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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: EL Mariachi on December 22, 2007, 02:56:27 PM
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http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/media/videos.php?id=181
Even with one kidney he looks better then us.
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he's so articulate ::)
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The difference between Dorian and Ronnie is Dorian didn't tear his best muscle Ronnie did and oh BTW his conditioning was a fuck of a lot better than Ronnies . and Genius Flex had Ronnie winning after the pre-judging
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The difference between Dorian and Ronnie is Dorian didn't tear his best muscle Ronnie did and oh BTW his conditioning was a fuck of a lot better than Ronnies . and Genius Flex had Ronnie winning after the pre-judging
'That's just another white man's opinion'
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since when does the best bodybuilder win a show? not usually.... no matter who wins a show opinions vary and someone isn't going to agree with the judges.
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And still on drugs... ::)
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he's so articulate ::)
Did you ever check out his old board?
It was like a 9 yr old black wanna be gangster kid was posting under his handle.
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You guys think he still uses gear at all? I would think not but he still looks fairly big.
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You guys think he still uses gear at all? I would think not but he still looks fairly big.
It's obvious he is.
I give him a few years, not more.
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He reminds me of Charles Barkley.
“We don't need refs, but I guess white guys need something to do.”
-Charles Barkley
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Flex for sure has a good heart, but he is a depressed little child.
When I watched his vid, where he trained with Rico and Glass, I wanted to jump into the screen and strangle him - what an insecure little shithead in a muscle-costume.
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drunk off his ass..................
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Flex for sure has a good heart, but he is a depressed little child.
When I watched his vid, where he trained with Rico and Glass, I wanted to jump into the screen and strangle him - what an insecure little shithead in a muscle-costume.
He has a massive inferiority complex and he's become the character " Flex Wheeler " when his kidney was shot he became the God fearing Christian Mr Humble Kenny Wheeler now he's back to his old M.O.
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He has a massive inferiority complex and he's become the character " Flex Wheeler " when his kidney was shot he became the God fearing Christian Mr Humble Kenny Wheeler now he's back to his old M.O.
Both characters have the intelligence of a tennis ball.
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Both characters have the intelligence of a tennis ball.
lmfao
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Say what you want to about Flex Wheeler but he was right on there.
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Say what you want to about Flex Wheeler but he was right on there.
Agree. nb Ron: ever the conciliator. Doesn't like to make waves. The Neville Chamberlain of bb'ing.
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true true
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'That's just another white man's opinion'
What does race have to do with it?
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What does race have to do with it?
A lot.
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A lot.
White man meltdown
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Both characters have the intelligence of a tennis ball.
Yes. However, the Tennis ball serves a purpose....
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191776.0;attach=222662;image)
what's he do'n playing golf? they better have a golf cart with 1 ton suspension to haul his big ass around.
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You guys think he still uses gear at all? I would think not but he still looks fairly big.
There are Roids that would not affect his Kidney, im not going to say which ones because it will turn into a shitfest,Check the steroid board good information.
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There are Roids that would not affect his Kidney, im not going to say which ones because it will turn into a shitfest,Check the steroid board good information.
I wouldn't want to take ANY drugs that I didn't have to if I had kidney problems.
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Id bet Don Long knows which drugs i am talking about.
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Observations:
1.) Flex was/is a loser trying to act hard with Ron and the other guy
2.) Ronnie was in shit condition compared to the past
3.) Ronnie came back and won in 01, like Jay did in 07
4.) Synthol apparently helps keep that arm size
5.) Whoever said Flex was insecure, quiet and hates the spot light is dumb
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Say what you want to about Flex Wheeler but he was right on there. Lee but he always comes to contests in great shape and has time for his fans.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=181932.0;attach=213917;image)
(http://forum.bodynet.nl/gallery/watermark.php?file=49721)
(http://www.eggwhitesint.com/go/images/cathy-lee-priest.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=181932.0;attach=213904;image)
(http://www.hardcorebodybuildingontheweb.com/precontestbible/Lee_Priest.jpg)
(http://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/lee-priest.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=181932.0;attach=213944;image)
Fixed.
PS - 1st, 4th and last pic is NOT LEE ::) ::) ::) ::)
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^That is Lee Priest alright. The guy made me curl 315lbs.
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Flex was clearly passionate about the O. He made very good points. I don't think he's that big, he's probably 205, if that, because of his joints, he's always looked bigger than what he was. Plus, he's always had big guns, so you see those and think he's he's huge. He actually looks healthy.
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Flex was clearly passionate about the O. He made very good points. I don't think he's that big, he's probably 205, if that, because of his joints, he's always looked bigger than what he was. Plus, he's always had big guns, so you see those and think he's he's huge. He actually looks healthy.
You know, Flex may should realize that the fault may not completely be with the judges for whatever injustices are being served today; you could just as well argue that the competitors that placed below Jay simply aren't showing up in convincing-enough shape. I promise you that if any one of them showed up looking like Flex Wheeler did in '93 at the Arnold they would have won the show.
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haha it's nice to see he's the same assh*le as usual :D
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You know, Flex may should realize that the fault may not completely be with the judges for whatever injustices are being served today; you could just as well argue that the competitors that placed below Jay simply aren't showing up in convincing-enough shape. I promise you that if any one of them showed up looking like Flex Wheeler did in '93 at the Arnold they would have won the show.
Problem is that jay has been getting gifts since back when he beat Chris Cormier multiple times for the Arnold. And the mags would use excuses, even admitting that Chris was more shredded had a better shape, and a more detailed back. Total head scratcher, like he was being "prepared". And this is the Arnold, where fair judging tends to be the norm. So I don't know. Vic, Dex, and Wolfe were better shape and condition than Jay will ever be.
haha it's nice to see he's the same assh*le as usual :D
I just think dude is has a opinion, hell, he's got some fight in him...yeah, sometimes ya gotta be an asshole.
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I just think dude is has a opinion, hell, he's got some fight in him...yeah, sometimes ya gotta be an asshole.
Flex was probably just irritated that he was having his views spun in unnatural directions by Isaac just so Isaac could feel like he was having a say that mattered in anything. Ya dig?
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Flex was probably just irritated that he was having his views spun in unnatural directions by Isaac just so Isaac could feel like he was having a say that mattered in anything. Ya dig?
Yeah, I know what your saying...I got the same impression
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The bigger question is what is with the cluster-f interview in a parking lot with the 3 dudes standing on top of Flex?
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Yeah, I know what your saying...I got the same impression
yeah I understand that but he just gives me the impression he has no patience and gets angry if he becomes frustrated and cant articulately say what he wants to.
His personality screams confrontational, could you see, say Markus Ruhl acting that way, absolutely not he would have probably brushed Isaac off with a funny comment.
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Damn Flex had one too many Mojitos at the show :o
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http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/media/videos.php?id=181
Even with one kidney he looks better then us.
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3 Questions...
1) Why is Rip Torn doing the interview?
2) What is Adam Levine doing there?
3) Why does Ron keep trying to bum Flex?
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I can never understand why people don't use violence more often to solve their problems. Works every time.
Denny Crane.
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how big are flex's arms there? had to be over 20 in
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flex has an opinion and he wasn't afraid to give it (unlike ron avidan, who clearly hasn't got the balls to go against the party line).
what you have to understand here is that flex wheeler was a premier bber in this sport's history and he doesn't like to see his sport tarnished and degraded by corrupt judging. he sacrificed a lot to compete in his very best shape and he readily accepted defeat to the better man on numerous occasions.
i liked seeing the man speak up for himself and not allow himself to be railroaded by tweedle dumb and tweedle dee who obviously wouldn't have the feintest idea what it's like to compete or diet to attain reasonable condition, never mind contest condition.
his point about ronnie i don't agree with though. i have no idea how yates got a perfect score with a torn bicep (the show piece muscle of bbing). maybe it had something to do with his insane conditioning and the fact that everything else was great, but ronnie was just plain off. it wasn't just torn muscles. he was off and there were too many weaknesses on his physique. flex's reasoning for giving ronnie a break was in contrast to his point about jay, so this was somewhat hypocritical by flex.
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flex has an opinion and he wasn't afraid to give it (unlike ron avidan, who clearly hasn't got the balls to go against the party line).
what you have to understand here is that flex wheeler was a premier bber in this sport's history and he doesn't like to see his sport tarnished and degraded by corrupt judging. he sacrificed a lot to compete in his very best shape and he readily accepted defeat to the better man on numerous occasions.
i liked seeing the man speak up for himself and not allow himself to be railroaded by tweedle dumb and tweedle dee who obviously wouldn't have the feintest idea what it's like to compete or diet to attain reasonable condition, never mind contest condition.
his point about ronnie i don't agree with though. i have no idea how yates got a perfect score with a torn bicep (the show piece muscle of bbing). maybe it had something to do with his insane conditioning and the fact that everything else was great, but ronnie was just plain off. it wasn't just torn muscles. he was off and there were too many weaknesses on his physique. flex's reasoning for giving ronnie a break was in contrast to his point about jay, so this was somewhat hypocritical by flex.
He also said that Ronnie got what he deserved and he had no problem with Ronnie's placing tonight. Thing is Ronnie's conditioning was better than Jay's, but in DOrian's era, everybody had insane condition, whereas in Ronnie's era, amateurs have better conditioning and muscle separation than the current Mr. O.
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He also said that Ronnie got what he deserved and he had no problem with Ronnie's placing tonight. Thing is Ronnie's conditioning was better than Jay's, but in DOrian's era, everybody had insane condition, whereas in Ronnie's era, amateurs have better conditioning and muscle separation than the current Mr. O.
yes, but as pointed out, earlier he had mentioned that ronnie should have placed higher.
in any case, i totally agree with the stance flex took and admire him for speaking his mind.
thing is, as wheeler pointed out, why would you want to go through the rigours of dieting, training and supplementing, only to be ripped off at the end?
i don't agree with flex's martinez choice. wolf should have definitely won the 2007 mr o imo, but one thing is absoltely and utterly obvious to anyone with properly functioning eye sight, jay should NOT have won it.
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yes, but as pointed out, earlier he had mentioned that ronnie should have placed higher.
in any case, i totally agree with the stance flex took and admire him for speaking his mind.
thing is, as wheeler pointed out, why would you want to go through the rigours of dieting, training and supplementing, only to be ripped off at the end?
i don't agree with flex's martinez choice. wolf should have definitely won the 2007 mr o imo, but one thing is absoltely and utterly obvious to anyone with properly functioning eye sight, jay should NOT have won it.
I agree, he was too pushing for Ronnie, but i think he realize Ronnie didn't bring it this year, and going to retire. Flex thought it was Vic who should have won, many thought it was Wolf, and Ruhl thought it should have been Dex, and this coming from a fellow German. But,as you said, nobody thinks it should have been Jay. Right now, I don't even want pay attenttion to bodybuilding, unless the names are Dex, Heath, Wolf, Melvin.
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What does race have to do with it?
here is a better question; do you know what a quote is?
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You know, Flex may should realize that the fault may not completely be with the judges for whatever injustices are being served today; you could just as well argue that the competitors that placed below Jay simply aren't showing up in convincing-enough shape. I promise you that if any one of them showed up looking like Flex Wheeler did in '93 at the Arnold they would have won the show.
That was the year he got down to 0.0% bodyfat
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He reminds me of Charles Barkley.
“We don't need refs, but I guess white guys need something to do.”
-Charles Barkley
Yeah...and that comes from your next Governor of Alabama...what a Joke...the folks there are probably stupid enough to elect him, too.
Mike
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funny , how against a small white guy, flex gets tough and says he doesnt run from anybody.
then what the fuck was the bs story he created in 97 with the ninjas?
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I hope he was drunk.....because he said he is tired of being "misconscrewed" !
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Lift was about to get bitch slapped!
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Drunk or not, I agree with Flex on this one!!!
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Drunk or not, I agree with Flex on this one!!!
hahaha boy you are askin' for some abuse with that user name. ;D
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funny , how against a small white guy, flex gets tough and says he doesnt run from anybody.
then what the fuck was the bs story he created in 97 with the ninjas?
Dude was trying talk over him and flip his words, you'd do the same. Back in 1997 he was not in shape, and lets face it, even if he was nobody was going to beat Dorian, regardless if they were in better shape or not.
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flex has an opinion and he wasn't afraid to give it (unlike ron avidan, who clearly hasn't got the balls to go against the party line).
My opinion was the Jay won the show. Don't like it ... too bad. That is my opinion. I said it from day one.
1.) Flex was/is a loser trying to act hard with Ron and the other guy
Flex has his own opinion, and I appreciated that. I know when to be quiet, and for those of you that don't know, this was a continuation from earlier that day, as we had a 10 minutes discussion then too discussing this. We try to keep the videos not as lengthy, and we let Flex to the talking.
2.) Ronnie was in shit condition compared to the past
That is true. An eight time Mr. Olympian on his final Mr. Olympia stage. 43 years old - he was in awesome shape. To be the Mr. Olympia this year. Nope.
3.) Ronnie came back and won in 01, like Jay did in 07
And Jay will win again in 2008. I am saying that here again.
4.) Synthol apparently helps keep that arm size
ok. Back to the synthol issue. Let it go.
5.) Whoever said Flex was insecure, quiet and hates the spot light is dumb
Flex is realatively a quiet peson, and very cool. In this situation, he was fired up. That was his opinion.
1) Why is Rip Torn doing the interview?
Ah, the impeccable Lonnie Teper, emcee of 70 IFBB pro contests, and 200 NPC contests. Master of the interviews.
2) What is Adam Levine doing there?
No comment...
3) Why does Ron keep trying to bum Flex?
You know - I have my own opinions too.
Bottom line is, everyone had an opinion that Saturday night. We have fun with the videos.
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Yeah nice post Ron, i don't agree on the Jay winning thing either (I actually think Dex should have won it :o) but thats what makes for good discussions, everyone has a differant opinion 8).
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Lift was about to get bitch slapped!
Yeah, I figured if me or Lift kept going at it, Flex would of whacked us. The guy is a black belt in karate, not sure I wanted to mess with him. Seriously though, Flex is really a great guy. Have known him for 12+ years. Passoinate about his opinions. Differs from others and mine. I like that.
Oh.. regarding LT, as just talked to him
Lonnie Teper was the emcee when Wheeler won his pro card at the USA, at all five of his IRON MAN Pro wins, three out of his four Arnold Classic wins, his NOC victory and in Wheeler's Mr. O debut in 1993, when he took second. So, I'd say there would be nobody better to host the interview
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The guy is a black belt in karate
::) ::)
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You gotta respect the legends.
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ron...
havin an opinion is one thing...
but you sayin jay culter of 2007 should have won the olympia
is like you sayin in my opinion the moon is made of cheese....
or in my opinion lee priest is tall...
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You gotta respect the legends.
Looks like nothing but artificially inflated muscle. The guy didn't even love training or being a BB.
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i'd love to know why you think jay deserved his win Ron?
you might have provided such an account but i haven't seen it anywhere.
i've stated my opinion back when this thing was topical and also my reasoning.
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Looks like nothing but artificially inflated muscle. The guy didn't even love training or being a BB.
idiot
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ron...
havin an opinion is one thing...
but you sayin jay culter of 2007 should have won the olympia
is like you sayin in my opinion the moon is made of cheese....
or in my opinion lee priest is tall...
Ron wears thick glasses...maybe the don't focus or smething. I think Jay should have won the Olympia is like saying that Flex was natural in that interview.
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Flex is a passionate guy and he has a right to his opinion. Yes, the man's arms are ginormous and could bitch slap me at any given moment. I like Flex, he's one of the few pros that you know where you stand and he'll give you his opinion. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we hate each other or don't have respect for one another. Ron and I had talked with him earlier in the day and he was equally as passionate about his thoughts then.
McFarland let me know when you decide to leave your computer and attend a show. Ya dig? ;)
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Flex is a passionate guy and he has a right to his opinion. Yes, the man's arms are ginormous and could bitch slap me at any given moment. I like Flex, he's one of the few pros that you know where you stand and he'll give you his opinion. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we hate each other or don't have respect for one another. Ron and I had talked with him earlier in the day and he was equally as passionate about his thoughts then.
McFarland let me know when you decide to leave your computer and attend a show. Ya dig? ;)
Looking at u lilly white with that goatee and typing here " ya dig " just cracks me up
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Looking at u lilly white with that goatee and typing here " ya dig " just cracks me up
1) I don't have a goatee. 2) "ya dig" was in reference to Mcfartland's moronic statement.
Lilly white cracker out.
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Flex is a passionate guy and he has a right to his opinion. Yes, the man's arms are ginormous and could bitch slap me at any given moment. I like Flex, he's one of the few pros that you know where you stand and he'll give you his opinion. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we hate each other or don't have respect for one another. Ron and I had talked with him earlier in the day and he was equally as passionate about his thoughts then.
McFarland let me know when you decide to leave your computer and attend a show. Ya dig? ;)
:)
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Prove me wrong dweeb. It's gonna be pretty hard since Flex has said himself that he hated training. He also displays brutal intensity on his bfto/training videos ::)
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These guys should have their own talk show nightly. Captivating shit! ;D ::)
Bodybuilding, boring as the day is long.
Getbig, amusing to no end. ;D
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My opinion was the Jay won the show. Don't like it ... too bad. That is my opinion. I said it from day one.
Flex has his own opinion, and I appreciated that. I know when to be quiet, and for those of you that don't know, this was a continuation from earlier that day, as we had a 10 minutes discussion then too discussing this. We try to keep the videos not as lengthy, and we let Flex to the talking.
That is true. An eight time Mr. Olympian on his final Mr. Olympia stage. 43 years old - he was in awesome shape. To be the Mr. Olympia this year. Nope.
And Jay will win again in 2008. I am saying that here again.
ok. Back to the synthol issue. Let it go.
5.) Whoever said Flex was insecure, quiet and hates the spot light is dumb
Flex is realatively a quiet peson, and very cool. In this situation, he was fired up. That was his opinion.
Ah, the impeccable Lonnie Teper, emcee of 70 IFBB pro contests, and 200 NPC contests. Master of the interviews.
No comment...
You know - I have my own opinions too.
Bottom line is, everyone had an opinion that Saturday night. We have fun with the videos.
Ron Avidan, im not gonna read all this but let me tell you one thing, you re a legend.
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flex sounds gay
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Prove me wrong dweeb. It's gonna be pretty hard since Flex has said himself that he hated training. He also displays brutal intensity on his bfto/training videos ::)
Shawn on Flex Wheeler
Wheeler's genetically gifted , but sometimes he would drag through his workouts when I trained with him. I thought he was awesome in his first Olympia, he placed second to Dorian. But Wheeler's NEVER again matched that condition.
Flex has said many times he couldn't wait until he retired so he could stop lifting and how he would never go to a gym again . its old news .
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Part of what he said he said was undoubtedly true. He was spot on about the fact that it should only ever be about the best physique on the night..not the best looking guy, or if the guy is a fag, or if he is a convicted roid dealer.
However, he needs to get over the Dorian defeats...it happened, Dorian was probably the first real, true freak and the 'sport' ran with that. He also had a grainy, stone-like quality that was notoriously breathtaking to see in the flesh live at the show.
I thought Jay didn't look that bad at the show but he probably didn't deserve it purely on physique. I do think that the powers that be are eager to promote Jay as he in turn promotes the sport well. The American boy, the great white hope. I also think they really like the black guy/ white guy thing - .Oliva/ Arnold/ Haney/ Yates/ Coleman/ Cutler - to keep the appeal as broad as possible and to stop an already minority 'sport' becoming even more of a minority...
Anyway..they are all drugged up freaks who seem to moan and bitch like teenage girls.