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CIA Plane Crashes in Yucatan Carrying 3.2 Tons of Cocaine
Sept. 26, 2007 -- SPECIAL REPORT -- Plane that crashed in Yucatan with 3.2 tons of cocaine was CIA rendition aircraft
WMR has learned from knowledgeable European sources that a Gulfstream II that crash landed 1.3 miles from Tikokob in Yucatan, Mexico after being chased by Mexican military helicopters for flying illegally into Mexican airspace was one of the planes chartered to the CIA for the renditioning of kidnapped prisoners. The crash landing took place on September 24. The tail number of the Gulfstream is N987SA.
Mexican soldiers found no bodies at the crash site but did discover 132 bags containing 3.3 metric tons of cocaine. The origination of the Gulfstream's flight is unknown but it was destined for Cancun when it crash landed. Police later said they had arrested one passenger who was on board the plane.
The operator of the Gulfstream is Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc. of Coconut Creek, Florida. Its address, according to the Florida Division of Corporations, is 4811 Lyons Technology, Coconut Creek, Florida 33073.
On June 10, 2006, WMR reported that the N987SA Grumman G-1159, Gulfstream II, was operated by S/A Holdings LLC and had been involved in the renditioning of prisoners to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
On April 21, 2006, WMR reported on a similar incident involving a plane connected with the U.S. government: "On April 10, Mexican police, acting on a tip from INTERPOL, seized a DC-9 aircraft carrying 5.5 tons of cocaine with an estimated street value of $100 million. The U.S.-registered plane was en route from Caracas, Venezuela, which, according to French intelligence, is a known hub for cocaine shipments from Colombia to Saudi Arabia. The DC-9 (registration number N900SA) made an emergency landing at Ciudad del Carmen in Campeche state. A Falcon aircraft that arrived at Ciudad del Carmen from Toluca airport in Mexico state in advance of the arrival of the DC-9 was also seized. The cocaine was contained in 128 suitcases. The Mexican police later claimed the unidentified DC-9's pilot managed to escape. However, the police did arrest the co-pilot. The DC-9 was painted in the familiar blue and white colors of the U.S. Transportation Security Administration with am official-looking seal with an American eagle bearing the inscription: 'Sky Way Aircraft - Protection of America's Skies.' The registered owner of the aircraft is: Royal Sons Inc., 15875 Fairchild Drive, Clearwater, Florida."
http://www.pimpinturtle.com/2007/09/26/cia-plane-crashes-in-yucatan-carrying-32-tons-of-cocaine.aspx
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/12/19210/608/933/420107
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CIA Torture Jet crashed with 4 Tons of COCAINE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE)
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Looks like they're still at their old games :)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/12/19210/608/933/420107
This needs to be talked about 8)
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Well, risking having your head cut off for a job has a way of makin a guy rationalise shit...
They have all the oppurtunity and connections in the world.
Some say A blind eye was turned to cocaine in a certian past admin run out of the White house basement,
and the street scene then sure made it seem true.
Hey, maybe its a plan to raise national productivity? ;)
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Well, risking having your head cut off for a job has a way of makin a guy rationalise shit...
They have all the oppurtunity and connections in the world.
Some say A blind eye was turned to cocaine in a certian past admin run out of the White house basement,
and the street scene then sure made it seem true.
Hey, maybe its a plan to raise national productivity? ;)
{LOL} There's a HUGE difference between 'a blind eye' and 'a watchful eye that ensures smooth operation'.
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{LOL} There's a HUGE difference between 'a blind eye' and 'a watchful eye that ensures smooth operation'.
I'm carefull what I write... ;)
Some say.... Could it be... Is.... Those are all nice ways to eliminate liable/ defamation.
Been thru this one w/ the attorney before.
You can get REAL NASTY if you phrase it as a question. Then they cant do shit, ,,, Well other than hide you at
Gitmo for a decade....
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I'm carefull what I write... ;)
Some say.... Could it be... Is.... Those are all nice ways to eliminate liable/ defamation.
Been thru this one w/ the attorney before.
You can get REAL NASTY if you phrase it as a question. Then they cant do shit, ,,, Well other than hide you at
Gitmo for a decade....
You would not in a thousand years be held liable for defamation against the cia. They wouldn't promote the issue like that and I don't think they could. The worst that could happen is you'll end up committing suicide and most likely you'd have to be on some ongoing crusade to expose it with gusto. They don't give a shit about this story being carried by some small blogs and talked about on a few message boards. Start writing books, land an interview with PBS and go on speaking tours you might have a problem.
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You would not in a thousand years be held liable for defamation against the cia. They wouldn't promote the issue like that and I don't think they could. The worst that could happen is you'll end up committing suicide and most likely you'd have to be on some ongoing crusade to expose it with gusto. They don't give a shit about this story being carried by some small blogs and talked about on a few message boards. Start writing books, land an interview with PBS and go on speaking tours you might have a problem.
I know,, its just habit from Biz dealings.... Bad things will happen if you screw w/ them enough though.
Look at Casey. ::)
Oh, he fell out of the boat? Maybe those swimming attack rabbits taht took on Carter got him.
Russian rabbits no doubt.
I actually think the CIA has been hurt badly by Clinton. Our country needs a certain "We dont need no stinkin' badges"
bad ass crew. Billy made it PC and hamstrung it. We are at serious threat from the Islamic world today.
Ignoring that is stupid, as stupid as taking the fight to their turf via conventional warfare.
Yes a Village in Texas badly misses their idiot... Cant wait till they get him back...
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well this turned out to be crickets from "the government wouldn't" crowd
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I'm sure there's nothing to this
no need to know about this
nothing to see here
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move along ;D
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Oh,, you know them guys just kind of make up their own retirement plan as they go.
Leave 'em alone now...
It stimulates the economy that Bush broke. ;D gangs, LE & Prison budgets... you name it.
Good for the economy when you really think about it...
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Oh,, you know them guys just kind of make up their own retirement plan as they go.
Leave 'em alone now...
It stimulates the economy that Bush broke. ;D gangs, LE & Prison budgets... you name it.
Good for the economy when you really think about it...
Yes, how else could be build such a robust police state for whatever unknown purposes down the road...
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Because these websites are factual right...this is true proof. U guys are idiots. We have to eat this shit but as soon as coach posts something from Rush, he's shouted down because of his source. Yet ur quoting from some far left blog. I wish the CIA as was as badass as u think and can do the stuff they are accused of. There are organizations that do some truly black things but I doubt they will end up in the daily KOS. ::)
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HH - do your own research. The facts about the plane or it's cargo are not in dispute. Just becaue this plane was used by the CIA for extraordinary renditions does not necessarily mean that it was currently being used by the CIA.....that's where it get's fuzzy. The fuzziness doesn't mean it should just be ignored or given the benefit of doubt.
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Ok I should have included that in my post. If i were a CIA agent in chrarge of getting planes...I guess I would go to sources that might also employ drug dealers....under the radar etc....worked for them/should work for us. But was ita CIA plane running drugs....I don't belive that. To big an operation with too many eyes and oversight.
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Interesting stuff....
Update on CIA drug plane owned by “Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc”
Mark Frauenfelder
Boingboing
September 6, 2008
Here's an update on the strange story of the Gulfstream II jet filled with 3.7 tons of cocaine that crashed in the Yucatan last year. The Mexico City newspaper El Universal reports that European Parliament was investigating the circumstances surrounding the plane, which had previously been used by the CIA for "extraordinary rendition" flights.
The daily said it had obtained documents from the United States and the European Parliament which "show that that plane flew several times to Guantanamo, Cuba, presumably to transfer terrorism suspects." It said the European Parliament was investigating the private Grumman Gulfstream II, registered by the European Organization for the Safety of Air Navigation, for suspected use in CIA "rendition" flights in which prisoners are covertly transferred to a third country or US-run detention centers.
Last October, the Austin American Statesman reported the plane had previously flown to Guantanamo Bay.
Here's a Chicago Public Radio story from October 31, 2007 about the crashed CIA drug plane.
The crashed drug plane also has been linked to a Bush fundraiser.
Mad Cow Morning news has been covering stories about the CIA and drug smuggling. The plane was owned by Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc.
Mad Cow visited Donna Blue's offices and took photos of what appears to be a sham company. Here's a photo of some unmarked police cars parked in front Donna Blue Aircraft's empty suite:
(http://www.boingboing.net/200809051517.jpg)
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Confirmed: Mexico drug plane used for CIA ‘rendition’ flights
AFP
September 6, 2008
A private jet that crash-landed almost one year ago in eastern Mexico carrying 3.3 tons of cocaine had previously been used for CIA “rendition” flights, a newspaper report said here Thursday, citing documents from the United States and the European Parliament.
The plane was carrying Colombian drugs for the fugitive leader of Mexico’s Sinaloa cartel, Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman, when it crash-landed in the Yucatan peninsula on September 24, El Universal reported.
The daily said it had obtained documents from the United States and the European Parliament which “show that that plane flew several times to Guantanamo, Cuba, presumably to transfer terrorism suspects.”
It said the European Parliament was investigating the private Grumman Gulfstream II, registered by the European Organization for the Safety of Air Navigation, for suspected use in CIA “rendition” flights in which prisoners are covertly transferred to a third country or US-run detention centers.
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The US does some secret, less than honorable things.
WHO KNEW!?!?!?!?
::)
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you will have the right wingers on here claim conspiracy.
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you will have the right wingers on here claim conspiracy.
Lol no you'll have a bunch of lefty Bush-haters claim it and them immediately attempt to blame it on the admin whether there is any evidence or not.
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you will have the right wingers on here claim conspiracy.
Lately, I've been more entertained than ever by the opinions of some of our resident imbeciles. ;D
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The US does some secret, less than honorable things.
WHO KNEW!?!?!?!?
::)
LOL... You're such a gomer.
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LOL... You're such a gomer.
Eh.. ignorance is bliss, right?
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The crashed drug plane also has been linked to a Bush fundraiser.
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I hope there is more substance than this sentence.
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Mad Cow visited Donna Blue's offices and took photos of what appears to be a sham company. Here's a photo of some unmarked police cars parked in front Donna Blue Aircraft's empty suite:
Wow great reporting, they actually have evidence it is a sham company
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The Contras, Cocaine,and Covert Operations
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm)
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Even though I am right wing I hate the war on drugs and think its a waste of time, money, effort and a lousy excuse to send people to prison and keep our law enforcment budgets well funded.
That being said, every single administration regardless of what party is in office allows drugs to flow into the country, its common knowledge. I dont understand why this is a shocking revelation.
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Nawwwwwh...someone is LYING. The CIA does not deal drugs...right?
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CIA long history of drug trafficking
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again?
I posted this a long time ago
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again?
I posted this a long time ago
So did I...nothing wrong with a refresher course...
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Does anyone have the precise coordinates of where the plane landed?
And a few crispy dollar bills and some bottles of top shelf liqour?