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While killing thousands and thousands of innocent people? Thats petty ''terroristish'' if you ask me.
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Not to mention that the US does have mass-destruction weapons too, shall we invade your country because of that?
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shall we invade your country because of that?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
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While killing thousands and thousands of innocent people? Thats petty ''terroristish'' if you ask me.
it's never "terrorism" when the US or Israel kills thousands, it's "freedom fighting".
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Not to mention that the US does have mass-destruction weapons too, shall we invade your country because of that?
lol come on with it...we're waiting
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While killing thousands and thousands of innocent people? Thats petty ''terroristish'' if you ask me.
Did Nasser tell you to ask that? ::)
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While killing thousands and thousands of innocent people? Thats petty ''terroristish'' if you ask me.
Agreed 100%. Bush is a sick fuck.
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Im not a religious pejson but when i see so much terrorist propaganda on this site, i think its time to stand up for the weaker.
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Im not a religious pejson but when i see so much terrorist propaganda on this site, i think its time to stand up for the weaker.
you mean like the thousands of people who died on 9/11?
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www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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you mean like the thousands of people who died on 9/11?
Ho ho h buddy there is a difference, 3000 people died in world center, in irak the casualties(civilians) are well over 200 000. are you man enough to come with a different approach?
And whats irak got to do with the hijackers?
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Ho ho h buddy there is a difference, 3000 people died in world center, in irak the casualties(civilians) are well over 200 000. are you man enough to come with a different approach?
And whats irak got to do with the hijackers?
first off causalties of war are different from terrorist attacks...both are horrible and sad to see...but one is in a warzone and are called causalties of war and anytime you go to war especially a gueriila war(which woulnt happen if the terrrorist didnt make it that way) you are going to get causalties, the other is specifically aimed at civilians which is in my honest opinion worse.
second of all I personally was skepitcal of the WOMD spin on the war...i feel it was more of an excuse to take out a government that harbored terrorist and terrorist activities
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first off causalties of war are different from terrorist attacks...both are horrible and sad to see...but one is in a warzone and are called causalties of war and anytime you go to war especially a gueriila war(which woulnt happen if the terrrorist didnt make it that way) you are going to get causalties, the other is specifically aimed at civilians which is in my honest opinion worse.
second of all I personally was skepitcal of the WOMD spin on the war...i feel it was more of an excuse to take out a government that harbored terrorist and terrorist activities
Very pathetic excuse of killing people using the word of ''war''
There isno difference, just listen to yourself, and realize how fucked up you sound.
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Very pathetic excuse of killing people using the word of ''war'' "Irak"...try "Iraq"
realize how fucked up you sound.
fixed
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Very pathetic excuse of killing people using the word of ''war''
There isno difference, just listen to yourself, and realize how fucked up you sound.
lol are you insinuating that there is no difference between civilians being killed in a war zone and actually targeting civilians?
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Kill them all, let Allah sort 'em out.
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lol are you insinuating that there is no difference between civilians being killed in a war zone and actually targeting civilians?
It depends what the cause is, you had no right to kill any iraki. so in this case a murder is a murder.
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your a fool do you deny that iraq and its government under saddam harbored terrorist and terrorist activities?
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It depends what the cause is, you had no right to kill any iraki. so in this case a murder is a murder.
How do you know we had no right to kill any Iraqi?
We need the oil, fuck off. I have no probelm accepting that the government did what they do for the future of our country.
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your a fool do you deny that iraq and its government under saddam harbored terrorist and terrorist activities?
you re a goddamn terrorist.
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you re a goddamn terrorist.
You're a goddamned idiot.
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How fucking stupid do you have to be to not know how to spell Iraq properly? And you're trying to lecture us on politics. That's gold. Stick to the genocide you Serbs seem to be so fond of.
Why did your people kill thousands in Srebrenica, El Cocksucko?
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How do you know we had no right to kill any Iraqi?
We need the oil, fuck off. I have no probelm accepting that the government did what they do for the future of our country.
Ok i can respect this, atleast you keep it real.
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You know Mariachi, there are many people who oppose this war... In the US... I believe right now the majority oppose the war...
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When the commander in chief of the armed forces of the United States of America (See the President) sends troops to do a job, I will certainly not wish harm on the troops.
I would rather have 200,000 innocent Iraqi civilians die than 1 regular joe in the US Armed forces.
Is that wrong? Maybe, but guess what, I'm an American citizen first... Before I'm a political dissident, I'm a citizen... and as an American citizen, I don't want ANY harm to befall my country-men in a time of war.
So does it suck that Iraqi civilians died... yep... but compared to the alternative of it being US troops, I don't give a damn.
I hate this war... I would bring all of the boys home tomorrow, but as long as they have to be there, I want them fighting for their lives in the BEST possible way they know how.
So do us all a favor, take your rhetoric elsewhere, because guess what... I may hate the fact we're there, and I may personally want to bring everyone home, but I'm not going to let you bad mouth the country that gives me the right to say whatever the fuck I want to.
I don't know where you are, and I really don't care to be honest, but if it's anywhere in Europe, (which is what I think I recall you saying) you better remember one thing.
You wouldn't be able to say anything about this if it wasn't for the US... Your ass would be staring at Swastikas all day.
So as far as I'm concerned, your opinion doesn't count, because if you're not in Iraq and your country isn't there... then no one gives a crap what you think... So why don't you do something like get a job and mind your own business.
This war sucks, but it has NOTHING to do with you.
(End US patriotic meltdown)
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Agreed 100%. Bush is a sick fuck.
or we can just do what the Libs have done since they won................NOTHI NG! But ya gotta love em', quite comical with NO commonsense!
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I would rather have 200,000 innocent Iraqi civilians die than 1 regular joe in the US Armed forces.
Is that wrong? Maybe, but guess what, I'm an American citizen first... Before I'm a political dissident, I'm a citizen... and as an American citizen, I don't want ANY harm to befall my country-men in a time of war.
DITTO
you know i dont agree with exactly how this war has been run but it has to be hard being under the politically correct lense of our society and fighting with basically your hands tied but I think you said it perfectly...like the war or not your support your troops no matter what
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or we can just do what the Libs have done since they won................NOTHI NG! But ya gotta love em', quite comical with NO commonsense!
joe,
you know damn well is was going to be impossible to accomplish anything with a democratic congress and a hard headed republican president. your the type of guy that would agree with the republican party no matter what they say. you are a LEMMING.
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iraqi's are the ones responsible for the deaths in iraq, those casualties are the result of them killing each other. they've been doing it for thousands of years. read some fucking history, dumbass.
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joe,
you know damn well is was going to be impossible to accomplish anything with a democratic congress and a hard headed republican president. your the type of guy that would agree with the republican party no matter what they say. you are a LEMING.
You sound like you'll agree with whatever the Dems say. That makes you both dangerous.
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So, did you find mass- destruction weapons in irak?
I don't know... I never looked! ;D
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You sound like you'll agree with whatever the Dems say. That makes you both dangerous.
absolutely not. I am a registered democrat. However I dont see myself voting for any of the democratic candidates in the upcoming elections.
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iraqi's are the ones responsible for the deaths in iraq, those casualties are the result of them killing each other. they've been doing it for thousands of years. read some fucking history, dumbass.
Haha i guess americans care for iraqi people, thats why they did it. Be a man and admit like tu_homles that you re scum.
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You wouldn't be able to say anything about this if it wasn't for the US... Your ass would be staring at Swastikas all day.
Hmm... by being late for WW1...WW2...guess your there right at the start of WW3.
epic being taught from American censored books brutal hollywood slow motion movie scene where the bullet enters Hitlers head and the world thanks America ::)
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Hmm... by being late for WW1...WW2...guess your there right at the start of WW3.
epic being taught from American censored books brutal hollywood slow motion movie scene where the bullet enters Hitlers head and the world thanks America ::)
Right, because the European front was doing SO well before the US got involved.
Yeah, maybe things would have been different without the US... MAYBE the Soviet Union would have been enough, but I doubt it... and so do most historians. Even before the US was in the War, they had been sending aid to European countries.
Epic trying to act like the US military might didn't save the asses of every European country, all the while knowing full well they did.
And epic changing the topic... This is about Iraq.
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If the US wouldn't have intervened in WWII, Europe would have been run by Stalin.
And you guys thought Hitler was bad.
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Haha i guess americans care for iraqi people, thats why they did it. Be a man and admit like tu_homles that you re scum.
get an education kid
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Are you posting from the firehouse toilets 'Tu' ;D
I'm not doubting the USA did help but not to the level you 'guys' think.
Before you got involved, The Luftwafee had been defeated, U-Boat threat no longer what it was etc etc - Could go on but can't be bothered - plus I don't want to ruin your delusions 8)
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If the US wouldn't have intervened in WWII, Europe would have been run by Stalin.
And you guys thought Hitler was bad.
Thats some fantasies you read there, we all know russians defeated the germans. the US actually supplied hitler with cash to start the war. But this information could be too hard for your simple soul to understand.
As far as Hitler goes, we would be better off with him as the main power, instead of Bush and co. Hitler keeps it real, and doesnt act like he's the good guy.
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Thats some fantasies you read there, we all know russians defeated the germans. the US actually supplied hitler with cash to start the war. But this information could be too hard for your simple soul to understand.
As far as Hitler goes, we would be better off with him as the main power, instead of Bush and co. Hitler keeps it real, and doesnt act like he's the good guy.
goodness your fukin delusional
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Thats some fantasies you read there, we all know russians defeated the germans. the US actually supplied hitler with cash to start the war. But this information could be too hard for your simple soul to understand.
As far as Hitler goes, we would be better off with him as the main power, instead of Bush and co. Hitler keeps it real, and doesnt act like he's the good guy.
He was the "good guy" to his own people... it was everyone else he was shitting on.
Let's keep it real here.
Are you posting from the firehouse toilets 'Tu' ;D
Haha... not today... I'm doing some off hours work at the moment... gotta help make those video games!
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your a fool do you deny that iraq and its government under saddam harbored terrorist and terrorist activities?
There is no evidence that sadam's regime had any business with the 911 hijackers, none.
Saddam was never good pals with bin laden, they were rivals.
what now bitch?
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/uncovered_the_whole_truth_about_the_iraq_war.php
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There is no evidence that sadam's regime had any business with the 911 hijackers, none.
Saddam was never good pals with bin laden, they were rivals.
what now bitch?
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/uncovered_the_whole_truth_about_the_iraq_war.php
lol
lol i never said he had anything to do with 9/11 jack ass What I said is that he harbored terrorist and terrorist activities
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp
anything else???
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lol
lol i never said he had anything to do with 9/11 jack ass What I said is that he harbored terrorist and terrorist activities
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp
anything else???
Well so does America...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-stephens/the-terrorists-among-us_b_67409.html
Backyard terrorism The US has been training terrorists at a camp in Georgia for years - and it's still at it
George Monbiot
Tuesday October 30, 2001
The Guardian
"If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents," George Bush announced on the day he began bombing Afghanistan, "they have become outlaws and murderers themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their own peril." I'm glad he said "any government", as there's one which, though it has yet to be identified as a sponsor of terrorism, requires his urgent attention. For the past 55 years it has been running a terrorist training camp, whose victims massively outnumber the people killed by the attack on New York, the embassy bombings and the other atrocities laid, rightly or wrongly, at al-Qaida's door. The camp is called the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, or Whisc. It is based in Fort Benning, Georgia, and it is funded by Mr Bush's government.
cont... http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,583254,00.html
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You know Mariachi, there are many people who oppose this war... In the US... I believe right now the majority oppose the war...
BUT
When the commander in chief of the armed forces of the United States of America (See the President) sends troops to do a job, I will certainly not wish harm on the troops.
I would rather have 200,000 innocent Iraqi civilians die than 1 regular joe in the US Armed forces.
Is that wrong? Maybe, but guess what, I'm an American citizen first... Before I'm a political dissident, I'm a citizen... and as an American citizen, I don't want ANY harm to befall my country-men in a time of war.
So does it suck that Iraqi civilians died... yep... but compared to the alternative of it being US troops, I don't give a damn.
I hate this war... I would bring all of the boys home tomorrow, but as long as they have to be there, I want them fighting for their lives in the BEST possible way they know how.
So do us all a favor, take your rhetoric elsewhere, because guess what... I may hate the fact we're there, and I may personally want to bring everyone home, but I'm not going to let you bad mouth the country that gives me the right to say whatever the fuck I want to.
I don't know where you are, and I really don't care to be honest, but if it's anywhere in Europe, (which is what I think I recall you saying) you better remember one thing.
You wouldn't be able to say anything about this if it wasn't for the US... Your ass would be staring at Swastikas all day.
So as far as I'm concerned, your opinion doesn't count, because if you're not in Iraq and your country isn't there... then no one gives a crap what you think... So why don't you do something like get a job and mind your own business.
This war sucks, but it has NOTHING to do with you.
(End US patriotic meltdown)
Just like a citizen of Nazi Germany was a citizen first, supporting Hitler?
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I'd like to meltdown but Holmes did a great job...so what he said...good job man. Hey Marichi its Iraq dumbass
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nope...... no weapons
but can we still bomb the fuckerz? so that way less immigrants (you know, those that don't get with the program and complain all the time, but won't go back to their shithole, because they don't have freedom...)
yeah, like they say ''feed a dog and he will still shit on your porch''
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Being an american isnt about being a good american going along with the statue quo....This country was found on dissent...Being able to speak your mind whether you agree with what the govt. is doing or not is what it is all about....In the last five years that has changed to if you do not agree with the war on terror that you are not patriotic or not a true american....
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Just like a citizen of Nazi Germany was a citizen first, supporting Hitler?
Yes, which is why no average citizens were tried at Nuremberg. Also, to compare Bush, as stupid as he may be to Hitler is just ignorant. Bush may be a dumbass, but he's not committing genocide.
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Dissent is fine..what some groups..prominent left groups ...is treasonous. Its the same thing as Vietnam...especially when u have North Vietnamese generals saying that they were done after the 68' TET offensive but were heartened to hang on, by the anti-war movement in America. We don't have a big anti-war movemnt because of the draft laws, but because of the Net and all that brings..groups can do the same damage to our efforts in Iraq. AQ watches our media and net sites and does things to manipulate our media. They have been more effective fighting and winning the media war then they have in Iraq, especially in the last 12 months. History is cyclical, especially warfare...u had all kinds of inventions coming out big during WW1...tanks..machine guns..planes etc...this one ur getting the media/medium war. U have imbeds like never before..satellite broadcast..the net... all kinds of new media that can be exploited like never before. They are good at it.
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Yes, which is why no average citizens were tried at Nuremberg. Also, to compare Bush, as stupid as he may be to Hitler is just ignorant. Bush may be a dumbass, but he's not committing genocide.
Scroll down till you reach Nazi collaboration..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
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Scroll down till you reach Nazi collaboration..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
Yes, and Arnold's dad was in the Nazi party... Straw man... You know this has nothing to do with G.W. today.
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How fucking stupid do you have to be to not know how to spell Iraq properly? And you're trying to lecture us on politics. That's gold. Stick to the genocide you Serbs seem to be so fond of.
Why did your people kill thousands in Srebrenica, El Cocksucko?
Well, we have done our share of genocidal crimes ourselves... Let things go through your brain before the go to your mouth.
We're NO EXAMPLE to anyone. We've been as murderous, or more, than any empire before. Not regular Americans mind you, whoever it is that is doing all this shit around the world.
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Well, we have done our share of genocidal crimes ourselves... Let things go through your brain before the go to your mouth.
We're NO EXAMPLE to anyone. We've been as murderous, or more, than any empire before. Not regular Americans mind you, whoever it is that is doing all this shit around the world.
The CIA and Indonesia, 1965, stands out here rather well:
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Or 1973, Chile?
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I know of at least two genocides, one sponsored by the US government and the other sponsored, mainly, by the governments at a State level, in mainland US: the genocides of American Indians and African Slaves.
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Scroll down till you reach Nazi collaboration..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
lol dude thats wikipedia go try and use that as a source in a research paper and get laughed at...and yes bezerker every established country does whats your point?
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lol dude thats wikipedia go try and use that as a source in a research paper and get laughed at...and yes bezerker every established country does whats your point?
Does what???
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You know this has nothing to do with G.W. today.
Where ideologies are involved, don't count on it!
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lol dude thats wikipedia go try and use that as a source in a research paper and get laughed at...and yes bezerker every established country does, whats your point?
fixed gezzz grammer nazi
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There is a story of a doctor in a small town that raped women he was in care of....To keep from being prosecuted he inserted a tube with someone else's blood into his arm so that when they went for DNA evidence he wouldnt be found out.....Well it worked for a while but they figured out what he was doing and he was prosecuted....Even though the citizens knew the facts againts the doctor, they knew for a fact that he was innocent.....He was found guilty but the citizens to this day know for sure he is innocent....
There is a lot of evidence showing that our govt is up to no good....
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There is a story of a doctor in a small town that raped women he was in care of....To keep from being prosecuted he inserted a tube with someone else's blood into his arm so that when they went for DNA evidence he wouldnt be found out.....Well it worked for a while but they figured out what he was doing and he was prosecuted....Even though the citizens knew the facts againts the doctor, they knew for a fact that he was innocent.....He was found guilty but the citizens to this day know for sure he is innocent....
There is a lot of evidence showing that our govt is up to no good....
lol what????
If he raped the women then he was guilty right? this makes no sense to me
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lol what????
If he raped the women then he was guilty right? this makes no sense to me
There is the link... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schneeberger
It doesnt mention though that the citizens of the town were absolutely sure he was innocent even after sentenced, and sent to jail.....
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seriously.... why so much crap about terrorism?? it's fucking war...just not with the usual infantry and all that crap...
and "ooh, but they are killing inocent people!" ....the purpose of war is to KILL and DOMINATE, don't you think that it's easier to take out the weak ones first(inocent?)
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seriously.... why so much crap about terrorism?? it's fucking war...just not with the usual infantry and all that crap...
and "ooh, but they are killing inocent people!" ....the purpose of war is to KILL and DOMINATE, don't you think that it's easier to take out the weak ones first(inocent?)
You a Darwinist?
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There is the link... &guy
It doesnt mention though that the citizens of the town were absolutely sure he was innocent even after sentenced, and sent to jail.....
I still dont understand how this shows that our government is up to no good?
plz explain
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We have a great divide going on in this country right now (Conservative Republican, Liberal Democrat). Unfortunately its not because of the war in Iraq. It's because of people's ideologies. The war in Iraq is a good excuse for the left to spew their venom on the right. Period.
The sad fact is that most of these people from the United States that are against this war have no idea why they're against it. They just know that they're supposed to be because the influential people in their lives (peers, parents) have told them so. Someone did say the word "LEMMINGS" and that is exactly what we're dealing with presently. People need to learn the facts and do so with an open mind.
Personally i am against this war. I think that we had no business getting into it and think that we dont have the resources to win this type of third generation warfare. But i don't buy into this fairy tail that GW is this monster dictator and he just wants Iraq's oil reserves. Come on people. I know that we know better than that.
If any of these people did their homework on the matter they would know that Bill Clinton wanted a piece of Saddam's ass the entire 8 years he was in office. I can document countless speeches where Clinton spoke of the danger of Saddam and his thugs and the more than reasonable suspicion that he was trying to get WMD's. Bill Clinton wanted to depose Saddam. The Republicans, however, never backed him up. They said CLINTON was a WAR MONGER and he was just trying to "wag the dog" to divert attention away from his scandals. But after 9/11 when GW wanted to go in there all the republicans were like "Hey great idea! You're a genius!". Now all the democrats who had Clintons back for trying to depose Saddam are demonizing GW for the same reason. It's quite sad actually.
The worst part of the whole matter is that no one will admit that they base their opinions on their ideologies, not on the facts. Their hatred becomes their religion. These people truly believe that Bush is evil and that he likes the fact that a lot of people are dying under his watch. We are a country chock full of media babies who gain all their knowledge from political pundits on TV who want to create anger, fear, and hatred on their shows because that is what gets the viewers. Rational, sober analysis does not.
We need to start thinking for ourselves and forming opinions based upon facts and not emotions. I personally believe that we need both liberals and conservatives in this country. They both make us great. But when a liberal or conservative ideology becomes like a religious faith to that person, that person loses all credibility in my mind. They defend positions based upon the letter in parentheses next to the speaker on the TV, not based upon facts. They villify anyone who disagrees with anything that their chosen party promotes, whether or not they are even knowledgable on that issue. I mean the fact is is that GW could get up on the podium during his state of the union, shit in his hand and throw it the people in the front row and there would be thousands of conservative republicans defending him for doing it. Hillary Clinton and John Edwards and John Kerry and plenty of other democrats voted in favor of this war. Now they say that "well GW is just doing it all wrong". And that is a good enough reason for the democrats? i just dont get it.
Read. educate yourself. keep an open mind. I dont know everything about world affairs and there are probably many people on this board more knowledgeable than myself on most of these issues but what i can say is that i am actively searching for the truth. I think that my greatest asset in my search for the truth is that i am not tied down to any particular political ideology. That would only limit me.
Peace