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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Popeye on December 27, 2007, 09:16:53 PM
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I know this has probibly been asked a hundred times- which is better?
Oral would be run with sustanon, and maybe EQ or Deca
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I've never tried anadrol, but I hear it is freaky. At least AS strong as dbol. Good chance it wipes the floor with dbol hehe
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Dbol for size, Anadrol for strength IMO and IME
Only way to know how you respond is to try it.
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Oxy is as strong as D bol but good oxy will not hold as much water as D bol. Make you got the HG or those well know UG brands.
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Individual response and what its stacked with.
If your new to AAS wait on the oxy, its wierd stuff.
I personaly dont bloat on Dbol. Oxy is the Only thing that makes me hold much water to speak of.
Learn to use Dbol first IMO.
A short 2 week run of 50mg of oxy 2x ed at a cycle start up will blow you up fast with some TE.
Smooth and strong is what you get.
The work volume on real Oxy is unreal. In fact the ONLY time I feel good on oxy is pumped up, sex, or
sustained hard work. Other than that I feel "spaced out". Lose my car in the lot, miss freeway exits and shit like that. Math skills go down the tube. If you dont feel at least "Kind of off" or "not quite well",
I doubt its real. There is no question about it when on real oxy.
Oxy is one to beware of if high red cell counts are a health issure for you. Thick blood.
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Anadrol is more powerful but makes me very lethargic. Strength gains are much better with Anadrol. Trab is right, Anadrol will make you a work horse once you get the blood flowing, but when you"re not working physicaly it makes you tired. at least it did for me and many others.
i prefer Dbol at about 30-50mg per day. Good size and strength gains and doesn't slow me down.
Test, Deca and Dbol is one of the best stacks there is IMO.
8)
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I know this has probibly been asked a hundred times- which is better?
Oral would be run with sustanon, and maybe EQ or Deca
Better is a strong word, there's been plenty of people that swear by anadrol over the years, but i'd go with the d-bol
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Better is a strong word, there's been plenty of people that swear by anadrol over the years, but i'd go with the d-bol
Exactly,,, "Better" for what? ??? It definitly has its place in the pharmacopia.
Overloads description of "Once you get the blood flowing" is spot on.
(You can spot credibility vs/ them guys thats been scammed w/ trash in this game)
If you see Mr Big Strong and Bloated in the gym doing endless set after set of 80-90% of hiz 1Rep Max , Chances R The Oxy is in effect.
Guy ought to have some history of what AAS does to his red cell counts if you mess long with it.
SHort runs for me raise it to high range normal. The pumps are incredible. Thats Oxys #1 signature.
Capilary growth is prolly 2nd to none on it.
Builds the support systems that allow you to keep new beef if all else in check in your efforts.
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Guy ought to have some history of what AAS does to his red cell counts if you mess long with it.
SHort runs for me raise it to high range normal. T
Have you tracked what other gear does to your red blood cell counts, dbol for example?
Reason I ask is because I've seen some data showing many other steroids do it to the same degree. It's obviously not a property exclusive to dbol even if some seem to think so.
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I've run dbol a couple times & Anadrol only once. If I was going to do another run with either one of them I'd choose the Abombs. I'd kick start my cycle with the following:
Weeks 1-6 Anadrol 50mg ED
Weeks 1-6 Winny 20md ED
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Have you tracked what other gear does to your red blood cell counts, dbol for example?
Reason I ask is because I've seen some data showing many other steroids do it to the same degree. It's obviously not a property exclusive to dbol even if some seem to think so.
Yeah, Ive looked at Red calls and all blood cell counts several times, on about all HG stuff out there.
I took Dbol with taht Drol too and after.
For me, allways in range. ONly Drol has run up some liver enzymes.
Ive actually pulled my best lipid pannels ever on/ after pretty high doses of testo. (estrogen may contribute)
Prolly diet responsible too. I also ate plenty of salmon, flax, primrose, nuts, olive oil before that test and cut back on red meat and egg yolks.
Ive never seen AAS have a bad effect on lipids myself.
If a guy eats a bunch of grease on a cycle thats the culprit, not the juice.
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my personal experience
dbol:
great pumps
limited bloat
increased strength
overall well being
anadrol:
HEADACHES that wake the dead......
thats it
DBOL +1
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Yeah, Ive looked at Red calls and all blood cell counts several times, on about all HG stuff out there.
I took Dbol with taht Drol too and after.
For me, allways in range. ONly Drol has run up some liver enzymes.
Did you mean red blood cell count? I was curious if its "blood boosting" effect was greater than dbol for example, in your experience.
Here's a piece by Llewellyn:
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/llewellyn/steroids-and-red-blood-cells.htm
Certainly those mentions of the vast superiority of one agent such as Anadrol or Equipoise over all others should be ignored.
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Did you mean red blood cell count? I was curious if its "blood boosting" effect was greater than dbol for example, in your experience.
Here's a piece by Llewellyn:
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/llewellyn/steroids-and-red-blood-cells.htm
Ive never run it longer than a couple weeks at start of cycle.
(I cant stand it longer than that)
Thats long enough to make for killer pumps that last for weeks even after stopping it.
So, no in my experience it didnt run red cell count out of range used like that, but it did run up a couple
liver enzymes (I forget what ones..) to high range normal. BUt I'd also used Dbol & some Stanoz orals on that cycle.
I did Blood tests while on, close to the end of about 4 months. Sus, TE & Deca also.
All this fear of orals is mostly overblown as long as you use in moderation for about 6 weeks or so.
If a guy starts taking it for months, you can expect some elevated levels. In fact there should be or its bunk.
But remember, some have high enzyme levels naturaly to start. Thats why its important to see what all this stuff does to the individual. Guys that want a "Map" or template of a magic formula are not clued in.
Results vary... The guy lookin for a formula for insulin is not takin in accout his body chemistry and blood sugar.
Tell them to test it and they ignore you. A blood sugar meter is cheap. So is a blood pressure meter.
There is a major differance between "Hardcore" and thick headed.
Minimise risk.
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Binge drinking 3 times a week also elevates liver enzymes guys :)
So keep things in perspective
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I believe the two chemicals are used for two different things without a doubt drol I use for contest prep dbol is not a better chem just stronger with this being said lets look at this on average a drol tab is 50 mg a legit thai pinky 5mg you can use dbol at a much lower dose and pack it on but drol is like trab said if legit second two none for pump and f you know how to use it fullness two without the water just watch that sodium friends
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I believe the two chemicals are used for two different things without a doubt drol I use for contest prep dbol is not a better chem just stronger with this being said lets look at this on average a drol tab is 50 mg a legit thai pinky 5mg you can use dbol at a much lower dose and pack it on but drol is like trab said if legit second two none for pump and f you know how to use it fullness two without the water just watch that sodium friends
I actually love the bloat for working in the beastly heat. Its about the ONLY thing that can bloat me.
(Together with test)
Manipulating the body for the stage is a whole 'nother matter.
The Point that you use it for contest prep is prolly a good little note to lots of guys that - They are too fat to use steroids!! ;D
(For BBing anyway'z)
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LOL thats the greatest thing Ive heard all day Trab hahahaha