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Title: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 10:21:56 PM


Olympia Judge and former IFBB pro Mike Katz opines that 2007 Overall National BB Champion Evan Centopani will soon be in line to garner strong consideration for top Mr. Olympia Honors.

"He is well rounded and articulate. He maintains a full time postion with a titlke search comany, and holds a college degree. He is persobale, and, at Gold's Gym in New Haven, CT., where he trains, he does not ostracize hard trainers or casual onlookers if they have questions or comments.

He takes his sucess along with setbacks with equanimity. He has all the physical goods to go all the way.

And, he does not carry any felonious baggage like some other candidates.

End Mike's Quote.

I paraphrased this quote from a recent discussion I had with Mike.

I agree. For bodybuilding to gain perhaps a bit more solid footing amidst an increasingly turbulent sea of steroid tumult amongst authorities, more palatable mcompetitors such as Evan will do well in putting forth a superior image.

Mike is/ was disgusted with some of the recent pushes to award high placings to bb's with very unsavory pasts (and presents).

Yes, yes. I know some will defend whom you know I am referring to.

Guys like Arnold DO NOT want nationally chroicalled felons and general scaliwags to wun his ASC crown.

I am telling you.

Guys like Evan are the future.

The scaliwags will not be.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 20, 2007, 10:31:20 PM
Brandon Curry.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: pumpster on December 20, 2007, 10:38:31 PM
http://www.universalnutrition.com/athletes/ec02.cfm
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: aussiepro on December 20, 2007, 10:39:15 PM
there are so many crims in bbing today, its good to see a guy who has a honest job and a good outlook, i like evan but his physique has a while before olympia potential, especially with guys like victor wolf and dexter still in the way
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 10:42:40 PM
Brandon Curry.

Perhaps but he has some to prove yet.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: The Jeenius on December 20, 2007, 10:45:27 PM

Olympia Judge and former IFBB pro Mike Katz opines that 2007 Overall National BB Champion Evan Centopani will soon be in line to garner strong consideration for top Mr. Olympia Honors.

"He is well rounded and articulate. He maintains a full time postion with a titlke search comany, and holds a college degree. He is persobale, and, at Gold's Gym in New Haven, CT., where he trains, he does not ostracize hard trainers or casual onlookers if they have questions or comments.

He takes his sucess along with setbacks with equanimity. He has all the physical goods to go all the way.

And, he does not carry any felonious baggage like some other candidates.

End Mike's Quote.

I paraphrased this quote from a recent discussion I had with Mike.

I agree. For bodybuilding to gain perhaps a bit more solid footing amidst an increasingly turbulent sea of steroid tumult amongst authorities, more palatable mcompetitors such as Evan will do well in putting forth a superior image.

Mike is/ was disgusted with some of the recent pushes to award high placings to bb's with very unsavory pasts (and presents).

Yes, yes. I know some will defend whom you know I am referring to.

Guys like Arnold DO NOT want nationally chroicalled felons and general scaliwags to wun his ASC crown.

I am telling you.

Guys like Evan are the future.

The scaliwags will not be.

Mike

Hi Evan!
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: rocket on December 20, 2007, 10:47:27 PM
I don't get the flowery language combined with missing letters.  Was that typed or is that your opinion?
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 10:48:19 PM
there are so many crims in bbing today, its good to see a guy who has a honest job and a good outlook, i like evan but his physique has a while before olympia potential, especially with guys like victor wolf and dexter still in the way

Well, first alkl of, if they are using, they are ALL commiting felonies.

Like I said, 3 to 5 years and he COULD be ready.

NO to Victor.

I am telling you, I have heard this first hand from some very big horses mouths...he simply has too spotty of a track record and integrity that is poor, non-existent, or spotty at best.

There is too much of a pandora's box to potentially be opened, at the risk of sponsor's losses, to have him as the world's top titleholder.

I know it seems unfair, but that is life, as you know.

Dexter will soon likely fade, Wolf is spectacular, but his utter l;ack of calf development (when comparing to his otherwise stellar physique, could prove too heavy of an albatross to remove from his neck.

I say be ready to see Evan replace Jay in due time.

I could be wrong, though,

Best regards,

Mike    
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 10:50:04 PM
Hi Evan!

No, I am a Ct Chiropractor. Many of you know me and are actually my patients.

Please be serious on at least some of these posts, friends. Not everything is a joke, you know.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: The Jeenius on December 20, 2007, 10:50:44 PM
So what you're saying is.....  it doesnt matter who the best on stage is ???
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: webcake on December 20, 2007, 10:52:30 PM
Mr Olympia in a few years... i don't know.

But if he stays smart and patient he should look amazing in 5 years or so.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 10:52:39 PM
I don't get the flowery language combined with missing letters.  Was that typed or is that your opinion?

Sorry about my writing style. That's how I write. As long as you get the message, please forgive my flowery prose.

Missing letters...relax, friend. I am not bothering with spell checking and I write a lot of this between patients. So it gets sloppy.

My opinion, and Mike Katz's very astute opinion.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: aussiepro on December 20, 2007, 10:53:32 PM
Well, first alkl of, if they are using, they are ALL commiting felonies.

Like I said, 3 to 5 years and he COULD be ready.

NO to Victor.

I am telling you, I have heard this first hand from some very big horses mouths...he simply has too spotty of a track record and integrity that is poor, non-existent, or spotty at best.

There is too much of a pandora's box to potentially be opened, at the risk of sponsor's losses, to have him as the world's top titleholder.

I know it seems unfair, but that is life, as you know.

Dexter will soon likely fade, Wolf is spectacular, but his utter l;ack of calf development (when comparing to his otherwise stellar physique, could prove too heavy of an albatross to remove from his neck.

I say be ready to see Evan replace Jay in due time.

I could be wrong, though,

Best regards,

Mike    
dont get me wrong i would love to see evan take the bbing world by storm when he debuts next year, but i think there are some keys areas he needs to focus on before he wil win an O
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 10:56:33 PM
So what you're saying is.....  it doesnt matter who the best on stage is ???

To a degree, no, it doesn't.

An old axiom from war:

"For the good of the many, sometimes the few must suffer."

So, yeah, maybe some think a guy who is best onstage should be the top vote getter.

But that is very often not how it turns out.

Could you blame a sponsor for nixing a first place-caliber guy if, when he does annex the top spot, comes out with all of these convictions and legal problems, and then they can hardly advertise/capitalize on their "investment".

Fair...maybe not.

Good business sense...yes.

Best thing is to not sponsor the worst guys at all.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 10:59:20 PM
Mr Olympia in a few years... i don't know.

But if he stays smart and patient he should look amazing in 5 years or so.

Agreed.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: The Jeenius on December 20, 2007, 11:00:56 PM
To a degree, no, it doesn't.

An old axiom from war:

"For the good of the many, sometimes the few must suffer."

So, yeah, maybe some think a guy who is best onstage should be the top vote getter.

But that is very often not how it turns out.

Could you blame a sponsor for nixing a first place-caliber guy if, when he does annex the top spot, comes out with all of these convictions and legal problems, and then they can hardly advertise/capitalize on their "investment".

Fair...maybe not.

Good business sense...yes.

Best thing is to not sponsor the worst guys at all.

Mike

a good business sense would tell anyone to get away from bodybuilding.  Just cause one guy got caught, doesnt mean they're not all blatently guilty.  The only reason govt leaves the "sport" alone, is cause nobody cares.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 11:01:44 PM
dont get me wrong i would love to see evan take the bbing world by storm when he debuts next year, but i think there are some keys areas he needs to focus on before he wil win an O

Agreed.

That is why I said 3 to 5 years.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: aussiepro on December 20, 2007, 11:02:44 PM
why do you find it necessary to end every quote with your name
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 11:04:52 PM
a good business sense would tell anyone to get away from bodybuilding.  Just cause one guy got caught, doesnt mean they're not all blatently guilty.  The only reason govt leaves the "sport" alone, is cause nobody cares.

I agree with you, partially.

BB is not a great business venture for anyone on the periphery of it. Different if you are a bigt supp company, maybe, to sell sugary-solution protein powder to uninformed youths,.

However, there are those who "care". The IOC states that BB is the 7th largest participation sport in the world.

So, with such high numbers, there will be interest.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 11:07:40 PM
why do you find it necessary to end every quote with your name

Why not?

I have nothing to hide. Sorry, I am unfamiliar with the proper posting 'decorum' on these threads.

And, please, I am not hear to cast aspersions at others overt meaningless intricacies such as posting my name.

For instance, when I meet someone for the first time, I shake their hand and say, My name is M ike.

You know, common courtesy.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: The Jeenius on December 20, 2007, 11:11:22 PM
Why not?

I have nothing to hide. Sorry, I am unfamiliar with the proper posting 'decorum' on these threads.

And, please, I am not hear to cast aspersions at others overt meaningless intricacies such as posting my name.

For instance, when I meet someone for the first time, I shake their hand and say, My name is M ike.

You know, common courtesy.

Mike

Hi Adonis!
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 11:13:26 PM
Hi Adonis!

No.

I am Mike, from Connecticut. NPC judge, competitor (25 years) and promotor. Also a chiropractor.

There are plenty of those on this board who are my patients and can vouch for me, not that I care if they do or not.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: aussiepro on December 20, 2007, 11:25:22 PM
hey buddy each to there own, keep doing it if it makes you happy
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 20, 2007, 11:28:07 PM
hey buddy each to there own, keep doing it if it makes you happy

Salute to you, my friend,

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 05:05:50 AM
Salute to you, my friend,

Mike

I think I can get Evan to perhaps post here for a bit.

Any interest? We'd approach him respectfully, I'd hope...

That'd be grand. I will ask him,

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: m8 on December 21, 2007, 05:23:43 AM

"He is well rounded and articulate. He maintains a full time postion with a titlke search comany, and holds a college degree. He is persobale, and, at Gold's Gym in New Haven, CT., where he trains, he does not ostracize hard trainers or casual onlookers if they have questions or comments.

What did he say?
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Mazda323 on December 21, 2007, 05:36:11 AM
I think that he will be at the top 5 but not Mr. O.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: muscularny on December 21, 2007, 05:37:03 AM
because these kids started right away with high slin, gh, igf and cjc doses soon he will stop to respond just like it happened to many others who shot up from freeman to cook to tons others who had a good 12-18 months run then bamn,

i see him gone from this business within 24 months
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 07:09:20 AM
because these kids started right away with high slin, gh, igf and cjc doses soon he will stop to respond just like it happened to many others who shot up from freeman to cook to tons others who had a good 12-18 months run then bamn,

i see him gone from this business within 24 months

Perhaps.

His trainers state that he is one of those who respond to low levels of gear. Thus, burnout may not be a quandary he immediately faces.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: wisconsinBB on December 21, 2007, 07:09:32 AM
because these kids started right away with high slin, gh, igf and cjc doses soon he will stop to respond just like it happened to many others who shot up from freeman to cook to tons others who had a good 12-18 months run then bamn,

i see him gone from this business within 24 months


So who do you think the good young bodybuilders are?
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 21, 2007, 07:16:08 AM

I am Mike, from Connecticut. NPC judge, competitor (25 years) and promotor.
That's troubling, seeing as you blatantly admit you would let a competitors personal life dictate his placing, instead of his physique. Do you judge like this when you are a judge? Guys with criminal records you mark down?

I mean I understand your rationale but the judges shouldn't take that into consideration. If the competitor is allowed on stage and is a free man only physique should be judged IMO.

If everyone (the higher-ups you talk about) agrees that Vic is a poor representative for the sport then don't let him compete at all. Period.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: pumpster on December 21, 2007, 07:19:17 AM
hey buddy each to there own, keep doing it if it makes you happy

Why do you fill getbig with empty posts?
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: mass243 on December 21, 2007, 07:24:43 AM
Oh bro...
Still some serious job to do... of course we are talking about future potential but within 5 years? Possibly with some serious gains - but is this guy capable to do that? Or is it even something he is after? Richard Jones was also hyped to be MrO...where is dude now  ;D pretty far away from MrO...!



Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 07:41:27 AM
That's troubling, seeing as you blatantly admit you would let a competitors personal life dictate his placing, instead of his physique. Do you judge like this when you are a judge? Guys with criminal records you mark down?

Your logic is sound.

However, let me tell you how things really work.

One NPC judging came down to two entrants who were literally neck-and neck. Either could have won top place. Either one.

One entrant's brother was SCREAMING in my ear for his brother to win.

Carrying on, screaming, and bugging and interrupting my consideration process.

Since he would not move, after I asked him to, very cordially, well...when it came time to award first...it went to then other guy.

NOT to the guy with the asshole brother.

Character issues .

NOW:

I have seen other judges...with 15 entrants in a class...judge the top 5...and then place the remaining 10 in any old order.

That's dsigraceful.

EVERYBODY, from first to worst, needs to know where they placed and why.

Many of these judges come from seedy, unsavory bacgrounds. They do not give a fuck, and i swear they are just there to get laid.

I detest sitting next to some of them.

Truth:

Going back tpo the top Olympia contender with the poor personal character dossier:

If it comes down to phenomenal, "it could go either way" type of situation between twpo finalists, YES...I am going for the guy whois less of an asshole and felon/criminal.

This is how the BB HOF fame works...character issues are taken in to play.

If ylou are a bb player and have b een a tool with the media, your chances of enshrinement are lessened.

Is this right?

Well, bb isn a subjective art, so, we as judges can take more liberties as opposed to a sport in which we are looking for the bloke who scores the most points.





 

I mean I understand your rationale but the judges shouldn't take that into consideration. If the competitor is allowed on stage and is a free man only physique should be judged IMO.

If everyone (the higher-ups you talk about) agrees that Vic is a poor representative for the sport then don't let him compete at all. Period.

I respect your opinion. Maybe Vic is  free man. Now. But he does, supposedly, have other transgressions on the horizon that will prove devastating to bb with a top Olympis win.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 07:42:37 AM
Oh bro...
Still some serious job to do... of course we are talking about future potential but within 5 years? Possibly with some serious gains - but is this guy capable to do that? Or is it even something he is after? Richard Jones was also hyped to be MrO...where is dude now  ;D pretty far away from MrO...!





Agreed. Time will tell.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 21, 2007, 07:48:05 AM
I respect your opinion. Maybe Vic is  free man. Now. But he does, supposedly, have other transgressions on the horizon that will prove devastating to bb with a top Olympis win.

Mike
Are you talking about the rumors of him working for the feds? Or is he again caught in some drug dealing?
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: dr.chimps on December 21, 2007, 07:48:22 AM
Does Mr. Katz know you are taking (what appears to be) a personal conversation and broadcasting it worldwide? 

/if he doesn't, you deserve a good ass kicking. if he does, he should use his own byline   
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: muscularny on December 21, 2007, 07:56:49 AM
Perhaps.

His trainers state that he is one of those who respond to low levels of gear. Thus, burnout may not be a quandary he immediately faces.

Mike
every trainer says that, ever heard chad or milos or the others say their clients problem is they need more gear then the avg bodybuilder?

all say same shit

client has amazing genetics
10 minute workouts is enough for their client
client will do serious damage at a upcoming show
whatever lacking bodypart last year they made serious progress this year
etc
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: muscularny on December 21, 2007, 08:01:52 AM

So who do you think the good young bodybuilders are?

NOT trey, not evan they are cooksters aka chris cook they blow up quick and bamn gone

Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: wisconsinBB on December 21, 2007, 08:03:23 AM
NOT trey, not evan they are cooksters aka chris cook they blow up quick and bamn gone



I agree 100% with NOT Trey, but have to disagree with Evan.  I think brandon curry and brandon rey will both make good pros.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Matt C on December 21, 2007, 09:06:40 AM

Olympia Judge and former IFBB pro Mike Katz opines that 2007 Overall National BB Champion Evan Centopani will soon be in line to garner strong consideration for top Mr. Olympia Honors.

"He is well rounded and articulate. He maintains a full time postion with a titlke search comany, and holds a college degree. He is persobale, and, at Gold's Gym in New Haven, CT., where he trains, he does not ostracize hard trainers or casual onlookers if they have questions or comments.

He takes his sucess along with setbacks with equanimity. He has all the physical goods to go all the way.

And, he does not carry any felonious baggage like some other candidates.

End Mike's Quote.

I paraphrased this quote from a recent discussion I had with Mike.

I agree. For bodybuilding to gain perhaps a bit more solid footing amidst an increasingly turbulent sea of steroid tumult amongst authorities, more palatable mcompetitors such as Evan will do well in putting forth a superior image.

Mike is/ was disgusted with some of the recent pushes to award high placings to bb's with very unsavory pasts (and presents).

Yes, yes. I know some will defend whom you know I am referring to.

Guys like Arnold DO NOT want nationally chroicalled felons and general scaliwags to wun his ASC crown.

I am telling you.

Guys like Evan are the future.

The scaliwags will not be.

Mike

Hi Evan.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Parker on December 21, 2007, 09:14:55 AM
He looks good, but at the same time a jumble of good body parts. His waist is already wide..what will it look like in 5 years? That is not counting other phenoms that might come up. Plus he has to go thru Heath, Wolf, Dex, Vic, JOJ, and that new dude who says he stronger than JOJ or Ronnie (this dude has a back that makes Evan's look flat)...hype is a new bodybuilders worst enemy, good to see you are trying to ensure his downfall.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: England_1 on December 21, 2007, 09:15:14 AM
Why do you fill getbig with empty posts?

So says the dweeb with 10,000+ posts of shite consisting of racial slurs and sociopathic attacks  ::) The rest of the posts concern the efficacy of the bow (or lack thereof) and hooking up with trannys hahahahahahahah

Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: BM OUT on December 21, 2007, 10:21:17 AM
I get so sick and tired of the moralists who want athletes to be perfect.If a guy has a criminal past,let the legal system deal with him.If he does his time,then why cant he return to normal activities?I don't care if an athlete[and Im counting bodybuilders as athletes]is the worst person on earth.Just go out and entertain me.If you commit a crime then the system can deal with you.Its funny,we expect athletes to be free of any "sin" but the politicians,who actually make the laws,are as dirty as any criminal we have in this country and make the athletes look like Sunday school picknickers.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: titusisback on December 21, 2007, 10:25:37 AM
Olympia Judge and former IFBB pro Mike Katz opines that 2007 Overall National BB Champion Evan Centopani will soon be in line to garner strong consideration for top Mr. Olympia Honors.

Let's see him do his first pro competition first  ::)
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2007, 11:03:36 AM
Huge guns. I am thinking his arms have reached their full genetic potential already. Sure, he might be able to etch some detail and work on the finer points, but damn, his arms are already HUGE for his age.

As for the Olympia crown, who the heck knows. Anything is possible. I guess as long as he stays focused it is possible.

And it is also cool he doesn't look 35+ like Trey Brewer at such a young age!
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: muscularny on December 21, 2007, 11:22:57 AM
I agree 100% with NOT Trey, but have to disagree with Evan.  I think brandon curry and brandon rey will both make good pros.
curry yes evan def not
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 12:22:49 PM
Are you talking about the rumors of him working for the feds? Or is he again caught in some drug dealing?

I am currently unsure of either.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 12:27:41 PM
Does Mr. Katz know you are taking (what appears to be) a personal conversation and broadcasting it worldwide? 

/if he doesn't, you deserve a good ass kicking. if he does, he should use his own byline   

"Mr. Katz" had this conversation in front of about 15 people in a public restaurant, nothing egregious or illegal was said.

As far as mydeserving an "Ass kicking"...well...excuse my hubris...and I have held back on  such statemnets un til now as  I see that many who frequent these boards are, at best, sophomoric in their thinking...welll...never threaten to kick teb ass of a man who owns hisn own plane.

Not that you could noyt kick my ass...I sayu big deal to that.

The ramifications for you would be dire, however.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 12:30:20 PM
every trainer says that, ever heard chad or milos or the others say their clients problem is they need more gear then the avg bodybuilder?

all say same shit

client has amazing genetics
10 minute workouts is enough for their client
client will do serious damage at a upcoming show
whatever lacking bodypart last year they made serious progress this year
etc
i don't know who chad or milos is.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 12:32:35 PM
He looks good, but at the same time a jumble of good body parts. His waist is already wide..what will it look like in 5 years? That is not counting other phenoms that might come up. Plus he has to go thru Heath, Wolf, Dex, Vic, JOJ, and that new dude who says he stronger than JOJ or Ronnie (this dude has a back that makes Evan's look flat)...hype is a new bodybuilders worst enemy, good to see you are trying to ensure his downfall.

I am not, Mr. "Parker".

I am trying to help him.

Negative fellows such as you rot the great underbelly of what was once (and still is) the greatest country in the world.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: dr.chimps on December 21, 2007, 01:21:56 PM
"Mr. Katz" had this conversation in front of about 15 people in a public restaurant, nothing egregious or illegal was said.

As far as mydeserving an "Ass kicking"...well...excuse my hubris...and I have held back on  such statemnets un til now as  I see that many who frequent these boards are, at best, sophomoric in their thinking...welll...never threaten to kick teb ass of a man who owns hisn own plane.

Not that you could noyt kick my ass...I sayu big deal to that.

The ramifications for you would be dire, however.
Mike
The asskicking was a metaphorical one. An intelligent man would know that. You still didn't answer whether or not he ok'ed you to broadcast this conversation. I know that people will *sigh* talk, as you are doing here, but when that someone (Katz) is talking 'out of school,' discretion is usually the watchword.


/nice you have you're own plane. that would be convenient. you still have a big mouth, and ramifications being as dire as they are, i'll take my chances saying that.  :)

Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2007, 05:00:33 PM
The asskicking was a metaphorical one. An intelligent man would know that. You still didn't answer whether or not he ok'ed you to broadcast this conversation. I know that people will *sigh* talk, as you are doing here, but when that someone (Katz) is talking 'out of school,' discretion is usually the watchword.


/nice you have you're own plane. that would be convenient. you still have a big mouth, and ramifications being as dire as they are, i'll take my chances saying that.  :)

Geez, friend. I am not trying to come at loggerheads with you on anything.

I have seen that folks like to try to one-up each other here...not me.

I don't have a big mouth...that is Your interpretation...only after the ass-kicking comment (and, after hearing similar diatribes here on GetBig...hardly thought it to be a 'metaphore', as you say).

As far as ramifications...what are those you speak of?

Mike made these comments in front of the entire Mr. Olympia Judging panel, and then in front of 15 to 20 of us at dinner.

All he commented upon was on public record, and even thunderously and angrily addressed by Arnold himself (as far as Martinez's many indescretions).

And please, can the stuff about 'qany intelligent man would know this or that....I have frequented this board the past two weeks regularly due to being at home from surgery with nothing much better
I'd rather be  your ally, but if you'd like to fight....mozey on over to the middle east...I am certain you'd find a gaggle of street-bounbd youths to throw rocks at tou or something similar,

Peach and kind personal regards,

Mike


Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 22, 2007, 01:05:19 AM
The asskicking was a metaphorical one. An intelligent man would know that. You still didn't answer whether or not he ok'ed you to broadcast this conversation. I know that people will *sigh* talk, as you are doing here, but when that someone (Katz) is talking 'out of school,' discretion is usually the watchword.


/nice you have you're own plane. that would be convenient. you still have a big mouth, and ramifications being as dire as they are, i'll take my chances saying that.  :)



Besides, what "ramifications" would you be speaking of, "Dr. Chimps"?

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 24, 2007, 05:23:23 PM
Besides, what "ramifications" would you be speaking of, "Dr. Chimps"?

Mike

Yes...he "Okayed" me to broadcast his bloviating.

Okay?>

Peace,

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: disco_stu on December 25, 2007, 01:00:59 AM
Well, first alkl of, if they are using, they are ALL commiting felonies.

Like I said, 3 to 5 years and he COULD be ready.

NO to Victor.

I am telling you, I have heard this first hand from some very big horses mouths...he simply has too spotty of a track record and integrity that is poor, non-existent, or spotty at best.

There is too much of a pandora's box to potentially be opened, at the risk of sponsor's losses, to have him as the world's top titleholder.

I know it seems unfair, but that is life, as you know.

Dexter will soon likely fade, Wolf is spectacular, but his utter l;ack of calf development (when comparing to his otherwise stellar physique, could prove too heavy of an albatross to remove from his neck.

I say be ready to see Evan replace Jay in due time.

I could be wrong, though,

Best regards,

Mike   

if it comes down to calves...then implants will fix that...wheeler did it and that enabled him to leapfrog the other , more honest competitotrs.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: mesmorph78 on December 25, 2007, 05:09:13 AM
i like centopani.. and his physique definetly will be a top guy soon
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Fulgorre on December 25, 2007, 05:17:36 AM
i like centopani.. and his physique definetly will be a top guy soon

Chic actually got this one right about Evan- he needs more thickness.  It will come with time he said.

As soon as the chest fills out to match the arms he will be marketable to major supplement companies.  And as soon as the back fills out he will be finishing very high in pro shows.  I hope he can pull it off, make a ton of cash, retain his health, and win some shows over the next 10 years.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Hedgehog on December 25, 2007, 05:21:06 AM
Sorry about my writing style. That's how I write. As long as you get the message, please forgive my flowery prose.

Missing letters...relax, friend. I am not bothering with spell checking and I write a lot of this between patients. So it gets sloppy.

My opinion, and Mike Katz's very astute opinion.

Mike


Good luck to this Evan-guy.

He will need it if he's ever gonna be able to stand on a stage anywhere near to Wolf or Heath.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Deicide on December 25, 2007, 05:23:46 AM

Good luck to this Evan-guy.

He will need it if he's ever gonna be able to stand on a stage anywhere near to Wolf or Heath.

I was just about to say. Wolf=arggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhowwwwwwwwlllllllllllllllll!
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 25, 2007, 05:37:39 AM
i like centopani.. and his physique definetly will be a top guy soon

Agreed
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 25, 2007, 05:38:29 AM
Chic actually got this one right about Evan- he needs more thickness.  It will come with time he said.

It will come. He JUST turned 25 years old.

As soon as the chest fills out to match the arms he will be marketable to major supplement companies.  And as soon as the back fills out he will be finishing very high in pro shows.  I hope he can pull it off, make a ton of cash, retain his health, and win some shows over the next 10 years.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 25, 2007, 05:02:53 PM
if it comes down to calves...then implants will fix that...wheeler did it and that enabled him to leapfrog the other , more honest competitotrs.


I think Evan can make his calves at least GOOD ENOUGH to win.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: CT_Muscle on December 25, 2007, 05:10:20 PM
Hi must be Mike Degussa (SP?) we have a mutual friend named Joe who has done the CT's a few times. Evans Calves are not a problem, anyone who says that never saw him in person. HAHAHA too funny
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 25, 2007, 05:14:58 PM
Hi must be Mike Degussa (SP?) we have a mutual friend named Joe who has done the CT's a few times. Evans Calves are not a problem, anyone who says that never saw him in person. HAHAHA too funny

Hi.

No, that's not my name...somewhat close. Joe Petreycik...great guy, almost won the overall CT last year. I run the CT with Katz.

And yes, his Calves are a very strong point. But I don't know what these guys are thinkin' on here most of the time!

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: CT_Muscle on December 25, 2007, 05:17:25 PM
Like I said wrong spelling, but I knew you were the guy running the CT's with Katz. Joe should do well in any shows he does this year, I am expecting big things from him by years end.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 25, 2007, 05:21:05 PM
Like I said wrong spelling, but I knew you were the guy running the CT's with Katz. Joe should do well in any shows he does this year, I am expecting big things from him by years end.

Yes...he has really shocked me. Talk about a guy who would not give up. I recall he used to compete in my college shows about 10 years ago...and he was really undersized. Next thing you know...he is a top contender.

Barring injury or any other unforseen problems, he can go far...even nationally...I tell him this but I don't know if he believes me because we are friends.

Best to you, keep up the good and positive work,

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: CT_Muscle on December 25, 2007, 05:26:48 PM
Yes...he has really shocked me. Talk about a guy who would not give up. I recall he used to compete in my college shows about 10 years ago...and he was really undersized. Next thing you know...he is a top contender.

Barring injury or any other unforseen problems, he can go far...even nationally...I tell him this but I don't know if he believes me because we are friends.

Best to you, keep up the good and positive work,

Mike

Make no mistake I expect big things from him on the national level, did you guys pick a date for the CT's this year? It would help if you could hold it 1-2 weeks before the nationals so Joe could qualify.
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 25, 2007, 05:31:04 PM
Make no mistake I expect big things from him on the national level, did you guys pick a date for the CT's this year? It would help if you could hold it 1-2 weeks before the nationals so Joe could qualify.

Yeah...Ct-Muscle...Joe and I were just discussing this two days ago...probably before Thanksgiving, so I think he will make the deadline of the 20th(?).

We did not pick a date yet but will soon. We are actually considering holding 2 CT's this year...tested and non-tested...which I have pushed for for years.

Mike
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: CT_Muscle on December 25, 2007, 05:36:07 PM
Excellent I guarantee you won't believe your eyes when you see him on stage next!  :o
Title: Re: Evan Centopani Will Be Mr. Olympia within 5 years....
Post by: Moosejay on December 25, 2007, 05:42:23 PM
Excellent I guarantee you won't believe your eyes when you see him on stage next!  :o

You know...it really coulnd't happen to a nicer guy. I just love his mother. He really deserves it. PM me if you ever want to, or visit my office with him sometime...we always have fun and I make the patients wait...:)!

Mike