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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on December 19, 2007, 12:05:16 PM
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This has to be the nastiest stuff I have ever seen. You need to read these testimonials. I makes me wonder what really is inside of my intestines.
http://www.drnatura.com/picture_gallery.html
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i read this stuff before and even considered doing but i talk to my doctor and an internist...they both said this is bogus and that no one is storing stuff like that in their body...both said to take an enema to cleanse or to bulk up your diet with fiber...the stated that the human body is remarkably adept at ridding the body of waste...save you $$$$ MON..
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The ingredient pysillium husk has an interesting property when it's mixed with water. It forms a gel in the mold of the container that it was mixed in. You can confirm this by mixing some Metamucil with water and letting the stuff sit in the glass. So it's not to much of a stretch to see that what one thinks is pounds of impacted fecal matter (I feel dirty just typing that) is simply a gel of the shape of one's lower tract. Add some herbs to give it color and presto...a "detox" product.
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The ingredient pysillium husk has an interesting property when it's mixed with water. It forms a gel in the mold of the container that it was mixed in. You can confirm this by mixing some Metamucil with water and letting the stuff sit in the glass. So it's not to much of a stretch to see that what one thinks is pounds of impacted fecal matter (I feel dirty just typing that) is simply a gel of the shape of one's lower tract. Add some herbs to give it color and presto...a "detox" product.
I while back i read something about a "liver cleanse". They had people who were shitting out supposedly hundreds of stones. I knew right then it was bs. No way people carry that much "products" in their organs.
It involved taking in olive oil and some other stuff. I guess the cholesterol or something in the olive oil clumped up and formed some kind of little stone.
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I've done fasting, colonics & liver cleanse.
I agree that there's no way that this kind of stuff is in your colon & that the most likely explanation is that it is the product itself that is forming this way in your guts.
I did a 7 day fast with colonic irrigation every day - every day there was stuff coming out. It was a good experience but I'm not sure I'd do it again. I even took pysillium husk but all that did was help me continue passing stools (yes, that's just like musical chairs) whilst I fasted. There was stuff coming out - but not like the pics above. It did not result in the stuff above but this was just pysillium husk and nothing else.
As for the liver cleanse - I don't know to be honest. In the afternoon you drink a PINT of olive oil with crushed garlic & orange juice in it. Fuck knows what the OJ is for but if it's to make it taste better, it fails. All night you are burping up garlic - this is on the 5th day with no food too, so it's not as if you are at your best. It's a rough night. In the morning, all you have is liver salts & within a few hours you do shit out lots of green 'shale'.
I have no idea what the stuff is that you shit out but it wouldn't surprise me if it was just the olive oil & liver salts. Can't say I felt better for it because the oil made me feel so lousy that by the time it was out I was sure to feel better than the night before.
After the 7 days I felt great, I'd do it again but pass on the liver cleanse next time - no-one needs to go through that.
To me - fasting & colonics is a good cleanse - I think a lot of the other stuff is new - age bollocks to be honest.
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This stuff does look like it is probably formed by the product. Most people say it takes a week or two before they crap this out. They probably add pysillium, some gums and it gels up into that.
What gets me is how can someone claim to shit this out, yet still get a pencil, pull it out of the toilet and take a close up shot. First of all the smell would be foulest thing ever, secondly what the fvck is anyone doing pulling this out of the toilet.
The testimonials are pretty outrageous. Some people claim to shit out what looks to be spaghetti and think its worms, others shit out white mms and think its parasite eggs.
This product does get a lot of great reviews if you search around the internet. Something just doesn't seem right with this.
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I've done a 2 day liver cleanse and gallbladder flush and it did wonders for me. I had a constant dull ache from my gallbladder/liver area from drinking/shitty diet and when I did the liver cleanse i shit out all the potential stones and felt incredibly better.
Its not thousands of gall stones its the cholesterol thats build up that can potentially become gall stones if your body does not get rid of them. I would recommend it if you have symptomes like i did but plan on shitting like 30 times.
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I've done a 2 day liver cleanse and gallbladder flush and it did wonders for me. I had a constant dull ache from my gallbladder/liver area from drinking/shitty diet and when I did the liver cleanse i shit out all the potential stones and felt incredibly better.
Its not thousands of gall stones its the cholesterol thats build up that can potentially become gall stones if your body does not get rid of them. I would recommend it if you have symptomes like i did but plan on shitting like 30 times.
What did the flush consist of?
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You got to remember, the people that first use this are probably those that have sat on their ass for years eating tons of processed foods and little fiber. Snacking out of a bag watching Oprea.
Most of us here have had a healthy diet for the most part and may not have that many toxins. However, all my years of bodybuilding and eating tons of meat, and not so clean all the time, I had quite a build up going. Started feeling like crap and did more research on gut health. Upped my fiber from foods, took enzymes and drank plenty of pure water. Helped big time and am focusing more on internal health as I get older.
Currently my girl uses this Dr. Natura, both kits. She started with the fiber one, took a few days and then the floodgates opened. I did not inspect her shit, but her tummy got flatter and her skin looked so much better. Then she did the toxin product and energy went up, midsection tightened more and skin was 1000% improved!
I say give it a go but please no poo pics as evidence, we will take your word for it!
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What did the flush consist of?
It was mostly drinking epsom salts and water/grape fruit juice periodically throughout the day and like a half cup of olive oil before bed time and more epsom salts in the morning.
I think this is what i followed, or something very similar:
http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
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You got to remember, the people that first use this are probably those that have sat on their ass for years eating tons of processed foods and little fiber. Snacking out of a bag watching Oprea.
Most of us here have had a healthy diet for the most part and may not have that many toxins. However, all my years of bodybuilding and eating tons of meat, and not so clean all the time, I had quite a build up going. Started feeling like crap and did more research on gut health. Upped my fiber from foods, took enzymes and drank plenty of pure water. Helped big time and am focusing more on internal health as I get older.
Currently my girl uses this Dr. Natura, both kits. She started with the fiber one, took a few days and then the floodgates opened. I did not inspect her shit, but her tummy got flatter and her skin looked so much better. Then she did the toxin product and energy went up, midsection tightened more and skin was 1000% improved!
I say give it a go but please no poo pics as evidence, we will take your word for it!
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I AGREE NO MORE POO PICS...JUST UP THE FIBER AND THE WATER IF YOU WANT AND TAKE MENTAL IMAGES NO MORE POO PICS...GROOSSSS
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i did the dr natura colon cleanse for over a month, i passed crazy looking shit but all it was, was fiber shaped like your intestine. it actually gave me bowel problems after a while, made me constipated and irregular with colic etc.
i would expand on why i think its not safe if anyone asks, but in my opinion based on an education or continuing education in the field is that the ingredients pose many problems.
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i did the dr natura colon cleanse for over a month, i passed crazy looking shit but all it was, was fiber shaped like your intestine. it actually gave me bowel problems after a while, made me constipated and irregular with colic etc.
i would expand on why i think its not safe if anyone asks, but in my opinion based on an education or continuing education in the field is that the ingredients pose many problems.
Well since my girl loves it and I can not get her to do other products, what is so wrong with it? You can give me the cliff note version bro, I grasp pretty easy..thanks.
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Well since my girl loves it and I can not get her to do other products, what is so wrong with it? You can give me the cliff note version bro, I grasp pretty easy..thanks.
the powder and tea contain anthrquinones with are stimulating laxatives like senna and aloe powder. dependence usually occurs on them after 7-10 days and they can weaken the bowels by inducing peristalisis. just taking the powder is ok but i dont like taking any herb for extended periods of time. people think natural =safe which is not the case at all.
she would get the same effect from some mag citrate and flax seed. the herbs like burdock, rhubarb, aloe, senna are all habit forming and you dont want to have to retrain your bowels man, trust me its not fun.
she wouldnt have many problems on it unless she had a bowel issue, but dependence and irritation of the muscosa are very real issues with that shit.
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Thanks man, I will look into all that a bit more.
I agree with regards to the herbs and was trying to explain to her that long periods of time on herbal laxitives are not a good thing and can wind up being counterproductive. She drinks that tea every night like clockwork. She says she is going more often but solid, no blow outs so far :D
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Thanks man, I will look into all that a bit more.
I agree with regards to the herbs and was trying to explain to her that long periods of time on herbal laxitives are not a good thing and can wind up being counterproductive. She drinks that tea every night like clockwork. She says she is going more often but solid, no blow outs so far :D
I have had a number of girlfriends that have been into laxatives - in all cases, their reason has been that they think it helps them lose weight.
Best to get them off the stuff ASAP.
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I have had a number of girlfriends that have been into laxatives - in all cases, their reason has been that they think it helps them lose weight.
Best to get them off the stuff ASAP.
OVer the counter laxitive and herbal laxitives are two totally different things. My girl is not using to do a crash-lose-weight-quick which is what most girls use the over the counter for.
She is using to get her intestinal health in check which her losing some weight will come yes, but not her goal from these products.
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I while back i read something about a "liver cleanse". They had people who were shitting out supposedly hundreds of stones. I knew right then it was bs. No way people carry that much "products" in their organs.
It involved taking in olive oil and some other stuff.
ebson salt !
I think it's bullshit too
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ebson salt !
I think it's bullshit too
epsom
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epsom
that too
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its not bullshit. Doc's couldnt do anything for my gallbladder because ultrasounds can only pick up large stones. You can have liver/gallbladder congestion with smaller stones and it flushes that stuff out and I was quite releived no pain or aching since.
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It was mostly drinking epsom salts and water/grape fruit juice periodically throughout the day and like a half cup of olive oil before bed time and more epsom salts in the morning.
I think this is what i followed, or something very similar:
http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
That site is cooky. Is that person serious about curing AIDS with herbs and stuff?
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That site is cooky. Is that person serious about curing AIDS with herbs and stuff?
most of the people on that site are idiots who reach idiotic conclusions about there health and the causes.
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That site was just an example of the formula I used. There are many other examples from other sites that use something very similar or the exact recipe. Usually the flush is done after a week long of drinking apple juice and sticking to a mainly vegan diet to help detox the liver and kidneys. I just did the flush though.
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That site was just an example of the formula I used. There are many other examples from other sites that use something very similar or the exact recipe. Usually the flush is done after a week long of drinking apple juice and sticking to a mainly vegan diet to help detox the liver and kidneys. I just did the flush though.
i know about hulda clarks liver cleanse, it may work. but there are alot of frauds, and straight morons on that site. everyone has parasites apparently.
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Weather or not it did exactly what it was supposed to is beyond me. I know i no longer felt the awful ache and discomfort in my gallbladder/liver area. I think we probably all have a certain amount of build up of parasites or things we have accumulated over the years and would probably feel better if we were able to get rid of them.
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Weather or not it did exactly what it was supposed to is beyond me. I know i no longer felt the awful ache and discomfort in my gallbladder/liver area. I think we probably all have a certain amount of build up of parasites or things we have accumulated over the years and would probably feel better if we were able to get rid of them.
we would feel better if we had more parasitic infections actually, the eosinophils which are responsible for allergic reactions are also responsible for parasitic infections, you see that is why we have such high incidences of allergies in the modern world compared to shit holes. its the cleanliness hypothesis and if you think you have a parasitic infection a simple CBC count would indicate it. there is definitely some gunk in us for sure, but parasites, and heavy metals, and candida are not rampant like alot of those people claim. disease is complex and is there are multiple factors, lifestyle, genetics, history etc.
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i take bowtroll and i dont give a damn what anybody says,when i am on it i feel 100% better.
bench
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i take bowtroll and i dont give a damn what anybody says,when i am on it i feel 100% better.
bench
yes it contains, carminitives, bitters, anti inflammatories, cholagogues, cholerectics, hepatics,etc.. you would feel better, im just saying that the toxin theory does get taken too far. i felt better too man, i just think the teas etc are dangerous.
glad it works for ya. i was considering tryign that one when i tried dr naturas.
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I've actually posted about this product a while back. Wife and I tried it and it works great though, I only still use the fiber, not the other stuff. Taste good and works for me on a "regular" basis. Expensive though.
Most fiber supps don't work for me but this does....it's the ONLY reason I buy it at it's current price. Most can get results from high quality store bought fiber supps.
PS - I NEVER had and crazy looking stuff come out of me...I don't know whether to be skeptical or proud that my diet has been fairly good for so long that I didn't have any "build up" of nasty stuff.
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Looks like someone had an Arby's night.
(http://www.drnatura.com/colon_detox_images/colon_detox_lg103.jpg)
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we would feel better if we had more parasitic infections actually, the eosinophils which are responsible for allergic reactions are also responsible for parasitic infections, you see that is why we have such high incidences of allergies in the modern world compared to shit holes. its the cleanliness hypothesis and if you think you have a parasitic infection a simple CBC count would indicate it. there is definitely some gunk in us for sure, but parasites, and heavy metals, and candida are not rampant like alot of those people claim. disease is complex and is there are multiple factors, lifestyle, genetics, history etc.
I have an interesting story that relates to this. When I was growing up, I had two close friends who lived down the street. Their mother was an extreme clean freak, always using anti-bacterial cleansers on everything all the time, constantly washing shit in the house. I never really made the connection until later, but my two friends were sick a LOT more than I was. They played outside (back in the good old days) with my brother and I all the time, but they would constantly get sick. I just thought they were unlucky, but later realized it might have well been due to their mother cleaning the shit out of everything.
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I have an interesting story that relates to this. When I was growing up, I had two close friends who lived down the street. Their mother was an extreme clean freak, always using anti-bacterial cleansers on everything all the time, constantly washing shit in the house. I never really made the connection until later, but my two friends were sick a LOT more than I was. They played outside (back in the good old days) with my brother and I all the time, but they would constantly get sick. I just thought they were unlucky, but later realized it might have well been due to their mother cleaning the shit out of everything.
definitely, sickness or illness and bacteria, viruses etc are like training for the immune system without anything to do naive t cells attack our bodies resulting in autoimmune illnesses. you see you have something called major histocompatibility complexes which along with antigen presenting cells(phagocytes, dendritic cells etc) allow you to self distinguish, with nothing to do this system sometimes fails and shit like allergies(immune system overeacting, and flus colds) happen as the immune system has no practice. allergies are premature or inappropriate degranulation of mast cells and improper production of key leukotrienes. if anyone has allergies they are one of the better illnesses that respond to natural intervention.
a cure for allergies, and colitis etc that has been proposed is self infection of parasites, and it works. there are studies on pubmed showing hookworm eliminates allergies, and they are now getting ready to introduce worms as a treatment for IBD.
so when you read these quack sites claiming everyone has allergies, just know that they are wrong. you would be very ill if you had a bad parasitic infection and they are obvious, with things like explosive loose stools and butt piss etc......
eat dirt, its good for you :D
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i take bowtroll and i dont give a damn what anybody says,when i am on it i feel 100% better.
bench
So you stay on it all year round? Do you cycle it or otherwise fullblown constipated?
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I tried the program a while back. I actually think it is a very good product. I tried to follow it as closely as possible. I made sure i started on a weekend in case i had to run to the bathroom. The product tasted fine, kind of minty flavor. I never had anything come out that looked liked some of the pictures posted. That might possibly be because i usually eat pretty good and workout 5-6 days a week. Definately noticed more flattening of the stomach area, less bloat. Also seemed like when i went to the bathroom i emtied out more, but it never gave me the runs like i thought it might. If you use the whole program kit i would recommend that you make sure you drink a lot of water after you use the tea or you'll get some really bad cramping within a couple hours. I now use the colonix product at night. Two scoops and alot of water. Its tastes and works better than other ones that i've tried from the health food store.