some people here trust with their lifes ::)
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Edit: And to answer your question NO Steroids don't cut fat hahahahaha you need to go do some cardio for that lardass :D :D
Well the more lean tissue you have the more effective your body is at burning fat so really steroids will help you burn fat as they will increase lean tissue.
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Well the more lean tissue you have the more effective your body is at burning fat so really steroids will help you burn fat as they will increase lean tissue.
course they do sweetheart :D :D
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I copy and pasted gh15's post into microsoft word because i wanted to save it on my computer for later reference, and you wouldnt believe how many red and green lines there were on the page.
Translation: I wanted to save his very intelligent post so I can post it in another forum and claim it mine so they all think I know
what I'm talking about :D :D ;)
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so arnold do i get apology now or do i have to shut down your electricity and have cable company disconnect modem until you appreciate what gh15 does for u and the other 400 people who PM me begging me to stay on gb?
;D
ROFL.
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Well the more lean tissue you have the more effective your body is at burning fat so really steroids will help you burn fat as they will increase lean tissue.
dont even bother with this simp.
170 pounds of monster shrugging fury.
lol.
he has no clue what he's talking about, which makes for good entertainment.
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Translation: I wanted to save his very intelligent post so I can post it in another forum and claim it mine so they all think I know
what I'm talking about :D :D ;)
damn. i got read like a book
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dont even bother with this simp.
170 pounds of monster shrugging fury.
lol.
he has no clue what he's talking about, which makes for good entertainment.
hahaha are you implying that this little bottom feeder has maxed out his natural grow and has no
other option but to chemically enhance his training? :D
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don't pay attention to these idiots GH. they wont be happy till you leave the board and they lose a valuable source of information. i think pretty much everyone here would rather see you here than any one of the clowns who repeatedly bust your balls.
so, in the interest of generating discussion, i have some questions about what you wrote...
1) when running 1000-1200 mg of test a week, why inject every day? what is the difference between shooting say 300mg/ml test at 2ml bi- weekly?
2) you like 15iu of GH. is that 15 EOD post training? do you find this better than running say 2 & 2- 5 days a week? which would be better for fat loss pre-contest or would you say it matters- is more better or is it a waste at this time as your not getting the calories to support growth?
3) what do you think about getropin?
4) lift heavy, or for the pump?
#1 A 1000 mgs per week is a 1000 mgs per week. Personally, I'd shoot 300 mg's +/- every other day. Not only do I like the idea of constantly elevating free serum testosterone, I love the idea of taking more shots. Mentally, more shots equals more muscle.
#2 HGH for fat loss? There's got to be a better way to spend your money than that. You can get Clenbutreol & Cytomel for $100. Save that other $1,000+ for anabolics.
#3 What do I think of Getropin aka Somatropin? http://www.getropin.com/ (http://www.getropin.com/) I love it. Have you tried it? What were your results? Your receptors aren't the same as mine. Keep that in mind.
#4 Daddy-o, you've got to find out what works for you. I can't answer that question... well I could but the answer would be meaningless for you. What do I like? Heavy.
I hacks timmywongbeans account,,, remembers that you must find out what works for yous. That jew Weider called it "Instinctive training."
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Yeah sorry i cant count, i dont have the gift to look like fran zane and place 6th at a contest
hahaha loser, make up a new story next time u wanna emoquit getbig, here are some:
My grandma is sick
My dog is sick
Ha, at least I have the balls to show my face unlike 90% of the shittalkers on here!
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don't pay attention to these idiots GH. they wont be happy till you leave the board and they lose a valuable source of information. i think pretty much everyone here would rather see you here than any one of the clowns who repeatedly bust your balls.
so, in the interest of generating discussion, i have some questions about what you wrote...
1) when running 1000-1200 mg of test a week, why inject every day? what is the difference between shooting say 300mg/ml test at 2ml bi- weekly?
2) you like 15iu of GH. is that 15 EOD post training? do you find this better than running say 2 & 2- 5 days a week? which would be better for fat loss pre-contest or would you say it matters- is more better or is it a waste at this time as your not getting the calories to support growth?
3) what do you think about getropin?
4) lift heavy, or for the pump?
epic online cocksucking to get some FREE advices from THE UNDERCOVER REAL IFBB PRO WHOSE WORD IS GOLD IN THE BODYBUILDING INDUSTRY
HAHAHA oh man, this thread is great god dammit.
Let me answer your questions:
1.- Answer is at page 84 - Anabolics 2007 (GH15'S BIBLE AND SOURCE OF LEGIT INFO)
2.- Answer is at page 69 - Anabolics 2007 (GH15'S BIBLE AND SOURCE OF LEGIT INFO)
3.- NOTHING (GH15 DOESNT THINK, HE'S A MONGOL)
4.- WATCH PUMPING IRON
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don't pay attention to these idiots GH. they wont be happy till you leave the board and they lose a valuable source of information. i think pretty much everyone here would rather see you here than any one of the clowns who repeatedly bust your balls.
so, in the interest of generating discussion, i have some questions about what you wrote...
1) when running 1000-1200 mg of test a week, why inject every day? what is the difference between shooting say 300mg/ml test at 2ml bi- weekly?
2) you like 15iu of GH. is that 15 EOD post training? do you find this better than running say 2 & 2- 5 days a week? which would be better for fat loss pre-contest or would you say it matters- is more better or is it a waste at this time as your not getting the calories to support growth?
3) what do you think about getropin?
4) lift heavy, or for the pump?
hahaha, give me a break ::)
1) when running 1000-1200 mg of test a week, why inject every day? what is the difference between shooting say 300mg/ml test at 2ml bi- weekly?
I believe this was the 1st question I asked in my list of 10 questions to captain gold. Yes, there is a reason for doing it this way, but I wanted to here his reasoning for it...but he just said do it this way cause I say so...not real advice IMO.
2) you like 15iu of GH. is that 15 EOD post training? do you find this better than running say 2 & 2- 5 days a week? which would be better for fat loss pre-contest or would you say it matters- is more better or is it a waste at this time as your not getting the calories to support growth?
I have a lot of doubts about this
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Ha, at least I have the balls to show my face unlike 90% of the shittalkers on here!
Sure mate, you have the balls to emoquit by making up some shitty excuse.
Who is the next one in your family to get badly sick?
Epic lie to justify #6 haha
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OK "El Mariachi" ::)
Like you are the expert.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Nice build ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=189439.0;attach=220326;image)
hahahaha, i love the way he poses his little lollipop stick arms like he's Sergio Oliva. ;D
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Epic lie to justify #6 haha
Unfortunatly it was no lie.
Jr. one thing you should know by now is that I don't lie and usually back everything I say....again, unlike 90% of the shittalkers on here!
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Unfortunatly it was no lie.
Jr. one thing you should know by now is that I don't lie and usually back everything I say....again, unlike 90% of the shittalkers on here!
You have years of experience injecting your body with illegal things.
8)
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You have years of experience injecting your body with illegal things.
8)
::)
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Am Debussey wrong? ::)
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Unfortunatly it was no lie.
Jr. one thing you should know by now is that I don't lie and usually back everything I say....again, unlike 90% of the shittalkers on here!
Whats your current status:
A) emocrying
B) About to emoquit
c) All of above
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Am Debussey wrong? ::)
For this last show, yes, your wrong.
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Whats your current status:
A) emocrying
B) About to emoquit
c) All of above
Do you like Mercedes Benz?
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Unfortunatly it was no lie.
Jr. one thing you should know by now is that I don't lie and usually back everything I say....again, unlike 90% of the shittalkers on here!
Yep, you sure backed up leaving this board.
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Do you like Mercedes Benz?
I like chinese stuff but yeah, mb does some good vehicles.
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epic online cocksucking to get some FREE advices from THE UNDERCOVER REAL IFBB PRO WHOSE WORD IS GOLD IN THE BODYBUILDING INDUSTRY
HAHAHA oh man, this thread is great god dammit.
Let me answer your questions:
1.- Answer is at page 84 - Anabolics 2007 (GH15'S BIBLE AND SOURCE OF LEGIT INFO)
2.- Answer is at page 69 - Anabolics 2007 (GH15'S BIBLE AND SOURCE OF LEGIT INFO)
3.- NOTHING (GH15 DOESNT THINK, HE'S A MONGOL)
4.- WATCH PUMPING IRON
hahah you and me benz ;D ;D
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I like chinese stuff but yeah, mb does some good vehicles.
What about chinese pussy?
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What about chinese pussy?
eeeeeaahhh >:(
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Yep, you sure backed up leaving this board.
haha classic. Joelocal's emoquit will be part of getbig's history forevah.
THECOACH:
HEY GUYS IM EMOQUITTING THE INTERNET TOMORROW, I WONT RETURN, I HAVE A LIFE NOT LIKE YOU LOSERS....(1 HOUR LATER)
HELLO GUYS I AM JOELOCAL (YOU MIGHT REMEMBER ME AS THECOACH) AND I HAVE RETURNED BECAUSE I HAVE A LIFE
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What about chinese pussy?
HAIRY AND NASTY. YOU'D BETTER TAKE MY WORD MAN, ITS GOLD IN THE PROSTITUTION INDUSTRY (C) GH15
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eeeeeaahhh >:(
Noodles and nuts?
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hahaha are you implying that this little bottom feeder has maxed out his natural grow and has no
other option but to chemically enhance his training? :D
since the post was directed at YOU, yes, i do.
idiot.
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since the post was directed at YOU, yes, i do.
idiot.
emomeltdown
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look my friend i can give u advise about peanut butter all day long but if your not on hormones it will make no different. bulking, cutting, everything EVERYTHING involves hormones my friend. go look at a natural contest, not ifbb or npc but anbf or other small natural show and you will see that there is VERY BIG different between natural and hormonized competition. natural can get to size of a mattc or TA and no further maybe 5'9 ot 5'10 and 170 at 8%bf at best which is very very good for natural. without hormones you can eat 10 meals and 500g protein and still will not be bigger than a hormonized man eating two #1s at mcdonalds. without hormones you can diet all year long and still wont have ripped glutes. you can go natural and eat your peanut butter but will never look anything like a pro. to answer your question no i dont eat peanut butter.
:D
pretty damn good i liked
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gh15,
once again you prove why you are the mutherfucking king of the hormone world as it pertains to bodybuilding. God bless you.
gh15, you rarely talk about shit that mere mortal 180-200 low bodyfat bodybuilders should do to achieve that fitness model look, because as we all know, most american males lift for one thing and one thing only, warm tight wet vag.
so please gh15, how do you get that sagi kalev look? can it be done with only 2-3 amps of testoviron a week vs. 1 a day as you say. is 200-300g protein sufficent for a 180-200lbs 6% guy?
sagi kalev phsyiqe is a rsult of long term hormone use with one of the best genetic repond to hormone you will find around the world ,,particularly for a jwish fella,,only 1 ouf of 1000 can look like him and he could easily be top 15 o material if blown up to 250lb ,,but thats not where the big money is my friend
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Any juiced up guy could have answered those questions, gh15 proves nothing.
gh15 is fake
gh15 doesnt bring you the truth
gh15 is nothing but a loser
gh15 is a fed, be aware
F-UCK GH15
GH15 SUX
GH15 IS DYING
GH15 IS DEAD TO ME
GH15 HIT WTC
this shows insanity at its glory,,but the more you talk the more you give gh15 reasonings to finish genxl once and forall,,i suggest mr n and mr d and they know who they are ,,leave this "company" and continue on their own ,,,take a distance while you can fellas,,also members of getbig and anyother forums online gh15 deeply suggest that you stop following moderators advice and count on your own judgments as of december 15,,most moderators will talk good or bad based on how many products they can get for free or fronted,,moderators are easy to buy and they wont know fake from legit ,,most of them are kids
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Seriously guys; this is the post of a child. Anyone could have learned these things, from one page of Dan Duchaines 1st book, 20 years ago. gh15 is the current anabolic guru? Comedy.
"Dianabol is good and thyroid is good for losing bodyfat." -gh15 Stop the presses! Somebody call CNN!
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dan duchain was an idiot,,a word you love to use here on getbig,,he did know a lot of information about hormones but had no clue to how to grow out of them,,dan duchain was nice person but i never ever read books you should have learned that by now
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this shows insanity at its glory,,but the more you talk the more you give gh15 reasonings to finish genxl once and forall,,i suggest mr n and mr d and they know who they are ,,leave this "company" and continue on their own ,,,take a distance while you can fellas,,also members of getbig and anyother forums online gh15 deeply suggest that you stop following moderators advice and count on your own judgments as of december 15,,most moderators will talk good or bad based on how many products they can get for free or fronted,,moderators are easy to buy and they wont know fake from legit ,,most of them are kids
hahah hello MR IFBB PRO WHOSE WORD IS GOLD IN THE MONGOL INDUSTRY
oh man i thought you killed yourself, but world aint that perfect.
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Explain, why do I owe SpecialEd an apology? Help me out here, the testosterone has made me retarded, lol!
Thankyou, someone with a brain...this is my point...nothing he says is anything that has weight to it....it' just random spouting off saying drugs as many times as he can in a post...therefore making him a god on getbig.
stark does write well sinxe i can understand anything he says ,,you on the other hand assume,,i gave you the explanations i gave out of kindness and nothing else,,
by the way im not a god on getbig only,,in the last week i got a request from fox news via email to come on the oreily show and talk about the basball situation and hormones in general,,they offered gh15 to say time and place ,,inaddition they offered their studios in the country gh15 reside or in the usa depending where gh15want to do it,,they also offered complete identity block with out abuility to recognize the individual,,gh15 is yet to give final answer ,,and no its not $ dependent but more of safety dependent,,im afrsid that people will be able to recognize and thats a problem but they still begging both the morning show and oreilly show
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stark does write well sinxe i can understand anything he says ,,you on the other hand assume,,i gave you the explanations i gave out of kindness and nothing else,,
by the way im not a god on getbig only,,in the last week i got a request from fox news via email to come on the oreily show and talk about the basball situation and hormones in general,,they offered gh15 to say time and place ,,inaddition they offered their studios in the country gh15 reside or in the usa depending where gh15want to do it,,they also offered complete identity block with out abuility to recognize the individual,,gh15 is yet to give final answer ,,and no its not $ dependent but more of safety dependent,,im afrsid that people will be able to recognize and thats a problem but they still begging both the morning show and oreilly show
CNN just contacted me and they want to put me in a program right when fox (if that ever happen) put you on air. Reason: They want to me to say you are a mongol.
Im thinking about it, its not about the money but pleasure.
haha you are a tru mongol
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don't pay attention to these idiots GH. they wont be happy till you leave the board and they lose a valuable source of information. i think pretty much everyone here would rather see you here than any one of the clowns who repeatedly bust your balls.
so, in the interest of generating discussion, i have some questions about what you wrote...
1) when running 1000-1200 mg of test a week, why inject every day? what is the difference between shooting say 300mg/ml test at 2ml bi- weekly?
2) you like 15iu of GH. is that 15 EOD post training? do you find this better than running say 2 & 2- 5 days a week? which would be better for fat loss pre-contest or would you say it matters- is more better or is it a waste at this time as your not getting the calories to support growth?
3) what do you think about getropin?
4) lift heavy, or for the pump?
reason you want everyday ,,especially wiht the garbage you guys get on the internet since you are afraid to order from overseas because the usa sources scare you although they are getting busted right and left,,but the reason you want the test in you every day at 250mg or so is that you want constant stable blood levels,,your body gives a shit about esters ,,your body attack that little 1 ml you put in it a day like there is no tomorrow ,,it breaks it up and use it ,,little slower little faster depend on individual response,,but you want 1 ml every single day in there if youre a big boy so you dont count on faith but count on 250mg of test provided into the blood on a daily basis building it up to 5 times what average hrt is doing so you can be 3 times bigger than average hrt ,,as simle as that
15 units for short burst for growth for begginer proffesional about 3 months on 15 every single day will grow you to a monster quite fast,,if not ready you will look redicoulous and be more of a palumbo and greg k type of physiqe and that is what you dont want or need because it leads no where
getropin = garbage chinease no good ,,no quality no nothing ,,dismissed
lift heavy but always adjust to doses of hormones you are on,,you should lift as heavy when prep and lower oils are in you,,on winstrol you shouldnt lift as heavy unless deca is in you,,it all a matter of action and reaction,,you lift heavy as long as you are doing it with good form and if not,,you reduce the weight untill you can lift it with good form
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I copy and pasted gh15's post into microsoft word because i wanted to save it on my computer for later reference, and you wouldnt believe how many red and green lines there were on the page.
:D :D ha!
funiiest post on getbig to date im peeing laughing :D
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#1 A 1000 mgs per week is a 1000 mgs per week. Personally, I'd shoot 300 mg's +/- every other day. Not only do I like the idea of constantly elevating free serum testosterone, I love the idea of taking more shots. Mentally, more shots equals more muscle.
#2 HGH for fat loss? There's got to be a better way to spend your money than that. You can get Clenbutreol & Cytomel for $100. Save that other $1,000+ for anabolics.
#3 What do I think of Getropin aka Somatropin? http://www.getropin.com/ (http://www.getropin.com/) I love it. Have you tried it? What were your results? Your receptors aren't the same as mine. Keep that in mind.
#4 Daddy-o, you've got to find out what works for you. I can't answer that question... well I could but the answer would be meaningless for you. What do I like? Heavy.
I hacks timmywongbeans account,,, remembers that you must find out what works for yous. That jew Weider called it "Instinctive training."
first 2 points ok
3 point is dimissed ,,getropin = garbage and you have a selling point,,any bodybuilder who approve the use of getopin is a dealer or freebies moderator,,be careful of the moderators now days,,only count on your intiuiaiton
rest i didnt read
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stark does write well sinxe i can understand anything he says ,,you on the other hand assume,,i gave you the explanations i gave out of kindness and nothing else,,
by the way im not a god on getbig only,,in the last week i got a request from fox news via email to come on the oreily show and talk about the basball situation and hormones in general,,they offered gh15 to say time and place ,,inaddition they offered their studios in the country gh15 reside or in the usa depending where gh15want to do it,,they also offered complete identity block with out abuility to recognize the individual,,gh15 is yet to give final answer ,,and no its not $ dependent but more of safety dependent,,im afrsid that people will be able to recognize and thats a problem but they still begging both the morning show and oreilly show
No, you gave out random words, that's it. Hey, be a nice guy, I'm a nice guy so I'm all for that. But when asked questions giving answers that say, "do this because I say it's the best way" or "you have to do this to be pro size" without giving reason to the statements, then the statements don't hold any water...does this make sense?
I'm not saying you have to give detailed scientific explanations...I'm no scientist and neither are you....just clarity behind your points, with reason beyond, just because you say so.
reason you want everyday ,,especially wiht the garbage you guys get on the internet since you are afraid to order from overseas because the usa sources scare you although they are getting busted right and left,,but the reason you want the test in you every day at 250mg or so is that you want constant stable blood levels,,your body gives a shit about esters ,,your body attack that little 1 ml you put in it a day like there is no tomorrow ,,it breaks it up and use it ,,little slower little faster depend on individual response,,but you want 1 ml every single day in there if youre a big boy so you dont count on faith but count on 250mg of test provided into the blood on a daily basis building it up to 5 times what average hrt is doing so you can be 3 times bigger than average hrt ,,as simle as that
Now, this is a better answer...you gave reason behind your belief...this is what I asked you in question number 1 in this thread, and now you gave a "real" answer...see my point?
BTW, 2 things, when someones right about something, I'll say hey, that guy is right...even when it's you. Also, this thread was not started to start an internet war with you, or some BS pissing match...Arnold jr. is not about that. For me, this thread was about trying to get down to the bottom of GH15, is he legit, or is he BS? Still, not convinced either way...the air still has a pungent smell to it...but time will tell. You still have yet to respond to my original rebuttal from the original list of questions.
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Benz,
Cut out the stalking. You'll be in time-out soon enough. Say something or say nothing.
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Benz,
Cut out the stalking. You'll be in time-out soon enough. Say something or say nothing.
Have fun going to jail after fed15 bust you and many others.
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Have fun going to jail after fed15 bust you and many others.
Now that's what I'm a talking about. Even an ounce of wit is 100x better than none.
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Now that's what I'm a talking about. Even an ounce of wit is 100x better than none.
hi gh15
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hi gh15
ALLTIME CLASSiC
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No, you gave out random words, that's it. Hey, be a nice guy, I'm a nice guy so I'm all for that. But when asked questions giving answers that say, "do this because I say it's the best way" or "you have to do this to be pro size" without giving reason to the statements, then the statements don't hold any water...does this make sense?
I'm not saying you have to give detailed scientific explanations...I'm no scientist and neither are you....just clarity behind your points, with reason beyond, just because you say so.
Now, this is a better answer...you gave reason behind your belief...this is what I asked you in question number 1 in this thread, and now you gave a "real" answer...see my point?
BTW, 2 things, when someones right about something, I'll say hey, that guy is right...even when it's you. Also, this thread was not started to start an internet war with you, or some BS pissing match...Arnold jr. is not about that. For me, this thread was about trying to get down to the bottom of GH15, is he legit, or is he BS? Still, not convinced either way...the air still has a pungent smell to it...but time will tell. You still have yet to respond to my original rebuttal from the original list of questions.
arnold junior ,,if you been around even if for not so long and only since 2003 or 3004 or god knows since when,, you would understand one thing about the internet,,i will explain it to you in detail right now it will also entertain the ones who come in here for fun and will serve as red light to the people who actually know something about something
bodybuilding as of last 10 coming on 11 years ,,is basically a big big game of hormones,,everything and everyone who is bodybuiling now days practically lives on the internet,,it is this era and it started in 1996-1997 with the first ones among them ret and many more workd wide from countries where steroids are perfectly legal and not contolled same as it was in usa until very late 80s early 90s,,and will be again in 5-10 years,,
meanwhile,,,bodybuilding today and slwolwy and sefely started like that in 1996,,is a matter of hormone dealings on the internet mainly,,the gym local town suppliers sit oninternt like you and buy for their local morons from a bigger remailer who sit online that get it from couplel morons who sit overseas and abuse the whole system especially in the usa and australia and canada because that is whe\re big money can be made,,
now,,bodybuiling is indeed all drugs ,,bodybuilder are indeed all drugs,,this is the ONLY REASON THEY LOOK LIKE BODYBUILDERS,,if you take none you will never look like one period,,
getting down to know who gh15 is not what you as a moderator need to do,,,you as a moderator need to know for a fact that what gh15 says is absolut truth 100% accyrate and self experienced from ,many years in the sport and industry,,
i give you hear information you will never ever get from all the pussy professional friends of mine that are scared kids when it comes to anything involving the truth behind bodybuilding,,
what bother me the most is that some people actually cant read between the lines,,i know majority do read becaus of the emails and pms i get and many have brain and been in this for very long time,,but some people mainly the ones who takw \e advantage of this thing that haoppened in tthe usa in the last year ,,those people are also the ones behind thoe overseas "companys",,they are guys who have nothing to do with looking or being bodybuilders,,they wear glasses and weigh 160 lb and sell bunk priducts to people in usa that asre bodybuilders ,,this is what bothers me,,,they take advantage of the bodybuilders in the usa and work and do things only for their own benefits and agendas,,those people are also bribing moderators,,and the moderators are too dumb to understand that getting free goods or fronted goods will do nothing when the people that operate behind the underground garnage are scams of earth and criminals in the worst way possible,,those people will go down and not only that but the moderators will get introuble only for getting bribed by those people and playing their game
bodybuilding as of 2007 begginign of 2008 is ALL DRUGS in the usa and considered controlled ,,and this industry roll alot of money via those hormones that in many places in the world cost 1$ to make and sold to you for 20 times the cost,,atleast if they put real underground garbage inside and would aim at some perfection when it comes to dosing inaddition to selling human grade gh15 would have no problem with it,,
tryst me mr arnold junior,,i am the worst nightmare of shadey people like genx,,i been there for many many years,,
im backed up with every authority possible on the subject of hormones and there is a reason that the sources left survived ,,genx is shoing signs that its time to go is nearing,,time will prove me as always,,they may changed from british dragon to axio ,,but in reality they fuck the american bodybuilding community,,for not to forget!!! the reason barry is going to sit in for a year is not for the use of hormones but for the lies behind it
be warned stay away untill gh15 decide final verdict
thanskyou
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i give you hear information you will never ever get from all the pussy professional friends of mine that are scared kids when it comes to anything involving the truth behind bodybuilding,,
gh15 I would like to know what you did with my fondue set and why did you leave the
big 20inch rubber dick in my bathroom, you think i would use it???
Seriously the door you broke into will cost me a good 200 Euros, next time you ring my bell you come packing you hear me mofo?
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No, you gave out random words, that's it. Hey, be a nice guy, I'm a nice guy so I'm all for that. But when asked questions giving answers that say, "do this because I say it's the best way" or "you have to do this to be pro size" without giving reason to the statements, then the statements don't hold any water...does this make sense?
I'm not saying you have to give detailed scientific explanations...I'm no scientist and neither are you....just clarity behind your points, with reason beyond, just because you say so.
Now, this is a better answer...you gave reason behind your belief...this is what I asked you in question number 1 in this thread, and now you gave a "real" answer...see my point?
BTW, 2 things, when someones right about something, I'll say hey, that guy is right...even when it's you. Also, this thread was not started to start an internet war with you, or some BS pissing match...Arnold jr. is not about that. For me, this thread was about trying to get down to the bottom of GH15, is he legit, or is he BS? Still, not convinced either way...the air still has a pungent smell to it...but time will tell. You still have yet to respond to my original rebuttal from the original list of questions.
You're the Palumbo disciple right? Do you ask him the same questions? For example, has he explained to you why he thinks orals are crap (yet recommends Winstrol, Anadrol etc in other instances)?
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When I say getting down to who GH15 is, I'm not saying I'm trying to figure out your real identity...honestly I could care less about that. What this means is getting down to if you know what you're talking about or not...because you yourself have made some pretty big claims...that, and although a lot of what you say is on point, a lot of it is random, and general. Kind of goes back to the original question about test esters I asked you...you eventually gave a "real" answer, but not at first.
...and you're right, pro bodybuilding is about drugs...without it there is no pro bodybuilding. I do not dispute this fact...in fact, I've been preaching this for a long time...in a supportive way mind you, because I myself know what's what.
And for the record and for your own comfort, as a moderator on this board, and as a writer for several bodybuilding and steroid related web sites, I have never once pushed a source on to other people based on being bribed with free goodies from that source. There has only ever been one source that I ever vouched for openly on the internet, and I always made it very clear that this source carried both UG and human grade gear and that although his UG label was one of the only legitimate out there, going with the human grade line was always your best and safest bet.
And just one last point. Although bodybuilding is all about hormones, this is not the end all factor...as I'm sure you know, even though you implie it is.
...further more, Arnold jr. does not use UG garbage and will not advise anyone to do so themselves...there is no reason for me to push that junk on others...I'd like to see people reach their best just as I want to reach my best...plain and simple.
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You're the Palumbo disciple right? Do you ask him the same questions? For example, has he explained to you why he thinks orals are crap (yet recommends Winstrol, Anadrol etc in other instances)?
He doesn't say orals are crap, he just states there are more efficient methods.
On the winstrol, he only recommends injectable...some people can't take too many winny injections though, too much pain for them in the long run...if this is the case he will advise tabs or drinking the liquid...either way orally is the same effect, but it needs to be taken more often, since when taken orally the half life of the product is much shorter.
You'll also notice that he no longer puts anadrol in most of his recommended cycles...like everyone, as time goes by, his methods change and evolve to fit what in his mind works best.
Last thing, do I ask him the same exact questions as I did GH15 in this thread? No, there is no need, it's not the same situation by any means...I don't have to 2nd guess anything he says...it's all stated very clearly and explained up front. that said, although he has advised me on cycles, it's never a big discusion...other aspects such as diet always take precedence...besides, he knows I'm no idiot when it comes to that, lol!
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:D :D ha!
funiiest post on getbig to date im peeing laughing :D
awesome. will you answer one of my questions since i have the funniest post on getbig to date?
Is there any way to use dbol without it causing hairloss if we are genetically predisposed for it? I use finasteride with test and dont have any problems, but finasteride wont work for dbol, so is there something else available?
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awesome. will you answer one of my questions since i have the funniest post on getbig to date?
Q: Is there any way to use dbol without it causing hairloss if we are genetically predisposed for it? I use finasteride with test and dont have any problems, but finasteride wont work for dbol, so is there something else available?
A: If you're taking real methandrostenalone, either your hair will thin or it won't. I've seen guys take 100mg a day for years and they had more hair than Elvis. I've seen guys take 25mg per day for 6 month and they couldn't go out in the sun without a hat or they'd sunburn their scalp. There's nothing you can take to change things.
FWIW, I throw in some EPO, saw palmetto & use Nizoral shampo. It can't hurt.
I's hackered timmygreenbones accont. ;)
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HAHAHA MELTDOWN? I THINK PLACING 6 OUT OF 5 IS A CLASSIC LIVE MELTDOWN
benz, you are an asshole!
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benz, you are an asshole!
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